After a loose broken piece of metal (like a roller bearing with a snapped
end) was found when draining the transmission fluid, I took the TJ in for
service under extended warranty. The dealer found what was wrong and
replaced about $1200 worth of parts in the transmission - at essentially no
cost to me. I thought I was finally getting something for the cost of the
warranty. (and they found a leaking water pump and replaced it under
warranty)

Even though the dealer seems to have overfilled the transmission, because
there was fluid dripping from the mount, muffler, and body, it seemed to be
working OK. However, after a week or so, I noticed that shifting up into
3rd feels like an improper clutch. There is what feels like a one tooth
grind. Shifting up into 2nd was better, but similar. Shifting up into 4th
and 5th feel normal. Down shifting all seems to be synchronized.

I'm about to take it back to get things worked out, but it's a pain to get
it to the dealer 30 miles away. Is there anything I can do to adjust the
clutch linkage or anything else that's not inside of the transmission?
--
Please cc: to Marc.L.Masnor@usace.army.mil

 

I believe if it's shifting properly in through the other gears,
that kind of lets any other adjustment out, they probably save a buck
and put your old sync ring back in for that gear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Marc Masnor wrote:
>
> After a loose broken piece of metal (like a roller bearing with a snapped
> end) was found when draining the transmission fluid, I took the TJ in for
> service under extended warranty. The dealer found what was wrong and
> replaced about $1200 worth of parts in the transmission - at essentially no
> cost to me. I thought I was finally getting something for the cost of the
> warranty. (and they found a leaking water pump and replaced it under
> warranty)
>
> Even though the dealer seems to have overfilled the transmission, because
> there was fluid dripping from the mount, muffler, and body, it seemed to be
> working OK. However, after a week or so, I noticed that shifting up into
> 3rd feels like an improper clutch. There is what feels like a one tooth
> grind. Shifting up into 2nd was better, but similar. Shifting up into 4th
> and 5th feel normal. Down shifting all seems to be synchronized.
>
> I'm about to take it back to get things worked out, but it's a pain to get
> it to the dealer 30 miles away. Is there anything I can do to adjust the
> clutch linkage or anything else that's not inside of the transmission?
> --
> Please cc: to Marc.L.Masnor@usace.army.mil

 

I believe if it's shifting properly in through the other gears,
that kind of lets any other adjustment out, they probably save a buck
and put your old sync ring back in for that gear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Marc Masnor wrote:
>
> After a loose broken piece of metal (like a roller bearing with a snapped
> end) was found when draining the transmission fluid, I took the TJ in for
> service under extended warranty. The dealer found what was wrong and
> replaced about $1200 worth of parts in the transmission - at essentially no
> cost to me. I thought I was finally getting something for the cost of the
> warranty. (and they found a leaking water pump and replaced it under
> warranty)
>
> Even though the dealer seems to have overfilled the transmission, because
> there was fluid dripping from the mount, muffler, and body, it seemed to be
> working OK. However, after a week or so, I noticed that shifting up into
> 3rd feels like an improper clutch. There is what feels like a one tooth
> grind. Shifting up into 2nd was better, but similar. Shifting up into 4th
> and 5th feel normal. Down shifting all seems to be synchronized.
>
> I'm about to take it back to get things worked out, but it's a pain to get
> it to the dealer 30 miles away. Is there anything I can do to adjust the
> clutch linkage or anything else that's not inside of the transmission?
> --
> Please cc: to Marc.L.Masnor@usace.army.mil

 

I believe if it's shifting properly in through the other gears,
that kind of lets any other adjustment out, they probably save a buck
and put your old sync ring back in for that gear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Marc Masnor wrote:
>
> After a loose broken piece of metal (like a roller bearing with a snapped
> end) was found when draining the transmission fluid, I took the TJ in for
> service under extended warranty. The dealer found what was wrong and
> replaced about $1200 worth of parts in the transmission - at essentially no
> cost to me. I thought I was finally getting something for the cost of the
> warranty. (and they found a leaking water pump and replaced it under
> warranty)
>
> Even though the dealer seems to have overfilled the transmission, because
> there was fluid dripping from the mount, muffler, and body, it seemed to be
> working OK. However, after a week or so, I noticed that shifting up into
> 3rd feels like an improper clutch. There is what feels like a one tooth
> grind. Shifting up into 2nd was better, but similar. Shifting up into 4th
> and 5th feel normal. Down shifting all seems to be synchronized.
>
> I'm about to take it back to get things worked out, but it's a pain to get
> it to the dealer 30 miles away. Is there anything I can do to adjust the
> clutch linkage or anything else that's not inside of the transmission?
> --
> Please cc: to Marc.L.Masnor@usace.army.mil

 

Thanks Bill,

I'll ask about the sunc rings when I take it back. I really appreciate the
reply. I didn't want to go through the hassle if all I had to do was adjust
the clutch linkage or something so simple. I'll look at the parts list from
the previous repair and see if it gives enough info to tell what was
replaced.

--
Marc.L.Masnor@usace.army.mil


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415A24B2.E82D524E@***.net...
> I believe if it's shifting properly in through the other gears,
> that kind of lets any other adjustment out, they probably save a buck
> and put your old sync ring back in for that gear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Marc Masnor wrote:
>>
>> After a loose broken piece of metal (like a roller bearing with a snapped
>> end) was found when draining the transmission fluid, I took the TJ in for
>> service under extended warranty. The dealer found what was wrong and
>> replaced about $1200 worth of parts in the transmission - at essentially
>> no
>> cost to me. I thought I was finally getting something for the cost of
>> the
>> warranty. (and they found a leaking water pump and replaced it under
>> warranty)
>>
>> Even though the dealer seems to have overfilled the transmission, because
>> there was fluid dripping from the mount, muffler, and body, it seemed to
>> be
>> working OK. However, after a week or so, I noticed that shifting up into
>> 3rd feels like an improper clutch. There is what feels like a one tooth
>> grind. Shifting up into 2nd was better, but similar. Shifting up into
>> 4th
>> and 5th feel normal. Down shifting all seems to be synchronized.
>>
>> I'm about to take it back to get things worked out, but it's a pain to
>> get
>> it to the dealer 30 miles away. Is there anything I can do to adjust the
>> clutch linkage or anything else that's not inside of the transmission?
>> --
>> Please cc: to Marc.L.Masnor@usace.army.mil

 

Thanks Bill,

I'll ask about the sunc rings when I take it back. I really appreciate the
reply. I didn't want to go through the hassle if all I had to do was adjust
the clutch linkage or something so simple. I'll look at the parts list from
the previous repair and see if it gives enough info to tell what was
replaced.

--
Marc.L.Masnor@usace.army.mil


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415A24B2.E82D524E@***.net...
> I believe if it's shifting properly in through the other gears,
> that kind of lets any other adjustment out, they probably save a buck
> and put your old sync ring back in for that gear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Marc Masnor wrote:
>>
>> After a loose broken piece of metal (like a roller bearing with a snapped
>> end) was found when draining the transmission fluid, I took the TJ in for
>> service under extended warranty. The dealer found what was wrong and
>> replaced about $1200 worth of parts in the transmission - at essentially
>> no
>> cost to me. I thought I was finally getting something for the cost of
>> the
>> warranty. (and they found a leaking water pump and replaced it under
>> warranty)
>>
>> Even though the dealer seems to have overfilled the transmission, because
>> there was fluid dripping from the mount, muffler, and body, it seemed to
>> be
>> working OK. However, after a week or so, I noticed that shifting up into
>> 3rd feels like an improper clutch. There is what feels like a one tooth
>> grind. Shifting up into 2nd was better, but similar. Shifting up into
>> 4th
>> and 5th feel normal. Down shifting all seems to be synchronized.
>>
>> I'm about to take it back to get things worked out, but it's a pain to
>> get
>> it to the dealer 30 miles away. Is there anything I can do to adjust the
>> clutch linkage or anything else that's not inside of the transmission?
>> --
>> Please cc: to Marc.L.Masnor@usace.army.mil

 

Thanks Bill,

I'll ask about the sunc rings when I take it back. I really appreciate the
reply. I didn't want to go through the hassle if all I had to do was adjust
the clutch linkage or something so simple. I'll look at the parts list from
the previous repair and see if it gives enough info to tell what was
replaced.

--
Marc.L.Masnor@usace.army.mil


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415A24B2.E82D524E@***.net...
> I believe if it's shifting properly in through the other gears,
> that kind of lets any other adjustment out, they probably save a buck
> and put your old sync ring back in for that gear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Marc Masnor wrote:
>>
>> After a loose broken piece of metal (like a roller bearing with a snapped
>> end) was found when draining the transmission fluid, I took the TJ in for
>> service under extended warranty. The dealer found what was wrong and
>> replaced about $1200 worth of parts in the transmission - at essentially
>> no
>> cost to me. I thought I was finally getting something for the cost of
>> the
>> warranty. (and they found a leaking water pump and replaced it under
>> warranty)
>>
>> Even though the dealer seems to have overfilled the transmission, because
>> there was fluid dripping from the mount, muffler, and body, it seemed to
>> be
>> working OK. However, after a week or so, I noticed that shifting up into
>> 3rd feels like an improper clutch. There is what feels like a one tooth
>> grind. Shifting up into 2nd was better, but similar. Shifting up into
>> 4th
>> and 5th feel normal. Down shifting all seems to be synchronized.
>>
>> I'm about to take it back to get things worked out, but it's a pain to
>> get
>> it to the dealer 30 miles away. Is there anything I can do to adjust the
>> clutch linkage or anything else that's not inside of the transmission?
>> --
>> Please cc: to Marc.L.Masnor@usace.army.mil

 

This sounds like he put the wrong oil in the trans. DC recommends a
no-sulphur GL3 oil for the NV3550, which is rather expensive but can be
sourced through the dealer. Sulphur in gear oils is great for the gears &
bearings, but causes the synchros to slip excessively, resulting in the
grind you describe. My bet is he put GL5 lube in it. If that's the case,
before you do anythin have it drained and refilled with the proper fluid.


"Marc Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
news:brp6d.2822$gm.2438@okepread07...
> After a loose broken piece of metal (like a roller bearing with a snapped
> end) was found when draining the transmission fluid, I took the TJ in for
> service under extended warranty. The dealer found what was wrong and
> replaced about $1200 worth of parts in the transmission - at essentially
> no cost to me. I thought I was finally getting something for the cost of
> the warranty. (and they found a leaking water pump and replaced it under
> warranty)
>
> Even though the dealer seems to have overfilled the transmission, because
> there was fluid dripping from the mount, muffler, and body, it seemed to
> be working OK. However, after a week or so, I noticed that shifting up
> into 3rd feels like an improper clutch. There is what feels like a one
> tooth grind. Shifting up into 2nd was better, but similar. Shifting up
> into 4th and 5th feel normal. Down shifting all seems to be synchronized.
>
> I'm about to take it back to get things worked out, but it's a pain to get
> it to the dealer 30 miles away. Is there anything I can do to adjust the
> clutch linkage or anything else that's not inside of the transmission?
> --
> Please cc: to Marc.L.Masnor@usace.army.mil
>
>
>

 

This sounds like he put the wrong oil in the trans. DC recommends a
no-sulphur GL3 oil for the NV3550, which is rather expensive but can be
sourced through the dealer. Sulphur in gear oils is great for the gears &
bearings, but causes the synchros to slip excessively, resulting in the
grind you describe. My bet is he put GL5 lube in it. If that's the case,
before you do anythin have it drained and refilled with the proper fluid.


"Marc Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
news:brp6d.2822$gm.2438@okepread07...
> After a loose broken piece of metal (like a roller bearing with a snapped
> end) was found when draining the transmission fluid, I took the TJ in for
> service under extended warranty. The dealer found what was wrong and
> replaced about $1200 worth of parts in the transmission - at essentially
> no cost to me. I thought I was finally getting something for the cost of
> the warranty. (and they found a leaking water pump and replaced it under
> warranty)
>
> Even though the dealer seems to have overfilled the transmission, because
> there was fluid dripping from the mount, muffler, and body, it seemed to
> be working OK. However, after a week or so, I noticed that shifting up
> into 3rd feels like an improper clutch. There is what feels like a one
> tooth grind. Shifting up into 2nd was better, but similar. Shifting up
> into 4th and 5th feel normal. Down shifting all seems to be synchronized.
>
> I'm about to take it back to get things worked out, but it's a pain to get
> it to the dealer 30 miles away. Is there anything I can do to adjust the
> clutch linkage or anything else that's not inside of the transmission?
> --
> Please cc: to Marc.L.Masnor@usace.army.mil
>
>
>

 

This sounds like he put the wrong oil in the trans. DC recommends a
no-sulphur GL3 oil for the NV3550, which is rather expensive but can be
sourced through the dealer. Sulphur in gear oils is great for the gears &
bearings, but causes the synchros to slip excessively, resulting in the
grind you describe. My bet is he put GL5 lube in it. If that's the case,
before you do anythin have it drained and refilled with the proper fluid.


"Marc Masnor" <Masnor@***.net> wrote in message
news:brp6d.2822$gm.2438@okepread07...
> After a loose broken piece of metal (like a roller bearing with a snapped
> end) was found when draining the transmission fluid, I took the TJ in for
> service under extended warranty. The dealer found what was wrong and
> replaced about $1200 worth of parts in the transmission - at essentially
> no cost to me. I thought I was finally getting something for the cost of
> the warranty. (and they found a leaking water pump and replaced it under
> warranty)
>
> Even though the dealer seems to have overfilled the transmission, because
> there was fluid dripping from the mount, muffler, and body, it seemed to
> be working OK. However, after a week or so, I noticed that shifting up
> into 3rd feels like an improper clutch. There is what feels like a one
> tooth grind. Shifting up into 2nd was better, but similar. Shifting up
> into 4th and 5th feel normal. Down shifting all seems to be synchronized.
>
> I'm about to take it back to get things worked out, but it's a pain to get
> it to the dealer 30 miles away. Is there anything I can do to adjust the
> clutch linkage or anything else that's not inside of the transmission?
> --
> Please cc: to Marc.L.Masnor@usace.army.mil
>
>
>