Please back up isn't required it's common knowledge that in the 70's when
gays started coming out the vast majority maintained they were born that
way, i.e.. a man in a woman's body or vice versa. Or claimed there was no
choice in the matter as they developed that way. Then this position led to
the transvestite and --- change operations. And about the Bible positions,
I'm not judging, simply stated Bible facts as well as biological facts ---
hard to argue with human anatomy.
"Timberwoof" <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in message
news:timberwoof-DB59B0.20084810042004@typhoon.sonic.net...
> In article <db_dc.43365$wq4.2689405@news20.bellglobal.com>,
> "Mmhsb" <mymariashsb@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be
discriminated
> > against cause they're born that way -
>
> I don't recall that it was gay people who said it was a disease. Maybe
> you could provide some backup for that claim?
>
>
> > now it seems the position is they are
> > gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of.
>
> Excuse me? Who said that?
>
>
> > Bible says homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man
> > & woman. So if you believe in God & the Bible - there you go.
>
> Not all Christian churches agree with that interpretation.
>
>
> > If not it's still wrong - face it! The body was obviously designed
> > for male & female --- hence opposite body parts --- so what's the
> > argument about --- the proof is evident.
>
> If God had meat for men to be ----ed, he'd have given them an -------.
>
> --
> Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
> http://www.timberwoof.com
> Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html

 

Please back up isn't required it's common knowledge that in the 70's when
gays started coming out the vast majority maintained they were born that
way, i.e.. a man in a woman's body or vice versa. Or claimed there was no
choice in the matter as they developed that way. Then this position led to
the transvestite and --- change operations. And about the Bible positions,
I'm not judging, simply stated Bible facts as well as biological facts ---
hard to argue with human anatomy.
"Timberwoof" <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in message
news:timberwoof-DB59B0.20084810042004@typhoon.sonic.net...
> In article <db_dc.43365$wq4.2689405@news20.bellglobal.com>,
> "Mmhsb" <mymariashsb@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be
discriminated
> > against cause they're born that way -
>
> I don't recall that it was gay people who said it was a disease. Maybe
> you could provide some backup for that claim?
>
>
> > now it seems the position is they are
> > gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of.
>
> Excuse me? Who said that?
>
>
> > Bible says homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man
> > & woman. So if you believe in God & the Bible - there you go.
>
> Not all Christian churches agree with that interpretation.
>
>
> > If not it's still wrong - face it! The body was obviously designed
> > for male & female --- hence opposite body parts --- so what's the
> > argument about --- the proof is evident.
>
> If God had meat for men to be ----ed, he'd have given them an -------.
>
> --
> Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
> http://www.timberwoof.com
> Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html

 

Please back up isn't required it's common knowledge that in the 70's when
gays started coming out the vast majority maintained they were born that
way, i.e.. a man in a woman's body or vice versa. Or claimed there was no
choice in the matter as they developed that way. Then this position led to
the transvestite and --- change operations. And about the Bible positions,
I'm not judging, simply stated Bible facts as well as biological facts ---
hard to argue with human anatomy.
"Timberwoof" <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in message
news:timberwoof-DB59B0.20084810042004@typhoon.sonic.net...
> In article <db_dc.43365$wq4.2689405@news20.bellglobal.com>,
> "Mmhsb" <mymariashsb@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be
discriminated
> > against cause they're born that way -
>
> I don't recall that it was gay people who said it was a disease. Maybe
> you could provide some backup for that claim?
>
>
> > now it seems the position is they are
> > gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of.
>
> Excuse me? Who said that?
>
>
> > Bible says homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man
> > & woman. So if you believe in God & the Bible - there you go.
>
> Not all Christian churches agree with that interpretation.
>
>
> > If not it's still wrong - face it! The body was obviously designed
> > for male & female --- hence opposite body parts --- so what's the
> > argument about --- the proof is evident.
>
> If God had meat for men to be ----ed, he'd have given them an -------.
>
> --
> Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
> http://www.timberwoof.com
> Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html

 

In article <97b0c37d.0404101827.7114de86@posting.google.com >,
d2004xx@hotmail.com (d2004xx) wrote:

> "Joseph P" <jpribeat@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:<gUVdc.2667$Hj1.112709@twister.southeast.rr.c om>...
> > My parents are a normal, straight couple. I am pretty sure they are
> > more strange than most any gay couple around. Of course, I have only
> > known a few homosexual couples, but my parents had them all beat. I
> > am still seeing shrinks about it. Imagine Kiss, but as a married
> > couple instead of a band. That's my parents.
>
> gay marriage is ok, but with children?? I don't think the children
> would be happy about that....
>
> <snip>

Got news for ya. There are already thousands of children of gay parents
(tens of thousands, at least, if you count children who have one gay
parent) and they seem to be doing fine.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
http://www.timberwoof.com
Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html

 

In article <97b0c37d.0404101827.7114de86@posting.google.com >,
d2004xx@hotmail.com (d2004xx) wrote:

> "Joseph P" <jpribeat@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:<gUVdc.2667$Hj1.112709@twister.southeast.rr.c om>...
> > My parents are a normal, straight couple. I am pretty sure they are
> > more strange than most any gay couple around. Of course, I have only
> > known a few homosexual couples, but my parents had them all beat. I
> > am still seeing shrinks about it. Imagine Kiss, but as a married
> > couple instead of a band. That's my parents.
>
> gay marriage is ok, but with children?? I don't think the children
> would be happy about that....
>
> <snip>

Got news for ya. There are already thousands of children of gay parents
(tens of thousands, at least, if you count children who have one gay
parent) and they seem to be doing fine.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
http://www.timberwoof.com
Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html

 

In article <97b0c37d.0404101827.7114de86@posting.google.com >,
d2004xx@hotmail.com (d2004xx) wrote:

> "Joseph P" <jpribeat@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:<gUVdc.2667$Hj1.112709@twister.southeast.rr.c om>...
> > My parents are a normal, straight couple. I am pretty sure they are
> > more strange than most any gay couple around. Of course, I have only
> > known a few homosexual couples, but my parents had them all beat. I
> > am still seeing shrinks about it. Imagine Kiss, but as a married
> > couple instead of a band. That's my parents.
>
> gay marriage is ok, but with children?? I don't think the children
> would be happy about that....
>
> <snip>

Got news for ya. There are already thousands of children of gay parents
(tens of thousands, at least, if you count children who have one gay
parent) and they seem to be doing fine.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
http://www.timberwoof.com
Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html

 

In article <97b0c37d.0404101827.7114de86@posting.google.com >,
d2004xx@hotmail.com (d2004xx) wrote:

> "Joseph P" <jpribeat@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:<gUVdc.2667$Hj1.112709@twister.southeast.rr.c om>...
> > My parents are a normal, straight couple. I am pretty sure they are
> > more strange than most any gay couple around. Of course, I have only
> > known a few homosexual couples, but my parents had them all beat. I
> > am still seeing shrinks about it. Imagine Kiss, but as a married
> > couple instead of a band. That's my parents.
>
> gay marriage is ok, but with children?? I don't think the children
> would be happy about that....
>
> <snip>

Got news for ya. There are already thousands of children of gay parents
(tens of thousands, at least, if you count children who have one gay
parent) and they seem to be doing fine.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
http://www.timberwoof.com
Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html

 

Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:06:31 +0000 (UTC), a
stranger called by some Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism

>Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
>news:j33g70tv1ht94n3q5fl5ngiheoj1opci8j@4ax.com :

>> No, you state that gays can already get married (infering that you
>> mean to members of the opposite ---.) This sort of restriction, based
>> on race, was struck down by the Supreme Court.
>
>Yet sexual behavior has nothing to do with race.

It's called precident. The precident has been set that marriage is a
fundamental civil right, which is protected by the 14th Amendment.

Sterile people can get married. Prisoners on death row can get
married. People in their 90s can get married. In three states you can
marry a 12 year old girl with her parent's permission. Tell me,
specifically, how same---- marriage will harm the institution of
marriage?
--

Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"

 

Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:06:31 +0000 (UTC), a
stranger called by some Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism

>Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
>news:j33g70tv1ht94n3q5fl5ngiheoj1opci8j@4ax.com :

>> No, you state that gays can already get married (infering that you
>> mean to members of the opposite ---.) This sort of restriction, based
>> on race, was struck down by the Supreme Court.
>
>Yet sexual behavior has nothing to do with race.

It's called precident. The precident has been set that marriage is a
fundamental civil right, which is protected by the 14th Amendment.

Sterile people can get married. Prisoners on death row can get
married. People in their 90s can get married. In three states you can
marry a 12 year old girl with her parent's permission. Tell me,
specifically, how same---- marriage will harm the institution of
marriage?
--

Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"

 

Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:06:31 +0000 (UTC), a
stranger called by some Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism

>Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
>news:j33g70tv1ht94n3q5fl5ngiheoj1opci8j@4ax.com :

>> No, you state that gays can already get married (infering that you
>> mean to members of the opposite ---.) This sort of restriction, based
>> on race, was struck down by the Supreme Court.
>
>Yet sexual behavior has nothing to do with race.

It's called precident. The precident has been set that marriage is a
fundamental civil right, which is protected by the 14th Amendment.

Sterile people can get married. Prisoners on death row can get
married. People in their 90s can get married. In three states you can
marry a 12 year old girl with her parent's permission. Tell me,
specifically, how same---- marriage will harm the institution of
marriage?
--

Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"