TheBeast

I bought a 2008 JK 6 weeks ago, and the change oil light came on after 1500 kms. The oil is low and looks like crud - I'd assumed the dealer changed the oil before the sale, but now I don't know. The engine runs like a charm - it sounds like an electric - so I'm not worried yet. I'll just add oil and change every 5,000 kms as per my normal routine. Thanks for the head's up! I have no complaints with my Beast, but I will keep an eye on it.

boardman

it seems to be a random issue involving internal parts. it didnts start till my jeep past the break in period. then it only got worse. most jeeps seem to be ok its the ones made on friday i guess.lol

JTPhoto JK

I heard there was a batch of 3.8's assembled in Mexico with the slots in the piston rings lined up. I have also heard of many people having their engines replaced under warranty. Dealer must do a leakdown test on each cylinder to find an affected pistons.. If the dealer won't do the leakdown have a different shop do it and have the results documented and signed by said shop...
Some say switching to 5W30 oil will also ease the usage, but if under warranty I would want it fixed.. If not under warranty there are a few places where you can get a slightly used 3.8 for less then $1000.
Unfortunately switching to a different manufacturers engine will cost you a lot more then a new 3.8. Not an easy swap with all the computer control..

rodrick316

see this is WHATS MAKING MY BLOOD BOIL...how can they say this is a NORMAL amount,,,thats 5 quarts of oil per 5000 km,,THEN add on another 5 due at the change,,,thats 200 quarts of oil per 100 000 KMS,,,a ARMY TANK dosent use this much oil,,,PLUS I KNOW when you get up to 130/140000 kms your engines gonna CRAP OUT,,it seems like to me chrysler is doing everything in there power NOT TO HONOR there 100000 power train warrenty...i CANNOT SEE boardman why your dealer wouldnt help you,,,its NO SKIN OFF THERE *** if you get a new engine,,,,your happy you get a new engine,,and there happy becasue they install it on chryslers dime..i think i have it figured out,,,JEEP put out a bunch of jeeps with crappy parts and crappy labour,,and knew if they recalled the jeeps it would cost the company millions,,so they just changed the paper work on the power train warrenty to cover themselves,,,leaving there jeep custumers to foot the bill on 20/30 oil eating jeeps,,,,I THINK IM RIGHT,,maybe i aint,,,but im SMART,,,just not smart enuff to pick the red jeep on the lot,,i picked the yellow 1,,and the red 1 aint got no oil consumption,,,SHOULD HAVE went with red i guess,,,seeing its MY FAULT i picked yellow,,,wish i could have read minds and had xray vision so i could have seen inside the engine,,,i havent measured what mine is burning,,so i cant say for sure,,,but its CLOSE to 1 quart every 1000 kms,,,why dont they just put it up to 3 quarts for every 1000 kms cuz this is NORMAL,,5 quarts per 1000 kms is NOT NORMAL,,even the guys at my dealership said this amount was INSANE

JTPhoto JK

See that's the problem. your dealer is saying it's not right but they blame Chrysler for not covering it instead of taking this to the next level and doing a leakdown test. Find a new dealer or deal with Chrysler directly. If the leakdown test proves (and it will) the faulty assembly Chrysler will replace the engine.

rodrick316

Lifetime Powertrain Warranty Scam? Your Warranty May Mean Nothing - Internal Chrysler Documents Revealed

In additional to blaming consumers whenever possible for engine failures covered under warranty, Chrysler also tells dealers in an internal memo that it is normal for their vehicles to consume up to 1 quart of oil every 1,000 and 1 quart every 750 miles for engines over 50,000 miles! Many engines only hold 4-5 quarts on average where you may be dangerously low on motor oil sooner than you would expect. Chrysler is avoiding honoring warranties for problems such as excessive Oil consumption, which is often an indication of future engine failure. To avoid defective Engine warranty claims, Chrysler sends internal memo to dealers stating that acceptable Oil consumption for Engines below 50,000 miles is one quart per 1,000 miles driven! Acceptable Oil consumption for Chrysler Engines with over 50,000 miles is one quart per 750 miles! For more proof, ask to see the memo at your local dealer

rodrick316

my dealership is monituring my oil consumption as of yesterday,,i have to check my oil and return to the shop when i add on another 1000 kms,,they need documentation to give to chrysler to get the ball rolling according to them,,my worie is that its gonna show im burning 999999.9999% of a quart and i wont fall under warrenty,,IM SO STUPID,,,if i would have REMOTLY knew the word OIL CONSUMPTION even existed i would have NEVER NEVER bought a chrysler...here is WHATS gonna happen<<>>im gonna be burning 1 quart per 1000 kms,,,chrysler isnt going to fix it,,,im gonna dump oil into it until it gets off factory power train warrent,,then its gonna explode,,and im gonna have a jeep i gotta make monthly payments on for 4 more years with NO ENGINE,,,thats whats gonna happen to me....

JTPhoto JK

Chrysler is certainly not the only manufacturer with oil consumption issues. You could have bought a GM and have sloppy pistons or a Ford with rattle valve train.. All manufacturers have their lemons..
None the Less I would be upset too if I were you. Speed this along get a drill powered pump from CTC with a long slim hose and suck an extra 1/2 quart out of the dipstick tube if you have to before you take it in for the check.. I really don't see how monitoring and documenting your oil usage as you outlined is going to prove anything. There is no way it should be using 1qrt in 1000klms In the states they state 1000 mi (1600klm).
Can you not get them to do a leakdown test...? In the end this would be faster for both of you.. Is there not another dealer you can talk to.

deepdiverterry

I remember a few years back my old boss had an oil eating Chevy....they wouldn't do anything so he drained the oil, floorboarded the gas pedal. Amazing how long it run. Anyhow, filled back the oil and flatbedded back to the dealer for a new engine...remember kids...don't do this at home.

TheBeast

Hi again,
There's a technical service bulletin (TSB) from November 7, 2007 about
" 3.8L Engine Oil Seepage Due To Front Timing Cover Surface Porosity" . It's TSB NUMBER: 09-008-07. If you google TSB for your year and model, you can find various sites with the TSBs on such things as paint etching, leaky freedom tops, and others. There might be quite a few things to take to your dealer. It's recommended that you print relevant TSB/recalls and bring them in when you go.