134a Refrigerant
#1441
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Try reasoning with Nate... I'm sure you'll find him much more
> reasonable than I am.
That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
/Peter
Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
#1442
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Peter,
The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
caused by the sun's solar flares:
http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
> That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
> a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
> Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
> undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>
> /Peter
> Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
caused by the sun's solar flares:
http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
> That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
> a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
> Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
> undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>
> /Peter
> Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
#1443
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Peter,
The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
caused by the sun's solar flares:
http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
> That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
> a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
> Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
> undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>
> /Peter
> Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
caused by the sun's solar flares:
http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
> That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
> a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
> Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
> undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>
> /Peter
> Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
#1444
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Peter,
The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
caused by the sun's solar flares:
http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
> That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
> a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
> Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
> undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>
> /Peter
> Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
caused by the sun's solar flares:
http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
> That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
> a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
> Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
> undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>
> /Peter
> Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
#1445
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Peter,
The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
caused by the sun's solar flares:
http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
> That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
> a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
> Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
> undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>
> /Peter
> Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
caused by the sun's solar flares:
http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
> That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
> a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
> Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
> undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>
> /Peter
> Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
#1446
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
So Bill, how did you make out with the gasoline experiment I suggested?
As I haven't seen any fireballs out west I am guessing you are too
chickenshit to stand in the middle of a puddle of gasoline and light a
match, even though the "preponderance of the evidence" is that gasoline
vapors are heavier than air. BTW, while the actual effect of CFCs on
ozone are still somewhat uncertain, the presence of CFCs in the
stratosphere has been measured in samples taken during high altitude
flights. Also, FWIW, even though freon is much lighter than water, it
has been measured in the deepest parts of the ocean. This is the source
of much of the uncertainty in the ozone depletion models: They assumed
no natural sinks, whereas the the oceans, and the ground itself absorb
and sequester CFCs, and there is some evidence for bacterial breakdown
as well.
--
jeff
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Peter,
> The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
> over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
> fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
> liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
> grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
> destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
> bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
> times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
> caused by the sun's solar flares:
> http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
>>That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
>>a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
>>Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
>>undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>>
>>/Peter
>>Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
As I haven't seen any fireballs out west I am guessing you are too
chickenshit to stand in the middle of a puddle of gasoline and light a
match, even though the "preponderance of the evidence" is that gasoline
vapors are heavier than air. BTW, while the actual effect of CFCs on
ozone are still somewhat uncertain, the presence of CFCs in the
stratosphere has been measured in samples taken during high altitude
flights. Also, FWIW, even though freon is much lighter than water, it
has been measured in the deepest parts of the ocean. This is the source
of much of the uncertainty in the ozone depletion models: They assumed
no natural sinks, whereas the the oceans, and the ground itself absorb
and sequester CFCs, and there is some evidence for bacterial breakdown
as well.
--
jeff
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Peter,
> The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
> over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
> fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
> liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
> grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
> destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
> bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
> times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
> caused by the sun's solar flares:
> http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
>>That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
>>a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
>>Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
>>undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>>
>>/Peter
>>Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
#1447
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
So Bill, how did you make out with the gasoline experiment I suggested?
As I haven't seen any fireballs out west I am guessing you are too
chickenshit to stand in the middle of a puddle of gasoline and light a
match, even though the "preponderance of the evidence" is that gasoline
vapors are heavier than air. BTW, while the actual effect of CFCs on
ozone are still somewhat uncertain, the presence of CFCs in the
stratosphere has been measured in samples taken during high altitude
flights. Also, FWIW, even though freon is much lighter than water, it
has been measured in the deepest parts of the ocean. This is the source
of much of the uncertainty in the ozone depletion models: They assumed
no natural sinks, whereas the the oceans, and the ground itself absorb
and sequester CFCs, and there is some evidence for bacterial breakdown
as well.
--
jeff
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Peter,
> The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
> over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
> fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
> liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
> grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
> destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
> bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
> times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
> caused by the sun's solar flares:
> http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
>>That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
>>a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
>>Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
>>undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>>
>>/Peter
>>Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
As I haven't seen any fireballs out west I am guessing you are too
chickenshit to stand in the middle of a puddle of gasoline and light a
match, even though the "preponderance of the evidence" is that gasoline
vapors are heavier than air. BTW, while the actual effect of CFCs on
ozone are still somewhat uncertain, the presence of CFCs in the
stratosphere has been measured in samples taken during high altitude
flights. Also, FWIW, even though freon is much lighter than water, it
has been measured in the deepest parts of the ocean. This is the source
of much of the uncertainty in the ozone depletion models: They assumed
no natural sinks, whereas the the oceans, and the ground itself absorb
and sequester CFCs, and there is some evidence for bacterial breakdown
as well.
--
jeff
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Peter,
> The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
> over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
> fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
> liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
> grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
> destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
> bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
> times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
> caused by the sun's solar flares:
> http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
>>That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
>>a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
>>Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
>>undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>>
>>/Peter
>>Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
#1448
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
So Bill, how did you make out with the gasoline experiment I suggested?
As I haven't seen any fireballs out west I am guessing you are too
chickenshit to stand in the middle of a puddle of gasoline and light a
match, even though the "preponderance of the evidence" is that gasoline
vapors are heavier than air. BTW, while the actual effect of CFCs on
ozone are still somewhat uncertain, the presence of CFCs in the
stratosphere has been measured in samples taken during high altitude
flights. Also, FWIW, even though freon is much lighter than water, it
has been measured in the deepest parts of the ocean. This is the source
of much of the uncertainty in the ozone depletion models: They assumed
no natural sinks, whereas the the oceans, and the ground itself absorb
and sequester CFCs, and there is some evidence for bacterial breakdown
as well.
--
jeff
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Peter,
> The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
> over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
> fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
> liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
> grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
> destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
> bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
> times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
> caused by the sun's solar flares:
> http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
>>That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
>>a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
>>Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
>>undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>>
>>/Peter
>>Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
As I haven't seen any fireballs out west I am guessing you are too
chickenshit to stand in the middle of a puddle of gasoline and light a
match, even though the "preponderance of the evidence" is that gasoline
vapors are heavier than air. BTW, while the actual effect of CFCs on
ozone are still somewhat uncertain, the presence of CFCs in the
stratosphere has been measured in samples taken during high altitude
flights. Also, FWIW, even though freon is much lighter than water, it
has been measured in the deepest parts of the ocean. This is the source
of much of the uncertainty in the ozone depletion models: They assumed
no natural sinks, whereas the the oceans, and the ground itself absorb
and sequester CFCs, and there is some evidence for bacterial breakdown
as well.
--
jeff
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Peter,
> The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
> over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
> fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
> liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
> grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
> destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
> bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
> times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
> caused by the sun's solar flares:
> http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
>>That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
>>a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
>>Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
>>undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>>
>>/Peter
>>Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
#1449
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
So Bill, how did you make out with the gasoline experiment I suggested?
As I haven't seen any fireballs out west I am guessing you are too
chickenshit to stand in the middle of a puddle of gasoline and light a
match, even though the "preponderance of the evidence" is that gasoline
vapors are heavier than air. BTW, while the actual effect of CFCs on
ozone are still somewhat uncertain, the presence of CFCs in the
stratosphere has been measured in samples taken during high altitude
flights. Also, FWIW, even though freon is much lighter than water, it
has been measured in the deepest parts of the ocean. This is the source
of much of the uncertainty in the ozone depletion models: They assumed
no natural sinks, whereas the the oceans, and the ground itself absorb
and sequester CFCs, and there is some evidence for bacterial breakdown
as well.
--
jeff
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Peter,
> The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
> over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
> fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
> liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
> grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
> destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
> bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
> times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
> caused by the sun's solar flares:
> http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
>>That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
>>a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
>>Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
>>undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>>
>>/Peter
>>Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
As I haven't seen any fireballs out west I am guessing you are too
chickenshit to stand in the middle of a puddle of gasoline and light a
match, even though the "preponderance of the evidence" is that gasoline
vapors are heavier than air. BTW, while the actual effect of CFCs on
ozone are still somewhat uncertain, the presence of CFCs in the
stratosphere has been measured in samples taken during high altitude
flights. Also, FWIW, even though freon is much lighter than water, it
has been measured in the deepest parts of the ocean. This is the source
of much of the uncertainty in the ozone depletion models: They assumed
no natural sinks, whereas the the oceans, and the ground itself absorb
and sequester CFCs, and there is some evidence for bacterial breakdown
as well.
--
jeff
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Peter,
> The "preponderance of evidence" is what Nathan has stated over and
> over and over again Chlorofluorocarbons are heavier than air, that's
> fact! Stevie has argued with only the rhetoric from other bleeding heart
> liberals sucking the tax payers moneys while feeding bogus government
> grants, that it miraculously floats up and crosses the equator to
> destroy the ozone in the southern hemisphere. Pure unadulterated
> bullsh*t! Every Real Scientist knows ozone changes have happen many
> times in history, the radiation is recorded in our lava rocks, and is
> caused by the sun's solar flares:
> http://www.google.com/search?biw=784...=Google+Search
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
>
>>That's just it - to me the preponderance of evidence is against there being
>>a point bothering to try to reason with such an unreasonable individual.
>>Continuing to butt your head against a rock in plain view of all of us is
>>undermining my opinion of your own reasonableness.
>>
>>/Peter
>>Refrigerant-free '02 TJ
#1450
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
I tried, but I learned long ago gasoline will extinguish a burning
match.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
jeff wrote:
>
> So Bill, how did you make out with the gasoline experiment I suggested?
> As I haven't seen any fireballs out west I am guessing you are too
> chickenshit to stand in the middle of a puddle of gasoline and light a
> match, even though the "preponderance of the evidence" is that gasoline
> vapors are heavier than air. BTW, while the actual effect of CFCs on
> ozone are still somewhat uncertain, the presence of CFCs in the
> stratosphere has been measured in samples taken during high altitude
> flights. Also, FWIW, even though freon is much lighter than water, it
> has been measured in the deepest parts of the ocean. This is the source
> of much of the uncertainty in the ozone depletion models: They assumed
> no natural sinks, whereas the the oceans, and the ground itself absorb
> and sequester CFCs, and there is some evidence for bacterial breakdown
> as well.
> --
> jeff
match.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
jeff wrote:
>
> So Bill, how did you make out with the gasoline experiment I suggested?
> As I haven't seen any fireballs out west I am guessing you are too
> chickenshit to stand in the middle of a puddle of gasoline and light a
> match, even though the "preponderance of the evidence" is that gasoline
> vapors are heavier than air. BTW, while the actual effect of CFCs on
> ozone are still somewhat uncertain, the presence of CFCs in the
> stratosphere has been measured in samples taken during high altitude
> flights. Also, FWIW, even though freon is much lighter than water, it
> has been measured in the deepest parts of the ocean. This is the source
> of much of the uncertainty in the ozone depletion models: They assumed
> no natural sinks, whereas the the oceans, and the ground itself absorb
> and sequester CFCs, and there is some evidence for bacterial breakdown
> as well.
> --
> jeff