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New Diffs for the Brute
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Wow what a day.....great progress though!! We tackled the assembly of the new rear housing. The day started off pretty slow(from foggy brain syndrome) but once we got on a rooll all went very smoothly.Thanks to xtremexj, t2c2 and crazyYj we have the new BT9XD semi float rear housing is all but done and axles can be ordered for it on Monday!!
These are the same diff housings that Bear TraX 4x4 Outfitters Inc. will be selling out of the new shop!!! :D Some pics for ya Attachment 4552 Attachment 4553 Attachment 4554 Attachment 4555 Attachment 4556 Attachment 4557 Attachment 4558 Attachment 4559 |
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Looks bulletproof.
Any close up pics of the welds? |
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Originally Posted by RiponredTJ
(Post 540596)
Looks bulletproof.
Any close up pics of the welds? Can't wait to release them to the market!! Nope sorry we were to busy workin and weldin to think of that snapped a few as we went....will try maybe on the weekend, with running the shop my stuff is a weekend deal!!!! Bear |
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Where are you going to be located at now Bear?
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Originally Posted by 04WJGuy
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Where are you going to be located at now Bear?
9182 Yellowhead Trail, Edmonton is where I am hangin my hat now. |
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That's some serious lookin' hardware Bear.
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t2c1 and I tackled the front doff today and got alot done. The pinion angle was set at an initial 9 degrees and then the inner c's were welded on with 8 degrees of castor. This should allow a bit of wiggle room for future adjustment in both pinion and castor angles without sacrificing return to center ability at the wheel.
Tommorrow we will finish putting the suspension bracketry on the housing and measure up for front axle shafts. Then on to the cosmetics with a healthy dose of grinding and painting. Thanx T for all the help.... Here are a few pics from the day!! Attachment 4498 [Attachment 4499 Attachment 4500 Attachment 4501 Attachment 4502 Attachment 4503 Attachment 4504 |
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Whatever your planning on putting those under is going to be pretty heavy duty Bear!
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WOW... thats all there is to say...
those things are monsters... what are you putting them under? |
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Originally Posted by CrazyWJ242
(Post 541198)
WOW... thats all there is to say...
those things are monsters... what are you putting them under?
Originally Posted by 04WJGuy
(Post 541185)
Whatever your planning on putting those under is going to be pretty heavy duty Bear!
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Now when is it my turn to wheel it? comeon!!! :beerchug:
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Originally Posted by CrazyWJ242
(Post 541216)
Now when is it my turn to wheel it? comeon!!! :beerchug:
Umm.....ya......ya can wheel with me....but ah.....NO.....LOL!!:beerchug: |
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Turning the Brute into more of a brute. Cool!
Or just making sure you don't get hung up driving over the ex's car in the middle of the night? |
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We managed to get the front housing all but done today. Thanx for the awesome day t2c1 and 86Tincan!!
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Very nice.
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Those look incredible Bear!, I'm going to have to get down to Edmonton so I can see this thing in action.
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Today t2c1 and I put in a nice short day....been a long week and I don't think either one of us had an overabundance of motivation to put a long day in. Non the less we still seen some good progress and the front axle is one step closer to being under the Brute. The fill plug is cleaned up and all the inner welding is complete, we also got a jump on the steering and have the tie rod made up and ready for a good cleaning for paint. The pinion guards and new link ends for the upper control arms in the rear welded up. We took the time to mock up the outer assemblies and measure up for inner axles which I will order up on Monday. All that is left is building the Hydro assist mount hoop on the front diff...assemble her and get it under the Brute.
Just a couple pics today... Attachment 4467 Attachment 4468 Attachment 4469 Attachment 4470 |
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Man, this is quite the cliff hanger.
I can't wait to see the finished product |
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It is going to be AWESOME!!! The pics don't do it justice!!
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How wide is it?
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If I remember correctly the axles are 65" wheel mount to wheel mount. The tires are going to fill out the tube flares nicely, before the flares were a little wide.
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Here is a pic of the Brute behind my rig on our trailer on the way to the unveiling at the Rumble on the Rocks in Kelowna! Both rigs are pretty close too center of the trailer. The new diff's are a little wider yet!
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Originally Posted by t2c1
(Post 541817)
If I remember correctly the axles are 65" wheel mount to wheel mount. The tires are going to fill out the tube flares nicely, before the flares were a little wide.
We ended up at about 65 5/8inch mark to allow the fenders to fill up a little and to eliviate the backspace issues associated with the 17 inch wheels(3.63 with the 15's and about 4.5 with the 17's). Of course a little more steering should be enjoyed from stepping the wms out a little further as well.....every little bit helps!! Just playing with some numbers here and this is what I came up with without a measure stick in hand....these numbers are a best guess of side wall to side wall 78.43 over all width with stock Dana 44(on paper) with 38/15.50/15 tires 80.125 over all width with the new BT9XD set up(on paper) with 38/14.50/17 tires we will see once she is bolted together though as to how close this guess is!!! |
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thats not that bad, how long till you guys put it together and are you going to put it on an RTI ramp?
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Originally Posted by CrazyWJ242
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thats not that bad, how long till you guys put it together and are you going to put it on an RTI ramp?
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thats one sweet looking rig u got there bear wish i could put them axles under my zj
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Originally Posted by swamper
(Post 541908)
thats one sweet looking rig u got there bear wish i could put them axles under my zj
You can have a set of those.....under your ZJ......once we release them to market(very soon) and have solid pricing available......:beerchug: |
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Thats is such a sick rig...
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At least you guy's wern't going "you should see what it can do when the swaybar is disconnected"
The Brute looks great! Can't wait to see it in action, not that I'll be able to keep up with it offroad in my WJ. |
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Originally Posted by 04WJGuy
(Post 541934)
At least you guy's wern't going "you should see what it can do when the swaybar is disconnected"
The Brute looks great! Can't wait to see it in action, not that I'll be able to keep up with it offroad in my WJ. As far as you keepin up....Meh.....don't worry bout that man it is me that has to keep in pace with who ever comes out.....I am not that guy...you know....the one who only does the trails that rigs like his will do. I have just as much fun with any rig profile....just don't wanna be havin to break trail all the time thats all!!:beerchug: |
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Did I call it or what :)
One of these days I'll meet up and wheel with you. Seems like everytime the Edmonton boys schedule something life gets in the way. Edmonton being the halfway point to home doesn't help either. Oh well, one day I'll see that thing in action. |
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Today was a good day!! t2c1 and I have the steering ram mount made and welded in with the ram test fit done all that is left is the sway bar mounts. We have to wait for the steering arm to show up before they can be located and welded in place to ensure there is no interferance with the drag link. So for the most part a good clean up and a paint job away and we can assemble the front for the last time and get it under the Brute.
The rear was simpish....we had to get the brakes mounted up... The brackets needed to be massaged a little to get the calipers to sit properly on the rotors. they are solidly tacked in place and will be welded on with a couple of gussets next week sometime. So as far as the rear is concerned finish weld of the caliper stands, a good cleaning with a coat of black....re assemble and bolt it in... Not Far to wheelin once again.....and lemme tell ya that will be a big relief!!! Attachment 4421 Attachment 4422 Attachment 4423 Attachment 4424 Attachment 4425 Attachment 4426 Attachment 4427 Attachment 4428 Attachment 4429 Attachment 4430 Attachment 4430 Attachment 4432 Attachment 4433 Thanx T for the help!! |
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No problem!! Anytime!! One of these weekends we need to get some stuff done on mine!
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What are you guys putting into this thing gear wise? crawl ratio numbers???
are you guys sealing up the tubes at the ends aswell? i guess your using the 9" up front too, they seem so maintance/swap friendly |
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Originally Posted by CrazyWJ242
(Post 542165)
What gears are you guys putting into this thing gear wise? crawl ratio numbers???
are you guys sealing up the tubes at the ends aswell? i guess your using the 9" up front too, they seem so maintance/swap friendly transfer case low>>>>>>>> 2.97:1 transfer case low/low>>>>> 5.22:1 diff ratio>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5.29:1 Low range CRAWL RATIO>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 62.8:1 Stupid low range CRAWL RATIO>>>>>>>>>> 110.5:1 Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............slow crawlinz rollin on 38/14.50/17 MTR Kevlar's!!!!! Front tube outter ends are still under negotiation......not alot of roon for seals there. Inner tube seals are a custom dual lip deal! Bear |
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Well the best layed intentions of having the front diff assembled and ready to hang under the Jeep hit a snag. We had to rethink the steering and come up with a different design....no biggie just some different parts. We did however get both diffs cleaned up and most of the housing prep done and ready for re assembly......just a few tweeks, brake lines and seals then we can fill them up and sling them into place.....
Just one pic today of the housings on the ground all black and shiny!! Attachment 4412 Thanks t2c1 and 86tincan for all the help!! |
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Well we have had a good couple of days over the holiday season. t2c1, 86tincan and myself have the front diff almost completely assembled and ready to sling in place. The rear diff is ready for assembly and with a good morning of exertion will be ready as well. The steering quandary is rectified and all that is left is the assembly of the tie rod, drag link and track bar/track bar brace.
We ended up changing from a true hi-steer to an inverted T steering set up and notched the sway bar brackets for clearance at full lock...for added security we welded on a 3/16 "doubler plate to the notched section of the sway bar tabs but she looks like it will all work together now. Here are some pics..... Attachment 4373 Attachment 4374 Attachment 4375 Attachment 4376 Attachment 4377 Attachment 4378 Attachment 4379 Attachment 4380 Attachment 4381 Attachment 4382 The "notching on the sway bar mount and the new steering config notice on the bottom pic we also drilled and tapped an adjustable steering stop on the inner c!! Attachment 4383 Attachment 4384 Thanks again for the help guys!! |
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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel!! Hopefully it is not just a car coming the other way!! :alcoholic:
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Well we had a great weekend and between Trahan,Terry, Tony and Myself we have the front and rear diff hangin in the Brute. Brake lines,Track Bar, Drag Link, drive shaft's lenthened, e-brake, Tires/wheels and just a few odds n sods is all that is left....like hill start assist....he he he!!!
Should be back to life soon!! Thanx for all the help this weekend!! Now a few pics Attachment 4326 Attachment 4327 Attachment 4328 Attachment 4329 Attachment 4330 Attachment 4331 [IMG]http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o358/Da_bear_2008/IMG_0681.jpg[/IMG |
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Man, that is a beautiful machine, you Pirate!
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