04 Jeep Liberty.
#111
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
The folks in Auburn Hills are very aware of the fact that the Wrangler is
held in such regard among the off-road community. I view the KJ and the
upcoming changes to the Grand as big money makers for them so they can still
build the Wrangler as it should be built.
That said, the Unlimted Rubicon may be in my driveway late this year while I
can still get it....
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:4GcJc.11772$9I.9948@okepread02...
> THAT'S when I see major protests from every online jeeping forum being
> organized... Who cares about what happened with the KJ. They probably
> needed the sales and money anyways.
> Nick
>
> >Next to go will be the TJ replacement.
>
>
held in such regard among the off-road community. I view the KJ and the
upcoming changes to the Grand as big money makers for them so they can still
build the Wrangler as it should be built.
That said, the Unlimted Rubicon may be in my driveway late this year while I
can still get it....
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:4GcJc.11772$9I.9948@okepread02...
> THAT'S when I see major protests from every online jeeping forum being
> organized... Who cares about what happened with the KJ. They probably
> needed the sales and money anyways.
> Nick
>
> >Next to go will be the TJ replacement.
>
>
#112
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
The folks in Auburn Hills are very aware of the fact that the Wrangler is
held in such regard among the off-road community. I view the KJ and the
upcoming changes to the Grand as big money makers for them so they can still
build the Wrangler as it should be built.
That said, the Unlimted Rubicon may be in my driveway late this year while I
can still get it....
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:4GcJc.11772$9I.9948@okepread02...
> THAT'S when I see major protests from every online jeeping forum being
> organized... Who cares about what happened with the KJ. They probably
> needed the sales and money anyways.
> Nick
>
> >Next to go will be the TJ replacement.
>
>
held in such regard among the off-road community. I view the KJ and the
upcoming changes to the Grand as big money makers for them so they can still
build the Wrangler as it should be built.
That said, the Unlimted Rubicon may be in my driveway late this year while I
can still get it....
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:4GcJc.11772$9I.9948@okepread02...
> THAT'S when I see major protests from every online jeeping forum being
> organized... Who cares about what happened with the KJ. They probably
> needed the sales and money anyways.
> Nick
>
> >Next to go will be the TJ replacement.
>
>
#113
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
The folks in Auburn Hills are very aware of the fact that the Wrangler is
held in such regard among the off-road community. I view the KJ and the
upcoming changes to the Grand as big money makers for them so they can still
build the Wrangler as it should be built.
That said, the Unlimted Rubicon may be in my driveway late this year while I
can still get it....
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:4GcJc.11772$9I.9948@okepread02...
> THAT'S when I see major protests from every online jeeping forum being
> organized... Who cares about what happened with the KJ. They probably
> needed the sales and money anyways.
> Nick
>
> >Next to go will be the TJ replacement.
>
>
held in such regard among the off-road community. I view the KJ and the
upcoming changes to the Grand as big money makers for them so they can still
build the Wrangler as it should be built.
That said, the Unlimted Rubicon may be in my driveway late this year while I
can still get it....
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:4GcJc.11772$9I.9948@okepread02...
> THAT'S when I see major protests from every online jeeping forum being
> organized... Who cares about what happened with the KJ. They probably
> needed the sales and money anyways.
> Nick
>
> >Next to go will be the TJ replacement.
>
>
#114
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
Horses for courses, guys! If you want a full tilt off road machine, the
Liberty ain't it. But your off road monster isn't going to have the
comfortable ride, nice looks, and amenities the Liberty has.
I've been driving SUVS for 20+ years (Bronco, Bronco II, Blazer,
Suburban, Expedition, Explorer, and a wide range of farm trucks), and
couldn't be happier with the Liberty for my use. 85% of my driving is on
the road, and for that, the Liberty couldn't be better. Seats 4 adults
comfortably, has plenty of power, a short turning radius, great ride,
efficient A/C, good stereo, good mileage (for an SUV)and its reliable.
For the other 15% of my driving (muddy/bumpy field roads, gravel roads,
and icy pavement), it has enough clearance and 4WD capacity to get me to
and from anywhere I reasonably need to go. I don't go mudding for fun, I
go mudding because I need to be on the other side of the mud. Basically,
if the Libby won't go there I ought to be in a farm truck, on a tractor,
or on foot. And while I only need to drive on ice a few times each year,
the 4WD is essential for those few times.
Economically, the Liberty is a great deal. When I was ready to trade my
Explorer in, I looked at the Eddie Bauer Explorer and the Libery Limited
with similar equipment. By giving up a handfull of bells and whistles
(digital thermostat, numeric code door locks, and automatic headlight
dimmer switch), I saved close to $10,000, and got a vehicle that gives
me 2-5 mpg better mileage.
So I'd say that for anyone in the market for a comfortable small/medium
SUV for every day use and the occasional off road foray, its a great
choice.
Liberty ain't it. But your off road monster isn't going to have the
comfortable ride, nice looks, and amenities the Liberty has.
I've been driving SUVS for 20+ years (Bronco, Bronco II, Blazer,
Suburban, Expedition, Explorer, and a wide range of farm trucks), and
couldn't be happier with the Liberty for my use. 85% of my driving is on
the road, and for that, the Liberty couldn't be better. Seats 4 adults
comfortably, has plenty of power, a short turning radius, great ride,
efficient A/C, good stereo, good mileage (for an SUV)and its reliable.
For the other 15% of my driving (muddy/bumpy field roads, gravel roads,
and icy pavement), it has enough clearance and 4WD capacity to get me to
and from anywhere I reasonably need to go. I don't go mudding for fun, I
go mudding because I need to be on the other side of the mud. Basically,
if the Libby won't go there I ought to be in a farm truck, on a tractor,
or on foot. And while I only need to drive on ice a few times each year,
the 4WD is essential for those few times.
Economically, the Liberty is a great deal. When I was ready to trade my
Explorer in, I looked at the Eddie Bauer Explorer and the Libery Limited
with similar equipment. By giving up a handfull of bells and whistles
(digital thermostat, numeric code door locks, and automatic headlight
dimmer switch), I saved close to $10,000, and got a vehicle that gives
me 2-5 mpg better mileage.
So I'd say that for anyone in the market for a comfortable small/medium
SUV for every day use and the occasional off road foray, its a great
choice.
#115
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
Horses for courses, guys! If you want a full tilt off road machine, the
Liberty ain't it. But your off road monster isn't going to have the
comfortable ride, nice looks, and amenities the Liberty has.
I've been driving SUVS for 20+ years (Bronco, Bronco II, Blazer,
Suburban, Expedition, Explorer, and a wide range of farm trucks), and
couldn't be happier with the Liberty for my use. 85% of my driving is on
the road, and for that, the Liberty couldn't be better. Seats 4 adults
comfortably, has plenty of power, a short turning radius, great ride,
efficient A/C, good stereo, good mileage (for an SUV)and its reliable.
For the other 15% of my driving (muddy/bumpy field roads, gravel roads,
and icy pavement), it has enough clearance and 4WD capacity to get me to
and from anywhere I reasonably need to go. I don't go mudding for fun, I
go mudding because I need to be on the other side of the mud. Basically,
if the Libby won't go there I ought to be in a farm truck, on a tractor,
or on foot. And while I only need to drive on ice a few times each year,
the 4WD is essential for those few times.
Economically, the Liberty is a great deal. When I was ready to trade my
Explorer in, I looked at the Eddie Bauer Explorer and the Libery Limited
with similar equipment. By giving up a handfull of bells and whistles
(digital thermostat, numeric code door locks, and automatic headlight
dimmer switch), I saved close to $10,000, and got a vehicle that gives
me 2-5 mpg better mileage.
So I'd say that for anyone in the market for a comfortable small/medium
SUV for every day use and the occasional off road foray, its a great
choice.
Liberty ain't it. But your off road monster isn't going to have the
comfortable ride, nice looks, and amenities the Liberty has.
I've been driving SUVS for 20+ years (Bronco, Bronco II, Blazer,
Suburban, Expedition, Explorer, and a wide range of farm trucks), and
couldn't be happier with the Liberty for my use. 85% of my driving is on
the road, and for that, the Liberty couldn't be better. Seats 4 adults
comfortably, has plenty of power, a short turning radius, great ride,
efficient A/C, good stereo, good mileage (for an SUV)and its reliable.
For the other 15% of my driving (muddy/bumpy field roads, gravel roads,
and icy pavement), it has enough clearance and 4WD capacity to get me to
and from anywhere I reasonably need to go. I don't go mudding for fun, I
go mudding because I need to be on the other side of the mud. Basically,
if the Libby won't go there I ought to be in a farm truck, on a tractor,
or on foot. And while I only need to drive on ice a few times each year,
the 4WD is essential for those few times.
Economically, the Liberty is a great deal. When I was ready to trade my
Explorer in, I looked at the Eddie Bauer Explorer and the Libery Limited
with similar equipment. By giving up a handfull of bells and whistles
(digital thermostat, numeric code door locks, and automatic headlight
dimmer switch), I saved close to $10,000, and got a vehicle that gives
me 2-5 mpg better mileage.
So I'd say that for anyone in the market for a comfortable small/medium
SUV for every day use and the occasional off road foray, its a great
choice.
#116
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Posts: n/a
Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
Horses for courses, guys! If you want a full tilt off road machine, the
Liberty ain't it. But your off road monster isn't going to have the
comfortable ride, nice looks, and amenities the Liberty has.
I've been driving SUVS for 20+ years (Bronco, Bronco II, Blazer,
Suburban, Expedition, Explorer, and a wide range of farm trucks), and
couldn't be happier with the Liberty for my use. 85% of my driving is on
the road, and for that, the Liberty couldn't be better. Seats 4 adults
comfortably, has plenty of power, a short turning radius, great ride,
efficient A/C, good stereo, good mileage (for an SUV)and its reliable.
For the other 15% of my driving (muddy/bumpy field roads, gravel roads,
and icy pavement), it has enough clearance and 4WD capacity to get me to
and from anywhere I reasonably need to go. I don't go mudding for fun, I
go mudding because I need to be on the other side of the mud. Basically,
if the Libby won't go there I ought to be in a farm truck, on a tractor,
or on foot. And while I only need to drive on ice a few times each year,
the 4WD is essential for those few times.
Economically, the Liberty is a great deal. When I was ready to trade my
Explorer in, I looked at the Eddie Bauer Explorer and the Libery Limited
with similar equipment. By giving up a handfull of bells and whistles
(digital thermostat, numeric code door locks, and automatic headlight
dimmer switch), I saved close to $10,000, and got a vehicle that gives
me 2-5 mpg better mileage.
So I'd say that for anyone in the market for a comfortable small/medium
SUV for every day use and the occasional off road foray, its a great
choice.
Liberty ain't it. But your off road monster isn't going to have the
comfortable ride, nice looks, and amenities the Liberty has.
I've been driving SUVS for 20+ years (Bronco, Bronco II, Blazer,
Suburban, Expedition, Explorer, and a wide range of farm trucks), and
couldn't be happier with the Liberty for my use. 85% of my driving is on
the road, and for that, the Liberty couldn't be better. Seats 4 adults
comfortably, has plenty of power, a short turning radius, great ride,
efficient A/C, good stereo, good mileage (for an SUV)and its reliable.
For the other 15% of my driving (muddy/bumpy field roads, gravel roads,
and icy pavement), it has enough clearance and 4WD capacity to get me to
and from anywhere I reasonably need to go. I don't go mudding for fun, I
go mudding because I need to be on the other side of the mud. Basically,
if the Libby won't go there I ought to be in a farm truck, on a tractor,
or on foot. And while I only need to drive on ice a few times each year,
the 4WD is essential for those few times.
Economically, the Liberty is a great deal. When I was ready to trade my
Explorer in, I looked at the Eddie Bauer Explorer and the Libery Limited
with similar equipment. By giving up a handfull of bells and whistles
(digital thermostat, numeric code door locks, and automatic headlight
dimmer switch), I saved close to $10,000, and got a vehicle that gives
me 2-5 mpg better mileage.
So I'd say that for anyone in the market for a comfortable small/medium
SUV for every day use and the occasional off road foray, its a great
choice.
#117
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
Horses for courses, guys! If you want a full tilt off road machine, the
Liberty ain't it. But your off road monster isn't going to have the
comfortable ride, nice looks, and amenities the Liberty has.
I've been driving SUVS for 20+ years (Bronco, Bronco II, Blazer,
Suburban, Expedition, Explorer, and a wide range of farm trucks), and
couldn't be happier with the Liberty for my use. 85% of my driving is on
the road, and for that, the Liberty couldn't be better. Seats 4 adults
comfortably, has plenty of power, a short turning radius, great ride,
efficient A/C, good stereo, good mileage (for an SUV)and its reliable.
For the other 15% of my driving (muddy/bumpy field roads, gravel roads,
and icy pavement), it has enough clearance and 4WD capacity to get me to
and from anywhere I reasonably need to go. I don't go mudding for fun, I
go mudding because I need to be on the other side of the mud. Basically,
if the Libby won't go there I ought to be in a farm truck, on a tractor,
or on foot. And while I only need to drive on ice a few times each year,
the 4WD is essential for those few times.
Economically, the Liberty is a great deal. When I was ready to trade my
Explorer in, I looked at the Eddie Bauer Explorer and the Libery Limited
with similar equipment. By giving up a handfull of bells and whistles
(digital thermostat, numeric code door locks, and automatic headlight
dimmer switch), I saved close to $10,000, and got a vehicle that gives
me 2-5 mpg better mileage.
So I'd say that for anyone in the market for a comfortable small/medium
SUV for every day use and the occasional off road foray, its a great
choice.
Liberty ain't it. But your off road monster isn't going to have the
comfortable ride, nice looks, and amenities the Liberty has.
I've been driving SUVS for 20+ years (Bronco, Bronco II, Blazer,
Suburban, Expedition, Explorer, and a wide range of farm trucks), and
couldn't be happier with the Liberty for my use. 85% of my driving is on
the road, and for that, the Liberty couldn't be better. Seats 4 adults
comfortably, has plenty of power, a short turning radius, great ride,
efficient A/C, good stereo, good mileage (for an SUV)and its reliable.
For the other 15% of my driving (muddy/bumpy field roads, gravel roads,
and icy pavement), it has enough clearance and 4WD capacity to get me to
and from anywhere I reasonably need to go. I don't go mudding for fun, I
go mudding because I need to be on the other side of the mud. Basically,
if the Libby won't go there I ought to be in a farm truck, on a tractor,
or on foot. And while I only need to drive on ice a few times each year,
the 4WD is essential for those few times.
Economically, the Liberty is a great deal. When I was ready to trade my
Explorer in, I looked at the Eddie Bauer Explorer and the Libery Limited
with similar equipment. By giving up a handfull of bells and whistles
(digital thermostat, numeric code door locks, and automatic headlight
dimmer switch), I saved close to $10,000, and got a vehicle that gives
me 2-5 mpg better mileage.
So I'd say that for anyone in the market for a comfortable small/medium
SUV for every day use and the occasional off road foray, its a great
choice.
#118
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
Matt, two wheel drive pick ups are driving that country type road every
day, especially here in Southern California, the Coyotes running the
boarder.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Nope. You can't see the front left wheel well enough to be sure it was
> firmly planted. But, you can tell from the cloud of dust that was generated
> fron the left front of the vehicle that when the right rear was spinning,
> the left front was spinning as well. That's what happens in those situations
> with open diffs.
>
> I'm not saying a Liberty isn't somewhat capable, but it has its
> shortcomings. The one time I saw one off-road, it got hi-centered on a mound
> of dirt that stock TJ's were clearing.
day, especially here in Southern California, the Coyotes running the
boarder.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Nope. You can't see the front left wheel well enough to be sure it was
> firmly planted. But, you can tell from the cloud of dust that was generated
> fron the left front of the vehicle that when the right rear was spinning,
> the left front was spinning as well. That's what happens in those situations
> with open diffs.
>
> I'm not saying a Liberty isn't somewhat capable, but it has its
> shortcomings. The one time I saw one off-road, it got hi-centered on a mound
> of dirt that stock TJ's were clearing.
#119
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
Matt, two wheel drive pick ups are driving that country type road every
day, especially here in Southern California, the Coyotes running the
boarder.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Nope. You can't see the front left wheel well enough to be sure it was
> firmly planted. But, you can tell from the cloud of dust that was generated
> fron the left front of the vehicle that when the right rear was spinning,
> the left front was spinning as well. That's what happens in those situations
> with open diffs.
>
> I'm not saying a Liberty isn't somewhat capable, but it has its
> shortcomings. The one time I saw one off-road, it got hi-centered on a mound
> of dirt that stock TJ's were clearing.
day, especially here in Southern California, the Coyotes running the
boarder.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Nope. You can't see the front left wheel well enough to be sure it was
> firmly planted. But, you can tell from the cloud of dust that was generated
> fron the left front of the vehicle that when the right rear was spinning,
> the left front was spinning as well. That's what happens in those situations
> with open diffs.
>
> I'm not saying a Liberty isn't somewhat capable, but it has its
> shortcomings. The one time I saw one off-road, it got hi-centered on a mound
> of dirt that stock TJ's were clearing.
#120
Guest
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Re: 04 Jeep Liberty.
Matt, two wheel drive pick ups are driving that country type road every
day, especially here in Southern California, the Coyotes running the
boarder.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Nope. You can't see the front left wheel well enough to be sure it was
> firmly planted. But, you can tell from the cloud of dust that was generated
> fron the left front of the vehicle that when the right rear was spinning,
> the left front was spinning as well. That's what happens in those situations
> with open diffs.
>
> I'm not saying a Liberty isn't somewhat capable, but it has its
> shortcomings. The one time I saw one off-road, it got hi-centered on a mound
> of dirt that stock TJ's were clearing.
day, especially here in Southern California, the Coyotes running the
boarder.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Nope. You can't see the front left wheel well enough to be sure it was
> firmly planted. But, you can tell from the cloud of dust that was generated
> fron the left front of the vehicle that when the right rear was spinning,
> the left front was spinning as well. That's what happens in those situations
> with open diffs.
>
> I'm not saying a Liberty isn't somewhat capable, but it has its
> shortcomings. The one time I saw one off-road, it got hi-centered on a mound
> of dirt that stock TJ's were clearing.