a few questions
11-30-2009, 11:56 PM
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a few questions
hello. i have an 04 rocky mountain tj. it is still stock, with a few badges to make it unique
i had an encounter in water, and the worst part was that my passenger side rear wheel was the one that was deep. that being said, the fuel system sucked the water up and into the fuel tank. what is being done on the trail rigs to prevent this from happening?
another question is, does anyone have any pictures for mirror relocator kits? i am thinking of making a bush guard and making some mounts up front, so the mirrors look right down the sides,just over the fenders
i had an encounter in water, and the worst part was that my passenger side rear wheel was the one that was deep. that being said, the fuel system sucked the water up and into the fuel tank. what is being done on the trail rigs to prevent this from happening?
another question is, does anyone have any pictures for mirror relocator kits? i am thinking of making a bush guard and making some mounts up front, so the mirrors look right down the sides,just over the fenders
12-03-2009, 06:27 PM
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Re: a few questions
The fuel pump and sending unit in a Jeep TJ are inside the gas tank which for obvious reasons is fully sealed.
While it may be possible to get some water in through the venting system in the filler cap this is really unlikely. You'd have to be in water that is over the hood deep. I that case getting water in your air intake would be much greater concern then a little bit of water in your fuel.
What i would be most concerned about in your situation is that water probably got sucked in through your differential breather hoses, unless you have already lenghtened them. Water in your differential gear oil is certainly not a good thing.
12-03-2009, 08:10 PM
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Re: a few questions
^^ X2 ^^
You can run your Jeep with the tail pipe immersed in water all day and you shouldn't have any problems. What you're saying makes no sense with the info you provided.
And why would you even consider doing something as crazy as that with your mirrors???
You can run your Jeep with the tail pipe immersed in water all day and you shouldn't have any problems. What you're saying makes no sense with the info you provided.
And why would you even consider doing something as crazy as that with your mirrors???
12-04-2009, 02:54 AM
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Re: a few questions
thank you RIPONREDTJ
the 04 tj as mine is has a non venting cap. there is a pump located behind the rear tire on the pasanger side that regulates presure in the tank. this was nessary to lower emissions from around the filler cap area.( this is what has been told to me by the techs)
as far as what had me think i had water in the tank.... i didnt think i had water and i made them prove it to me befor i payed. they showed me the fuel, and water mixed that they emptied from the tank, and they showed me video of the process. there was a lot of river sidement in the fuel, and i know it was from the river
i changed the fluids in the diffs( which were good, as far as having water in them) and i changed the fluids in the transmition and t-case(both of which had waterin them) but the engin didnt run right, and the check engine light came on. it threw lots of codes. i had ruined spark plugs, and an 02 sensor had to be replaced. then they tuned it up. ran good again after
as far as the mirrors....well. i hear it is illegal to run with out at least one side mirror, and i like to have 2
my jeep runs so hot in the interior that i would like to be able to take the doors off. problem i see with this is when the doors go back on, all locations i can think of putting the mirrors will hit the doors when the doors are fully open. i dont want to have to change from relocator and then back to door mirrors just to take the doors off
thank you for actually responding here, it seems that there is not a lot of activity in this forum
the 04 tj as mine is has a non venting cap. there is a pump located behind the rear tire on the pasanger side that regulates presure in the tank. this was nessary to lower emissions from around the filler cap area.( this is what has been told to me by the techs)
as far as what had me think i had water in the tank.... i didnt think i had water and i made them prove it to me befor i payed. they showed me the fuel, and water mixed that they emptied from the tank, and they showed me video of the process. there was a lot of river sidement in the fuel, and i know it was from the river
i changed the fluids in the diffs( which were good, as far as having water in them) and i changed the fluids in the transmition and t-case(both of which had waterin them) but the engin didnt run right, and the check engine light came on. it threw lots of codes. i had ruined spark plugs, and an 02 sensor had to be replaced. then they tuned it up. ran good again after
as far as the mirrors....well. i hear it is illegal to run with out at least one side mirror, and i like to have 2
my jeep runs so hot in the interior that i would like to be able to take the doors off. problem i see with this is when the doors go back on, all locations i can think of putting the mirrors will hit the doors when the doors are fully open. i dont want to have to change from relocator and then back to door mirrors just to take the doors off
thank you for actually responding here, it seems that there is not a lot of activity in this forum
12-04-2009, 03:00 AM
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Re: a few questions
KELONALUKE, thank you for the response also
let me know if my above makes sence. i didnt believe the techs either. but the engine was rough running, missing,and as i was taking it in, it would not rev very high. the plugs they replaced were .... i dont know how to describe them, really wide ------ from the steam. i am actually supprised it ran on them. must have been the other 4 that wernt as bad that kept it running till it got to the shop
let me know if my above makes sence. i didnt believe the techs either. but the engine was rough running, missing,and as i was taking it in, it would not rev very high. the plugs they replaced were .... i dont know how to describe them, really wide ------ from the steam. i am actually supprised it ran on them. must have been the other 4 that wernt as bad that kept it running till it got to the shop
12-04-2009, 03:13 PM
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Re: a few questions
I don't even know where to start here you are raising alot of issues at once....
I have not heard of this before, so I can't comment on how accurate this is. However if there is a "pump" located outside the tank on your tj you can be sure that it is not sucking anything into your fuel. This makes no sense. Whether you offroad your Jeep or not such a system would constantly be contaminating the fuel. Period.
Where do you take your jeep for repairs that they provide you with video of the work being done????? Sorry man I don't mean to be rude but this just sounds like a load of BS
Changing fluids was definitely a good idea. But it sounds like you were throwing codes for some other reason other then water. IMO.
As for the mirrors, i mount a single driver side mirror on the upper door hinge and remove it when i want to put the doors on. If you take the new mirrors off when you put the doors back on then there should be no problems with interference. Unless ofcourse you want to have two sets of mirrors at once..... :/
No problem. I agree this forum is pretty dead... thats why i figured i would contribute.
thank you RIPONREDTJ
the 04 tj as mine is has a non venting cap. there is a pump located behind the rear tire on the pasanger side that regulates presure in the tank. this was nessary to lower emissions from around the filler cap area.( this is what has been told to me by the techs)
the 04 tj as mine is has a non venting cap. there is a pump located behind the rear tire on the pasanger side that regulates presure in the tank. this was nessary to lower emissions from around the filler cap area.( this is what has been told to me by the techs)
as far as what had me think i had water in the tank.... i didnt think i had water and i made them prove it to me befor i payed. they showed me the fuel, and water mixed that they emptied from the tank, and they showed me video of the process. there was a lot of river sidement in the fuel, and i know it was from the river
i changed the fluids in the diffs( which were good, as far as having water in them) and i changed the fluids in the transmition and t-case(both of which had waterin them) but the engin didnt run right, and the check engine light came on. it threw lots of codes. i had ruined spark plugs, and an 02 sensor had to be replaced. then they tuned it up. ran good again after
as far as the mirrors....well. i hear it is illegal to run with out at least one side mirror, and i like to have 2
my jeep runs so hot in the interior that i would like to be able to take the doors off. problem i see with this is when the doors go back on, all locations i can think of putting the mirrors will hit the doors when the doors are fully open. i dont want to have to change from relocator and then back to door mirrors just to take the doors off
my jeep runs so hot in the interior that i would like to be able to take the doors off. problem i see with this is when the doors go back on, all locations i can think of putting the mirrors will hit the doors when the doors are fully open. i dont want to have to change from relocator and then back to door mirrors just to take the doors off
No problem. I agree this forum is pretty dead... thats why i figured i would contribute.
12-04-2009, 03:15 PM
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Re: a few questions
