In article <k96dnSTGzJgKXAuiRVn-hA@comcast.com>, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
writes:

>I think you're right about the "steering brakes" thing. It should work
>pretty well transferring torque away from a spinning wheel, though. Hmmm.
>I wonder why no one seems to be selling anything like this...

I've seen "cutting brakes" that do this through the brake hydraulics...pull a
lever, and one of your rear wheels is locked. The primary use is to make
extra-tight turns by disengaging the rear axle...using on the front axle, the
one locked rear wheel would act as a pivot point for the turn. Of course you'd
need a T case set up to select a front-only output.

* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

 

In article <k96dnSTGzJgKXAuiRVn-hA@comcast.com>, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
writes:

>I think you're right about the "steering brakes" thing. It should work
>pretty well transferring torque away from a spinning wheel, though. Hmmm.
>I wonder why no one seems to be selling anything like this...

I've seen "cutting brakes" that do this through the brake hydraulics...pull a
lever, and one of your rear wheels is locked. The primary use is to make
extra-tight turns by disengaging the rear axle...using on the front axle, the
one locked rear wheel would act as a pivot point for the turn. Of course you'd
need a T case set up to select a front-only output.

* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

 

In article <k96dnSTGzJgKXAuiRVn-hA@comcast.com>, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
writes:

>I think you're right about the "steering brakes" thing. It should work
>pretty well transferring torque away from a spinning wheel, though. Hmmm.
>I wonder why no one seems to be selling anything like this...

I've seen "cutting brakes" that do this through the brake hydraulics...pull a
lever, and one of your rear wheels is locked. The primary use is to make
extra-tight turns by disengaging the rear axle...using on the front axle, the
one locked rear wheel would act as a pivot point for the turn. Of course you'd
need a T case set up to select a front-only output.

* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

 

For those of use whose first driving experience was an old farm tractor,
the concept of individually controlled rear brakes is vary familiar. If
the left wheel spins in muck, you stab the pedal for the right brake a few
times and jolt your way free. The pedals were paired so that you could
step on both with one foot for regular braking.



On or about Wed, 22 Oct 2003, TJim of jim@ranlet.nospam.com wrote:

> I think you're right about the "steering brakes" thing. It should work
> pretty well transferring torque away from a spinning wheel, though. Hmmm.
> I wonder why no one seems to be selling anything like this...
[...]
> "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:lpbdpv0200ahjh663530v5dem20hcjklod@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:44:56 -0400, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
> > shared the following:
> >
> > >They used to sell split e-brake handles for VWs. Dual levers with
> handles
> > >going off in opposite directions, sort of Y shaped when viewed from the
> top.
> > >Each lever would be cabled to the rear wheel on it's side of the car. I
> > >would think this could be a helpful rig on jeeps with open diffs or LSDs,
> > >too.
> > >Travis, did you ever see these?
> >
> > Only in the magazines, never in person. I think they called them
> > "steering brakes" or something to that effect. They were intended
> > more to help you steer in the sand by braking on one rear tire at a
> > time than to compensate for a non-fully-locking diff. At least that
> > was my take on it. I never got into the sand dune stuff. I stuck
> > with mud/rocks/hills. :-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > :wq!
>
>
>

--
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as having multiple satellites circling the globe to ensure complete
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For those of use whose first driving experience was an old farm tractor,
the concept of individually controlled rear brakes is vary familiar. If
the left wheel spins in muck, you stab the pedal for the right brake a few
times and jolt your way free. The pedals were paired so that you could
step on both with one foot for regular braking.



On or about Wed, 22 Oct 2003, TJim of jim@ranlet.nospam.com wrote:

> I think you're right about the "steering brakes" thing. It should work
> pretty well transferring torque away from a spinning wheel, though. Hmmm.
> I wonder why no one seems to be selling anything like this...
[...]
> "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:lpbdpv0200ahjh663530v5dem20hcjklod@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:44:56 -0400, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
> > shared the following:
> >
> > >They used to sell split e-brake handles for VWs. Dual levers with
> handles
> > >going off in opposite directions, sort of Y shaped when viewed from the
> top.
> > >Each lever would be cabled to the rear wheel on it's side of the car. I
> > >would think this could be a helpful rig on jeeps with open diffs or LSDs,
> > >too.
> > >Travis, did you ever see these?
> >
> > Only in the magazines, never in person. I think they called them
> > "steering brakes" or something to that effect. They were intended
> > more to help you steer in the sand by braking on one rear tire at a
> > time than to compensate for a non-fully-locking diff. At least that
> > was my take on it. I never got into the sand dune stuff. I stuck
> > with mud/rocks/hills. :-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > :wq!
>
>
>

--
"doing whatever it took to capture world marketing shares, even as far
as having multiple satellites circling the globe to ensure complete
coverage and maximum profit potential."

Tealady spills the beans on AFU's new business plan.

 

For those of use whose first driving experience was an old farm tractor,
the concept of individually controlled rear brakes is vary familiar. If
the left wheel spins in muck, you stab the pedal for the right brake a few
times and jolt your way free. The pedals were paired so that you could
step on both with one foot for regular braking.



On or about Wed, 22 Oct 2003, TJim of jim@ranlet.nospam.com wrote:

> I think you're right about the "steering brakes" thing. It should work
> pretty well transferring torque away from a spinning wheel, though. Hmmm.
> I wonder why no one seems to be selling anything like this...
[...]
> "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:lpbdpv0200ahjh663530v5dem20hcjklod@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:44:56 -0400, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
> > shared the following:
> >
> > >They used to sell split e-brake handles for VWs. Dual levers with
> handles
> > >going off in opposite directions, sort of Y shaped when viewed from the
> top.
> > >Each lever would be cabled to the rear wheel on it's side of the car. I
> > >would think this could be a helpful rig on jeeps with open diffs or LSDs,
> > >too.
> > >Travis, did you ever see these?
> >
> > Only in the magazines, never in person. I think they called them
> > "steering brakes" or something to that effect. They were intended
> > more to help you steer in the sand by braking on one rear tire at a
> > time than to compensate for a non-fully-locking diff. At least that
> > was my take on it. I never got into the sand dune stuff. I stuck
> > with mud/rocks/hills. :-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > :wq!
>
>
>

--
"doing whatever it took to capture world marketing shares, even as far
as having multiple satellites circling the globe to ensure complete
coverage and maximum profit potential."

Tealady spills the beans on AFU's new business plan.

 

On or about Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Lee Ayrton of layrton@ntplx.net wrote:

> For those of use whose first driving experience was an old farm tractor,
> the concept of individually controlled rear brakes is vary familiar. If
> the left wheel spins in muck, you stab the pedal for the right brake a few
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

....left brake to stop it spinning and transfer torque to the right
wheel... (Not enough coffee on board.)

> times and jolt your way free. The pedals were paired so that you could
> step on both with one foot for regular braking.
>
>
>
> On or about Wed, 22 Oct 2003, TJim of jim@ranlet.nospam.com wrote:
>
> > I think you're right about the "steering brakes" thing. It should work
> > pretty well transferring torque away from a spinning wheel, though. Hmmm.
> > I wonder why no one seems to be selling anything like this...
> [...]
> > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:lpbdpv0200ahjh663530v5dem20hcjklod@4ax.com...
> > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:44:56 -0400, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
> > > shared the following:
> > >
> > > >They used to sell split e-brake handles for VWs. Dual levers with
> > handles
> > > >going off in opposite directions, sort of Y shaped when viewed from the
> > top.
> > > >Each lever would be cabled to the rear wheel on it's side of the car. I
> > > >would think this could be a helpful rig on jeeps with open diffs or LSDs,
> > > >too.
> > > >Travis, did you ever see these?
> > >
> > > Only in the magazines, never in person. I think they called them
> > > "steering brakes" or something to that effect. They were intended
> > > more to help you steer in the sand by braking on one rear tire at a
> > > time than to compensate for a non-fully-locking diff. At least that
> > > was my take on it. I never got into the sand dune stuff. I stuck
> > > with mud/rocks/hills. :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > :wq!
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> "doing whatever it took to capture world marketing shares, even as far
> as having multiple satellites circling the globe to ensure complete
> coverage and maximum profit potential."
>
> Tealady spills the beans on AFU's new business plan.
>
>
>
>

--
"doing whatever it took to capture world marketing shares, even as far
as having multiple satellites circling the globe to ensure complete
coverage and maximum profit potential."

Tealady spills the beans on AFU's new business plan.

 

On or about Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Lee Ayrton of layrton@ntplx.net wrote:

> For those of use whose first driving experience was an old farm tractor,
> the concept of individually controlled rear brakes is vary familiar. If
> the left wheel spins in muck, you stab the pedal for the right brake a few
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

....left brake to stop it spinning and transfer torque to the right
wheel... (Not enough coffee on board.)

> times and jolt your way free. The pedals were paired so that you could
> step on both with one foot for regular braking.
>
>
>
> On or about Wed, 22 Oct 2003, TJim of jim@ranlet.nospam.com wrote:
>
> > I think you're right about the "steering brakes" thing. It should work
> > pretty well transferring torque away from a spinning wheel, though. Hmmm.
> > I wonder why no one seems to be selling anything like this...
> [...]
> > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:lpbdpv0200ahjh663530v5dem20hcjklod@4ax.com...
> > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:44:56 -0400, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
> > > shared the following:
> > >
> > > >They used to sell split e-brake handles for VWs. Dual levers with
> > handles
> > > >going off in opposite directions, sort of Y shaped when viewed from the
> > top.
> > > >Each lever would be cabled to the rear wheel on it's side of the car. I
> > > >would think this could be a helpful rig on jeeps with open diffs or LSDs,
> > > >too.
> > > >Travis, did you ever see these?
> > >
> > > Only in the magazines, never in person. I think they called them
> > > "steering brakes" or something to that effect. They were intended
> > > more to help you steer in the sand by braking on one rear tire at a
> > > time than to compensate for a non-fully-locking diff. At least that
> > > was my take on it. I never got into the sand dune stuff. I stuck
> > > with mud/rocks/hills. :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > :wq!
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> "doing whatever it took to capture world marketing shares, even as far
> as having multiple satellites circling the globe to ensure complete
> coverage and maximum profit potential."
>
> Tealady spills the beans on AFU's new business plan.
>
>
>
>

--
"doing whatever it took to capture world marketing shares, even as far
as having multiple satellites circling the globe to ensure complete
coverage and maximum profit potential."

Tealady spills the beans on AFU's new business plan.

 

On or about Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Lee Ayrton of layrton@ntplx.net wrote:

> For those of use whose first driving experience was an old farm tractor,
> the concept of individually controlled rear brakes is vary familiar. If
> the left wheel spins in muck, you stab the pedal for the right brake a few
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

....left brake to stop it spinning and transfer torque to the right
wheel... (Not enough coffee on board.)

> times and jolt your way free. The pedals were paired so that you could
> step on both with one foot for regular braking.
>
>
>
> On or about Wed, 22 Oct 2003, TJim of jim@ranlet.nospam.com wrote:
>
> > I think you're right about the "steering brakes" thing. It should work
> > pretty well transferring torque away from a spinning wheel, though. Hmmm.
> > I wonder why no one seems to be selling anything like this...
> [...]
> > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:lpbdpv0200ahjh663530v5dem20hcjklod@4ax.com...
> > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:44:56 -0400, "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com>
> > > shared the following:
> > >
> > > >They used to sell split e-brake handles for VWs. Dual levers with
> > handles
> > > >going off in opposite directions, sort of Y shaped when viewed from the
> > top.
> > > >Each lever would be cabled to the rear wheel on it's side of the car. I
> > > >would think this could be a helpful rig on jeeps with open diffs or LSDs,
> > > >too.
> > > >Travis, did you ever see these?
> > >
> > > Only in the magazines, never in person. I think they called them
> > > "steering brakes" or something to that effect. They were intended
> > > more to help you steer in the sand by braking on one rear tire at a
> > > time than to compensate for a non-fully-locking diff. At least that
> > > was my take on it. I never got into the sand dune stuff. I stuck
> > > with mud/rocks/hills. :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > :wq!
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> "doing whatever it took to capture world marketing shares, even as far
> as having multiple satellites circling the globe to ensure complete
> coverage and maximum profit potential."
>
> Tealady spills the beans on AFU's new business plan.
>
>
>
>

--
"doing whatever it took to capture world marketing shares, even as far
as having multiple satellites circling the globe to ensure complete
coverage and maximum profit potential."

Tealady spills the beans on AFU's new business plan.