ZJ steering problem..
#21
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Re: ZJ steering problem..
Your complaint seems to be common. There seems to be an issue with the
center differential....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Snow wrote:
>
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend trip
> with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this as an
> intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen all the
> time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can feel
> the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it almost
> impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
center differential....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Snow wrote:
>
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend trip
> with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this as an
> intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen all the
> time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can feel
> the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it almost
> impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
#22
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Posts: n/a
Re: ZJ steering problem..
Your complaint seems to be common. There seems to be an issue with the
center differential....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Snow wrote:
>
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend trip
> with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this as an
> intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen all the
> time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can feel
> the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it almost
> impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
center differential....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Snow wrote:
>
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend trip
> with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this as an
> intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen all the
> time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can feel
> the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it almost
> impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
#23
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Posts: n/a
Re: ZJ steering problem..
Well I found the front diff fluid was dark and stinky (like old burnt fluid)
so I changed that today, next I'll be checking / changing the t-case fluid..
anyone know off hand what size the plugs are on the t-case? Other then
being metric.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Ut%Xf.476$sh3.30962@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend
> trip with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this
> as an intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen
> all the time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can
> feel the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it
> almost impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
>
so I changed that today, next I'll be checking / changing the t-case fluid..
anyone know off hand what size the plugs are on the t-case? Other then
being metric.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Ut%Xf.476$sh3.30962@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend
> trip with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this
> as an intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen
> all the time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can
> feel the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it
> almost impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
>
#24
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Posts: n/a
Re: ZJ steering problem..
Well I found the front diff fluid was dark and stinky (like old burnt fluid)
so I changed that today, next I'll be checking / changing the t-case fluid..
anyone know off hand what size the plugs are on the t-case? Other then
being metric.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Ut%Xf.476$sh3.30962@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend
> trip with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this
> as an intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen
> all the time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can
> feel the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it
> almost impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
>
so I changed that today, next I'll be checking / changing the t-case fluid..
anyone know off hand what size the plugs are on the t-case? Other then
being metric.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Ut%Xf.476$sh3.30962@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend
> trip with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this
> as an intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen
> all the time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can
> feel the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it
> almost impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
>
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: ZJ steering problem..
Well I found the front diff fluid was dark and stinky (like old burnt fluid)
so I changed that today, next I'll be checking / changing the t-case fluid..
anyone know off hand what size the plugs are on the t-case? Other then
being metric.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Ut%Xf.476$sh3.30962@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend
> trip with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this
> as an intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen
> all the time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can
> feel the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it
> almost impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
>
so I changed that today, next I'll be checking / changing the t-case fluid..
anyone know off hand what size the plugs are on the t-case? Other then
being metric.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Ut%Xf.476$sh3.30962@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend
> trip with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this
> as an intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen
> all the time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can
> feel the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it
> almost impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
>
#26
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Re: ZJ steering problem..
Snow did pass the time by typing:
> Well I found the front diff fluid was dark and stinky (like old burnt fluid)
> so I changed that today, next I'll be checking / changing the t-case fluid..
> anyone know off hand what size the plugs are on the t-case? Other then
> being metric.
"BIG" 1 3/16 inch specialty socket from Strap-On ..er.. Snap-On. :]
is what I use (probably metric but it fits well enough)
Changing fluid is semi-simple.
While your out buying two quarts of fluid get a 2ft piece of
clear 1/4" id plastic hose. (instructions later)
1) put pan under the lower bolt, on top of a lot of paper or a larger tub
if it's windy.
2) loosen both bolts and then remove the bottom
one first, carefully so the atf doesn't blast
all over you. :) By the way, if you take the
top fill bolt out first it's just like shotgunning
a beer.....mmmm..beer...
3) replace lower plug and wipe up the mess, wring out your t-shirt..etc.
now to get that fluid to run up-hill....
Now for that bit of clear hose.
take the cap off and poke a hole in it slightly smaller than
the hose. Your going to thread the hose through that hole and
down into the bottle so you can squeeze the bottle and force the
fluid up the hose. Save this doodad, it comes in handy and
you can cap off the remaining fluid with a golf-T or bolt.
4) once fluid comes out the top hole, your done. put the
plug back in and wipe up the mess. :)
1.6 quarts, Mopar ATF Plus/Type 7176/ Dexron II or compatible.
The plugs go to 35 ft.lbs
--
DougW
> Well I found the front diff fluid was dark and stinky (like old burnt fluid)
> so I changed that today, next I'll be checking / changing the t-case fluid..
> anyone know off hand what size the plugs are on the t-case? Other then
> being metric.
"BIG" 1 3/16 inch specialty socket from Strap-On ..er.. Snap-On. :]
is what I use (probably metric but it fits well enough)
Changing fluid is semi-simple.
While your out buying two quarts of fluid get a 2ft piece of
clear 1/4" id plastic hose. (instructions later)
1) put pan under the lower bolt, on top of a lot of paper or a larger tub
if it's windy.
2) loosen both bolts and then remove the bottom
one first, carefully so the atf doesn't blast
all over you. :) By the way, if you take the
top fill bolt out first it's just like shotgunning
a beer.....mmmm..beer...
3) replace lower plug and wipe up the mess, wring out your t-shirt..etc.
now to get that fluid to run up-hill....
Now for that bit of clear hose.
take the cap off and poke a hole in it slightly smaller than
the hose. Your going to thread the hose through that hole and
down into the bottle so you can squeeze the bottle and force the
fluid up the hose. Save this doodad, it comes in handy and
you can cap off the remaining fluid with a golf-T or bolt.
4) once fluid comes out the top hole, your done. put the
plug back in and wipe up the mess. :)
1.6 quarts, Mopar ATF Plus/Type 7176/ Dexron II or compatible.
The plugs go to 35 ft.lbs
--
DougW
#27
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Posts: n/a
Re: ZJ steering problem..
Snow did pass the time by typing:
> Well I found the front diff fluid was dark and stinky (like old burnt fluid)
> so I changed that today, next I'll be checking / changing the t-case fluid..
> anyone know off hand what size the plugs are on the t-case? Other then
> being metric.
"BIG" 1 3/16 inch specialty socket from Strap-On ..er.. Snap-On. :]
is what I use (probably metric but it fits well enough)
Changing fluid is semi-simple.
While your out buying two quarts of fluid get a 2ft piece of
clear 1/4" id plastic hose. (instructions later)
1) put pan under the lower bolt, on top of a lot of paper or a larger tub
if it's windy.
2) loosen both bolts and then remove the bottom
one first, carefully so the atf doesn't blast
all over you. :) By the way, if you take the
top fill bolt out first it's just like shotgunning
a beer.....mmmm..beer...
3) replace lower plug and wipe up the mess, wring out your t-shirt..etc.
now to get that fluid to run up-hill....
Now for that bit of clear hose.
take the cap off and poke a hole in it slightly smaller than
the hose. Your going to thread the hose through that hole and
down into the bottle so you can squeeze the bottle and force the
fluid up the hose. Save this doodad, it comes in handy and
you can cap off the remaining fluid with a golf-T or bolt.
4) once fluid comes out the top hole, your done. put the
plug back in and wipe up the mess. :)
1.6 quarts, Mopar ATF Plus/Type 7176/ Dexron II or compatible.
The plugs go to 35 ft.lbs
--
DougW
> Well I found the front diff fluid was dark and stinky (like old burnt fluid)
> so I changed that today, next I'll be checking / changing the t-case fluid..
> anyone know off hand what size the plugs are on the t-case? Other then
> being metric.
"BIG" 1 3/16 inch specialty socket from Strap-On ..er.. Snap-On. :]
is what I use (probably metric but it fits well enough)
Changing fluid is semi-simple.
While your out buying two quarts of fluid get a 2ft piece of
clear 1/4" id plastic hose. (instructions later)
1) put pan under the lower bolt, on top of a lot of paper or a larger tub
if it's windy.
2) loosen both bolts and then remove the bottom
one first, carefully so the atf doesn't blast
all over you. :) By the way, if you take the
top fill bolt out first it's just like shotgunning
a beer.....mmmm..beer...
3) replace lower plug and wipe up the mess, wring out your t-shirt..etc.
now to get that fluid to run up-hill....
Now for that bit of clear hose.
take the cap off and poke a hole in it slightly smaller than
the hose. Your going to thread the hose through that hole and
down into the bottle so you can squeeze the bottle and force the
fluid up the hose. Save this doodad, it comes in handy and
you can cap off the remaining fluid with a golf-T or bolt.
4) once fluid comes out the top hole, your done. put the
plug back in and wipe up the mess. :)
1.6 quarts, Mopar ATF Plus/Type 7176/ Dexron II or compatible.
The plugs go to 35 ft.lbs
--
DougW
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ZJ steering problem..
Snow did pass the time by typing:
> Well I found the front diff fluid was dark and stinky (like old burnt fluid)
> so I changed that today, next I'll be checking / changing the t-case fluid..
> anyone know off hand what size the plugs are on the t-case? Other then
> being metric.
"BIG" 1 3/16 inch specialty socket from Strap-On ..er.. Snap-On. :]
is what I use (probably metric but it fits well enough)
Changing fluid is semi-simple.
While your out buying two quarts of fluid get a 2ft piece of
clear 1/4" id plastic hose. (instructions later)
1) put pan under the lower bolt, on top of a lot of paper or a larger tub
if it's windy.
2) loosen both bolts and then remove the bottom
one first, carefully so the atf doesn't blast
all over you. :) By the way, if you take the
top fill bolt out first it's just like shotgunning
a beer.....mmmm..beer...
3) replace lower plug and wipe up the mess, wring out your t-shirt..etc.
now to get that fluid to run up-hill....
Now for that bit of clear hose.
take the cap off and poke a hole in it slightly smaller than
the hose. Your going to thread the hose through that hole and
down into the bottle so you can squeeze the bottle and force the
fluid up the hose. Save this doodad, it comes in handy and
you can cap off the remaining fluid with a golf-T or bolt.
4) once fluid comes out the top hole, your done. put the
plug back in and wipe up the mess. :)
1.6 quarts, Mopar ATF Plus/Type 7176/ Dexron II or compatible.
The plugs go to 35 ft.lbs
--
DougW
> Well I found the front diff fluid was dark and stinky (like old burnt fluid)
> so I changed that today, next I'll be checking / changing the t-case fluid..
> anyone know off hand what size the plugs are on the t-case? Other then
> being metric.
"BIG" 1 3/16 inch specialty socket from Strap-On ..er.. Snap-On. :]
is what I use (probably metric but it fits well enough)
Changing fluid is semi-simple.
While your out buying two quarts of fluid get a 2ft piece of
clear 1/4" id plastic hose. (instructions later)
1) put pan under the lower bolt, on top of a lot of paper or a larger tub
if it's windy.
2) loosen both bolts and then remove the bottom
one first, carefully so the atf doesn't blast
all over you. :) By the way, if you take the
top fill bolt out first it's just like shotgunning
a beer.....mmmm..beer...
3) replace lower plug and wipe up the mess, wring out your t-shirt..etc.
now to get that fluid to run up-hill....
Now for that bit of clear hose.
take the cap off and poke a hole in it slightly smaller than
the hose. Your going to thread the hose through that hole and
down into the bottle so you can squeeze the bottle and force the
fluid up the hose. Save this doodad, it comes in handy and
you can cap off the remaining fluid with a golf-T or bolt.
4) once fluid comes out the top hole, your done. put the
plug back in and wipe up the mess. :)
1.6 quarts, Mopar ATF Plus/Type 7176/ Dexron II or compatible.
The plugs go to 35 ft.lbs
--
DougW
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ZJ steering problem..
Ok have managed to change the t-case fluid as well, this was accomplished
with only minor spillage and only required two rags to control the run off
and overflow. Didn't have to change my clothes 1/2 way through the job
(thanks to the warning). I have yet to actually take the beast on a drive
to see if the fluid changes will make the tight steering problem go away,
once I do I'll post the results. Thanks again for the info.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Ut%Xf.476$sh3.30962@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend
> trip with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this
> as an intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen
> all the time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can
> feel the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it
> almost impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
>
with only minor spillage and only required two rags to control the run off
and overflow. Didn't have to change my clothes 1/2 way through the job
(thanks to the warning). I have yet to actually take the beast on a drive
to see if the fluid changes will make the tight steering problem go away,
once I do I'll post the results. Thanks again for the info.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Ut%Xf.476$sh3.30962@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend
> trip with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this
> as an intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen
> all the time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can
> feel the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it
> almost impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
>
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ZJ steering problem..
Ok have managed to change the t-case fluid as well, this was accomplished
with only minor spillage and only required two rags to control the run off
and overflow. Didn't have to change my clothes 1/2 way through the job
(thanks to the warning). I have yet to actually take the beast on a drive
to see if the fluid changes will make the tight steering problem go away,
once I do I'll post the results. Thanks again for the info.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Ut%Xf.476$sh3.30962@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend
> trip with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this
> as an intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen
> all the time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can
> feel the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it
> almost impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
>
with only minor spillage and only required two rags to control the run off
and overflow. Didn't have to change my clothes 1/2 way through the job
(thanks to the warning). I have yet to actually take the beast on a drive
to see if the fluid changes will make the tight steering problem go away,
once I do I'll post the results. Thanks again for the info.
Snow...
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Ut%Xf.476$sh3.30962@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Ok well after what I was hoping to be a completely problem free weekend
> trip with the ZJ, It NOW has a problem... well it has slightly had this
> as an intermittent problem for awhile but this weekend it seemed to happen
> all the time.
>
> The problem: when turning in parking lots or at slow speeds, you can
> feel the front wheels binding (unless they can slip on sand), making it
> almost impossible to make tight turns..
>
> Before someone asks... it's a 93 ZJ with "full time 4wd", so yes its
> selected to 4wd..
>
> It behaves just like my (soon to be retired) XJ does when it is left in
> 4wheel high and driven on dry surfaces. Which as far as I know the ZJ
> should not behave this way.
>
> Any help will be welcomed
>
> Snow...
>