134a Refrigerant
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
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> BTW, as to your statement that "Nobody in the Industry" uses the term
> Freon as a generic descriptor for a family of chemical compounds roughly
> described as CFCs and HCFCs, here's a few links
your links mean _nothing_ to me. you do a google and think you know
something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
> Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
> refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
refrigerant upwards through the returns.
> I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
> and float it out the window?
certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:10sDe.38984$Tx1.1895@trnddc03...
> BTW, as to your statement that "Nobody in the Industry" uses the term
> Freon as a generic descriptor for a family of chemical compounds roughly
> described as CFCs and HCFCs, here's a few links
your links mean _nothing_ to me. you do a google and think you know
something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
> Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
> refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
refrigerant upwards through the returns.
> I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
> and float it out the window?
certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
#3452
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:10sDe.38984$Tx1.1895@trnddc03...
> BTW, as to your statement that "Nobody in the Industry" uses the term
> Freon as a generic descriptor for a family of chemical compounds roughly
> described as CFCs and HCFCs, here's a few links
your links mean _nothing_ to me. you do a google and think you know
something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
> Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
> refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
refrigerant upwards through the returns.
> I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
> and float it out the window?
certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:10sDe.38984$Tx1.1895@trnddc03...
> BTW, as to your statement that "Nobody in the Industry" uses the term
> Freon as a generic descriptor for a family of chemical compounds roughly
> described as CFCs and HCFCs, here's a few links
your links mean _nothing_ to me. you do a google and think you know
something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
> Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
> refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
refrigerant upwards through the returns.
> I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
> and float it out the window?
certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
#3453
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:10sDe.38984$Tx1.1895@trnddc03...
> BTW, as to your statement that "Nobody in the Industry" uses the term
> Freon as a generic descriptor for a family of chemical compounds roughly
> described as CFCs and HCFCs, here's a few links
your links mean _nothing_ to me. you do a google and think you know
something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
> Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
> refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
refrigerant upwards through the returns.
> I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
> and float it out the window?
certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:10sDe.38984$Tx1.1895@trnddc03...
> BTW, as to your statement that "Nobody in the Industry" uses the term
> Freon as a generic descriptor for a family of chemical compounds roughly
> described as CFCs and HCFCs, here's a few links
your links mean _nothing_ to me. you do a google and think you know
something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
> Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
> refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
refrigerant upwards through the returns.
> I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
> and float it out the window?
certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
#3454
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> your links mean _nothing_ to me.
Yep, stick your fingers in your ears and say NaaaaNaaaaNaaaa....... I
Can't Hear you.......
> you do a google and think you know
> something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
> around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
> terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
The Google search terms were [Refrigeration Design Freon], and you know
what, the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon
generically, as in offering Freon Compressors, and design expertise in
"Freon and Ammonia based refrigeration", and so on. Bottom line : On one
hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the "Industry"
would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based
refrigerants. Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique,
especially when the authority is yourself.
>>Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
>>refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
>
> the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
> you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
> refrigerant upwards through the returns.
Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
>>I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
>>and float it out the window?
>
> certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
>
Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
argument both ways.
--
jeff
> your links mean _nothing_ to me.
Yep, stick your fingers in your ears and say NaaaaNaaaaNaaaa....... I
Can't Hear you.......
> you do a google and think you know
> something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
> around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
> terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
The Google search terms were [Refrigeration Design Freon], and you know
what, the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon
generically, as in offering Freon Compressors, and design expertise in
"Freon and Ammonia based refrigeration", and so on. Bottom line : On one
hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the "Industry"
would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based
refrigerants. Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique,
especially when the authority is yourself.
>>Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
>>refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
>
> the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
> you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
> refrigerant upwards through the returns.
Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
>>I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
>>and float it out the window?
>
> certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
>
Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
argument both ways.
--
jeff
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> your links mean _nothing_ to me.
Yep, stick your fingers in your ears and say NaaaaNaaaaNaaaa....... I
Can't Hear you.......
> you do a google and think you know
> something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
> around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
> terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
The Google search terms were [Refrigeration Design Freon], and you know
what, the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon
generically, as in offering Freon Compressors, and design expertise in
"Freon and Ammonia based refrigeration", and so on. Bottom line : On one
hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the "Industry"
would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based
refrigerants. Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique,
especially when the authority is yourself.
>>Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
>>refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
>
> the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
> you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
> refrigerant upwards through the returns.
Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
>>I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
>>and float it out the window?
>
> certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
>
Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
argument both ways.
--
jeff
> your links mean _nothing_ to me.
Yep, stick your fingers in your ears and say NaaaaNaaaaNaaaa....... I
Can't Hear you.......
> you do a google and think you know
> something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
> around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
> terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
The Google search terms were [Refrigeration Design Freon], and you know
what, the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon
generically, as in offering Freon Compressors, and design expertise in
"Freon and Ammonia based refrigeration", and so on. Bottom line : On one
hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the "Industry"
would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based
refrigerants. Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique,
especially when the authority is yourself.
>>Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
>>refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
>
> the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
> you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
> refrigerant upwards through the returns.
Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
>>I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
>>and float it out the window?
>
> certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
>
Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
argument both ways.
--
jeff
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> your links mean _nothing_ to me.
Yep, stick your fingers in your ears and say NaaaaNaaaaNaaaa....... I
Can't Hear you.......
> you do a google and think you know
> something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
> around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
> terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
The Google search terms were [Refrigeration Design Freon], and you know
what, the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon
generically, as in offering Freon Compressors, and design expertise in
"Freon and Ammonia based refrigeration", and so on. Bottom line : On one
hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the "Industry"
would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based
refrigerants. Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique,
especially when the authority is yourself.
>>Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
>>refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
>
> the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
> you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
> refrigerant upwards through the returns.
Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
>>I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
>>and float it out the window?
>
> certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
>
Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
argument both ways.
--
jeff
> your links mean _nothing_ to me.
Yep, stick your fingers in your ears and say NaaaaNaaaaNaaaa....... I
Can't Hear you.......
> you do a google and think you know
> something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
> around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
> terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
The Google search terms were [Refrigeration Design Freon], and you know
what, the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon
generically, as in offering Freon Compressors, and design expertise in
"Freon and Ammonia based refrigeration", and so on. Bottom line : On one
hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the "Industry"
would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based
refrigerants. Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique,
especially when the authority is yourself.
>>Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
>>refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
>
> the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
> you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
> refrigerant upwards through the returns.
Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
>>I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
>>and float it out the window?
>
> certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
>
Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
argument both ways.
--
jeff
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> your links mean _nothing_ to me.
Yep, stick your fingers in your ears and say NaaaaNaaaaNaaaa....... I
Can't Hear you.......
> you do a google and think you know
> something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
> around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
> terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
The Google search terms were [Refrigeration Design Freon], and you know
what, the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon
generically, as in offering Freon Compressors, and design expertise in
"Freon and Ammonia based refrigeration", and so on. Bottom line : On one
hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the "Industry"
would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based
refrigerants. Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique,
especially when the authority is yourself.
>>Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
>>refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
>
> the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
> you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
> refrigerant upwards through the returns.
Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
>>I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
>>and float it out the window?
>
> certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
>
Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
argument both ways.
--
jeff
> your links mean _nothing_ to me.
Yep, stick your fingers in your ears and say NaaaaNaaaaNaaaa....... I
Can't Hear you.......
> you do a google and think you know
> something about refrigeration? lol. im in the industry every day, im
> around others in the industry every day, and feel certain i know industry
> terminology better than you and your little google. :-)
The Google search terms were [Refrigeration Design Freon], and you know
what, the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon
generically, as in offering Freon Compressors, and design expertise in
"Freon and Ammonia based refrigeration", and so on. Bottom line : On one
hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the "Industry"
would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based
refrigerants. Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique,
especially when the authority is yourself.
>>Now, a hypothetical question: If a 70's vintage refrigerator leaks it's
>>refrigerant in your basement how do you remove the freon?
>
> the concentration of refrigerant in your basement wouldnt be enough to cause
> you a problem. however, eventually the home hvac system would pull the
> refrigerant upwards through the returns.
Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
>>I can put a fan in the window and rely on air turbulence to mix it all up
>>and float it out the window?
>
> certainly. youre only talking about lifting it a few feet.
>
Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
argument both ways.
--
jeff
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
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> the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon generically
i can do a google and provide you with dozens of links to sites who
celebrate adolph hitler as a hero. does that mean hitler was a hero? of
course not. "freon" is not used within the industry as anymore more than a
brand name. they may use it so that ignorant ----s like you can read along
and pretend you know something about it, but that doesnt make it proper.
> On one hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the
> "Industry"
> would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
> Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
> iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based refrigerants.
> Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique, especially when
> the authority is yourself.
well i guess your little google search makes you the expert! :-)
> Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
not comparable. youre talking about lifting scores of miles and thats not
going to happen from typical winds.
> Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
mix oil and water in a glass. watch them settle. mix them up again and
guess what happens.....it "magically" falls again.
> What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
> from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
> argument both ways.
the breeze doesnt blow from ground level to the ozone layer.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:qpwDe.7703$JJ.3149@trnddc09...
> the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon generically
i can do a google and provide you with dozens of links to sites who
celebrate adolph hitler as a hero. does that mean hitler was a hero? of
course not. "freon" is not used within the industry as anymore more than a
brand name. they may use it so that ignorant ----s like you can read along
and pretend you know something about it, but that doesnt make it proper.
> On one hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the
> "Industry"
> would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
> Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
> iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based refrigerants.
> Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique, especially when
> the authority is yourself.
well i guess your little google search makes you the expert! :-)
> Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
not comparable. youre talking about lifting scores of miles and thats not
going to happen from typical winds.
> Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
mix oil and water in a glass. watch them settle. mix them up again and
guess what happens.....it "magically" falls again.
> What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
> from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
> argument both ways.
the breeze doesnt blow from ground level to the ozone layer.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
#3459
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:qpwDe.7703$JJ.3149@trnddc09...
> the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon generically
i can do a google and provide you with dozens of links to sites who
celebrate adolph hitler as a hero. does that mean hitler was a hero? of
course not. "freon" is not used within the industry as anymore more than a
brand name. they may use it so that ignorant ----s like you can read along
and pretend you know something about it, but that doesnt make it proper.
> On one hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the
> "Industry"
> would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
> Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
> iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based refrigerants.
> Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique, especially when
> the authority is yourself.
well i guess your little google search makes you the expert! :-)
> Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
not comparable. youre talking about lifting scores of miles and thats not
going to happen from typical winds.
> Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
mix oil and water in a glass. watch them settle. mix them up again and
guess what happens.....it "magically" falls again.
> What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
> from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
> argument both ways.
the breeze doesnt blow from ground level to the ozone layer.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:qpwDe.7703$JJ.3149@trnddc09...
> the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon generically
i can do a google and provide you with dozens of links to sites who
celebrate adolph hitler as a hero. does that mean hitler was a hero? of
course not. "freon" is not used within the industry as anymore more than a
brand name. they may use it so that ignorant ----s like you can read along
and pretend you know something about it, but that doesnt make it proper.
> On one hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the
> "Industry"
> would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
> Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
> iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based refrigerants.
> Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique, especially when
> the authority is yourself.
well i guess your little google search makes you the expert! :-)
> Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
not comparable. youre talking about lifting scores of miles and thats not
going to happen from typical winds.
> Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
mix oil and water in a glass. watch them settle. mix them up again and
guess what happens.....it "magically" falls again.
> What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
> from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
> argument both ways.
the breeze doesnt blow from ground level to the ozone layer.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
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> the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon generically
i can do a google and provide you with dozens of links to sites who
celebrate adolph hitler as a hero. does that mean hitler was a hero? of
course not. "freon" is not used within the industry as anymore more than a
brand name. they may use it so that ignorant ----s like you can read along
and pretend you know something about it, but that doesnt make it proper.
> On one hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the
> "Industry"
> would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
> Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
> iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based refrigerants.
> Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique, especially when
> the authority is yourself.
well i guess your little google search makes you the expert! :-)
> Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
not comparable. youre talking about lifting scores of miles and thats not
going to happen from typical winds.
> Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
mix oil and water in a glass. watch them settle. mix them up again and
guess what happens.....it "magically" falls again.
> What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
> from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
> argument both ways.
the breeze doesnt blow from ground level to the ozone layer.
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news:qpwDe.7703$JJ.3149@trnddc09...
> the preponderance of the links came back using the term Freon generically
i can do a google and provide you with dozens of links to sites who
celebrate adolph hitler as a hero. does that mean hitler was a hero? of
course not. "freon" is not used within the industry as anymore more than a
brand name. they may use it so that ignorant ----s like you can read along
and pretend you know something about it, but that doesnt make it proper.
> On one hand I have your unsupported assertion that *NOBODY* in the
> "Industry"
> would ever use FREON in place of R-12 or dichlordiflouromethane.
> Conversely I have provided 25 cites ( and that was just the tip of the
> iceberg) showing common use of the term Freon for cfc based refrigerants.
> Appeals to authority are not a valid argument technique, especially when
> the authority is yourself.
well i guess your little google search makes you the expert! :-)
> Yep, the same mechanism disburses freon in the atmosphere :-)
not comparable. youre talking about lifting scores of miles and thats not
going to happen from typical winds.
> Ok, so I lift it a few feet. Then what? Will it magically fall again?
mix oil and water in a glass. watch them settle. mix them up again and
guess what happens.....it "magically" falls again.
> What prevents some portion of that which a fan lifted a couple of feet
> from being further lifted by a breeze outside? You can't have your
> argument both ways.
the breeze doesnt blow from ground level to the ozone layer.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com