Buy American. Buy local. What's wrong with that message? NOTHING.

"Racial slur"?!! Your head is so far up your *ss it's not funny. Don't
push your 'politically correct' liberal guilt trip upon those of us who want
to buy American and keep America working.

Every vehicle I own was manufactured in this country, and I'm damn proud of
my support of our economy.

Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O

"Karl Norrena" <knorrena@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:gpt74059ovtibm329jb8ithecf4vfcm6bt@4ax.com...
> Bill,
>
> I was unfortunately surprised by your response to this post.
> As I recall from the charter, this is not the forum for racial or
> political slurs. I for one would appreciate you refraining from these
> types of comments. I see this forum as a safe place to ask seasoned
> jeepers advice on Jeeps and Jeeping, and I hope that it will always
> stay this way. I hope that you share this view.
>
> Karl
>
>
>
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:05:19 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Some little Japanese family will thank you for taking food from an
> >American's month to give to theirs.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Timo wrote:
> >>
> >> any body using 33s and happy with them? Other suggestions?
>

 

Buy American. Buy local. What's wrong with that message? NOTHING.

"Racial slur"?!! Your head is so far up your *ss it's not funny. Don't
push your 'politically correct' liberal guilt trip upon those of us who want
to buy American and keep America working.

Every vehicle I own was manufactured in this country, and I'm damn proud of
my support of our economy.

Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O

"Karl Norrena" <knorrena@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:gpt74059ovtibm329jb8ithecf4vfcm6bt@4ax.com...
> Bill,
>
> I was unfortunately surprised by your response to this post.
> As I recall from the charter, this is not the forum for racial or
> political slurs. I for one would appreciate you refraining from these
> types of comments. I see this forum as a safe place to ask seasoned
> jeepers advice on Jeeps and Jeeping, and I hope that it will always
> stay this way. I hope that you share this view.
>
> Karl
>
>
>
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:05:19 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Some little Japanese family will thank you for taking food from an
> >American's month to give to theirs.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Timo wrote:
> >>
> >> any body using 33s and happy with them? Other suggestions?
>

 

Buy American. Buy local. What's wrong with that message? NOTHING.

"Racial slur"?!! Your head is so far up your *ss it's not funny. Don't
push your 'politically correct' liberal guilt trip upon those of us who want
to buy American and keep America working.

Every vehicle I own was manufactured in this country, and I'm damn proud of
my support of our economy.

Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O

"Karl Norrena" <knorrena@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:gpt74059ovtibm329jb8ithecf4vfcm6bt@4ax.com...
> Bill,
>
> I was unfortunately surprised by your response to this post.
> As I recall from the charter, this is not the forum for racial or
> political slurs. I for one would appreciate you refraining from these
> types of comments. I see this forum as a safe place to ask seasoned
> jeepers advice on Jeeps and Jeeping, and I hope that it will always
> stay this way. I hope that you share this view.
>
> Karl
>
>
>
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:05:19 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Some little Japanese family will thank you for taking food from an
> >American's month to give to theirs.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Timo wrote:
> >>
> >> any body using 33s and happy with them? Other suggestions?
>

 

Hold it. I am not making any comments against buying local to support
local economy. I am all for it. I didnt even want to **** anyone off
either. I was just pointing out that we are not in America here. We
are on the internet and our rights are dictated by the charter for the
newsgroup not by physical location and none of us has the right to
violate the charter.

I was only asking Bill to refrain from making the type of comment he
did in the future. I was aking as a gentlemen, and between gentlemen.
I hold Bill's Jeep knowledge in high regard. I have used his website
as a resource on many occasions. Its a great site. Everyone should
visit it. Bill, you have saved me some cash already and I thank you
for that.

I would like to bury this thread and move on to discussions about
Jeeping. We all need it. This is one of the few places that someone
can escape from the type of crap that puts us all in a tail spin. I
did not want to lose this place that I come to to unwind so I said
something to preserve it. I was just trying to keep a little decorum.
You all got really pissed at that chump that tried to sell softtops
and pushed him out. That was the right thing to do. I stand behind my
request, I think that it was the right thing to do.

In retrospect, I should have ignored Bill's comment. After all it was
my decision to read it, interpret it the way I did, and respond.
Frankly, I dont want to screw myself out of a valuable resource here,
but I doubt that there is anything I can say to recover. All I ask is
that we agree to disagree. If you dont want to there is nothing that
can be done. I will continue to lurk and ask the odd question here and
there. Feel free to ignore me if you wish.

I dont plan on responding to this particular thread anymore, and I am
hoping that we can all drop it as a topic.

Karl


On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 04:01:04 GMT, "cactuscowboy"
<cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:

>Buy American. Buy local. What's wrong with that message? NOTHING.
>
>"Racial slur"?!! Your head is so far up your *ss it's not funny. Don't
>push your 'politically correct' liberal guilt trip upon those of us who want
>to buy American and keep America working.
>
>Every vehicle I own was manufactured in this country, and I'm damn proud of
>my support of our economy.
>
>Best regards,
>Dave Rose
>Cactus Cowboy
>Big Wonderful Wyoming
>'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
>'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
>'98 XJ Sport
>O|||||||O
>
>"Karl Norrena" <knorrena@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>news:gpt74059ovtibm329jb8ithecf4vfcm6bt@4ax.com.. .
>> Bill,
>>
>> I was unfortunately surprised by your response to this post.
>> As I recall from the charter, this is not the forum for racial or
>> political slurs. I for one would appreciate you refraining from these
>> types of comments. I see this forum as a safe place to ask seasoned
>> jeepers advice on Jeeps and Jeeping, and I hope that it will always
>> stay this way. I hope that you share this view.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:05:19 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Some little Japanese family will thank you for taking food from an
>> >American's month to give to theirs.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Timo wrote:
>> >>
>> >> any body using 33s and happy with them? Other suggestions?
>>
>

 

Hold it. I am not making any comments against buying local to support
local economy. I am all for it. I didnt even want to **** anyone off
either. I was just pointing out that we are not in America here. We
are on the internet and our rights are dictated by the charter for the
newsgroup not by physical location and none of us has the right to
violate the charter.

I was only asking Bill to refrain from making the type of comment he
did in the future. I was aking as a gentlemen, and between gentlemen.
I hold Bill's Jeep knowledge in high regard. I have used his website
as a resource on many occasions. Its a great site. Everyone should
visit it. Bill, you have saved me some cash already and I thank you
for that.

I would like to bury this thread and move on to discussions about
Jeeping. We all need it. This is one of the few places that someone
can escape from the type of crap that puts us all in a tail spin. I
did not want to lose this place that I come to to unwind so I said
something to preserve it. I was just trying to keep a little decorum.
You all got really pissed at that chump that tried to sell softtops
and pushed him out. That was the right thing to do. I stand behind my
request, I think that it was the right thing to do.

In retrospect, I should have ignored Bill's comment. After all it was
my decision to read it, interpret it the way I did, and respond.
Frankly, I dont want to screw myself out of a valuable resource here,
but I doubt that there is anything I can say to recover. All I ask is
that we agree to disagree. If you dont want to there is nothing that
can be done. I will continue to lurk and ask the odd question here and
there. Feel free to ignore me if you wish.

I dont plan on responding to this particular thread anymore, and I am
hoping that we can all drop it as a topic.

Karl


On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 04:01:04 GMT, "cactuscowboy"
<cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:

>Buy American. Buy local. What's wrong with that message? NOTHING.
>
>"Racial slur"?!! Your head is so far up your *ss it's not funny. Don't
>push your 'politically correct' liberal guilt trip upon those of us who want
>to buy American and keep America working.
>
>Every vehicle I own was manufactured in this country, and I'm damn proud of
>my support of our economy.
>
>Best regards,
>Dave Rose
>Cactus Cowboy
>Big Wonderful Wyoming
>'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
>'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
>'98 XJ Sport
>O|||||||O
>
>"Karl Norrena" <knorrena@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>news:gpt74059ovtibm329jb8ithecf4vfcm6bt@4ax.com.. .
>> Bill,
>>
>> I was unfortunately surprised by your response to this post.
>> As I recall from the charter, this is not the forum for racial or
>> political slurs. I for one would appreciate you refraining from these
>> types of comments. I see this forum as a safe place to ask seasoned
>> jeepers advice on Jeeps and Jeeping, and I hope that it will always
>> stay this way. I hope that you share this view.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:05:19 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Some little Japanese family will thank you for taking food from an
>> >American's month to give to theirs.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Timo wrote:
>> >>
>> >> any body using 33s and happy with them? Other suggestions?
>>
>

 

Hold it. I am not making any comments against buying local to support
local economy. I am all for it. I didnt even want to **** anyone off
either. I was just pointing out that we are not in America here. We
are on the internet and our rights are dictated by the charter for the
newsgroup not by physical location and none of us has the right to
violate the charter.

I was only asking Bill to refrain from making the type of comment he
did in the future. I was aking as a gentlemen, and between gentlemen.
I hold Bill's Jeep knowledge in high regard. I have used his website
as a resource on many occasions. Its a great site. Everyone should
visit it. Bill, you have saved me some cash already and I thank you
for that.

I would like to bury this thread and move on to discussions about
Jeeping. We all need it. This is one of the few places that someone
can escape from the type of crap that puts us all in a tail spin. I
did not want to lose this place that I come to to unwind so I said
something to preserve it. I was just trying to keep a little decorum.
You all got really pissed at that chump that tried to sell softtops
and pushed him out. That was the right thing to do. I stand behind my
request, I think that it was the right thing to do.

In retrospect, I should have ignored Bill's comment. After all it was
my decision to read it, interpret it the way I did, and respond.
Frankly, I dont want to screw myself out of a valuable resource here,
but I doubt that there is anything I can say to recover. All I ask is
that we agree to disagree. If you dont want to there is nothing that
can be done. I will continue to lurk and ask the odd question here and
there. Feel free to ignore me if you wish.

I dont plan on responding to this particular thread anymore, and I am
hoping that we can all drop it as a topic.

Karl


On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 04:01:04 GMT, "cactuscowboy"
<cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:

>Buy American. Buy local. What's wrong with that message? NOTHING.
>
>"Racial slur"?!! Your head is so far up your *ss it's not funny. Don't
>push your 'politically correct' liberal guilt trip upon those of us who want
>to buy American and keep America working.
>
>Every vehicle I own was manufactured in this country, and I'm damn proud of
>my support of our economy.
>
>Best regards,
>Dave Rose
>Cactus Cowboy
>Big Wonderful Wyoming
>'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
>'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
>'98 XJ Sport
>O|||||||O
>
>"Karl Norrena" <knorrena@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>news:gpt74059ovtibm329jb8ithecf4vfcm6bt@4ax.com.. .
>> Bill,
>>
>> I was unfortunately surprised by your response to this post.
>> As I recall from the charter, this is not the forum for racial or
>> political slurs. I for one would appreciate you refraining from these
>> types of comments. I see this forum as a safe place to ask seasoned
>> jeepers advice on Jeeps and Jeeping, and I hope that it will always
>> stay this way. I hope that you share this view.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:05:19 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Some little Japanese family will thank you for taking food from an
>> >American's month to give to theirs.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Timo wrote:
>> >>
>> >> any body using 33s and happy with them? Other suggestions?
>>
>

 

Some things that could be discussed....

-Jeep/****** history
-repairs and modifications
-parts exchange
-technical information
-4x4 driving experiences
-vehicle restoration
-new vehicle evaluations

Some things that shouldn't be discussed....

-4 wheel drive vehicles made by
other manufacturers
-commercial posts

The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
but not vise versa.
ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

 

Some things that could be discussed....

-Jeep/****** history
-repairs and modifications
-parts exchange
-technical information
-4x4 driving experiences
-vehicle restoration
-new vehicle evaluations

Some things that shouldn't be discussed....

-4 wheel drive vehicles made by
other manufacturers
-commercial posts

The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
but not vise versa.
ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

 

Some things that could be discussed....

-Jeep/****** history
-repairs and modifications
-parts exchange
-technical information
-4x4 driving experiences
-vehicle restoration
-new vehicle evaluations

Some things that shouldn't be discussed....

-4 wheel drive vehicles made by
other manufacturers
-commercial posts

The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to Usenet
but not vise versa.
ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+******
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

 

But this IS a discussion group, and things slightly OT that interest us are
still fair game.
E.G., the "Buy American" issue.
I would love to be able to support my country by making sure that everything
I buy is made here. It's not possible.
The FTC has some guidlines,
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/madeusa.htm , but it's not
really accurate.
Is a Toshiba television, made in San Diego (Otay Mesa), California, by
Mexican Nationals who legally cross the border to work, an American TV?
Is a Harley Davidson Motorcycle made in Milwaukee of 35% American made parts
MORE American than a Honda Goldwing, made in Ohio of 45 % American made
parts? At least the Polaris Victory IS a 100% American motorcycle, that
can't be said for ANY car, light truck, Jeep or SUV.
I am one of the few who would willingly pay more (within reason)for an
American product, but I can rarely find one. I can't afford to have my
sneakers hand-made, so they are imports. It turns out that my "Columbia"
parka was made in Vietnam. Damn! It was a gift.
Is there an American tail light bulb for sale, anywhere?
Is buying a B.F Goodrich tire, French owned, more Patriotic than buying a
Yokohama?
Is there an American made tire better than a BFG MT for general off-roading?
What tires do you run, Bill?
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California