04 Jeep Liberty.
#81
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
Maybe it is stock with the sway bar disconnected, there's less than
a foot difference between the compressed and the extended wheels.
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peter wrote:
>
> Not a chance. I was just trying to point out that it wasn't a stock versus
> stock comparison we were seeing. No doubt even a stock XJ would spank a KJ
> in terms of suspension articulation, so why not use a stock XJ in the
> comparison?
>
> /Peter
a foot difference between the compressed and the extended wheels.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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peter wrote:
>
> Not a chance. I was just trying to point out that it wasn't a stock versus
> stock comparison we were seeing. No doubt even a stock XJ would spank a KJ
> in terms of suspension articulation, so why not use a stock XJ in the
> comparison?
>
> /Peter
#82
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
The vehicle was in 4-wheel drive. Near the end of the video, you can see the
right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
Tom
"Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
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> Bill,
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > And then you wake up: http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
>
> If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
Also
> if the driver had driven a sensible line like he ended up doing in the end
> it would have been fine.
>
> A bad driver can have the best vehicle and still get stuck, but I'm sure
you
> will have your own opinion on this. But then again I drive a diesel
Liberty
> (Cherokee) in the UK so what would I know.
>
> And yes I haven't listed my propper e-mail address.
>
> Jason
>
>
right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
Tom
"Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
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> Bill,
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > And then you wake up: http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
>
> If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
Also
> if the driver had driven a sensible line like he ended up doing in the end
> it would have been fine.
>
> A bad driver can have the best vehicle and still get stuck, but I'm sure
you
> will have your own opinion on this. But then again I drive a diesel
Liberty
> (Cherokee) in the UK so what would I know.
>
> And yes I haven't listed my propper e-mail address.
>
> Jason
>
>
#83
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
The vehicle was in 4-wheel drive. Near the end of the video, you can see the
right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
Tom
"Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
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> Bill,
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > And then you wake up: http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
>
> If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
Also
> if the driver had driven a sensible line like he ended up doing in the end
> it would have been fine.
>
> A bad driver can have the best vehicle and still get stuck, but I'm sure
you
> will have your own opinion on this. But then again I drive a diesel
Liberty
> (Cherokee) in the UK so what would I know.
>
> And yes I haven't listed my propper e-mail address.
>
> Jason
>
>
right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
Tom
"Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
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> Bill,
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > And then you wake up: http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
>
> If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
Also
> if the driver had driven a sensible line like he ended up doing in the end
> it would have been fine.
>
> A bad driver can have the best vehicle and still get stuck, but I'm sure
you
> will have your own opinion on this. But then again I drive a diesel
Liberty
> (Cherokee) in the UK so what would I know.
>
> And yes I haven't listed my propper e-mail address.
>
> Jason
>
>
#84
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
The vehicle was in 4-wheel drive. Near the end of the video, you can see the
right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
Tom
"Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
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> Bill,
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > And then you wake up: http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
>
> If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
Also
> if the driver had driven a sensible line like he ended up doing in the end
> it would have been fine.
>
> A bad driver can have the best vehicle and still get stuck, but I'm sure
you
> will have your own opinion on this. But then again I drive a diesel
Liberty
> (Cherokee) in the UK so what would I know.
>
> And yes I haven't listed my propper e-mail address.
>
> Jason
>
>
right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
Tom
"Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
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> Bill,
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > And then you wake up: http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
>
> If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
Also
> if the driver had driven a sensible line like he ended up doing in the end
> it would have been fine.
>
> A bad driver can have the best vehicle and still get stuck, but I'm sure
you
> will have your own opinion on this. But then again I drive a diesel
Liberty
> (Cherokee) in the UK so what would I know.
>
> And yes I haven't listed my propper e-mail address.
>
> Jason
>
>
#85
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
The vehicle was in 4-wheel drive. Near the end of the video, you can see the
right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
Tom
"Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
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> Bill,
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > And then you wake up: http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
>
> If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
Also
> if the driver had driven a sensible line like he ended up doing in the end
> it would have been fine.
>
> A bad driver can have the best vehicle and still get stuck, but I'm sure
you
> will have your own opinion on this. But then again I drive a diesel
Liberty
> (Cherokee) in the UK so what would I know.
>
> And yes I haven't listed my propper e-mail address.
>
> Jason
>
>
right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
Tom
"Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
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> Bill,
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > And then you wake up: http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
>
> If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
Also
> if the driver had driven a sensible line like he ended up doing in the end
> it would have been fine.
>
> A bad driver can have the best vehicle and still get stuck, but I'm sure
you
> will have your own opinion on this. But then again I drive a diesel
Liberty
> (Cherokee) in the UK so what would I know.
>
> And yes I haven't listed my propper e-mail address.
>
> Jason
>
>
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
Oops, it was near the beginning of the video.
Tom
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
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> The vehicle was in 4-wheel drive. Near the end of the video, you can see
the
> right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
> news:ccu5nm$4n5@netnews.proxy.lucent.com...
> > Bill,
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > > And then you wake up:
http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
> >
> > If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
> Also
Tom
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:N96dnZW0j-xhoW7dRVn-hg@gbronline.com...
> The vehicle was in 4-wheel drive. Near the end of the video, you can see
the
> right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
> news:ccu5nm$4n5@netnews.proxy.lucent.com...
> > Bill,
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > > And then you wake up:
http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
> >
> > If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
> Also
#87
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
Oops, it was near the beginning of the video.
Tom
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
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> The vehicle was in 4-wheel drive. Near the end of the video, you can see
the
> right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
> news:ccu5nm$4n5@netnews.proxy.lucent.com...
> > Bill,
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > > And then you wake up:
http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
> >
> > If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
> Also
Tom
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:N96dnZW0j-xhoW7dRVn-hg@gbronline.com...
> The vehicle was in 4-wheel drive. Near the end of the video, you can see
the
> right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
> news:ccu5nm$4n5@netnews.proxy.lucent.com...
> > Bill,
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > > And then you wake up:
http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
> >
> > If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
> Also
#88
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
Oops, it was near the beginning of the video.
Tom
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
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> The vehicle was in 4-wheel drive. Near the end of the video, you can see
the
> right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
> news:ccu5nm$4n5@netnews.proxy.lucent.com...
> > Bill,
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > > And then you wake up:
http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
> >
> > If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
> Also
Tom
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:N96dnZW0j-xhoW7dRVn-hg@gbronline.com...
> The vehicle was in 4-wheel drive. Near the end of the video, you can see
the
> right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
> news:ccu5nm$4n5@netnews.proxy.lucent.com...
> > Bill,
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > > And then you wake up:
http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
> >
> > If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
> Also
#89
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
Oops, it was near the beginning of the video.
Tom
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:N96dnZW0j-xhoW7dRVn-hg@gbronline.com...
> The vehicle was in 4-wheel drive. Near the end of the video, you can see
the
> right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
> news:ccu5nm$4n5@netnews.proxy.lucent.com...
> > Bill,
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > > And then you wake up:
http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
> >
> > If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
> Also
Tom
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:N96dnZW0j-xhoW7dRVn-hg@gbronline.com...
> The vehicle was in 4-wheel drive. Near the end of the video, you can see
the
> right front wheel spin a fraction of a turn, then catch.
>
> Tom
>
> "Jason Ross" <someone@some.com> wrote in message
> news:ccu5nm$4n5@netnews.proxy.lucent.com...
> > Bill,
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:40F09381.D1680BC9@***.net...
> > > And then you wake up:
http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
> >
> > If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
> Also
#90
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
I believe that it is in full time 4WD only and not part time 4WD. I say this
because there was not enough wheelspin on the front wheels which looked
firmly planted to me, if the centre diff was locked like it should have been
there should have been more action from the front end. I know real Jeeps
don't have full time 4WD but please have a closer look.
You guy's really should drive a KJ you would be surprised. I bought mine
because I do a lot of motorway driving but it has proven itself to be very
capable in the limited amount of off-road work I've done in it so far.
I have always slammed IFS 4WDrives but for a lot of people a KJ will do all
they want plus some, it all comes down to personal choice.
Jason
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> Jason,
> It was a well maintained dirt road, where water was directed
> diagonally across the road to prevent wash out. Denial is not just a
> river in Egypt, look at the video again and you'll see the left front
> rock finally get down to bottom of the six inch deep culvert and throw a
> little dirt: http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jason Ross wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> > If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
Also
> > if the driver had driven a sensible line like he ended up doing in the
end
> > it would have been fine.
> >
> > A bad driver can have the best vehicle and still get stuck, but I'm sure
you
> > will have your own opinion on this. But then again I drive a diesel
Liberty
> > (Cherokee) in the UK so what would I know.
> >
> > And yes I haven't listed my propper e-mail address.
> >
> > Jason
because there was not enough wheelspin on the front wheels which looked
firmly planted to me, if the centre diff was locked like it should have been
there should have been more action from the front end. I know real Jeeps
don't have full time 4WD but please have a closer look.
You guy's really should drive a KJ you would be surprised. I bought mine
because I do a lot of motorway driving but it has proven itself to be very
capable in the limited amount of off-road work I've done in it so far.
I have always slammed IFS 4WDrives but for a lot of people a KJ will do all
they want plus some, it all comes down to personal choice.
Jason
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40F2EEBC.242282AC@***.net...
> Jason,
> It was a well maintained dirt road, where water was directed
> diagonally across the road to prevent wash out. Denial is not just a
> river in Egypt, look at the video again and you'll see the left front
> rock finally get down to bottom of the six inch deep culvert and throw a
> little dirt: http://www.----------.com/libbyTraction.mpeg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jason Ross wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> > If the vehicle was in 4WD it would have easily got past this obstacle.
Also
> > if the driver had driven a sensible line like he ended up doing in the
end
> > it would have been fine.
> >
> > A bad driver can have the best vehicle and still get stuck, but I'm sure
you
> > will have your own opinion on this. But then again I drive a diesel
Liberty
> > (Cherokee) in the UK so what would I know.
> >
> > And yes I haven't listed my propper e-mail address.
> >
> > Jason