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Re: Iraq Was :R134a Refrigerant
Honestly, what I think we need now is a president who will disengage from
this mess in an honorable fashion. I don't think that is Bush, and I don't
think it would have been Kerry. The Tar Baby story,
<http://www.otmfan.com/html/brertar.htm>, comes to mind.
"Brer Rabbit kept on asking her why she wouldn't talk and the Tar-Baby kept
on saying nothing until Brer Rabbit finally drew back his fist, he did, and
blip--he hit the Tar-Baby on the jaw. But his fist stuck and he couldn't
pull it loose. The tar held him. But Tar-Baby, she stayed still, and Brer
Fox, he lay low.
"'If you don't let me loose, I'm going to hit you again,' says Brer Rabbit,
says he, and with that he drew back his other fist and blap--he hit the
Tar-Baby with the other hand and that one stuck fast too."
I love that story. It has some similarity to recent events. I am not
saying I would have ultimately invaded Iraq in Mr. Bush's place, and I am
not saying I would not have, either. I would have made damn sure I wasn't
hauling off to hit a Tar Baby though. Sadly, I don't think any Brer Fox is
going to come along and throw us into the briar patch where we perhaps
belong.
I quit the ambulance association shortly after I had to report the president
for mishandling a patient. Now I have the state nursing board investigating
him, and the board of medical examiners going after the medical director.
Silverton and San Juan County have about five medics now, where last summer
they had twenty-six. If you have lived in any small town, you can imagine
some of the sh*t that has gone down here. I may continue the paramedic
training at some future date, but for now I am getting ready to go to the
Basque Country to perfect my Spanish. If you come to this area, bring your
own first aid kit, know how to use it, and drive carefully.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42AB1763.B0CE3F41@***.net...
> Hi Earl,
> Good seeing you in here again.
> Something wrong with video: http://www.----------.com/badAtom.jpg
> I think everyone was fooled in including Bush, and don't you
> remember Kerry's flip, flops? And I believe there were weapons like the
> thousands of Kurds didn't just fall over by themselves, just that
> Hussein had time to move them to Syria.
> Did you get a job with the Paramedics you were retraining for?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > They're not my kids.
> >
> >
> > "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> > Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> > can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17,
2002
> > You can find the video here.
> > http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
> >
> > Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> > again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool
some
> > of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time,
but
> > you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
> >
> > "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> > country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> > fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> > on believing everything you hear.
> >
> > The other side lies too...
> >
> > Earle
this mess in an honorable fashion. I don't think that is Bush, and I don't
think it would have been Kerry. The Tar Baby story,
<http://www.otmfan.com/html/brertar.htm>, comes to mind.
"Brer Rabbit kept on asking her why she wouldn't talk and the Tar-Baby kept
on saying nothing until Brer Rabbit finally drew back his fist, he did, and
blip--he hit the Tar-Baby on the jaw. But his fist stuck and he couldn't
pull it loose. The tar held him. But Tar-Baby, she stayed still, and Brer
Fox, he lay low.
"'If you don't let me loose, I'm going to hit you again,' says Brer Rabbit,
says he, and with that he drew back his other fist and blap--he hit the
Tar-Baby with the other hand and that one stuck fast too."
I love that story. It has some similarity to recent events. I am not
saying I would have ultimately invaded Iraq in Mr. Bush's place, and I am
not saying I would not have, either. I would have made damn sure I wasn't
hauling off to hit a Tar Baby though. Sadly, I don't think any Brer Fox is
going to come along and throw us into the briar patch where we perhaps
belong.
I quit the ambulance association shortly after I had to report the president
for mishandling a patient. Now I have the state nursing board investigating
him, and the board of medical examiners going after the medical director.
Silverton and San Juan County have about five medics now, where last summer
they had twenty-six. If you have lived in any small town, you can imagine
some of the sh*t that has gone down here. I may continue the paramedic
training at some future date, but for now I am getting ready to go to the
Basque Country to perfect my Spanish. If you come to this area, bring your
own first aid kit, know how to use it, and drive carefully.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42AB1763.B0CE3F41@***.net...
> Hi Earl,
> Good seeing you in here again.
> Something wrong with video: http://www.----------.com/badAtom.jpg
> I think everyone was fooled in including Bush, and don't you
> remember Kerry's flip, flops? And I believe there were weapons like the
> thousands of Kurds didn't just fall over by themselves, just that
> Hussein had time to move them to Syria.
> Did you get a job with the Paramedics you were retraining for?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > They're not my kids.
> >
> >
> > "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> > Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> > can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17,
2002
> > You can find the video here.
> > http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
> >
> > Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> > again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool
some
> > of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time,
but
> > you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
> >
> > "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> > country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> > fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> > on believing everything you hear.
> >
> > The other side lies too...
> >
> > Earle
#912
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Re: Iraq Was :R134a Refrigerant
Honestly, what I think we need now is a president who will disengage from
this mess in an honorable fashion. I don't think that is Bush, and I don't
think it would have been Kerry. The Tar Baby story,
<http://www.otmfan.com/html/brertar.htm>, comes to mind.
"Brer Rabbit kept on asking her why she wouldn't talk and the Tar-Baby kept
on saying nothing until Brer Rabbit finally drew back his fist, he did, and
blip--he hit the Tar-Baby on the jaw. But his fist stuck and he couldn't
pull it loose. The tar held him. But Tar-Baby, she stayed still, and Brer
Fox, he lay low.
"'If you don't let me loose, I'm going to hit you again,' says Brer Rabbit,
says he, and with that he drew back his other fist and blap--he hit the
Tar-Baby with the other hand and that one stuck fast too."
I love that story. It has some similarity to recent events. I am not
saying I would have ultimately invaded Iraq in Mr. Bush's place, and I am
not saying I would not have, either. I would have made damn sure I wasn't
hauling off to hit a Tar Baby though. Sadly, I don't think any Brer Fox is
going to come along and throw us into the briar patch where we perhaps
belong.
I quit the ambulance association shortly after I had to report the president
for mishandling a patient. Now I have the state nursing board investigating
him, and the board of medical examiners going after the medical director.
Silverton and San Juan County have about five medics now, where last summer
they had twenty-six. If you have lived in any small town, you can imagine
some of the sh*t that has gone down here. I may continue the paramedic
training at some future date, but for now I am getting ready to go to the
Basque Country to perfect my Spanish. If you come to this area, bring your
own first aid kit, know how to use it, and drive carefully.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42AB1763.B0CE3F41@***.net...
> Hi Earl,
> Good seeing you in here again.
> Something wrong with video: http://www.----------.com/badAtom.jpg
> I think everyone was fooled in including Bush, and don't you
> remember Kerry's flip, flops? And I believe there were weapons like the
> thousands of Kurds didn't just fall over by themselves, just that
> Hussein had time to move them to Syria.
> Did you get a job with the Paramedics you were retraining for?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > They're not my kids.
> >
> >
> > "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> > Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> > can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17,
2002
> > You can find the video here.
> > http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
> >
> > Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> > again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool
some
> > of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time,
but
> > you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
> >
> > "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> > country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> > fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> > on believing everything you hear.
> >
> > The other side lies too...
> >
> > Earle
this mess in an honorable fashion. I don't think that is Bush, and I don't
think it would have been Kerry. The Tar Baby story,
<http://www.otmfan.com/html/brertar.htm>, comes to mind.
"Brer Rabbit kept on asking her why she wouldn't talk and the Tar-Baby kept
on saying nothing until Brer Rabbit finally drew back his fist, he did, and
blip--he hit the Tar-Baby on the jaw. But his fist stuck and he couldn't
pull it loose. The tar held him. But Tar-Baby, she stayed still, and Brer
Fox, he lay low.
"'If you don't let me loose, I'm going to hit you again,' says Brer Rabbit,
says he, and with that he drew back his other fist and blap--he hit the
Tar-Baby with the other hand and that one stuck fast too."
I love that story. It has some similarity to recent events. I am not
saying I would have ultimately invaded Iraq in Mr. Bush's place, and I am
not saying I would not have, either. I would have made damn sure I wasn't
hauling off to hit a Tar Baby though. Sadly, I don't think any Brer Fox is
going to come along and throw us into the briar patch where we perhaps
belong.
I quit the ambulance association shortly after I had to report the president
for mishandling a patient. Now I have the state nursing board investigating
him, and the board of medical examiners going after the medical director.
Silverton and San Juan County have about five medics now, where last summer
they had twenty-six. If you have lived in any small town, you can imagine
some of the sh*t that has gone down here. I may continue the paramedic
training at some future date, but for now I am getting ready to go to the
Basque Country to perfect my Spanish. If you come to this area, bring your
own first aid kit, know how to use it, and drive carefully.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42AB1763.B0CE3F41@***.net...
> Hi Earl,
> Good seeing you in here again.
> Something wrong with video: http://www.----------.com/badAtom.jpg
> I think everyone was fooled in including Bush, and don't you
> remember Kerry's flip, flops? And I believe there were weapons like the
> thousands of Kurds didn't just fall over by themselves, just that
> Hussein had time to move them to Syria.
> Did you get a job with the Paramedics you were retraining for?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > They're not my kids.
> >
> >
> > "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> > Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> > can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17,
2002
> > You can find the video here.
> > http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
> >
> > Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> > again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool
some
> > of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time,
but
> > you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
> >
> > "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> > country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> > fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> > on believing everything you hear.
> >
> > The other side lies too...
> >
> > Earle
#913
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Re: Iraq Was :R134a Refrigerant
Honestly, what I think we need now is a president who will disengage from
this mess in an honorable fashion. I don't think that is Bush, and I don't
think it would have been Kerry. The Tar Baby story,
<http://www.otmfan.com/html/brertar.htm>, comes to mind.
"Brer Rabbit kept on asking her why she wouldn't talk and the Tar-Baby kept
on saying nothing until Brer Rabbit finally drew back his fist, he did, and
blip--he hit the Tar-Baby on the jaw. But his fist stuck and he couldn't
pull it loose. The tar held him. But Tar-Baby, she stayed still, and Brer
Fox, he lay low.
"'If you don't let me loose, I'm going to hit you again,' says Brer Rabbit,
says he, and with that he drew back his other fist and blap--he hit the
Tar-Baby with the other hand and that one stuck fast too."
I love that story. It has some similarity to recent events. I am not
saying I would have ultimately invaded Iraq in Mr. Bush's place, and I am
not saying I would not have, either. I would have made damn sure I wasn't
hauling off to hit a Tar Baby though. Sadly, I don't think any Brer Fox is
going to come along and throw us into the briar patch where we perhaps
belong.
I quit the ambulance association shortly after I had to report the president
for mishandling a patient. Now I have the state nursing board investigating
him, and the board of medical examiners going after the medical director.
Silverton and San Juan County have about five medics now, where last summer
they had twenty-six. If you have lived in any small town, you can imagine
some of the sh*t that has gone down here. I may continue the paramedic
training at some future date, but for now I am getting ready to go to the
Basque Country to perfect my Spanish. If you come to this area, bring your
own first aid kit, know how to use it, and drive carefully.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42AB1763.B0CE3F41@***.net...
> Hi Earl,
> Good seeing you in here again.
> Something wrong with video: http://www.----------.com/badAtom.jpg
> I think everyone was fooled in including Bush, and don't you
> remember Kerry's flip, flops? And I believe there were weapons like the
> thousands of Kurds didn't just fall over by themselves, just that
> Hussein had time to move them to Syria.
> Did you get a job with the Paramedics you were retraining for?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > They're not my kids.
> >
> >
> > "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> > Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> > can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17,
2002
> > You can find the video here.
> > http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
> >
> > Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> > again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool
some
> > of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time,
but
> > you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
> >
> > "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> > country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> > fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> > on believing everything you hear.
> >
> > The other side lies too...
> >
> > Earle
this mess in an honorable fashion. I don't think that is Bush, and I don't
think it would have been Kerry. The Tar Baby story,
<http://www.otmfan.com/html/brertar.htm>, comes to mind.
"Brer Rabbit kept on asking her why she wouldn't talk and the Tar-Baby kept
on saying nothing until Brer Rabbit finally drew back his fist, he did, and
blip--he hit the Tar-Baby on the jaw. But his fist stuck and he couldn't
pull it loose. The tar held him. But Tar-Baby, she stayed still, and Brer
Fox, he lay low.
"'If you don't let me loose, I'm going to hit you again,' says Brer Rabbit,
says he, and with that he drew back his other fist and blap--he hit the
Tar-Baby with the other hand and that one stuck fast too."
I love that story. It has some similarity to recent events. I am not
saying I would have ultimately invaded Iraq in Mr. Bush's place, and I am
not saying I would not have, either. I would have made damn sure I wasn't
hauling off to hit a Tar Baby though. Sadly, I don't think any Brer Fox is
going to come along and throw us into the briar patch where we perhaps
belong.
I quit the ambulance association shortly after I had to report the president
for mishandling a patient. Now I have the state nursing board investigating
him, and the board of medical examiners going after the medical director.
Silverton and San Juan County have about five medics now, where last summer
they had twenty-six. If you have lived in any small town, you can imagine
some of the sh*t that has gone down here. I may continue the paramedic
training at some future date, but for now I am getting ready to go to the
Basque Country to perfect my Spanish. If you come to this area, bring your
own first aid kit, know how to use it, and drive carefully.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42AB1763.B0CE3F41@***.net...
> Hi Earl,
> Good seeing you in here again.
> Something wrong with video: http://www.----------.com/badAtom.jpg
> I think everyone was fooled in including Bush, and don't you
> remember Kerry's flip, flops? And I believe there were weapons like the
> thousands of Kurds didn't just fall over by themselves, just that
> Hussein had time to move them to Syria.
> Did you get a job with the Paramedics you were retraining for?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > They're not my kids.
> >
> >
> > "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> > Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> > can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17,
2002
> > You can find the video here.
> > http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
> >
> > Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> > again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool
some
> > of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time,
but
> > you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
> >
> > "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> > country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> > fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> > on believing everything you hear.
> >
> > The other side lies too...
> >
> > Earle
#914
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Re: Iraq Was :R134a Refrigerant
My point is that everyone involved in this situation has been "lying", or at
least pretending to know what they don't know. I taught my kids to mistrust
authority and to think for themselves, and it looks like I succeeded. It
would be a better world if more people did that. You raise an interesting
ethical point. Do I owe the kids serving in Iraq respect, merely because
they *think* they are helping me? Leaving aside the argument that there are
lots of reasons to join the armed forces, and that many of them find being
shot at by insurgents more tolerable than whatever civilian hell they are
trying to escape, I would say "no".
Earle
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_OEqe.2557$751.957@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1118505901.7e9cff131bef54e59823c73fd7c428db@t eranews...
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:0jrqe.2460$751.1458@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> ...
> > I don't believe in selling the troops short... they're
> > our kids, and deserve our support.
>
> They're not my kids.
I'm childless, myself... what point, exactly,
do you hope to make here? Those poor
folks over there are missing life, getting
wounded, *dying*... because they've been
misled. We've all been misled... and the
*most* tragic thing is, the big reason they're
over there is because they think they're helping
*you*... if you can't respect *that*, then FOAD...
soon.
> > But I'm *not* going to let all this distract me
> > from the big problem...
> > the US people were lied to in a systematic way.
>
> "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
> You can find the video here.
> http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
Yes, Bush funny. But evil... bad, bad Bush.
Remember when laughing.
BTW, I didn't believe all the admin hype when it came out...
even if there was uranium involved, there was no way a
unilateral invasion of Iraq was going to help the 'War On
Terror'... in fact, not only did it distract from cracking
down on al Qaeda, it actually helped their recruiting.
Muslims in the street all over the world hate US now...
and believe it or not, there are forces at work that want
it that way. Remember when Bush used the 'crusade'
word? What an incredible nincompoop... Bush invading
Iraq was like Fox suing Franken.... you can imagine
bin Laden in his hole, chanting 'yes, yes, Bush... invade
Iraq!'.
> Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool some
> of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but
> you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
Blah, blah, blah.... make a point, or suck eggs.
> "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> on believing everything you hear.
It's not exactly clear which country you belong
to... although you did mention 'my compatriots'...
Are you trying to make the point that the USA
populace, as a whole, deserves Bush? That's
pretty hard to argue with... but it's not a point
that helps any discussion I care to participate in.
> > Blindly following Bush is getting us in deeper...
> > the truth about the occupation has to come out.
> > I'm sorry if returning troops don't like what they
> > read... but it's not lies.
>
> The other side lies too...
So we should blindly follow Bush? Are you
trying to make a point, or do you just like seeing
your byline on the NG?
__
Steve
..
least pretending to know what they don't know. I taught my kids to mistrust
authority and to think for themselves, and it looks like I succeeded. It
would be a better world if more people did that. You raise an interesting
ethical point. Do I owe the kids serving in Iraq respect, merely because
they *think* they are helping me? Leaving aside the argument that there are
lots of reasons to join the armed forces, and that many of them find being
shot at by insurgents more tolerable than whatever civilian hell they are
trying to escape, I would say "no".
Earle
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_OEqe.2557$751.957@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1118505901.7e9cff131bef54e59823c73fd7c428db@t eranews...
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:0jrqe.2460$751.1458@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> ...
> > I don't believe in selling the troops short... they're
> > our kids, and deserve our support.
>
> They're not my kids.
I'm childless, myself... what point, exactly,
do you hope to make here? Those poor
folks over there are missing life, getting
wounded, *dying*... because they've been
misled. We've all been misled... and the
*most* tragic thing is, the big reason they're
over there is because they think they're helping
*you*... if you can't respect *that*, then FOAD...
soon.
> > But I'm *not* going to let all this distract me
> > from the big problem...
> > the US people were lied to in a systematic way.
>
> "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
> You can find the video here.
> http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
Yes, Bush funny. But evil... bad, bad Bush.
Remember when laughing.
BTW, I didn't believe all the admin hype when it came out...
even if there was uranium involved, there was no way a
unilateral invasion of Iraq was going to help the 'War On
Terror'... in fact, not only did it distract from cracking
down on al Qaeda, it actually helped their recruiting.
Muslims in the street all over the world hate US now...
and believe it or not, there are forces at work that want
it that way. Remember when Bush used the 'crusade'
word? What an incredible nincompoop... Bush invading
Iraq was like Fox suing Franken.... you can imagine
bin Laden in his hole, chanting 'yes, yes, Bush... invade
Iraq!'.
> Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool some
> of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but
> you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
Blah, blah, blah.... make a point, or suck eggs.
> "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> on believing everything you hear.
It's not exactly clear which country you belong
to... although you did mention 'my compatriots'...
Are you trying to make the point that the USA
populace, as a whole, deserves Bush? That's
pretty hard to argue with... but it's not a point
that helps any discussion I care to participate in.
> > Blindly following Bush is getting us in deeper...
> > the truth about the occupation has to come out.
> > I'm sorry if returning troops don't like what they
> > read... but it's not lies.
>
> The other side lies too...
So we should blindly follow Bush? Are you
trying to make a point, or do you just like seeing
your byline on the NG?
__
Steve
..
#915
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Iraq Was :R134a Refrigerant
My point is that everyone involved in this situation has been "lying", or at
least pretending to know what they don't know. I taught my kids to mistrust
authority and to think for themselves, and it looks like I succeeded. It
would be a better world if more people did that. You raise an interesting
ethical point. Do I owe the kids serving in Iraq respect, merely because
they *think* they are helping me? Leaving aside the argument that there are
lots of reasons to join the armed forces, and that many of them find being
shot at by insurgents more tolerable than whatever civilian hell they are
trying to escape, I would say "no".
Earle
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_OEqe.2557$751.957@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1118505901.7e9cff131bef54e59823c73fd7c428db@t eranews...
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:0jrqe.2460$751.1458@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> ...
> > I don't believe in selling the troops short... they're
> > our kids, and deserve our support.
>
> They're not my kids.
I'm childless, myself... what point, exactly,
do you hope to make here? Those poor
folks over there are missing life, getting
wounded, *dying*... because they've been
misled. We've all been misled... and the
*most* tragic thing is, the big reason they're
over there is because they think they're helping
*you*... if you can't respect *that*, then FOAD...
soon.
> > But I'm *not* going to let all this distract me
> > from the big problem...
> > the US people were lied to in a systematic way.
>
> "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
> You can find the video here.
> http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
Yes, Bush funny. But evil... bad, bad Bush.
Remember when laughing.
BTW, I didn't believe all the admin hype when it came out...
even if there was uranium involved, there was no way a
unilateral invasion of Iraq was going to help the 'War On
Terror'... in fact, not only did it distract from cracking
down on al Qaeda, it actually helped their recruiting.
Muslims in the street all over the world hate US now...
and believe it or not, there are forces at work that want
it that way. Remember when Bush used the 'crusade'
word? What an incredible nincompoop... Bush invading
Iraq was like Fox suing Franken.... you can imagine
bin Laden in his hole, chanting 'yes, yes, Bush... invade
Iraq!'.
> Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool some
> of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but
> you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
Blah, blah, blah.... make a point, or suck eggs.
> "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> on believing everything you hear.
It's not exactly clear which country you belong
to... although you did mention 'my compatriots'...
Are you trying to make the point that the USA
populace, as a whole, deserves Bush? That's
pretty hard to argue with... but it's not a point
that helps any discussion I care to participate in.
> > Blindly following Bush is getting us in deeper...
> > the truth about the occupation has to come out.
> > I'm sorry if returning troops don't like what they
> > read... but it's not lies.
>
> The other side lies too...
So we should blindly follow Bush? Are you
trying to make a point, or do you just like seeing
your byline on the NG?
__
Steve
..
least pretending to know what they don't know. I taught my kids to mistrust
authority and to think for themselves, and it looks like I succeeded. It
would be a better world if more people did that. You raise an interesting
ethical point. Do I owe the kids serving in Iraq respect, merely because
they *think* they are helping me? Leaving aside the argument that there are
lots of reasons to join the armed forces, and that many of them find being
shot at by insurgents more tolerable than whatever civilian hell they are
trying to escape, I would say "no".
Earle
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_OEqe.2557$751.957@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1118505901.7e9cff131bef54e59823c73fd7c428db@t eranews...
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:0jrqe.2460$751.1458@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> ...
> > I don't believe in selling the troops short... they're
> > our kids, and deserve our support.
>
> They're not my kids.
I'm childless, myself... what point, exactly,
do you hope to make here? Those poor
folks over there are missing life, getting
wounded, *dying*... because they've been
misled. We've all been misled... and the
*most* tragic thing is, the big reason they're
over there is because they think they're helping
*you*... if you can't respect *that*, then FOAD...
soon.
> > But I'm *not* going to let all this distract me
> > from the big problem...
> > the US people were lied to in a systematic way.
>
> "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
> You can find the video here.
> http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
Yes, Bush funny. But evil... bad, bad Bush.
Remember when laughing.
BTW, I didn't believe all the admin hype when it came out...
even if there was uranium involved, there was no way a
unilateral invasion of Iraq was going to help the 'War On
Terror'... in fact, not only did it distract from cracking
down on al Qaeda, it actually helped their recruiting.
Muslims in the street all over the world hate US now...
and believe it or not, there are forces at work that want
it that way. Remember when Bush used the 'crusade'
word? What an incredible nincompoop... Bush invading
Iraq was like Fox suing Franken.... you can imagine
bin Laden in his hole, chanting 'yes, yes, Bush... invade
Iraq!'.
> Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool some
> of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but
> you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
Blah, blah, blah.... make a point, or suck eggs.
> "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> on believing everything you hear.
It's not exactly clear which country you belong
to... although you did mention 'my compatriots'...
Are you trying to make the point that the USA
populace, as a whole, deserves Bush? That's
pretty hard to argue with... but it's not a point
that helps any discussion I care to participate in.
> > Blindly following Bush is getting us in deeper...
> > the truth about the occupation has to come out.
> > I'm sorry if returning troops don't like what they
> > read... but it's not lies.
>
> The other side lies too...
So we should blindly follow Bush? Are you
trying to make a point, or do you just like seeing
your byline on the NG?
__
Steve
..
#916
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Iraq Was :R134a Refrigerant
My point is that everyone involved in this situation has been "lying", or at
least pretending to know what they don't know. I taught my kids to mistrust
authority and to think for themselves, and it looks like I succeeded. It
would be a better world if more people did that. You raise an interesting
ethical point. Do I owe the kids serving in Iraq respect, merely because
they *think* they are helping me? Leaving aside the argument that there are
lots of reasons to join the armed forces, and that many of them find being
shot at by insurgents more tolerable than whatever civilian hell they are
trying to escape, I would say "no".
Earle
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_OEqe.2557$751.957@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1118505901.7e9cff131bef54e59823c73fd7c428db@t eranews...
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:0jrqe.2460$751.1458@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> ...
> > I don't believe in selling the troops short... they're
> > our kids, and deserve our support.
>
> They're not my kids.
I'm childless, myself... what point, exactly,
do you hope to make here? Those poor
folks over there are missing life, getting
wounded, *dying*... because they've been
misled. We've all been misled... and the
*most* tragic thing is, the big reason they're
over there is because they think they're helping
*you*... if you can't respect *that*, then FOAD...
soon.
> > But I'm *not* going to let all this distract me
> > from the big problem...
> > the US people were lied to in a systematic way.
>
> "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
> You can find the video here.
> http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
Yes, Bush funny. But evil... bad, bad Bush.
Remember when laughing.
BTW, I didn't believe all the admin hype when it came out...
even if there was uranium involved, there was no way a
unilateral invasion of Iraq was going to help the 'War On
Terror'... in fact, not only did it distract from cracking
down on al Qaeda, it actually helped their recruiting.
Muslims in the street all over the world hate US now...
and believe it or not, there are forces at work that want
it that way. Remember when Bush used the 'crusade'
word? What an incredible nincompoop... Bush invading
Iraq was like Fox suing Franken.... you can imagine
bin Laden in his hole, chanting 'yes, yes, Bush... invade
Iraq!'.
> Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool some
> of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but
> you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
Blah, blah, blah.... make a point, or suck eggs.
> "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> on believing everything you hear.
It's not exactly clear which country you belong
to... although you did mention 'my compatriots'...
Are you trying to make the point that the USA
populace, as a whole, deserves Bush? That's
pretty hard to argue with... but it's not a point
that helps any discussion I care to participate in.
> > Blindly following Bush is getting us in deeper...
> > the truth about the occupation has to come out.
> > I'm sorry if returning troops don't like what they
> > read... but it's not lies.
>
> The other side lies too...
So we should blindly follow Bush? Are you
trying to make a point, or do you just like seeing
your byline on the NG?
__
Steve
..
least pretending to know what they don't know. I taught my kids to mistrust
authority and to think for themselves, and it looks like I succeeded. It
would be a better world if more people did that. You raise an interesting
ethical point. Do I owe the kids serving in Iraq respect, merely because
they *think* they are helping me? Leaving aside the argument that there are
lots of reasons to join the armed forces, and that many of them find being
shot at by insurgents more tolerable than whatever civilian hell they are
trying to escape, I would say "no".
Earle
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_OEqe.2557$751.957@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1118505901.7e9cff131bef54e59823c73fd7c428db@t eranews...
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:0jrqe.2460$751.1458@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> ...
> > I don't believe in selling the troops short... they're
> > our kids, and deserve our support.
>
> They're not my kids.
I'm childless, myself... what point, exactly,
do you hope to make here? Those poor
folks over there are missing life, getting
wounded, *dying*... because they've been
misled. We've all been misled... and the
*most* tragic thing is, the big reason they're
over there is because they think they're helping
*you*... if you can't respect *that*, then FOAD...
soon.
> > But I'm *not* going to let all this distract me
> > from the big problem...
> > the US people were lied to in a systematic way.
>
> "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
> You can find the video here.
> http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
Yes, Bush funny. But evil... bad, bad Bush.
Remember when laughing.
BTW, I didn't believe all the admin hype when it came out...
even if there was uranium involved, there was no way a
unilateral invasion of Iraq was going to help the 'War On
Terror'... in fact, not only did it distract from cracking
down on al Qaeda, it actually helped their recruiting.
Muslims in the street all over the world hate US now...
and believe it or not, there are forces at work that want
it that way. Remember when Bush used the 'crusade'
word? What an incredible nincompoop... Bush invading
Iraq was like Fox suing Franken.... you can imagine
bin Laden in his hole, chanting 'yes, yes, Bush... invade
Iraq!'.
> Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool some
> of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but
> you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
Blah, blah, blah.... make a point, or suck eggs.
> "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> on believing everything you hear.
It's not exactly clear which country you belong
to... although you did mention 'my compatriots'...
Are you trying to make the point that the USA
populace, as a whole, deserves Bush? That's
pretty hard to argue with... but it's not a point
that helps any discussion I care to participate in.
> > Blindly following Bush is getting us in deeper...
> > the truth about the occupation has to come out.
> > I'm sorry if returning troops don't like what they
> > read... but it's not lies.
>
> The other side lies too...
So we should blindly follow Bush? Are you
trying to make a point, or do you just like seeing
your byline on the NG?
__
Steve
..
#917
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Iraq Was :R134a Refrigerant
My point is that everyone involved in this situation has been "lying", or at
least pretending to know what they don't know. I taught my kids to mistrust
authority and to think for themselves, and it looks like I succeeded. It
would be a better world if more people did that. You raise an interesting
ethical point. Do I owe the kids serving in Iraq respect, merely because
they *think* they are helping me? Leaving aside the argument that there are
lots of reasons to join the armed forces, and that many of them find being
shot at by insurgents more tolerable than whatever civilian hell they are
trying to escape, I would say "no".
Earle
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_OEqe.2557$751.957@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1118505901.7e9cff131bef54e59823c73fd7c428db@t eranews...
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:0jrqe.2460$751.1458@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> ...
> > I don't believe in selling the troops short... they're
> > our kids, and deserve our support.
>
> They're not my kids.
I'm childless, myself... what point, exactly,
do you hope to make here? Those poor
folks over there are missing life, getting
wounded, *dying*... because they've been
misled. We've all been misled... and the
*most* tragic thing is, the big reason they're
over there is because they think they're helping
*you*... if you can't respect *that*, then FOAD...
soon.
> > But I'm *not* going to let all this distract me
> > from the big problem...
> > the US people were lied to in a systematic way.
>
> "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
> You can find the video here.
> http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
Yes, Bush funny. But evil... bad, bad Bush.
Remember when laughing.
BTW, I didn't believe all the admin hype when it came out...
even if there was uranium involved, there was no way a
unilateral invasion of Iraq was going to help the 'War On
Terror'... in fact, not only did it distract from cracking
down on al Qaeda, it actually helped their recruiting.
Muslims in the street all over the world hate US now...
and believe it or not, there are forces at work that want
it that way. Remember when Bush used the 'crusade'
word? What an incredible nincompoop... Bush invading
Iraq was like Fox suing Franken.... you can imagine
bin Laden in his hole, chanting 'yes, yes, Bush... invade
Iraq!'.
> Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool some
> of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but
> you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
Blah, blah, blah.... make a point, or suck eggs.
> "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> on believing everything you hear.
It's not exactly clear which country you belong
to... although you did mention 'my compatriots'...
Are you trying to make the point that the USA
populace, as a whole, deserves Bush? That's
pretty hard to argue with... but it's not a point
that helps any discussion I care to participate in.
> > Blindly following Bush is getting us in deeper...
> > the truth about the occupation has to come out.
> > I'm sorry if returning troops don't like what they
> > read... but it's not lies.
>
> The other side lies too...
So we should blindly follow Bush? Are you
trying to make a point, or do you just like seeing
your byline on the NG?
__
Steve
..
least pretending to know what they don't know. I taught my kids to mistrust
authority and to think for themselves, and it looks like I succeeded. It
would be a better world if more people did that. You raise an interesting
ethical point. Do I owe the kids serving in Iraq respect, merely because
they *think* they are helping me? Leaving aside the argument that there are
lots of reasons to join the armed forces, and that many of them find being
shot at by insurgents more tolerable than whatever civilian hell they are
trying to escape, I would say "no".
Earle
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_OEqe.2557$751.957@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1118505901.7e9cff131bef54e59823c73fd7c428db@t eranews...
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:0jrqe.2460$751.1458@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
> ...
> > I don't believe in selling the troops short... they're
> > our kids, and deserve our support.
>
> They're not my kids.
I'm childless, myself... what point, exactly,
do you hope to make here? Those poor
folks over there are missing life, getting
wounded, *dying*... because they've been
misled. We've all been misled... and the
*most* tragic thing is, the big reason they're
over there is because they think they're helping
*you*... if you can't respect *that*, then FOAD...
soon.
> > But I'm *not* going to let all this distract me
> > from the big problem...
> > the US people were lied to in a systematic way.
>
> "There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
> Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you
> can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
> You can find the video here.
> http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...a/foolbush.mov
Yes, Bush funny. But evil... bad, bad Bush.
Remember when laughing.
BTW, I didn't believe all the admin hype when it came out...
even if there was uranium involved, there was no way a
unilateral invasion of Iraq was going to help the 'War On
Terror'... in fact, not only did it distract from cracking
down on al Qaeda, it actually helped their recruiting.
Muslims in the street all over the world hate US now...
and believe it or not, there are forces at work that want
it that way. Remember when Bush used the 'crusade'
word? What an incredible nincompoop... Bush invading
Iraq was like Fox suing Franken.... you can imagine
bin Laden in his hole, chanting 'yes, yes, Bush... invade
Iraq!'.
> Unfortunately, it appears that most of my compatriots can "get fooled
> again", and again, and again. Another Republican said, "You can fool some
> of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but
> you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
Blah, blah, blah.... make a point, or suck eggs.
> "The big problem" is that most of the people, most of the time, in my
> country prefer to allow those in authority to think for them. It's not
your
> fault if you're lied to, but it is your fault, in this world, if you
insist
> on believing everything you hear.
It's not exactly clear which country you belong
to... although you did mention 'my compatriots'...
Are you trying to make the point that the USA
populace, as a whole, deserves Bush? That's
pretty hard to argue with... but it's not a point
that helps any discussion I care to participate in.
> > Blindly following Bush is getting us in deeper...
> > the truth about the occupation has to come out.
> > I'm sorry if returning troops don't like what they
> > read... but it's not lies.
>
> The other side lies too...
So we should blindly follow Bush? Are you
trying to make a point, or do you just like seeing
your byline on the NG?
__
Steve
..
#918
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Iraq Was :R134a Refrigerant
Watch your back.
Sell while it's on the bubble, and go home.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Honestly, what I think we need now is a president who will disengage from
> this mess in an honorable fashion. I don't think that is Bush, and I don't
> think it would have been Kerry. The Tar Baby story,
> <http://www.otmfan.com/html/brertar.htm>, comes to mind.
>
> "Brer Rabbit kept on asking her why she wouldn't talk and the Tar-Baby kept
> on saying nothing until Brer Rabbit finally drew back his fist, he did, and
> blip--he hit the Tar-Baby on the jaw. But his fist stuck and he couldn't
> pull it loose. The tar held him. But Tar-Baby, she stayed still, and Brer
> Fox, he lay low.
>
> "'If you don't let me loose, I'm going to hit you again,' says Brer Rabbit,
> says he, and with that he drew back his other fist and blap--he hit the
> Tar-Baby with the other hand and that one stuck fast too."
>
> I love that story. It has some similarity to recent events. I am not
> saying I would have ultimately invaded Iraq in Mr. Bush's place, and I am
> not saying I would not have, either. I would have made damn sure I wasn't
> hauling off to hit a Tar Baby though. Sadly, I don't think any Brer Fox is
> going to come along and throw us into the briar patch where we perhaps
> belong.
>
> I quit the ambulance association shortly after I had to report the president
> for mishandling a patient. Now I have the state nursing board investigating
> him, and the board of medical examiners going after the medical director.
> Silverton and San Juan County have about five medics now, where last summer
> they had twenty-six. If you have lived in any small town, you can imagine
> some of the sh*t that has gone down here. I may continue the paramedic
> training at some future date, but for now I am getting ready to go to the
> Basque Country to perfect my Spanish. If you come to this area, bring your
> own first aid kit, know how to use it, and drive carefully.
>
> Earle
Sell while it's on the bubble, and go home.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Honestly, what I think we need now is a president who will disengage from
> this mess in an honorable fashion. I don't think that is Bush, and I don't
> think it would have been Kerry. The Tar Baby story,
> <http://www.otmfan.com/html/brertar.htm>, comes to mind.
>
> "Brer Rabbit kept on asking her why she wouldn't talk and the Tar-Baby kept
> on saying nothing until Brer Rabbit finally drew back his fist, he did, and
> blip--he hit the Tar-Baby on the jaw. But his fist stuck and he couldn't
> pull it loose. The tar held him. But Tar-Baby, she stayed still, and Brer
> Fox, he lay low.
>
> "'If you don't let me loose, I'm going to hit you again,' says Brer Rabbit,
> says he, and with that he drew back his other fist and blap--he hit the
> Tar-Baby with the other hand and that one stuck fast too."
>
> I love that story. It has some similarity to recent events. I am not
> saying I would have ultimately invaded Iraq in Mr. Bush's place, and I am
> not saying I would not have, either. I would have made damn sure I wasn't
> hauling off to hit a Tar Baby though. Sadly, I don't think any Brer Fox is
> going to come along and throw us into the briar patch where we perhaps
> belong.
>
> I quit the ambulance association shortly after I had to report the president
> for mishandling a patient. Now I have the state nursing board investigating
> him, and the board of medical examiners going after the medical director.
> Silverton and San Juan County have about five medics now, where last summer
> they had twenty-six. If you have lived in any small town, you can imagine
> some of the sh*t that has gone down here. I may continue the paramedic
> training at some future date, but for now I am getting ready to go to the
> Basque Country to perfect my Spanish. If you come to this area, bring your
> own first aid kit, know how to use it, and drive carefully.
>
> Earle
#919
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Iraq Was :R134a Refrigerant
Watch your back.
Sell while it's on the bubble, and go home.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Honestly, what I think we need now is a president who will disengage from
> this mess in an honorable fashion. I don't think that is Bush, and I don't
> think it would have been Kerry. The Tar Baby story,
> <http://www.otmfan.com/html/brertar.htm>, comes to mind.
>
> "Brer Rabbit kept on asking her why she wouldn't talk and the Tar-Baby kept
> on saying nothing until Brer Rabbit finally drew back his fist, he did, and
> blip--he hit the Tar-Baby on the jaw. But his fist stuck and he couldn't
> pull it loose. The tar held him. But Tar-Baby, she stayed still, and Brer
> Fox, he lay low.
>
> "'If you don't let me loose, I'm going to hit you again,' says Brer Rabbit,
> says he, and with that he drew back his other fist and blap--he hit the
> Tar-Baby with the other hand and that one stuck fast too."
>
> I love that story. It has some similarity to recent events. I am not
> saying I would have ultimately invaded Iraq in Mr. Bush's place, and I am
> not saying I would not have, either. I would have made damn sure I wasn't
> hauling off to hit a Tar Baby though. Sadly, I don't think any Brer Fox is
> going to come along and throw us into the briar patch where we perhaps
> belong.
>
> I quit the ambulance association shortly after I had to report the president
> for mishandling a patient. Now I have the state nursing board investigating
> him, and the board of medical examiners going after the medical director.
> Silverton and San Juan County have about five medics now, where last summer
> they had twenty-six. If you have lived in any small town, you can imagine
> some of the sh*t that has gone down here. I may continue the paramedic
> training at some future date, but for now I am getting ready to go to the
> Basque Country to perfect my Spanish. If you come to this area, bring your
> own first aid kit, know how to use it, and drive carefully.
>
> Earle
Sell while it's on the bubble, and go home.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Honestly, what I think we need now is a president who will disengage from
> this mess in an honorable fashion. I don't think that is Bush, and I don't
> think it would have been Kerry. The Tar Baby story,
> <http://www.otmfan.com/html/brertar.htm>, comes to mind.
>
> "Brer Rabbit kept on asking her why she wouldn't talk and the Tar-Baby kept
> on saying nothing until Brer Rabbit finally drew back his fist, he did, and
> blip--he hit the Tar-Baby on the jaw. But his fist stuck and he couldn't
> pull it loose. The tar held him. But Tar-Baby, she stayed still, and Brer
> Fox, he lay low.
>
> "'If you don't let me loose, I'm going to hit you again,' says Brer Rabbit,
> says he, and with that he drew back his other fist and blap--he hit the
> Tar-Baby with the other hand and that one stuck fast too."
>
> I love that story. It has some similarity to recent events. I am not
> saying I would have ultimately invaded Iraq in Mr. Bush's place, and I am
> not saying I would not have, either. I would have made damn sure I wasn't
> hauling off to hit a Tar Baby though. Sadly, I don't think any Brer Fox is
> going to come along and throw us into the briar patch where we perhaps
> belong.
>
> I quit the ambulance association shortly after I had to report the president
> for mishandling a patient. Now I have the state nursing board investigating
> him, and the board of medical examiners going after the medical director.
> Silverton and San Juan County have about five medics now, where last summer
> they had twenty-six. If you have lived in any small town, you can imagine
> some of the sh*t that has gone down here. I may continue the paramedic
> training at some future date, but for now I am getting ready to go to the
> Basque Country to perfect my Spanish. If you come to this area, bring your
> own first aid kit, know how to use it, and drive carefully.
>
> Earle
#920
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Iraq Was :R134a Refrigerant
Watch your back.
Sell while it's on the bubble, and go home.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Honestly, what I think we need now is a president who will disengage from
> this mess in an honorable fashion. I don't think that is Bush, and I don't
> think it would have been Kerry. The Tar Baby story,
> <http://www.otmfan.com/html/brertar.htm>, comes to mind.
>
> "Brer Rabbit kept on asking her why she wouldn't talk and the Tar-Baby kept
> on saying nothing until Brer Rabbit finally drew back his fist, he did, and
> blip--he hit the Tar-Baby on the jaw. But his fist stuck and he couldn't
> pull it loose. The tar held him. But Tar-Baby, she stayed still, and Brer
> Fox, he lay low.
>
> "'If you don't let me loose, I'm going to hit you again,' says Brer Rabbit,
> says he, and with that he drew back his other fist and blap--he hit the
> Tar-Baby with the other hand and that one stuck fast too."
>
> I love that story. It has some similarity to recent events. I am not
> saying I would have ultimately invaded Iraq in Mr. Bush's place, and I am
> not saying I would not have, either. I would have made damn sure I wasn't
> hauling off to hit a Tar Baby though. Sadly, I don't think any Brer Fox is
> going to come along and throw us into the briar patch where we perhaps
> belong.
>
> I quit the ambulance association shortly after I had to report the president
> for mishandling a patient. Now I have the state nursing board investigating
> him, and the board of medical examiners going after the medical director.
> Silverton and San Juan County have about five medics now, where last summer
> they had twenty-six. If you have lived in any small town, you can imagine
> some of the sh*t that has gone down here. I may continue the paramedic
> training at some future date, but for now I am getting ready to go to the
> Basque Country to perfect my Spanish. If you come to this area, bring your
> own first aid kit, know how to use it, and drive carefully.
>
> Earle
Sell while it's on the bubble, and go home.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Honestly, what I think we need now is a president who will disengage from
> this mess in an honorable fashion. I don't think that is Bush, and I don't
> think it would have been Kerry. The Tar Baby story,
> <http://www.otmfan.com/html/brertar.htm>, comes to mind.
>
> "Brer Rabbit kept on asking her why she wouldn't talk and the Tar-Baby kept
> on saying nothing until Brer Rabbit finally drew back his fist, he did, and
> blip--he hit the Tar-Baby on the jaw. But his fist stuck and he couldn't
> pull it loose. The tar held him. But Tar-Baby, she stayed still, and Brer
> Fox, he lay low.
>
> "'If you don't let me loose, I'm going to hit you again,' says Brer Rabbit,
> says he, and with that he drew back his other fist and blap--he hit the
> Tar-Baby with the other hand and that one stuck fast too."
>
> I love that story. It has some similarity to recent events. I am not
> saying I would have ultimately invaded Iraq in Mr. Bush's place, and I am
> not saying I would not have, either. I would have made damn sure I wasn't
> hauling off to hit a Tar Baby though. Sadly, I don't think any Brer Fox is
> going to come along and throw us into the briar patch where we perhaps
> belong.
>
> I quit the ambulance association shortly after I had to report the president
> for mishandling a patient. Now I have the state nursing board investigating
> him, and the board of medical examiners going after the medical director.
> Silverton and San Juan County have about five medics now, where last summer
> they had twenty-six. If you have lived in any small town, you can imagine
> some of the sh*t that has gone down here. I may continue the paramedic
> training at some future date, but for now I am getting ready to go to the
> Basque Country to perfect my Spanish. If you come to this area, bring your
> own first aid kit, know how to use it, and drive carefully.
>
> Earle