10W30 vs 10W40 in a 2002 TJ
04-02-2007, 09:00 PM
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Re: Re: 10W30 vs 10W40 in a 2002 TJ
On 2 Apr 2007 15:52:59 -0700, "ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> I have heard some horror stories in other groups regarding
>10w40 with too many polmers being added which makes the oil break down
>quicker. I don't buy into it. Just change your oil at regular
>intervals and you should be fine even if you do run 10w40.
The stories are correct. This problem can be really bad with
conventional 10w40 in a engine especailly if you do not change it very
often. (GM had some much truouble with the VI in 10w40 cooking out in
piston rings in 80's and cause them to stick you will not longer find
10w40 as a approved oil for them since that time. use 10w30 or 15w40
but stay away from 10w40 conventional oil.
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TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
> I have heard some horror stories in other groups regarding
>10w40 with too many polmers being added which makes the oil break down
>quicker. I don't buy into it. Just change your oil at regular
>intervals and you should be fine even if you do run 10w40.
The stories are correct. This problem can be really bad with
conventional 10w40 in a engine especailly if you do not change it very
often. (GM had some much truouble with the VI in 10w40 cooking out in
piston rings in 80's and cause them to stick you will not longer find
10w40 as a approved oil for them since that time. use 10w30 or 15w40
but stay away from 10w40 conventional oil.
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TheSnoMan.com
04-02-2007, 09:00 PM
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Re: Re: 10W30 vs 10W40 in a 2002 TJ
On 2 Apr 2007 15:52:59 -0700, "ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> I have heard some horror stories in other groups regarding
>10w40 with too many polmers being added which makes the oil break down
>quicker. I don't buy into it. Just change your oil at regular
>intervals and you should be fine even if you do run 10w40.
The stories are correct. This problem can be really bad with
conventional 10w40 in a engine especailly if you do not change it very
often. (GM had some much truouble with the VI in 10w40 cooking out in
piston rings in 80's and cause them to stick you will not longer find
10w40 as a approved oil for them since that time. use 10w30 or 15w40
but stay away from 10w40 conventional oil.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
> I have heard some horror stories in other groups regarding
>10w40 with too many polmers being added which makes the oil break down
>quicker. I don't buy into it. Just change your oil at regular
>intervals and you should be fine even if you do run 10w40.
The stories are correct. This problem can be really bad with
conventional 10w40 in a engine especailly if you do not change it very
often. (GM had some much truouble with the VI in 10w40 cooking out in
piston rings in 80's and cause them to stick you will not longer find
10w40 as a approved oil for them since that time. use 10w30 or 15w40
but stay away from 10w40 conventional oil.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
04-02-2007, 09:00 PM
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Re: Re: 10W30 vs 10W40 in a 2002 TJ
On 2 Apr 2007 15:52:59 -0700, "ULB" <ultralightbackpacker@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> I have heard some horror stories in other groups regarding
>10w40 with too many polmers being added which makes the oil break down
>quicker. I don't buy into it. Just change your oil at regular
>intervals and you should be fine even if you do run 10w40.
The stories are correct. This problem can be really bad with
conventional 10w40 in a engine especailly if you do not change it very
often. (GM had some much truouble with the VI in 10w40 cooking out in
piston rings in 80's and cause them to stick you will not longer find
10w40 as a approved oil for them since that time. use 10w30 or 15w40
but stay away from 10w40 conventional oil.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
> I have heard some horror stories in other groups regarding
>10w40 with too many polmers being added which makes the oil break down
>quicker. I don't buy into it. Just change your oil at regular
>intervals and you should be fine even if you do run 10w40.
The stories are correct. This problem can be really bad with
conventional 10w40 in a engine especailly if you do not change it very
often. (GM had some much truouble with the VI in 10w40 cooking out in
piston rings in 80's and cause them to stick you will not longer find
10w40 as a approved oil for them since that time. use 10w30 or 15w40
but stay away from 10w40 conventional oil.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
04-03-2007, 04:07 PM
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Re: 10W30 vs 10W40 in a 2002 TJ
I am currently using Redline 10W30 which costs me about £50 every six
months so I was looking for a cheaper alternative as I only do about
1500 - 2000 miles every 6 months. Unfortunately Redline appears to
be the only 10W30 I can find in the UK as a full synthetic. Looking
at the Jeep Workshop manual 10W30 is the prefered and from the chart
5W30 has a lot lower top end temperature than 10W30 which is why I was
concerned whether to use it, I can find loads of 5W30 fully synthetics
but was just considering the 10W40 as it had a hotter top end.
Cheers
Nick
months so I was looking for a cheaper alternative as I only do about
1500 - 2000 miles every 6 months. Unfortunately Redline appears to
be the only 10W30 I can find in the UK as a full synthetic. Looking
at the Jeep Workshop manual 10W30 is the prefered and from the chart
5W30 has a lot lower top end temperature than 10W30 which is why I was
concerned whether to use it, I can find loads of 5W30 fully synthetics
but was just considering the 10W40 as it had a hotter top end.
Cheers
Nick
04-03-2007, 04:07 PM
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Re: 10W30 vs 10W40 in a 2002 TJ
I am currently using Redline 10W30 which costs me about £50 every six
months so I was looking for a cheaper alternative as I only do about
1500 - 2000 miles every 6 months. Unfortunately Redline appears to
be the only 10W30 I can find in the UK as a full synthetic. Looking
at the Jeep Workshop manual 10W30 is the prefered and from the chart
5W30 has a lot lower top end temperature than 10W30 which is why I was
concerned whether to use it, I can find loads of 5W30 fully synthetics
but was just considering the 10W40 as it had a hotter top end.
Cheers
Nick
months so I was looking for a cheaper alternative as I only do about
1500 - 2000 miles every 6 months. Unfortunately Redline appears to
be the only 10W30 I can find in the UK as a full synthetic. Looking
at the Jeep Workshop manual 10W30 is the prefered and from the chart
5W30 has a lot lower top end temperature than 10W30 which is why I was
concerned whether to use it, I can find loads of 5W30 fully synthetics
but was just considering the 10W40 as it had a hotter top end.
Cheers
Nick
04-03-2007, 04:07 PM
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Re: 10W30 vs 10W40 in a 2002 TJ
I am currently using Redline 10W30 which costs me about £50 every six
months so I was looking for a cheaper alternative as I only do about
1500 - 2000 miles every 6 months. Unfortunately Redline appears to
be the only 10W30 I can find in the UK as a full synthetic. Looking
at the Jeep Workshop manual 10W30 is the prefered and from the chart
5W30 has a lot lower top end temperature than 10W30 which is why I was
concerned whether to use it, I can find loads of 5W30 fully synthetics
but was just considering the 10W40 as it had a hotter top end.
Cheers
Nick
months so I was looking for a cheaper alternative as I only do about
1500 - 2000 miles every 6 months. Unfortunately Redline appears to
be the only 10W30 I can find in the UK as a full synthetic. Looking
at the Jeep Workshop manual 10W30 is the prefered and from the chart
5W30 has a lot lower top end temperature than 10W30 which is why I was
concerned whether to use it, I can find loads of 5W30 fully synthetics
but was just considering the 10W40 as it had a hotter top end.
Cheers
Nick
04-03-2007, 07:24 PM
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Re: 10W30 vs 10W40 in a 2002 TJ
Nick wrote:
> I am currently using Redline 10W30 which costs me about £50 every six
> months so I was looking for a cheaper alternative as I only do about
> 1500 - 2000 miles every 6 months. Unfortunately Redline appears to
> be the only 10W30 I can find in the UK as a full synthetic. Looking
> at the Jeep Workshop manual 10W30 is the prefered and from the chart
> 5W30 has a lot lower top end temperature than 10W30 which is why I was
> concerned whether to use it, I can find loads of 5W30 fully synthetics
> but was just considering the 10W40 as it had a hotter top end.
5W30 is 30 at operating temperature and flows easly at freezing and below.
It is compatible with modern vehicles.
http://www.mobil.com/Canada-English/...il_1_5W-30.asp
For a synthetic, your changing oil way too often. 5000-6000 miles would
be more reasonable. Some makers even claim 10,000 on full synthetic but
I think that's way too long. Personally, I change the ZJs oil at 6000.
But every year I use one of the dealership coupons for a cheap oil change.
What I do is put in seafoam from NAPA, drive it from work to the dealer,
have them change the oil, drive it for a week, then drain the dino and
put in synthetic.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> I am currently using Redline 10W30 which costs me about £50 every six
> months so I was looking for a cheaper alternative as I only do about
> 1500 - 2000 miles every 6 months. Unfortunately Redline appears to
> be the only 10W30 I can find in the UK as a full synthetic. Looking
> at the Jeep Workshop manual 10W30 is the prefered and from the chart
> 5W30 has a lot lower top end temperature than 10W30 which is why I was
> concerned whether to use it, I can find loads of 5W30 fully synthetics
> but was just considering the 10W40 as it had a hotter top end.
5W30 is 30 at operating temperature and flows easly at freezing and below.
It is compatible with modern vehicles.
http://www.mobil.com/Canada-English/...il_1_5W-30.asp
For a synthetic, your changing oil way too often. 5000-6000 miles would
be more reasonable. Some makers even claim 10,000 on full synthetic but
I think that's way too long. Personally, I change the ZJs oil at 6000.
But every year I use one of the dealership coupons for a cheap oil change.
What I do is put in seafoam from NAPA, drive it from work to the dealer,
have them change the oil, drive it for a week, then drain the dino and
put in synthetic.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
04-03-2007, 07:24 PM
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Re: 10W30 vs 10W40 in a 2002 TJ
Nick wrote:
> I am currently using Redline 10W30 which costs me about £50 every six
> months so I was looking for a cheaper alternative as I only do about
> 1500 - 2000 miles every 6 months. Unfortunately Redline appears to
> be the only 10W30 I can find in the UK as a full synthetic. Looking
> at the Jeep Workshop manual 10W30 is the prefered and from the chart
> 5W30 has a lot lower top end temperature than 10W30 which is why I was
> concerned whether to use it, I can find loads of 5W30 fully synthetics
> but was just considering the 10W40 as it had a hotter top end.
5W30 is 30 at operating temperature and flows easly at freezing and below.
It is compatible with modern vehicles.
http://www.mobil.com/Canada-English/...il_1_5W-30.asp
For a synthetic, your changing oil way too often. 5000-6000 miles would
be more reasonable. Some makers even claim 10,000 on full synthetic but
I think that's way too long. Personally, I change the ZJs oil at 6000.
But every year I use one of the dealership coupons for a cheap oil change.
What I do is put in seafoam from NAPA, drive it from work to the dealer,
have them change the oil, drive it for a week, then drain the dino and
put in synthetic.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> I am currently using Redline 10W30 which costs me about £50 every six
> months so I was looking for a cheaper alternative as I only do about
> 1500 - 2000 miles every 6 months. Unfortunately Redline appears to
> be the only 10W30 I can find in the UK as a full synthetic. Looking
> at the Jeep Workshop manual 10W30 is the prefered and from the chart
> 5W30 has a lot lower top end temperature than 10W30 which is why I was
> concerned whether to use it, I can find loads of 5W30 fully synthetics
> but was just considering the 10W40 as it had a hotter top end.
5W30 is 30 at operating temperature and flows easly at freezing and below.
It is compatible with modern vehicles.
http://www.mobil.com/Canada-English/...il_1_5W-30.asp
For a synthetic, your changing oil way too often. 5000-6000 miles would
be more reasonable. Some makers even claim 10,000 on full synthetic but
I think that's way too long. Personally, I change the ZJs oil at 6000.
But every year I use one of the dealership coupons for a cheap oil change.
What I do is put in seafoam from NAPA, drive it from work to the dealer,
have them change the oil, drive it for a week, then drain the dino and
put in synthetic.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
04-03-2007, 07:24 PM
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Re: 10W30 vs 10W40 in a 2002 TJ
Nick wrote:
> I am currently using Redline 10W30 which costs me about £50 every six
> months so I was looking for a cheaper alternative as I only do about
> 1500 - 2000 miles every 6 months. Unfortunately Redline appears to
> be the only 10W30 I can find in the UK as a full synthetic. Looking
> at the Jeep Workshop manual 10W30 is the prefered and from the chart
> 5W30 has a lot lower top end temperature than 10W30 which is why I was
> concerned whether to use it, I can find loads of 5W30 fully synthetics
> but was just considering the 10W40 as it had a hotter top end.
5W30 is 30 at operating temperature and flows easly at freezing and below.
It is compatible with modern vehicles.
http://www.mobil.com/Canada-English/...il_1_5W-30.asp
For a synthetic, your changing oil way too often. 5000-6000 miles would
be more reasonable. Some makers even claim 10,000 on full synthetic but
I think that's way too long. Personally, I change the ZJs oil at 6000.
But every year I use one of the dealership coupons for a cheap oil change.
What I do is put in seafoam from NAPA, drive it from work to the dealer,
have them change the oil, drive it for a week, then drain the dino and
put in synthetic.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> I am currently using Redline 10W30 which costs me about £50 every six
> months so I was looking for a cheaper alternative as I only do about
> 1500 - 2000 miles every 6 months. Unfortunately Redline appears to
> be the only 10W30 I can find in the UK as a full synthetic. Looking
> at the Jeep Workshop manual 10W30 is the prefered and from the chart
> 5W30 has a lot lower top end temperature than 10W30 which is why I was
> concerned whether to use it, I can find loads of 5W30 fully synthetics
> but was just considering the 10W40 as it had a hotter top end.
5W30 is 30 at operating temperature and flows easly at freezing and below.
It is compatible with modern vehicles.
http://www.mobil.com/Canada-English/...il_1_5W-30.asp
For a synthetic, your changing oil way too often. 5000-6000 miles would
be more reasonable. Some makers even claim 10,000 on full synthetic but
I think that's way too long. Personally, I change the ZJs oil at 6000.
But every year I use one of the dealership coupons for a cheap oil change.
What I do is put in seafoam from NAPA, drive it from work to the dealer,
have them change the oil, drive it for a week, then drain the dino and
put in synthetic.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
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