YJ axle shims
11-05-2003, 02:04 PM
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YJ axle shims
On a YJ with a shackle lift, I want to correct for the steering geometry
with shims.
So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
Someone emailed me and said:
"Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
Which is it!
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with shims.
So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
Someone emailed me and said:
"Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
Which is it!
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11-05-2003, 02:47 PM
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Re: YJ axle shims
LOL, think about it....
The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front to
come back up and the pinion to go back down.
The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeepers wrote:
>
> On a YJ with a shackle lift, I want to correct for the steering geometry
> with shims.
>
> So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
> in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
>
> Someone emailed me and said:
>
> "Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
>
> You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
> the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
> to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
> thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
>
> Which is it!
>
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The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front to
come back up and the pinion to go back down.
The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeepers wrote:
>
> On a YJ with a shackle lift, I want to correct for the steering geometry
> with shims.
>
> So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
> in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
>
> Someone emailed me and said:
>
> "Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
>
> You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
> the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
> to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
> thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
>
> Which is it!
>
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11-05-2003, 02:47 PM
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Re: YJ axle shims
LOL, think about it....
The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front to
come back up and the pinion to go back down.
The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeepers wrote:
>
> On a YJ with a shackle lift, I want to correct for the steering geometry
> with shims.
>
> So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
> in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
>
> Someone emailed me and said:
>
> "Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
>
> You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
> the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
> to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
> thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
>
> Which is it!
>
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The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front to
come back up and the pinion to go back down.
The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeepers wrote:
>
> On a YJ with a shackle lift, I want to correct for the steering geometry
> with shims.
>
> So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
> in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
>
> Someone emailed me and said:
>
> "Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
>
> You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
> the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
> to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
> thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
>
> Which is it!
>
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11-05-2003, 02:47 PM
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Re: YJ axle shims
LOL, think about it....
The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front to
come back up and the pinion to go back down.
The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeepers wrote:
>
> On a YJ with a shackle lift, I want to correct for the steering geometry
> with shims.
>
> So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
> in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
>
> Someone emailed me and said:
>
> "Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
>
> You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
> the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
> to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
> thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
>
> Which is it!
>
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The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front to
come back up and the pinion to go back down.
The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeepers wrote:
>
> On a YJ with a shackle lift, I want to correct for the steering geometry
> with shims.
>
> So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
> in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
>
> Someone emailed me and said:
>
> "Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
>
> You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
> the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
> to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
> thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
>
> Which is it!
>
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11-05-2003, 02:50 PM
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Re: YJ axle shims
Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
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Jeepers wrote:
>
> On a YJ with a shackle lift, I want to correct for the steering geometry
> with shims.
>
> So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
> in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
>
> Someone emailed me and said:
>
> "Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
>
> You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
> the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
> to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
> thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
>
> Which is it!
ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Jeepers wrote:
>
> On a YJ with a shackle lift, I want to correct for the steering geometry
> with shims.
>
> So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
> in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
>
> Someone emailed me and said:
>
> "Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
>
> You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
> the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
> to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
> thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
>
> Which is it!
11-05-2003, 02:50 PM
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Re: YJ axle shims
Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Jeepers wrote:
>
> On a YJ with a shackle lift, I want to correct for the steering geometry
> with shims.
>
> So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
> in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
>
> Someone emailed me and said:
>
> "Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
>
> You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
> the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
> to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
> thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
>
> Which is it!
ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Jeepers wrote:
>
> On a YJ with a shackle lift, I want to correct for the steering geometry
> with shims.
>
> So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
> in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
>
> Someone emailed me and said:
>
> "Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
>
> You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
> the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
> to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
> thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
>
> Which is it!
11-05-2003, 02:50 PM
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Re: YJ axle shims
Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Jeepers wrote:
>
> On a YJ with a shackle lift, I want to correct for the steering geometry
> with shims.
>
> So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
> in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
>
> Someone emailed me and said:
>
> "Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
>
> You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
> the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
> to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
> thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
>
> Which is it!
ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Jeepers wrote:
>
> On a YJ with a shackle lift, I want to correct for the steering geometry
> with shims.
>
> So, since the shackle has rotated the axle forward , the wedge should go
> in fat end to the front to rotate the axle back rearward, right?
>
> Someone emailed me and said:
>
> "Someone directed you wrong, by the way.
>
> You want to put the thick end of the shim AWAY from
> the shackles. Since the shackles "push down", you want
> to counter-push the axle, hence the OTHER end. So the
> thin end of the shim goes at the shackle end."
>
> Which is it!
11-05-2003, 03:13 PM
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Re: YJ axle shims
> LOL, think about it....
> The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
> The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
>driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
> The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
> Mike
> Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
caster to increase (?).
Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
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> The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
> The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
>driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
> The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
> Mike
> Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
caster to increase (?).
Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
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11-05-2003, 03:13 PM
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Re: YJ axle shims
> LOL, think about it....
> The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
> The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
>driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
> The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
> Mike
> Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
caster to increase (?).
Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
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> The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
> The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
>driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
> The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
> Mike
> Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
caster to increase (?).
Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
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11-05-2003, 03:13 PM
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Re: YJ axle shims
> LOL, think about it....
> The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
> The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
>driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
> The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
> Mike
> Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
caster to increase (?).
Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
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> The shackles rotate the front down and pinion up. You want the front
> to come back up and the pinion to go back down.
> The reverse is true for the back, the pinion come up and knocks the
>driveshaft u-joints out of balance or tolerance.
> The wedge has to be on the side of the drop down to bring it back up.
> Mike
> Sounds like you have not read your alignment specs. You want the
> ball joints to tilt back, much like the rake on your mudercycle.
> http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
Thanks Guys. Now can I get a straight answer?
The front axle has been rotated forward, causing the pinion to rise and
my caster to decrease(?), therefore I think I would put the shim in fat
side to the front to rotate the pinion back down and increasing my
caster to increase (?).
Yes or No (and any correction to my inept thesis)
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