thank you all for the ideas, and feedback here.
i had the work done at a dodge dealer ship in edmonton, and i was not a very plesant customer when they told me what they were doing. maybe they did end up lying to me in the end. i will hwve to go back under and look again. there is something there behind the rear wheel, and i do know i seen the water and fuel in the pails at the shop. the jeep was not that deep in the water, the rear driver side tire was still showing almost half out of the water, but the pass side had spun in the silt and sunk. just the way the bank was there, one side in silt, the other on gravel and i couldnt move. the fan was just touching water. i had pictures, but it was dark and with a cell phone so no detail showed

 

And if you want to get fancy and can find a used Harley mirror, I hear they drop right into that door hinge.

For mounting hardware I just used a piece of aluminum stock lying around, drilled two holes in it, bought a nut and bold and Bob's your uncle. I can slap it on or rip it off in about 30 seconds. Just buy a simple well made mirror so you don't have any vibration issues.

I ran with my doors off from June to October and loved that little mirror. Can't wait to rip off the doors and slap it back on next spring.

 

I can't speak for Jeepadmin but I say welcome and please keep contributing to the forum.

I agree it's not the liveliest Jeep forum around but it is Canadian, it does have a lot of good information, and you don't have to wade through thousands of posts about rigs set up for wheeling in the American southwest to find relevant info about wheeling up here in the Canadian topography.

The more people like you guys we can get to contribute to discussions here, the more relevant the forum will become.

 

I hear they're hard on Jeepers in your neck of the woods. I feel your pain.

 

Well thanks for the welcome. I'll contribute where and when I think it will be usefull. I like that it's a Canadian forum too.

Cheers