Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
I have to agree with Mike. There is nothing in the service manual
about any shim or spacer under the CPS. Neither is anything included with a new CPS that looks like that. I have one sitting in front of me. I'm curious about the two, different CPS units the mechanics showed you. My '93 ZJ V-8 was one of the first produced in 1992. It has the 2-bolt type as shown in the service manual. The Mopar No. for this CPS is 1-56026701. ---- On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:50:15 GMT, Casper <casper@ghostmail.cc> wrote: >>The only CPS's 'I' am familiar with just bolt in. There are no >>spacers. I haven't seen that many though. >> >>Mike > >Sorry about the wording. Spacer, shim, whatever. It's a small piece of >paper-like material they use just to install the CPS. > >I didn't know there were different ones either, but the two mechanics >currently working on it showed me the difference and the one I have. I >really wish I had the other one. > >I still want to know how one mechanic can say the CPS is bad and the >other says it is fine... and they are both using the same diagnostic >tools to test them. I am downright suspicious of all dealership >mechanics (past bad experiences at dealerships) that he really is just >surmising that is the problem from experience, but /shrug. It's been >replaced once already. I would think master techs know how to put one >in and not damamge it (or anything else). > >Truthfully, right now I really don't care about anything except >someone fixing it. I've already reached my limit on patience with the >pointing fingers and no resolution. Either I get it back working the >end of this month, or the insurance company of the guy who hit me is >going to have to replace it. Otherwise I am starting by camping out on >the insurance co's front lawn with nasty signs and going from there. |
Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
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> I have to agree with Mike. There is nothing in the service manual > about any shim or spacer under the CPS. Neither is anything included > with a new CPS that looks like that. I have one sitting in front of > me. I'm curious about the two, different CPS units the mechanics > showed you. My '93 ZJ V-8 was one of the first produced in 1992. It > has the 2-bolt type as shown in the service manual. The Mopar No. for > this CPS is 1-56026701. On the 93 production year there were two (possibly three) different transmissions and two different CPS sensors. 92 1/2 or early 93 production run and the 93. Mine is a mix of 93/4 parts and a pain in the ass to order parts for. http://revbeergoggles.com/cps/ http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diag...tml#CPSdetails The original on-hole CPS sensor doesn't actually have a hole in so much as it has a slot. On the original sensor there is a cardboard bit glued to the end. You just slide it in till the spacer hits then tighten it down. The spacer then erodes. They did away with that sensor/spacer sometime in 94 and replaced it with a fixed hole in about the same location as the old sensor was fitted. Guess they improved the sensor or decided the gap was not too critical. -- DougW |
Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
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> I have to agree with Mike. There is nothing in the service manual > about any shim or spacer under the CPS. Neither is anything included > with a new CPS that looks like that. I have one sitting in front of > me. I'm curious about the two, different CPS units the mechanics > showed you. My '93 ZJ V-8 was one of the first produced in 1992. It > has the 2-bolt type as shown in the service manual. The Mopar No. for > this CPS is 1-56026701. On the 93 production year there were two (possibly three) different transmissions and two different CPS sensors. 92 1/2 or early 93 production run and the 93. Mine is a mix of 93/4 parts and a pain in the ass to order parts for. http://revbeergoggles.com/cps/ http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diag...tml#CPSdetails The original on-hole CPS sensor doesn't actually have a hole in so much as it has a slot. On the original sensor there is a cardboard bit glued to the end. You just slide it in till the spacer hits then tighten it down. The spacer then erodes. They did away with that sensor/spacer sometime in 94 and replaced it with a fixed hole in about the same location as the old sensor was fitted. Guess they improved the sensor or decided the gap was not too critical. -- DougW |
Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
---- wrote:
> I have to agree with Mike. There is nothing in the service manual > about any shim or spacer under the CPS. Neither is anything included > with a new CPS that looks like that. I have one sitting in front of > me. I'm curious about the two, different CPS units the mechanics > showed you. My '93 ZJ V-8 was one of the first produced in 1992. It > has the 2-bolt type as shown in the service manual. The Mopar No. for > this CPS is 1-56026701. On the 93 production year there were two (possibly three) different transmissions and two different CPS sensors. 92 1/2 or early 93 production run and the 93. Mine is a mix of 93/4 parts and a pain in the ass to order parts for. http://revbeergoggles.com/cps/ http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diag...tml#CPSdetails The original on-hole CPS sensor doesn't actually have a hole in so much as it has a slot. On the original sensor there is a cardboard bit glued to the end. You just slide it in till the spacer hits then tighten it down. The spacer then erodes. They did away with that sensor/spacer sometime in 94 and replaced it with a fixed hole in about the same location as the old sensor was fitted. Guess they improved the sensor or decided the gap was not too critical. -- DougW |
Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
---- wrote:
> I have to agree with Mike. There is nothing in the service manual > about any shim or spacer under the CPS. Neither is anything included > with a new CPS that looks like that. I have one sitting in front of > me. I'm curious about the two, different CPS units the mechanics > showed you. My '93 ZJ V-8 was one of the first produced in 1992. It > has the 2-bolt type as shown in the service manual. The Mopar No. for > this CPS is 1-56026701. On the 93 production year there were two (possibly three) different transmissions and two different CPS sensors. 92 1/2 or early 93 production run and the 93. Mine is a mix of 93/4 parts and a pain in the ass to order parts for. http://revbeergoggles.com/cps/ http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diag...tml#CPSdetails The original on-hole CPS sensor doesn't actually have a hole in so much as it has a slot. On the original sensor there is a cardboard bit glued to the end. You just slide it in till the spacer hits then tighten it down. The spacer then erodes. They did away with that sensor/spacer sometime in 94 and replaced it with a fixed hole in about the same location as the old sensor was fitted. Guess they improved the sensor or decided the gap was not too critical. -- DougW |
Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:06:42 -0500, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote: >---- wrote: >> I have to agree with Mike. There is nothing in the service manual >> about any shim or spacer under the CPS. Neither is anything included >> with a new CPS that looks like that. I have one sitting in front of >> me. I'm curious about the two, different CPS units the mechanics >> showed you. My '93 ZJ V-8 was one of the first produced in 1992. It >> has the 2-bolt type as shown in the service manual. The Mopar No. for >> this CPS is 1-56026701. > >On the 93 production year there were two (possibly three) different >transmissions and two different CPS sensors. 92 1/2 or early 93 >production run and the 93. Mine is a mix of 93/4 parts and a pain >in the ass to order parts for. > >http://revbeergoggles.com/cps/ >http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diag...tml#CPSdetails > >The original on-hole CPS sensor doesn't actually have a hole >in so much as it has a slot. On the original sensor there is >a cardboard bit glued to the end. You just slide it in till >the spacer hits then tighten it down. The spacer then erodes. > >They did away with that sensor/spacer sometime in 94 and replaced it >with a fixed hole in about the same location as the old sensor >was fitted. Guess they improved the sensor or decided the gap >was not too critical. I'm getting the idea that we are discussing the 4.0 engine, and not the V-8. ---- |
Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:06:42 -0500, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote: >---- wrote: >> I have to agree with Mike. There is nothing in the service manual >> about any shim or spacer under the CPS. Neither is anything included >> with a new CPS that looks like that. I have one sitting in front of >> me. I'm curious about the two, different CPS units the mechanics >> showed you. My '93 ZJ V-8 was one of the first produced in 1992. It >> has the 2-bolt type as shown in the service manual. The Mopar No. for >> this CPS is 1-56026701. > >On the 93 production year there were two (possibly three) different >transmissions and two different CPS sensors. 92 1/2 or early 93 >production run and the 93. Mine is a mix of 93/4 parts and a pain >in the ass to order parts for. > >http://revbeergoggles.com/cps/ >http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diag...tml#CPSdetails > >The original on-hole CPS sensor doesn't actually have a hole >in so much as it has a slot. On the original sensor there is >a cardboard bit glued to the end. You just slide it in till >the spacer hits then tighten it down. The spacer then erodes. > >They did away with that sensor/spacer sometime in 94 and replaced it >with a fixed hole in about the same location as the old sensor >was fitted. Guess they improved the sensor or decided the gap >was not too critical. I'm getting the idea that we are discussing the 4.0 engine, and not the V-8. ---- |
Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:06:42 -0500, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote: >---- wrote: >> I have to agree with Mike. There is nothing in the service manual >> about any shim or spacer under the CPS. Neither is anything included >> with a new CPS that looks like that. I have one sitting in front of >> me. I'm curious about the two, different CPS units the mechanics >> showed you. My '93 ZJ V-8 was one of the first produced in 1992. It >> has the 2-bolt type as shown in the service manual. The Mopar No. for >> this CPS is 1-56026701. > >On the 93 production year there were two (possibly three) different >transmissions and two different CPS sensors. 92 1/2 or early 93 >production run and the 93. Mine is a mix of 93/4 parts and a pain >in the ass to order parts for. > >http://revbeergoggles.com/cps/ >http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diag...tml#CPSdetails > >The original on-hole CPS sensor doesn't actually have a hole >in so much as it has a slot. On the original sensor there is >a cardboard bit glued to the end. You just slide it in till >the spacer hits then tighten it down. The spacer then erodes. > >They did away with that sensor/spacer sometime in 94 and replaced it >with a fixed hole in about the same location as the old sensor >was fitted. Guess they improved the sensor or decided the gap >was not too critical. I'm getting the idea that we are discussing the 4.0 engine, and not the V-8. ---- |
Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:06:42 -0500, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> wrote: >---- wrote: >> I have to agree with Mike. There is nothing in the service manual >> about any shim or spacer under the CPS. Neither is anything included >> with a new CPS that looks like that. I have one sitting in front of >> me. I'm curious about the two, different CPS units the mechanics >> showed you. My '93 ZJ V-8 was one of the first produced in 1992. It >> has the 2-bolt type as shown in the service manual. The Mopar No. for >> this CPS is 1-56026701. > >On the 93 production year there were two (possibly three) different >transmissions and two different CPS sensors. 92 1/2 or early 93 >production run and the 93. Mine is a mix of 93/4 parts and a pain >in the ass to order parts for. > >http://revbeergoggles.com/cps/ >http://revbeergoggles.com/Fixes/diag...tml#CPSdetails > >The original on-hole CPS sensor doesn't actually have a hole >in so much as it has a slot. On the original sensor there is >a cardboard bit glued to the end. You just slide it in till >the spacer hits then tighten it down. The spacer then erodes. > >They did away with that sensor/spacer sometime in 94 and replaced it >with a fixed hole in about the same location as the old sensor >was fitted. Guess they improved the sensor or decided the gap >was not too critical. I'm getting the idea that we are discussing the 4.0 engine, and not the V-8. ---- |
Re: 1993 GC Limited - I Miss My Jeep!!
>I'm getting the idea that we are discussing the 4.0 engine, and not
>the V-8. > >---- Correct. 4.0L inline 6 cylinder. |
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