1982 CJ-7
06-06-2005, 11:02 PM
#51
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Re: 1982 CJ-7
I think you have to. Because all the gears are spinning while the
Dana 300 is in neutral, being spun be the transmission, that's how we
make sure all is lubricated every hundred miles or so flat towing. Pull
the driveshaft, and you should be able to feel it by turning the pinion
by hand, then confirm the pieces by removing the cover.
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Norman wrote:
>
> No noise with the transfer in neutral and the transmission in gear with the
> engine running.
>
> Take the front shaft back out and try again?
>
> Thanks Bill,
> Norman
Dana 300 is in neutral, being spun be the transmission, that's how we
make sure all is lubricated every hundred miles or so flat towing. Pull
the driveshaft, and you should be able to feel it by turning the pinion
by hand, then confirm the pieces by removing the cover.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Norman wrote:
>
> No noise with the transfer in neutral and the transmission in gear with the
> engine running.
>
> Take the front shaft back out and try again?
>
> Thanks Bill,
> Norman
06-06-2005, 11:02 PM
#52
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Re: 1982 CJ-7
I think you have to. Because all the gears are spinning while the
Dana 300 is in neutral, being spun be the transmission, that's how we
make sure all is lubricated every hundred miles or so flat towing. Pull
the driveshaft, and you should be able to feel it by turning the pinion
by hand, then confirm the pieces by removing the cover.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Norman wrote:
>
> No noise with the transfer in neutral and the transmission in gear with the
> engine running.
>
> Take the front shaft back out and try again?
>
> Thanks Bill,
> Norman
Dana 300 is in neutral, being spun be the transmission, that's how we
make sure all is lubricated every hundred miles or so flat towing. Pull
the driveshaft, and you should be able to feel it by turning the pinion
by hand, then confirm the pieces by removing the cover.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Norman wrote:
>
> No noise with the transfer in neutral and the transmission in gear with the
> engine running.
>
> Take the front shaft back out and try again?
>
> Thanks Bill,
> Norman
06-06-2005, 11:02 PM
#53
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Posts: n/a
Re: 1982 CJ-7
I think you have to. Because all the gears are spinning while the
Dana 300 is in neutral, being spun be the transmission, that's how we
make sure all is lubricated every hundred miles or so flat towing. Pull
the driveshaft, and you should be able to feel it by turning the pinion
by hand, then confirm the pieces by removing the cover.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Norman wrote:
>
> No noise with the transfer in neutral and the transmission in gear with the
> engine running.
>
> Take the front shaft back out and try again?
>
> Thanks Bill,
> Norman
Dana 300 is in neutral, being spun be the transmission, that's how we
make sure all is lubricated every hundred miles or so flat towing. Pull
the driveshaft, and you should be able to feel it by turning the pinion
by hand, then confirm the pieces by removing the cover.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Norman wrote:
>
> No noise with the transfer in neutral and the transmission in gear with the
> engine running.
>
> Take the front shaft back out and try again?
>
> Thanks Bill,
> Norman
06-07-2005, 08:15 AM
#54
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Re: 1982 CJ-7
Norman wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:429B7323.F953753@sympatico.ca...
> > Norman wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:429A43A9.223D0F37@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That really sounds like one of your hubs came loose and blew up or the
> > > > grease inside is sooo dry it isn't letting the lock ring slide down to
> > > > fully latch. The hubs are supposed to be periodically cleaned to get
> > > > the mud out and they call for a 'little' light white grease.
> > > >
> > > > To verify, I would go in 4x4 with the hubs open and see if you have
> > > > noise, then lock one hub at a time to find the stuck or busted one.
> > > >
> > > > I blow the stupid stock ones up all the time. I now have one Warn
> lock
> > > > with the other going in as soon as I bust the next one.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Norman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Until 8 months ago, I faithfully locked in my hubs and drove 5 miles
> to
> > > > > lubricate the axle while driving off road. Last September I moved
> from
> > > the
> > > > > AZ desert to Washington State. My Jeep has been parked for 7 months
> > > after
> > > > > driving it 1500 miles to get it here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I went to an off road park to lock in my hubs and heard a clacking
> noise
> > > > > when I increased the RPM's in 4 high and 4 low. It sounded like my
> > > transfer
> > > > > case was not fully engaged. I unlocked the hubs, drove a few
> hundred
> > > yards
> > > > > and tried again. I heard the same clacking noises like the gear was
> not
> > > > > fully engaged.
> > > > >
> > > > > My wife bought our Jeep new in 1982, so we know it's entire history.
> We
> > > have
> > > > > never had any problem like this before. Am I looking at a simple
> > > > > adjustment, or do I need to have major hardware replaced?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > Norman
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > > -----
> > > I engaged 4 low without locking either hub, stomped on the gas and
> heard,
> > > the same awful clanking noise. I'm assuming that the transfer case is
> the
> > > problem.
> > >
> >
> > Don't eliminate a bad u-joint. You are spinning up the drive train only
> > now, so your hubs are fine. A dead u-joint will make a pile of noise
> > before it explodes. You have 4 u-joints up front, two on the driveshaft
> > and one on each axle.
> >
> > The next test would be to remove the front driveshaft and put it in 4x4
> > with the hubs open.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> -----------------------------------------
> I now have 2 new U joints on the front drive shaft. When I engage 4L
> without locking the hubs, I still hear the same awful clanking noise.
>
> Have I now narrowed the problem down to the transfer case, or should I check
> the mounts next?
>
> I appreciate the guidance.
>
> Norman
Did it make noise with no front driveshaft in there and the hubs open
and in 4x4?
The reason I mentioned that test, was to also eliminate the two other
u-joints at the axle ends and to eliminate an issue with the front
pumpkin.
If the front driveshaft is out and you are in 4x4, then the noise has to
come from the t-case.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:429B7323.F953753@sympatico.ca...
> > Norman wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:429A43A9.223D0F37@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That really sounds like one of your hubs came loose and blew up or the
> > > > grease inside is sooo dry it isn't letting the lock ring slide down to
> > > > fully latch. The hubs are supposed to be periodically cleaned to get
> > > > the mud out and they call for a 'little' light white grease.
> > > >
> > > > To verify, I would go in 4x4 with the hubs open and see if you have
> > > > noise, then lock one hub at a time to find the stuck or busted one.
> > > >
> > > > I blow the stupid stock ones up all the time. I now have one Warn
> lock
> > > > with the other going in as soon as I bust the next one.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Norman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Until 8 months ago, I faithfully locked in my hubs and drove 5 miles
> to
> > > > > lubricate the axle while driving off road. Last September I moved
> from
> > > the
> > > > > AZ desert to Washington State. My Jeep has been parked for 7 months
> > > after
> > > > > driving it 1500 miles to get it here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I went to an off road park to lock in my hubs and heard a clacking
> noise
> > > > > when I increased the RPM's in 4 high and 4 low. It sounded like my
> > > transfer
> > > > > case was not fully engaged. I unlocked the hubs, drove a few
> hundred
> > > yards
> > > > > and tried again. I heard the same clacking noises like the gear was
> not
> > > > > fully engaged.
> > > > >
> > > > > My wife bought our Jeep new in 1982, so we know it's entire history.
> We
> > > have
> > > > > never had any problem like this before. Am I looking at a simple
> > > > > adjustment, or do I need to have major hardware replaced?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > Norman
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > > -----
> > > I engaged 4 low without locking either hub, stomped on the gas and
> heard,
> > > the same awful clanking noise. I'm assuming that the transfer case is
> the
> > > problem.
> > >
> >
> > Don't eliminate a bad u-joint. You are spinning up the drive train only
> > now, so your hubs are fine. A dead u-joint will make a pile of noise
> > before it explodes. You have 4 u-joints up front, two on the driveshaft
> > and one on each axle.
> >
> > The next test would be to remove the front driveshaft and put it in 4x4
> > with the hubs open.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> -----------------------------------------
> I now have 2 new U joints on the front drive shaft. When I engage 4L
> without locking the hubs, I still hear the same awful clanking noise.
>
> Have I now narrowed the problem down to the transfer case, or should I check
> the mounts next?
>
> I appreciate the guidance.
>
> Norman
Did it make noise with no front driveshaft in there and the hubs open
and in 4x4?
The reason I mentioned that test, was to also eliminate the two other
u-joints at the axle ends and to eliminate an issue with the front
pumpkin.
If the front driveshaft is out and you are in 4x4, then the noise has to
come from the t-case.
Mike
06-07-2005, 08:15 AM
#55
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Re: 1982 CJ-7
Norman wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:429B7323.F953753@sympatico.ca...
> > Norman wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:429A43A9.223D0F37@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That really sounds like one of your hubs came loose and blew up or the
> > > > grease inside is sooo dry it isn't letting the lock ring slide down to
> > > > fully latch. The hubs are supposed to be periodically cleaned to get
> > > > the mud out and they call for a 'little' light white grease.
> > > >
> > > > To verify, I would go in 4x4 with the hubs open and see if you have
> > > > noise, then lock one hub at a time to find the stuck or busted one.
> > > >
> > > > I blow the stupid stock ones up all the time. I now have one Warn
> lock
> > > > with the other going in as soon as I bust the next one.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Norman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Until 8 months ago, I faithfully locked in my hubs and drove 5 miles
> to
> > > > > lubricate the axle while driving off road. Last September I moved
> from
> > > the
> > > > > AZ desert to Washington State. My Jeep has been parked for 7 months
> > > after
> > > > > driving it 1500 miles to get it here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I went to an off road park to lock in my hubs and heard a clacking
> noise
> > > > > when I increased the RPM's in 4 high and 4 low. It sounded like my
> > > transfer
> > > > > case was not fully engaged. I unlocked the hubs, drove a few
> hundred
> > > yards
> > > > > and tried again. I heard the same clacking noises like the gear was
> not
> > > > > fully engaged.
> > > > >
> > > > > My wife bought our Jeep new in 1982, so we know it's entire history.
> We
> > > have
> > > > > never had any problem like this before. Am I looking at a simple
> > > > > adjustment, or do I need to have major hardware replaced?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > Norman
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > > -----
> > > I engaged 4 low without locking either hub, stomped on the gas and
> heard,
> > > the same awful clanking noise. I'm assuming that the transfer case is
> the
> > > problem.
> > >
> >
> > Don't eliminate a bad u-joint. You are spinning up the drive train only
> > now, so your hubs are fine. A dead u-joint will make a pile of noise
> > before it explodes. You have 4 u-joints up front, two on the driveshaft
> > and one on each axle.
> >
> > The next test would be to remove the front driveshaft and put it in 4x4
> > with the hubs open.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> -----------------------------------------
> I now have 2 new U joints on the front drive shaft. When I engage 4L
> without locking the hubs, I still hear the same awful clanking noise.
>
> Have I now narrowed the problem down to the transfer case, or should I check
> the mounts next?
>
> I appreciate the guidance.
>
> Norman
Did it make noise with no front driveshaft in there and the hubs open
and in 4x4?
The reason I mentioned that test, was to also eliminate the two other
u-joints at the axle ends and to eliminate an issue with the front
pumpkin.
If the front driveshaft is out and you are in 4x4, then the noise has to
come from the t-case.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:429B7323.F953753@sympatico.ca...
> > Norman wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:429A43A9.223D0F37@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That really sounds like one of your hubs came loose and blew up or the
> > > > grease inside is sooo dry it isn't letting the lock ring slide down to
> > > > fully latch. The hubs are supposed to be periodically cleaned to get
> > > > the mud out and they call for a 'little' light white grease.
> > > >
> > > > To verify, I would go in 4x4 with the hubs open and see if you have
> > > > noise, then lock one hub at a time to find the stuck or busted one.
> > > >
> > > > I blow the stupid stock ones up all the time. I now have one Warn
> lock
> > > > with the other going in as soon as I bust the next one.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Norman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Until 8 months ago, I faithfully locked in my hubs and drove 5 miles
> to
> > > > > lubricate the axle while driving off road. Last September I moved
> from
> > > the
> > > > > AZ desert to Washington State. My Jeep has been parked for 7 months
> > > after
> > > > > driving it 1500 miles to get it here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I went to an off road park to lock in my hubs and heard a clacking
> noise
> > > > > when I increased the RPM's in 4 high and 4 low. It sounded like my
> > > transfer
> > > > > case was not fully engaged. I unlocked the hubs, drove a few
> hundred
> > > yards
> > > > > and tried again. I heard the same clacking noises like the gear was
> not
> > > > > fully engaged.
> > > > >
> > > > > My wife bought our Jeep new in 1982, so we know it's entire history.
> We
> > > have
> > > > > never had any problem like this before. Am I looking at a simple
> > > > > adjustment, or do I need to have major hardware replaced?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > Norman
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > > -----
> > > I engaged 4 low without locking either hub, stomped on the gas and
> heard,
> > > the same awful clanking noise. I'm assuming that the transfer case is
> the
> > > problem.
> > >
> >
> > Don't eliminate a bad u-joint. You are spinning up the drive train only
> > now, so your hubs are fine. A dead u-joint will make a pile of noise
> > before it explodes. You have 4 u-joints up front, two on the driveshaft
> > and one on each axle.
> >
> > The next test would be to remove the front driveshaft and put it in 4x4
> > with the hubs open.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> -----------------------------------------
> I now have 2 new U joints on the front drive shaft. When I engage 4L
> without locking the hubs, I still hear the same awful clanking noise.
>
> Have I now narrowed the problem down to the transfer case, or should I check
> the mounts next?
>
> I appreciate the guidance.
>
> Norman
Did it make noise with no front driveshaft in there and the hubs open
and in 4x4?
The reason I mentioned that test, was to also eliminate the two other
u-joints at the axle ends and to eliminate an issue with the front
pumpkin.
If the front driveshaft is out and you are in 4x4, then the noise has to
come from the t-case.
Mike
06-07-2005, 08:15 AM
#56
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Posts: n/a
Re: 1982 CJ-7
Norman wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:429B7323.F953753@sympatico.ca...
> > Norman wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:429A43A9.223D0F37@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That really sounds like one of your hubs came loose and blew up or the
> > > > grease inside is sooo dry it isn't letting the lock ring slide down to
> > > > fully latch. The hubs are supposed to be periodically cleaned to get
> > > > the mud out and they call for a 'little' light white grease.
> > > >
> > > > To verify, I would go in 4x4 with the hubs open and see if you have
> > > > noise, then lock one hub at a time to find the stuck or busted one.
> > > >
> > > > I blow the stupid stock ones up all the time. I now have one Warn
> lock
> > > > with the other going in as soon as I bust the next one.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Norman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Until 8 months ago, I faithfully locked in my hubs and drove 5 miles
> to
> > > > > lubricate the axle while driving off road. Last September I moved
> from
> > > the
> > > > > AZ desert to Washington State. My Jeep has been parked for 7 months
> > > after
> > > > > driving it 1500 miles to get it here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I went to an off road park to lock in my hubs and heard a clacking
> noise
> > > > > when I increased the RPM's in 4 high and 4 low. It sounded like my
> > > transfer
> > > > > case was not fully engaged. I unlocked the hubs, drove a few
> hundred
> > > yards
> > > > > and tried again. I heard the same clacking noises like the gear was
> not
> > > > > fully engaged.
> > > > >
> > > > > My wife bought our Jeep new in 1982, so we know it's entire history.
> We
> > > have
> > > > > never had any problem like this before. Am I looking at a simple
> > > > > adjustment, or do I need to have major hardware replaced?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > Norman
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > > -----
> > > I engaged 4 low without locking either hub, stomped on the gas and
> heard,
> > > the same awful clanking noise. I'm assuming that the transfer case is
> the
> > > problem.
> > >
> >
> > Don't eliminate a bad u-joint. You are spinning up the drive train only
> > now, so your hubs are fine. A dead u-joint will make a pile of noise
> > before it explodes. You have 4 u-joints up front, two on the driveshaft
> > and one on each axle.
> >
> > The next test would be to remove the front driveshaft and put it in 4x4
> > with the hubs open.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> -----------------------------------------
> I now have 2 new U joints on the front drive shaft. When I engage 4L
> without locking the hubs, I still hear the same awful clanking noise.
>
> Have I now narrowed the problem down to the transfer case, or should I check
> the mounts next?
>
> I appreciate the guidance.
>
> Norman
Did it make noise with no front driveshaft in there and the hubs open
and in 4x4?
The reason I mentioned that test, was to also eliminate the two other
u-joints at the axle ends and to eliminate an issue with the front
pumpkin.
If the front driveshaft is out and you are in 4x4, then the noise has to
come from the t-case.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:429B7323.F953753@sympatico.ca...
> > Norman wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:429A43A9.223D0F37@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That really sounds like one of your hubs came loose and blew up or the
> > > > grease inside is sooo dry it isn't letting the lock ring slide down to
> > > > fully latch. The hubs are supposed to be periodically cleaned to get
> > > > the mud out and they call for a 'little' light white grease.
> > > >
> > > > To verify, I would go in 4x4 with the hubs open and see if you have
> > > > noise, then lock one hub at a time to find the stuck or busted one.
> > > >
> > > > I blow the stupid stock ones up all the time. I now have one Warn
> lock
> > > > with the other going in as soon as I bust the next one.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Norman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Until 8 months ago, I faithfully locked in my hubs and drove 5 miles
> to
> > > > > lubricate the axle while driving off road. Last September I moved
> from
> > > the
> > > > > AZ desert to Washington State. My Jeep has been parked for 7 months
> > > after
> > > > > driving it 1500 miles to get it here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I went to an off road park to lock in my hubs and heard a clacking
> noise
> > > > > when I increased the RPM's in 4 high and 4 low. It sounded like my
> > > transfer
> > > > > case was not fully engaged. I unlocked the hubs, drove a few
> hundred
> > > yards
> > > > > and tried again. I heard the same clacking noises like the gear was
> not
> > > > > fully engaged.
> > > > >
> > > > > My wife bought our Jeep new in 1982, so we know it's entire history.
> We
> > > have
> > > > > never had any problem like this before. Am I looking at a simple
> > > > > adjustment, or do I need to have major hardware replaced?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > Norman
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > > -----
> > > I engaged 4 low without locking either hub, stomped on the gas and
> heard,
> > > the same awful clanking noise. I'm assuming that the transfer case is
> the
> > > problem.
> > >
> >
> > Don't eliminate a bad u-joint. You are spinning up the drive train only
> > now, so your hubs are fine. A dead u-joint will make a pile of noise
> > before it explodes. You have 4 u-joints up front, two on the driveshaft
> > and one on each axle.
> >
> > The next test would be to remove the front driveshaft and put it in 4x4
> > with the hubs open.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> -----------------------------------------
> I now have 2 new U joints on the front drive shaft. When I engage 4L
> without locking the hubs, I still hear the same awful clanking noise.
>
> Have I now narrowed the problem down to the transfer case, or should I check
> the mounts next?
>
> I appreciate the guidance.
>
> Norman
Did it make noise with no front driveshaft in there and the hubs open
and in 4x4?
The reason I mentioned that test, was to also eliminate the two other
u-joints at the axle ends and to eliminate an issue with the front
pumpkin.
If the front driveshaft is out and you are in 4x4, then the noise has to
come from the t-case.
Mike
06-07-2005, 08:15 AM
#57
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Re: 1982 CJ-7
Norman wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:429B7323.F953753@sympatico.ca...
> > Norman wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:429A43A9.223D0F37@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That really sounds like one of your hubs came loose and blew up or the
> > > > grease inside is sooo dry it isn't letting the lock ring slide down to
> > > > fully latch. The hubs are supposed to be periodically cleaned to get
> > > > the mud out and they call for a 'little' light white grease.
> > > >
> > > > To verify, I would go in 4x4 with the hubs open and see if you have
> > > > noise, then lock one hub at a time to find the stuck or busted one.
> > > >
> > > > I blow the stupid stock ones up all the time. I now have one Warn
> lock
> > > > with the other going in as soon as I bust the next one.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Norman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Until 8 months ago, I faithfully locked in my hubs and drove 5 miles
> to
> > > > > lubricate the axle while driving off road. Last September I moved
> from
> > > the
> > > > > AZ desert to Washington State. My Jeep has been parked for 7 months
> > > after
> > > > > driving it 1500 miles to get it here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I went to an off road park to lock in my hubs and heard a clacking
> noise
> > > > > when I increased the RPM's in 4 high and 4 low. It sounded like my
> > > transfer
> > > > > case was not fully engaged. I unlocked the hubs, drove a few
> hundred
> > > yards
> > > > > and tried again. I heard the same clacking noises like the gear was
> not
> > > > > fully engaged.
> > > > >
> > > > > My wife bought our Jeep new in 1982, so we know it's entire history.
> We
> > > have
> > > > > never had any problem like this before. Am I looking at a simple
> > > > > adjustment, or do I need to have major hardware replaced?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > Norman
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > > -----
> > > I engaged 4 low without locking either hub, stomped on the gas and
> heard,
> > > the same awful clanking noise. I'm assuming that the transfer case is
> the
> > > problem.
> > >
> >
> > Don't eliminate a bad u-joint. You are spinning up the drive train only
> > now, so your hubs are fine. A dead u-joint will make a pile of noise
> > before it explodes. You have 4 u-joints up front, two on the driveshaft
> > and one on each axle.
> >
> > The next test would be to remove the front driveshaft and put it in 4x4
> > with the hubs open.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> -----------------------------------------
> I now have 2 new U joints on the front drive shaft. When I engage 4L
> without locking the hubs, I still hear the same awful clanking noise.
>
> Have I now narrowed the problem down to the transfer case, or should I check
> the mounts next?
>
> I appreciate the guidance.
>
> Norman
Did it make noise with no front driveshaft in there and the hubs open
and in 4x4?
The reason I mentioned that test, was to also eliminate the two other
u-joints at the axle ends and to eliminate an issue with the front
pumpkin.
If the front driveshaft is out and you are in 4x4, then the noise has to
come from the t-case.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:429B7323.F953753@sympatico.ca...
> > Norman wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:429A43A9.223D0F37@sympatico.ca...
> > > > That really sounds like one of your hubs came loose and blew up or the
> > > > grease inside is sooo dry it isn't letting the lock ring slide down to
> > > > fully latch. The hubs are supposed to be periodically cleaned to get
> > > > the mud out and they call for a 'little' light white grease.
> > > >
> > > > To verify, I would go in 4x4 with the hubs open and see if you have
> > > > noise, then lock one hub at a time to find the stuck or busted one.
> > > >
> > > > I blow the stupid stock ones up all the time. I now have one Warn
> lock
> > > > with the other going in as soon as I bust the next one.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Norman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Until 8 months ago, I faithfully locked in my hubs and drove 5 miles
> to
> > > > > lubricate the axle while driving off road. Last September I moved
> from
> > > the
> > > > > AZ desert to Washington State. My Jeep has been parked for 7 months
> > > after
> > > > > driving it 1500 miles to get it here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I went to an off road park to lock in my hubs and heard a clacking
> noise
> > > > > when I increased the RPM's in 4 high and 4 low. It sounded like my
> > > transfer
> > > > > case was not fully engaged. I unlocked the hubs, drove a few
> hundred
> > > yards
> > > > > and tried again. I heard the same clacking noises like the gear was
> not
> > > > > fully engaged.
> > > > >
> > > > > My wife bought our Jeep new in 1982, so we know it's entire history.
> We
> > > have
> > > > > never had any problem like this before. Am I looking at a simple
> > > > > adjustment, or do I need to have major hardware replaced?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > Norman
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > > -----
> > > I engaged 4 low without locking either hub, stomped on the gas and
> heard,
> > > the same awful clanking noise. I'm assuming that the transfer case is
> the
> > > problem.
> > >
> >
> > Don't eliminate a bad u-joint. You are spinning up the drive train only
> > now, so your hubs are fine. A dead u-joint will make a pile of noise
> > before it explodes. You have 4 u-joints up front, two on the driveshaft
> > and one on each axle.
> >
> > The next test would be to remove the front driveshaft and put it in 4x4
> > with the hubs open.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> -----------------------------------------
> I now have 2 new U joints on the front drive shaft. When I engage 4L
> without locking the hubs, I still hear the same awful clanking noise.
>
> Have I now narrowed the problem down to the transfer case, or should I check
> the mounts next?
>
> I appreciate the guidance.
>
> Norman
Did it make noise with no front driveshaft in there and the hubs open
and in 4x4?
The reason I mentioned that test, was to also eliminate the two other
u-joints at the axle ends and to eliminate an issue with the front
pumpkin.
If the front driveshaft is out and you are in 4x4, then the noise has to
come from the t-case.
Mike
06-07-2005, 08:15 AM
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Re: 1982 CJ-7
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> I think you have to. Because all the gears are spinning while the
> Dana 300 is in neutral, being spun be the transmission, that's how we
> make sure all is lubricated every hundred miles or so flat towing. Pull
> the driveshaft, and you should be able to feel it by turning the pinion
> by hand, then confirm the pieces by removing the cover.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Norman wrote:
> >
> > No noise with the transfer in neutral and the transmission in gear with
the
> > engine running.
> >
> > Take the front shaft back out and try again?
> >
> > Thanks Bill,
> > Norman
------------------------------------------
I'll test it with the front shaft removed this weekend.
Thanks again,
Norman
06-07-2005, 08:15 AM
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Re: 1982 CJ-7
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42A50E40.16CFE287@***.net...
> I think you have to. Because all the gears are spinning while the
> Dana 300 is in neutral, being spun be the transmission, that's how we
> make sure all is lubricated every hundred miles or so flat towing. Pull
> the driveshaft, and you should be able to feel it by turning the pinion
> by hand, then confirm the pieces by removing the cover.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Norman wrote:
> >
> > No noise with the transfer in neutral and the transmission in gear with
the
> > engine running.
> >
> > Take the front shaft back out and try again?
> >
> > Thanks Bill,
> > Norman
------------------------------------------
I'll test it with the front shaft removed this weekend.
Thanks again,
Norman
06-07-2005, 08:15 AM
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Re: 1982 CJ-7
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42A50E40.16CFE287@***.net...
> I think you have to. Because all the gears are spinning while the
> Dana 300 is in neutral, being spun be the transmission, that's how we
> make sure all is lubricated every hundred miles or so flat towing. Pull
> the driveshaft, and you should be able to feel it by turning the pinion
> by hand, then confirm the pieces by removing the cover.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Norman wrote:
> >
> > No noise with the transfer in neutral and the transmission in gear with
the
> > engine running.
> >
> > Take the front shaft back out and try again?
> >
> > Thanks Bill,
> > Norman
------------------------------------------
I'll test it with the front shaft removed this weekend.
Thanks again,
Norman