~~~ Say hello to my little friend!!! ~~~
#71
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Re: ~~~ Say hello to my little friend!!! ~~~
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:01:29 -0400, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
shared the following:
>SWEEET!!! OOHH, I am so freaking jealous! Looks like you got your self a
>real honey! I'm sure you'll enjoy every mile!
>:-)
>
>--
>Jim
I am LOVING it. Today I ate lunch at my desk really quick so I'd have
time during my lunch hour to take a drive... and then took off for
some close-by trails. Fortunately I spend most of my time at work
away from others so they won't have to see my mud-caked shirt and
pants. heh heh. WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
Where I was going over some kinda rough stuff and started to teeter a
little bit...couldn't get traction...left rear wheel was completely in
the air, spinning and right tire was spinning in mud...gotta get some
kind of lockers...and a little bit of lift...I was able to work the
steering wheel back and forth until the right front tire caught a
little bit of traction and got me out of it. Need to get a winch,
too. And some knobbier tires... Man, this is TOO MUCH FUN!!! :-D
--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!
shared the following:
>SWEEET!!! OOHH, I am so freaking jealous! Looks like you got your self a
>real honey! I'm sure you'll enjoy every mile!
>:-)
>
>--
>Jim
I am LOVING it. Today I ate lunch at my desk really quick so I'd have
time during my lunch hour to take a drive... and then took off for
some close-by trails. Fortunately I spend most of my time at work
away from others so they won't have to see my mud-caked shirt and
pants. heh heh. WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
Where I was going over some kinda rough stuff and started to teeter a
little bit...couldn't get traction...left rear wheel was completely in
the air, spinning and right tire was spinning in mud...gotta get some
kind of lockers...and a little bit of lift...I was able to work the
steering wheel back and forth until the right front tire caught a
little bit of traction and got me out of it. Need to get a winch,
too. And some knobbier tires... Man, this is TOO MUCH FUN!!! :-D
--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!
#72
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Re: ~~~ Say hello to my little friend!!! ~~~
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:01:29 -0400, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
shared the following:
>SWEEET!!! OOHH, I am so freaking jealous! Looks like you got your self a
>real honey! I'm sure you'll enjoy every mile!
>:-)
>
>--
>Jim
I am LOVING it. Today I ate lunch at my desk really quick so I'd have
time during my lunch hour to take a drive... and then took off for
some close-by trails. Fortunately I spend most of my time at work
away from others so they won't have to see my mud-caked shirt and
pants. heh heh. WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
Where I was going over some kinda rough stuff and started to teeter a
little bit...couldn't get traction...left rear wheel was completely in
the air, spinning and right tire was spinning in mud...gotta get some
kind of lockers...and a little bit of lift...I was able to work the
steering wheel back and forth until the right front tire caught a
little bit of traction and got me out of it. Need to get a winch,
too. And some knobbier tires... Man, this is TOO MUCH FUN!!! :-D
--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!
shared the following:
>SWEEET!!! OOHH, I am so freaking jealous! Looks like you got your self a
>real honey! I'm sure you'll enjoy every mile!
>:-)
>
>--
>Jim
I am LOVING it. Today I ate lunch at my desk really quick so I'd have
time during my lunch hour to take a drive... and then took off for
some close-by trails. Fortunately I spend most of my time at work
away from others so they won't have to see my mud-caked shirt and
pants. heh heh. WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
Where I was going over some kinda rough stuff and started to teeter a
little bit...couldn't get traction...left rear wheel was completely in
the air, spinning and right tire was spinning in mud...gotta get some
kind of lockers...and a little bit of lift...I was able to work the
steering wheel back and forth until the right front tire caught a
little bit of traction and got me out of it. Need to get a winch,
too. And some knobbier tires... Man, this is TOO MUCH FUN!!! :-D
--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!
#73
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Re: ~~~ Say hello to my little friend!!! ~~~
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:01:29 -0400, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
shared the following:
>SWEEET!!! OOHH, I am so freaking jealous! Looks like you got your self a
>real honey! I'm sure you'll enjoy every mile!
>:-)
>
>--
>Jim
I am LOVING it. Today I ate lunch at my desk really quick so I'd have
time during my lunch hour to take a drive... and then took off for
some close-by trails. Fortunately I spend most of my time at work
away from others so they won't have to see my mud-caked shirt and
pants. heh heh. WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
Where I was going over some kinda rough stuff and started to teeter a
little bit...couldn't get traction...left rear wheel was completely in
the air, spinning and right tire was spinning in mud...gotta get some
kind of lockers...and a little bit of lift...I was able to work the
steering wheel back and forth until the right front tire caught a
little bit of traction and got me out of it. Need to get a winch,
too. And some knobbier tires... Man, this is TOO MUCH FUN!!! :-D
--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!
shared the following:
>SWEEET!!! OOHH, I am so freaking jealous! Looks like you got your self a
>real honey! I'm sure you'll enjoy every mile!
>:-)
>
>--
>Jim
I am LOVING it. Today I ate lunch at my desk really quick so I'd have
time during my lunch hour to take a drive... and then took off for
some close-by trails. Fortunately I spend most of my time at work
away from others so they won't have to see my mud-caked shirt and
pants. heh heh. WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
Where I was going over some kinda rough stuff and started to teeter a
little bit...couldn't get traction...left rear wheel was completely in
the air, spinning and right tire was spinning in mud...gotta get some
kind of lockers...and a little bit of lift...I was able to work the
steering wheel back and forth until the right front tire caught a
little bit of traction and got me out of it. Need to get a winch,
too. And some knobbier tires... Man, this is TOO MUCH FUN!!! :-D
--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!
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Wiring WAS: ~~~ Say hello to my little friend!!! ~~~
On or about Mon, 20 Oct 2003, travis of travist34removethis@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:14:50 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> shared the following:
>
> > Also, think about a
> >complete rewire of the thing. One of the best things I did was to
> >replace the wiring with a Painless Products kit, took about 12 hours
> >work to install but was worth every minute. (Mine took longer to do
> >because I soldered and heat-shrink wrapped all the terminals.)
>
> Oh, I am thinking about it. The wiring on this thing is a mess.
> Windshield wipers aren't working, no light in the speedo, turn signals
> work when they want to, one brake light works only when it feels like
> it, temp gauge in speedo cluster reads C all the time, fuel gauge reads
> E all the time, fan blower motor doesn't work... You get the idea.
Might not be the wiring, it might just be the ground strap you were
looking for. That would explain a lot of stuff not working, or only
working sometimes. The dash cluster lamps will all blow out within months
of each other (good quality control there), while you're back there just
replace `em all.
The Painless product really is pretty good and I'm happy I bought one.
Here's the stuff to watch out for: The harness will include several lines
that won't do you any good, like stuff for a relay-controlled line for a
radiator cooling fan and an air conditioning compressor. Just bury them
someplace. The bulkhead connector at the firewall is a physical match for
the factory hole but not for the factory harness, so you can't
mix-n-match, you have to replace the whole thing. The behind the dash
wiring is a direct fit and goes fast, everything is tagged so you know
what goes here.
The under-hood wiring is less so. You'll want to partly unloom the
harness and relocate some things, like instrument signal wires which
emerge in simply wrong places. The ignition system sub harness is not
included in the kit, which you won't know until you read the instructions
-- if you yank all the wires before the box arrives you're in trouble.
The alternator leads are a "one size fits no one well" compromise to fit
Jeep's multiple sources for alternators, and the tags for this part of the
harness were either vague or absent in the one I got. Most, but not all,
of the "factory preterminated" kit has factory-style connectors on the
end. In particular the "push-on" quick connectors for the back of the
gauges, the oil and temp senders are absent. I spliced mine back on for
the senders.
And, of course, the price tag is anything but "painless".
Again, I'm happy with the kit, these are just some things to know before
ordering. On the upside, you can salvage the wires from your old bulkhead
connector and reinsert them into empty cells in the the new block to make
spiffy and clean connection for accessories like extra front lights. The
plastic parts won't interchange, but the wire terminals will.
If you make any changes to your wiring, don't use 3-M quick-ons or crimp
butt-splices. Strip, solder and heat shrink tubing them. Rust is your
enemy. Weird trivia: AMC used duct tape on their splices inside the
loom.
> >As for the gauges, Jeep makes upgraded fuel and temp gauges that are
> >installed into the speedo cluster. Mine were working but really inaccurate
> >(the previous owner replaced the entire cooling system because it would
> >intermittently peg the temp needle....all that was wrong was the gauge!)
> >I'd toss the aftermarket gauges!
> >
> I think I'll toss the aftermarket gauges, too. They look cheap and
> out-of-place. Thanks for your advice.
The oil pressure sender for the 1970s engines is an item that is prone to
failure. Just for the back of your mind.
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:14:50 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> shared the following:
>
> > Also, think about a
> >complete rewire of the thing. One of the best things I did was to
> >replace the wiring with a Painless Products kit, took about 12 hours
> >work to install but was worth every minute. (Mine took longer to do
> >because I soldered and heat-shrink wrapped all the terminals.)
>
> Oh, I am thinking about it. The wiring on this thing is a mess.
> Windshield wipers aren't working, no light in the speedo, turn signals
> work when they want to, one brake light works only when it feels like
> it, temp gauge in speedo cluster reads C all the time, fuel gauge reads
> E all the time, fan blower motor doesn't work... You get the idea.
Might not be the wiring, it might just be the ground strap you were
looking for. That would explain a lot of stuff not working, or only
working sometimes. The dash cluster lamps will all blow out within months
of each other (good quality control there), while you're back there just
replace `em all.
The Painless product really is pretty good and I'm happy I bought one.
Here's the stuff to watch out for: The harness will include several lines
that won't do you any good, like stuff for a relay-controlled line for a
radiator cooling fan and an air conditioning compressor. Just bury them
someplace. The bulkhead connector at the firewall is a physical match for
the factory hole but not for the factory harness, so you can't
mix-n-match, you have to replace the whole thing. The behind the dash
wiring is a direct fit and goes fast, everything is tagged so you know
what goes here.
The under-hood wiring is less so. You'll want to partly unloom the
harness and relocate some things, like instrument signal wires which
emerge in simply wrong places. The ignition system sub harness is not
included in the kit, which you won't know until you read the instructions
-- if you yank all the wires before the box arrives you're in trouble.
The alternator leads are a "one size fits no one well" compromise to fit
Jeep's multiple sources for alternators, and the tags for this part of the
harness were either vague or absent in the one I got. Most, but not all,
of the "factory preterminated" kit has factory-style connectors on the
end. In particular the "push-on" quick connectors for the back of the
gauges, the oil and temp senders are absent. I spliced mine back on for
the senders.
And, of course, the price tag is anything but "painless".
Again, I'm happy with the kit, these are just some things to know before
ordering. On the upside, you can salvage the wires from your old bulkhead
connector and reinsert them into empty cells in the the new block to make
spiffy and clean connection for accessories like extra front lights. The
plastic parts won't interchange, but the wire terminals will.
If you make any changes to your wiring, don't use 3-M quick-ons or crimp
butt-splices. Strip, solder and heat shrink tubing them. Rust is your
enemy. Weird trivia: AMC used duct tape on their splices inside the
loom.
> >As for the gauges, Jeep makes upgraded fuel and temp gauges that are
> >installed into the speedo cluster. Mine were working but really inaccurate
> >(the previous owner replaced the entire cooling system because it would
> >intermittently peg the temp needle....all that was wrong was the gauge!)
> >I'd toss the aftermarket gauges!
> >
> I think I'll toss the aftermarket gauges, too. They look cheap and
> out-of-place. Thanks for your advice.
The oil pressure sender for the 1970s engines is an item that is prone to
failure. Just for the back of your mind.
#75
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Wiring WAS: ~~~ Say hello to my little friend!!! ~~~
On or about Mon, 20 Oct 2003, travis of travist34removethis@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:14:50 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> shared the following:
>
> > Also, think about a
> >complete rewire of the thing. One of the best things I did was to
> >replace the wiring with a Painless Products kit, took about 12 hours
> >work to install but was worth every minute. (Mine took longer to do
> >because I soldered and heat-shrink wrapped all the terminals.)
>
> Oh, I am thinking about it. The wiring on this thing is a mess.
> Windshield wipers aren't working, no light in the speedo, turn signals
> work when they want to, one brake light works only when it feels like
> it, temp gauge in speedo cluster reads C all the time, fuel gauge reads
> E all the time, fan blower motor doesn't work... You get the idea.
Might not be the wiring, it might just be the ground strap you were
looking for. That would explain a lot of stuff not working, or only
working sometimes. The dash cluster lamps will all blow out within months
of each other (good quality control there), while you're back there just
replace `em all.
The Painless product really is pretty good and I'm happy I bought one.
Here's the stuff to watch out for: The harness will include several lines
that won't do you any good, like stuff for a relay-controlled line for a
radiator cooling fan and an air conditioning compressor. Just bury them
someplace. The bulkhead connector at the firewall is a physical match for
the factory hole but not for the factory harness, so you can't
mix-n-match, you have to replace the whole thing. The behind the dash
wiring is a direct fit and goes fast, everything is tagged so you know
what goes here.
The under-hood wiring is less so. You'll want to partly unloom the
harness and relocate some things, like instrument signal wires which
emerge in simply wrong places. The ignition system sub harness is not
included in the kit, which you won't know until you read the instructions
-- if you yank all the wires before the box arrives you're in trouble.
The alternator leads are a "one size fits no one well" compromise to fit
Jeep's multiple sources for alternators, and the tags for this part of the
harness were either vague or absent in the one I got. Most, but not all,
of the "factory preterminated" kit has factory-style connectors on the
end. In particular the "push-on" quick connectors for the back of the
gauges, the oil and temp senders are absent. I spliced mine back on for
the senders.
And, of course, the price tag is anything but "painless".
Again, I'm happy with the kit, these are just some things to know before
ordering. On the upside, you can salvage the wires from your old bulkhead
connector and reinsert them into empty cells in the the new block to make
spiffy and clean connection for accessories like extra front lights. The
plastic parts won't interchange, but the wire terminals will.
If you make any changes to your wiring, don't use 3-M quick-ons or crimp
butt-splices. Strip, solder and heat shrink tubing them. Rust is your
enemy. Weird trivia: AMC used duct tape on their splices inside the
loom.
> >As for the gauges, Jeep makes upgraded fuel and temp gauges that are
> >installed into the speedo cluster. Mine were working but really inaccurate
> >(the previous owner replaced the entire cooling system because it would
> >intermittently peg the temp needle....all that was wrong was the gauge!)
> >I'd toss the aftermarket gauges!
> >
> I think I'll toss the aftermarket gauges, too. They look cheap and
> out-of-place. Thanks for your advice.
The oil pressure sender for the 1970s engines is an item that is prone to
failure. Just for the back of your mind.
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:14:50 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> shared the following:
>
> > Also, think about a
> >complete rewire of the thing. One of the best things I did was to
> >replace the wiring with a Painless Products kit, took about 12 hours
> >work to install but was worth every minute. (Mine took longer to do
> >because I soldered and heat-shrink wrapped all the terminals.)
>
> Oh, I am thinking about it. The wiring on this thing is a mess.
> Windshield wipers aren't working, no light in the speedo, turn signals
> work when they want to, one brake light works only when it feels like
> it, temp gauge in speedo cluster reads C all the time, fuel gauge reads
> E all the time, fan blower motor doesn't work... You get the idea.
Might not be the wiring, it might just be the ground strap you were
looking for. That would explain a lot of stuff not working, or only
working sometimes. The dash cluster lamps will all blow out within months
of each other (good quality control there), while you're back there just
replace `em all.
The Painless product really is pretty good and I'm happy I bought one.
Here's the stuff to watch out for: The harness will include several lines
that won't do you any good, like stuff for a relay-controlled line for a
radiator cooling fan and an air conditioning compressor. Just bury them
someplace. The bulkhead connector at the firewall is a physical match for
the factory hole but not for the factory harness, so you can't
mix-n-match, you have to replace the whole thing. The behind the dash
wiring is a direct fit and goes fast, everything is tagged so you know
what goes here.
The under-hood wiring is less so. You'll want to partly unloom the
harness and relocate some things, like instrument signal wires which
emerge in simply wrong places. The ignition system sub harness is not
included in the kit, which you won't know until you read the instructions
-- if you yank all the wires before the box arrives you're in trouble.
The alternator leads are a "one size fits no one well" compromise to fit
Jeep's multiple sources for alternators, and the tags for this part of the
harness were either vague or absent in the one I got. Most, but not all,
of the "factory preterminated" kit has factory-style connectors on the
end. In particular the "push-on" quick connectors for the back of the
gauges, the oil and temp senders are absent. I spliced mine back on for
the senders.
And, of course, the price tag is anything but "painless".
Again, I'm happy with the kit, these are just some things to know before
ordering. On the upside, you can salvage the wires from your old bulkhead
connector and reinsert them into empty cells in the the new block to make
spiffy and clean connection for accessories like extra front lights. The
plastic parts won't interchange, but the wire terminals will.
If you make any changes to your wiring, don't use 3-M quick-ons or crimp
butt-splices. Strip, solder and heat shrink tubing them. Rust is your
enemy. Weird trivia: AMC used duct tape on their splices inside the
loom.
> >As for the gauges, Jeep makes upgraded fuel and temp gauges that are
> >installed into the speedo cluster. Mine were working but really inaccurate
> >(the previous owner replaced the entire cooling system because it would
> >intermittently peg the temp needle....all that was wrong was the gauge!)
> >I'd toss the aftermarket gauges!
> >
> I think I'll toss the aftermarket gauges, too. They look cheap and
> out-of-place. Thanks for your advice.
The oil pressure sender for the 1970s engines is an item that is prone to
failure. Just for the back of your mind.
#76
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Wiring WAS: ~~~ Say hello to my little friend!!! ~~~
On or about Mon, 20 Oct 2003, travis of travist34removethis@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:14:50 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> shared the following:
>
> > Also, think about a
> >complete rewire of the thing. One of the best things I did was to
> >replace the wiring with a Painless Products kit, took about 12 hours
> >work to install but was worth every minute. (Mine took longer to do
> >because I soldered and heat-shrink wrapped all the terminals.)
>
> Oh, I am thinking about it. The wiring on this thing is a mess.
> Windshield wipers aren't working, no light in the speedo, turn signals
> work when they want to, one brake light works only when it feels like
> it, temp gauge in speedo cluster reads C all the time, fuel gauge reads
> E all the time, fan blower motor doesn't work... You get the idea.
Might not be the wiring, it might just be the ground strap you were
looking for. That would explain a lot of stuff not working, or only
working sometimes. The dash cluster lamps will all blow out within months
of each other (good quality control there), while you're back there just
replace `em all.
The Painless product really is pretty good and I'm happy I bought one.
Here's the stuff to watch out for: The harness will include several lines
that won't do you any good, like stuff for a relay-controlled line for a
radiator cooling fan and an air conditioning compressor. Just bury them
someplace. The bulkhead connector at the firewall is a physical match for
the factory hole but not for the factory harness, so you can't
mix-n-match, you have to replace the whole thing. The behind the dash
wiring is a direct fit and goes fast, everything is tagged so you know
what goes here.
The under-hood wiring is less so. You'll want to partly unloom the
harness and relocate some things, like instrument signal wires which
emerge in simply wrong places. The ignition system sub harness is not
included in the kit, which you won't know until you read the instructions
-- if you yank all the wires before the box arrives you're in trouble.
The alternator leads are a "one size fits no one well" compromise to fit
Jeep's multiple sources for alternators, and the tags for this part of the
harness were either vague or absent in the one I got. Most, but not all,
of the "factory preterminated" kit has factory-style connectors on the
end. In particular the "push-on" quick connectors for the back of the
gauges, the oil and temp senders are absent. I spliced mine back on for
the senders.
And, of course, the price tag is anything but "painless".
Again, I'm happy with the kit, these are just some things to know before
ordering. On the upside, you can salvage the wires from your old bulkhead
connector and reinsert them into empty cells in the the new block to make
spiffy and clean connection for accessories like extra front lights. The
plastic parts won't interchange, but the wire terminals will.
If you make any changes to your wiring, don't use 3-M quick-ons or crimp
butt-splices. Strip, solder and heat shrink tubing them. Rust is your
enemy. Weird trivia: AMC used duct tape on their splices inside the
loom.
> >As for the gauges, Jeep makes upgraded fuel and temp gauges that are
> >installed into the speedo cluster. Mine were working but really inaccurate
> >(the previous owner replaced the entire cooling system because it would
> >intermittently peg the temp needle....all that was wrong was the gauge!)
> >I'd toss the aftermarket gauges!
> >
> I think I'll toss the aftermarket gauges, too. They look cheap and
> out-of-place. Thanks for your advice.
The oil pressure sender for the 1970s engines is an item that is prone to
failure. Just for the back of your mind.
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:14:50 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> shared the following:
>
> > Also, think about a
> >complete rewire of the thing. One of the best things I did was to
> >replace the wiring with a Painless Products kit, took about 12 hours
> >work to install but was worth every minute. (Mine took longer to do
> >because I soldered and heat-shrink wrapped all the terminals.)
>
> Oh, I am thinking about it. The wiring on this thing is a mess.
> Windshield wipers aren't working, no light in the speedo, turn signals
> work when they want to, one brake light works only when it feels like
> it, temp gauge in speedo cluster reads C all the time, fuel gauge reads
> E all the time, fan blower motor doesn't work... You get the idea.
Might not be the wiring, it might just be the ground strap you were
looking for. That would explain a lot of stuff not working, or only
working sometimes. The dash cluster lamps will all blow out within months
of each other (good quality control there), while you're back there just
replace `em all.
The Painless product really is pretty good and I'm happy I bought one.
Here's the stuff to watch out for: The harness will include several lines
that won't do you any good, like stuff for a relay-controlled line for a
radiator cooling fan and an air conditioning compressor. Just bury them
someplace. The bulkhead connector at the firewall is a physical match for
the factory hole but not for the factory harness, so you can't
mix-n-match, you have to replace the whole thing. The behind the dash
wiring is a direct fit and goes fast, everything is tagged so you know
what goes here.
The under-hood wiring is less so. You'll want to partly unloom the
harness and relocate some things, like instrument signal wires which
emerge in simply wrong places. The ignition system sub harness is not
included in the kit, which you won't know until you read the instructions
-- if you yank all the wires before the box arrives you're in trouble.
The alternator leads are a "one size fits no one well" compromise to fit
Jeep's multiple sources for alternators, and the tags for this part of the
harness were either vague or absent in the one I got. Most, but not all,
of the "factory preterminated" kit has factory-style connectors on the
end. In particular the "push-on" quick connectors for the back of the
gauges, the oil and temp senders are absent. I spliced mine back on for
the senders.
And, of course, the price tag is anything but "painless".
Again, I'm happy with the kit, these are just some things to know before
ordering. On the upside, you can salvage the wires from your old bulkhead
connector and reinsert them into empty cells in the the new block to make
spiffy and clean connection for accessories like extra front lights. The
plastic parts won't interchange, but the wire terminals will.
If you make any changes to your wiring, don't use 3-M quick-ons or crimp
butt-splices. Strip, solder and heat shrink tubing them. Rust is your
enemy. Weird trivia: AMC used duct tape on their splices inside the
loom.
> >As for the gauges, Jeep makes upgraded fuel and temp gauges that are
> >installed into the speedo cluster. Mine were working but really inaccurate
> >(the previous owner replaced the entire cooling system because it would
> >intermittently peg the temp needle....all that was wrong was the gauge!)
> >I'd toss the aftermarket gauges!
> >
> I think I'll toss the aftermarket gauges, too. They look cheap and
> out-of-place. Thanks for your advice.
The oil pressure sender for the 1970s engines is an item that is prone to
failure. Just for the back of your mind.
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Re: ~~~ Say hello to my little friend!!! ~~~
Travis,
I bought a 73 Ford Bronco (early Bronco) back in '88 that was baby blue.
I didn't like the color either, but the truck only had about 20k orig.
miles on it so it was a no-brainer. It kinda grew on me and even tho.
baby blue isn't my color, when I think of early Broncos, I still picture
mine. Every time I see a baby blue one, it looks kinda, well...nice. :)
travis wrote:
SNIP
> WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
> intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
> like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
> anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
SNIP
> --
> Travis
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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I bought a 73 Ford Bronco (early Bronco) back in '88 that was baby blue.
I didn't like the color either, but the truck only had about 20k orig.
miles on it so it was a no-brainer. It kinda grew on me and even tho.
baby blue isn't my color, when I think of early Broncos, I still picture
mine. Every time I see a baby blue one, it looks kinda, well...nice. :)
travis wrote:
SNIP
> WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
> intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
> like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
> anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
SNIP
> --
> Travis
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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Re: ~~~ Say hello to my little friend!!! ~~~
Travis,
I bought a 73 Ford Bronco (early Bronco) back in '88 that was baby blue.
I didn't like the color either, but the truck only had about 20k orig.
miles on it so it was a no-brainer. It kinda grew on me and even tho.
baby blue isn't my color, when I think of early Broncos, I still picture
mine. Every time I see a baby blue one, it looks kinda, well...nice. :)
travis wrote:
SNIP
> WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
> intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
> like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
> anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
SNIP
> --
> Travis
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
I bought a 73 Ford Bronco (early Bronco) back in '88 that was baby blue.
I didn't like the color either, but the truck only had about 20k orig.
miles on it so it was a no-brainer. It kinda grew on me and even tho.
baby blue isn't my color, when I think of early Broncos, I still picture
mine. Every time I see a baby blue one, it looks kinda, well...nice. :)
travis wrote:
SNIP
> WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
> intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
> like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
> anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
SNIP
> --
> Travis
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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Re: ~~~ Say hello to my little friend!!! ~~~
Travis,
I bought a 73 Ford Bronco (early Bronco) back in '88 that was baby blue.
I didn't like the color either, but the truck only had about 20k orig.
miles on it so it was a no-brainer. It kinda grew on me and even tho.
baby blue isn't my color, when I think of early Broncos, I still picture
mine. Every time I see a baby blue one, it looks kinda, well...nice. :)
travis wrote:
SNIP
> WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
> intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
> like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
> anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
SNIP
> --
> Travis
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
I bought a 73 Ford Bronco (early Bronco) back in '88 that was baby blue.
I didn't like the color either, but the truck only had about 20k orig.
miles on it so it was a no-brainer. It kinda grew on me and even tho.
baby blue isn't my color, when I think of early Broncos, I still picture
mine. Every time I see a baby blue one, it looks kinda, well...nice. :)
travis wrote:
SNIP
> WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
> intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
> like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
> anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
SNIP
> --
> Travis
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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Re: ~~~ Say hello to my little friend!!! ~~~
I know it's fun, but don't go wheeling alone.
I like the blue.
I love CJ5s.
Get a winch. (I can say that even though I don't have one.)
Have a ball!
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c7napv0lm8hj7dhbpfjqkpgjok7lm9f53b@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:01:29 -0400, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
> shared the following:
>
> >SWEEET!!! OOHH, I am so freaking jealous! Looks like you got your self
a
> >real honey! I'm sure you'll enjoy every mile!
> >:-)
> >
> >--
> >Jim
>
> I am LOVING it. Today I ate lunch at my desk really quick so I'd have
> time during my lunch hour to take a drive... and then took off for
> some close-by trails. Fortunately I spend most of my time at work
> away from others so they won't have to see my mud-caked shirt and
> pants. heh heh. WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
> intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
> like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
> anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
> Where I was going over some kinda rough stuff and started to teeter a
> little bit...couldn't get traction...left rear wheel was completely in
> the air, spinning and right tire was spinning in mud...gotta get some
> kind of lockers...and a little bit of lift...I was able to work the
> steering wheel back and forth until the right front tire caught a
> little bit of traction and got me out of it. Need to get a winch,
> too. And some knobbier tires... Man, this is TOO MUCH FUN!!! :-D
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
I like the blue.
I love CJ5s.
Get a winch. (I can say that even though I don't have one.)
Have a ball!
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c7napv0lm8hj7dhbpfjqkpgjok7lm9f53b@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:01:29 -0400, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
> shared the following:
>
> >SWEEET!!! OOHH, I am so freaking jealous! Looks like you got your self
a
> >real honey! I'm sure you'll enjoy every mile!
> >:-)
> >
> >--
> >Jim
>
> I am LOVING it. Today I ate lunch at my desk really quick so I'd have
> time during my lunch hour to take a drive... and then took off for
> some close-by trails. Fortunately I spend most of my time at work
> away from others so they won't have to see my mud-caked shirt and
> pants. heh heh. WHOO HOOO!!!! Just got back from some pretty
> intense stuff. Maybe I won't even need to paint the Jeep. I don't
> like that blue color, but most of it's covered up with mud right now
> anyway. I *almost* got uh....(what to you call that?) high centered?
> Where I was going over some kinda rough stuff and started to teeter a
> little bit...couldn't get traction...left rear wheel was completely in
> the air, spinning and right tire was spinning in mud...gotta get some
> kind of lockers...and a little bit of lift...I was able to work the
> steering wheel back and forth until the right front tire caught a
> little bit of traction and got me out of it. Need to get a winch,
> too. And some knobbier tires... Man, this is TOO MUCH FUN!!! :-D
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!