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Jeepster 05-19-2004 11:23 PM

YJ Axle Seal
 
My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
be one of the following.

1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?

2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?

Any thoughts?

Jerry McG 05-19-2004 11:40 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 

"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:ft8oa0l4ijt5ddjf5gg34bp5up2dgg97u0@4ax.com...
> My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> be one of the following.
>
> 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>
> 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>
> Any thoughts?


The inner seal doesn't do anything that the outer seal doesn't do. That is,
they both prevent the shift assemby's dedicated oil supply from leaking
into the axle tube between the inner seal and the right side carrier seal,
or out the end of the tube.

The oil supply for the shift assembly does not come from the the
differential, it has to be added to the shift assembly through the 4x4
indicator light switch hole any time you open the shift housing up. You DID
put oil into the shift housing after you replaced the outer seal, didn't
you? If not, you've likely toasted the whole magilla. If you did, then the
seal isn't properly seated, was damaged when installed, or the outer shaft
is damaged at the sealing surface.
As tough as those are to get seated, I'd opt for the first two possibilities
I listed.



Jerry McG 05-19-2004 11:40 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 

"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:ft8oa0l4ijt5ddjf5gg34bp5up2dgg97u0@4ax.com...
> My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> be one of the following.
>
> 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>
> 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>
> Any thoughts?


The inner seal doesn't do anything that the outer seal doesn't do. That is,
they both prevent the shift assemby's dedicated oil supply from leaking
into the axle tube between the inner seal and the right side carrier seal,
or out the end of the tube.

The oil supply for the shift assembly does not come from the the
differential, it has to be added to the shift assembly through the 4x4
indicator light switch hole any time you open the shift housing up. You DID
put oil into the shift housing after you replaced the outer seal, didn't
you? If not, you've likely toasted the whole magilla. If you did, then the
seal isn't properly seated, was damaged when installed, or the outer shaft
is damaged at the sealing surface.
As tough as those are to get seated, I'd opt for the first two possibilities
I listed.



Jerry McG 05-19-2004 11:40 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 

"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:ft8oa0l4ijt5ddjf5gg34bp5up2dgg97u0@4ax.com...
> My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> be one of the following.
>
> 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>
> 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>
> Any thoughts?


The inner seal doesn't do anything that the outer seal doesn't do. That is,
they both prevent the shift assemby's dedicated oil supply from leaking
into the axle tube between the inner seal and the right side carrier seal,
or out the end of the tube.

The oil supply for the shift assembly does not come from the the
differential, it has to be added to the shift assembly through the 4x4
indicator light switch hole any time you open the shift housing up. You DID
put oil into the shift housing after you replaced the outer seal, didn't
you? If not, you've likely toasted the whole magilla. If you did, then the
seal isn't properly seated, was damaged when installed, or the outer shaft
is damaged at the sealing surface.
As tough as those are to get seated, I'd opt for the first two possibilities
I listed.



Jerry McG 05-19-2004 11:40 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 

"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:ft8oa0l4ijt5ddjf5gg34bp5up2dgg97u0@4ax.com...
> My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> be one of the following.
>
> 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>
> 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>
> Any thoughts?


The inner seal doesn't do anything that the outer seal doesn't do. That is,
they both prevent the shift assemby's dedicated oil supply from leaking
into the axle tube between the inner seal and the right side carrier seal,
or out the end of the tube.

The oil supply for the shift assembly does not come from the the
differential, it has to be added to the shift assembly through the 4x4
indicator light switch hole any time you open the shift housing up. You DID
put oil into the shift housing after you replaced the outer seal, didn't
you? If not, you've likely toasted the whole magilla. If you did, then the
seal isn't properly seated, was damaged when installed, or the outer shaft
is damaged at the sealing surface.
As tough as those are to get seated, I'd opt for the first two possibilities
I listed.



Mike Romain 05-20-2004 09:04 AM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeepster wrote:
>
> My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> be one of the following.
>
> 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>
> 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>
> Any thoughts?


Mike Romain 05-20-2004 09:04 AM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeepster wrote:
>
> My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> be one of the following.
>
> 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>
> 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>
> Any thoughts?


Mike Romain 05-20-2004 09:04 AM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeepster wrote:
>
> My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> be one of the following.
>
> 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>
> 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>
> Any thoughts?


Mike Romain 05-20-2004 09:04 AM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeepster wrote:
>
> My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> be one of the following.
>
> 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>
> 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>
> Any thoughts?


Jerry McG 05-20-2004 03:13 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
there fully seated.

The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
ever installed on a Jeep.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
> 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
> told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> > be one of the following.
> >
> > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
> >
> > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
> >
> > Any thoughts?




Jerry McG 05-20-2004 03:13 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
there fully seated.

The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
ever installed on a Jeep.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
> 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
> told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> > be one of the following.
> >
> > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
> >
> > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
> >
> > Any thoughts?




Jerry McG 05-20-2004 03:13 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
there fully seated.

The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
ever installed on a Jeep.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
> 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
> told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> > be one of the following.
> >
> > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
> >
> > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
> >
> > Any thoughts?




Jerry McG 05-20-2004 03:13 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
there fully seated.

The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
ever installed on a Jeep.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
> 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
> told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> > be one of the following.
> >
> > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
> >
> > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
> >
> > Any thoughts?




Mike Romain 05-20-2004 06:12 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
I use threaded rod and big thick washers. It 'is' a pain.

Mike

Jerry McG wrote:
>
> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
> there fully seated.
>
> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
> ever installed on a Jeep.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> > > be one of the following.
> > >
> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
> > >
> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?


Mike Romain 05-20-2004 06:12 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
I use threaded rod and big thick washers. It 'is' a pain.

Mike

Jerry McG wrote:
>
> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
> there fully seated.
>
> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
> ever installed on a Jeep.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> > > be one of the following.
> > >
> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
> > >
> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?


Mike Romain 05-20-2004 06:12 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
I use threaded rod and big thick washers. It 'is' a pain.

Mike

Jerry McG wrote:
>
> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
> there fully seated.
>
> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
> ever installed on a Jeep.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> > > be one of the following.
> > >
> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
> > >
> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?


Mike Romain 05-20-2004 06:12 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
I use threaded rod and big thick washers. It 'is' a pain.

Mike

Jerry McG wrote:
>
> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
> there fully seated.
>
> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
> ever installed on a Jeep.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> > > be one of the following.
> > >
> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
> > >
> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-20-2004 07:04 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
Real Jeeps have the seal on the outside of steering knuckle where
it protect the universal joints and larger ring gear:
http://www.----------.com/dana25knuckle.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jerry McG wrote:
>
> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
> there fully seated.
>
> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
> ever installed on a Jeep.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> > > be one of the following.
> > >
> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
> > >
> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-20-2004 07:04 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
Real Jeeps have the seal on the outside of steering knuckle where
it protect the universal joints and larger ring gear:
http://www.----------.com/dana25knuckle.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jerry McG wrote:
>
> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
> there fully seated.
>
> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
> ever installed on a Jeep.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> > > be one of the following.
> > >
> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
> > >
> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-20-2004 07:04 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
Real Jeeps have the seal on the outside of steering knuckle where
it protect the universal joints and larger ring gear:
http://www.----------.com/dana25knuckle.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jerry McG wrote:
>
> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
> there fully seated.
>
> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
> ever installed on a Jeep.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> > > be one of the following.
> > >
> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
> > >
> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-20-2004 07:04 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
Real Jeeps have the seal on the outside of steering knuckle where
it protect the universal joints and larger ring gear:
http://www.----------.com/dana25knuckle.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jerry McG wrote:
>
> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
> there fully seated.
>
> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
> ever installed on a Jeep.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
> > > be one of the following.
> > >
> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
> > >
> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?


Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:13 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
On Wed, 19 May 2004 21:40:00 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:ft8oa0l4ijt5ddjf5gg34bp5up2dgg97u0@4ax.com.. .
>> My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
>> 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
>> worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
>> seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
>> be one of the following.
>>
>> 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
>> with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>>
>> 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>>
>> Any thoughts?

>
>The inner seal doesn't do anything that the outer seal doesn't do. That is,
>they both prevent the shift assemby's dedicated oil supply from leaking
>into the axle tube between the inner seal and the right side carrier seal,
>or out the end of the tube.
>
>The oil supply for the shift assembly does not come from the the
>differential, it has to be added to the shift assembly through the 4x4
>indicator light switch hole any time you open the shift housing up. You DID
>put oil into the shift housing after you replaced the outer seal, didn't
>you? If not, you've likely toasted the whole magilla. If you did, then the
>seal isn't properly seated, was damaged when installed, or the outer shaft
>is damaged at the sealing surface.
>As tough as those are to get seated, I'd opt for the first two possibilities
>I listed.
>

I have a little pump I use for diff fluid and each time I take it
apart I pump in enough to give the gear lubrication

I kind of though the inner and outer seals where the same but I was
thinking that the inner seal might be completely gone and overwhelming
the outer seal. I'm guessing now that the shaft is scored enough to
not give me a good seal or I messed up the seal on installation.

Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:13 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
On Wed, 19 May 2004 21:40:00 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:ft8oa0l4ijt5ddjf5gg34bp5up2dgg97u0@4ax.com.. .
>> My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
>> 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
>> worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
>> seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
>> be one of the following.
>>
>> 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
>> with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>>
>> 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>>
>> Any thoughts?

>
>The inner seal doesn't do anything that the outer seal doesn't do. That is,
>they both prevent the shift assemby's dedicated oil supply from leaking
>into the axle tube between the inner seal and the right side carrier seal,
>or out the end of the tube.
>
>The oil supply for the shift assembly does not come from the the
>differential, it has to be added to the shift assembly through the 4x4
>indicator light switch hole any time you open the shift housing up. You DID
>put oil into the shift housing after you replaced the outer seal, didn't
>you? If not, you've likely toasted the whole magilla. If you did, then the
>seal isn't properly seated, was damaged when installed, or the outer shaft
>is damaged at the sealing surface.
>As tough as those are to get seated, I'd opt for the first two possibilities
>I listed.
>

I have a little pump I use for diff fluid and each time I take it
apart I pump in enough to give the gear lubrication

I kind of though the inner and outer seals where the same but I was
thinking that the inner seal might be completely gone and overwhelming
the outer seal. I'm guessing now that the shaft is scored enough to
not give me a good seal or I messed up the seal on installation.

Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:13 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
On Wed, 19 May 2004 21:40:00 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:ft8oa0l4ijt5ddjf5gg34bp5up2dgg97u0@4ax.com.. .
>> My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
>> 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
>> worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
>> seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
>> be one of the following.
>>
>> 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
>> with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>>
>> 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>>
>> Any thoughts?

>
>The inner seal doesn't do anything that the outer seal doesn't do. That is,
>they both prevent the shift assemby's dedicated oil supply from leaking
>into the axle tube between the inner seal and the right side carrier seal,
>or out the end of the tube.
>
>The oil supply for the shift assembly does not come from the the
>differential, it has to be added to the shift assembly through the 4x4
>indicator light switch hole any time you open the shift housing up. You DID
>put oil into the shift housing after you replaced the outer seal, didn't
>you? If not, you've likely toasted the whole magilla. If you did, then the
>seal isn't properly seated, was damaged when installed, or the outer shaft
>is damaged at the sealing surface.
>As tough as those are to get seated, I'd opt for the first two possibilities
>I listed.
>

I have a little pump I use for diff fluid and each time I take it
apart I pump in enough to give the gear lubrication

I kind of though the inner and outer seals where the same but I was
thinking that the inner seal might be completely gone and overwhelming
the outer seal. I'm guessing now that the shaft is scored enough to
not give me a good seal or I messed up the seal on installation.

Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:13 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
On Wed, 19 May 2004 21:40:00 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

>
>"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
>news:ft8oa0l4ijt5ddjf5gg34bp5up2dgg97u0@4ax.com.. .
>> My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
>> 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
>> worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
>> seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
>> be one of the following.
>>
>> 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
>> with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>>
>> 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>>
>> Any thoughts?

>
>The inner seal doesn't do anything that the outer seal doesn't do. That is,
>they both prevent the shift assemby's dedicated oil supply from leaking
>into the axle tube between the inner seal and the right side carrier seal,
>or out the end of the tube.
>
>The oil supply for the shift assembly does not come from the the
>differential, it has to be added to the shift assembly through the 4x4
>indicator light switch hole any time you open the shift housing up. You DID
>put oil into the shift housing after you replaced the outer seal, didn't
>you? If not, you've likely toasted the whole magilla. If you did, then the
>seal isn't properly seated, was damaged when installed, or the outer shaft
>is damaged at the sealing surface.
>As tough as those are to get seated, I'd opt for the first two possibilities
>I listed.
>

I have a little pump I use for diff fluid and each time I take it
apart I pump in enough to give the gear lubrication

I kind of though the inner and outer seals where the same but I was
thinking that the inner seal might be completely gone and overwhelming
the outer seal. I'm guessing now that the shaft is scored enough to
not give me a good seal or I messed up the seal on installation.

Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:15 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
Yes that is what I used...I actually had to use the grinder to make
the washer the right size. I will give it another go this weekend and
let you know how it goes.

Thanks everyone

On Thu, 20 May 2004 18:12:53 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>I use threaded rod and big thick washers. It 'is' a pain.
>
>Mike
>
>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
>> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
>> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
>> there fully seated.
>>
>> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
>> ever installed on a Jeep.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
>> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
>> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Jeepster wrote:
>> > >
>> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
>> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
>> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
>> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
>> > > be one of the following.
>> > >
>> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
>> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>> > >
>> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>> > >
>> > > Any thoughts?



Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:15 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
Yes that is what I used...I actually had to use the grinder to make
the washer the right size. I will give it another go this weekend and
let you know how it goes.

Thanks everyone

On Thu, 20 May 2004 18:12:53 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>I use threaded rod and big thick washers. It 'is' a pain.
>
>Mike
>
>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
>> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
>> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
>> there fully seated.
>>
>> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
>> ever installed on a Jeep.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
>> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
>> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Jeepster wrote:
>> > >
>> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
>> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
>> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
>> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
>> > > be one of the following.
>> > >
>> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
>> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>> > >
>> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>> > >
>> > > Any thoughts?



Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:15 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
Yes that is what I used...I actually had to use the grinder to make
the washer the right size. I will give it another go this weekend and
let you know how it goes.

Thanks everyone

On Thu, 20 May 2004 18:12:53 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>I use threaded rod and big thick washers. It 'is' a pain.
>
>Mike
>
>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
>> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
>> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
>> there fully seated.
>>
>> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
>> ever installed on a Jeep.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
>> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
>> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Jeepster wrote:
>> > >
>> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
>> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
>> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
>> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
>> > > be one of the following.
>> > >
>> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
>> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>> > >
>> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>> > >
>> > > Any thoughts?



Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:15 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
Yes that is what I used...I actually had to use the grinder to make
the washer the right size. I will give it another go this weekend and
let you know how it goes.

Thanks everyone

On Thu, 20 May 2004 18:12:53 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>I use threaded rod and big thick washers. It 'is' a pain.
>
>Mike
>
>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
>> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
>> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
>> there fully seated.
>>
>> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
>> ever installed on a Jeep.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
>> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
>> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Jeepster wrote:
>> > >
>> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
>> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
>> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
>> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
>> > > be one of the following.
>> > >
>> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
>> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>> > >
>> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>> > >
>> > > Any thoughts?



Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:16 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
Real Jeeps look like they cost more than my son wants to spend. :)

On Thu, 20 May 2004 16:04:45 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Real Jeeps have the seal on the outside of steering knuckle where
>it protect the universal joints and larger ring gear:
>http://www.----------.com/dana25knuckle.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
>> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
>> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
>> there fully seated.
>>
>> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
>> ever installed on a Jeep.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
>> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
>> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Jeepster wrote:
>> > >
>> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
>> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
>> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
>> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
>> > > be one of the following.
>> > >
>> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
>> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>> > >
>> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>> > >
>> > > Any thoughts?



Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:16 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
Real Jeeps look like they cost more than my son wants to spend. :)

On Thu, 20 May 2004 16:04:45 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Real Jeeps have the seal on the outside of steering knuckle where
>it protect the universal joints and larger ring gear:
>http://www.----------.com/dana25knuckle.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
>> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
>> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
>> there fully seated.
>>
>> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
>> ever installed on a Jeep.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
>> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
>> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Jeepster wrote:
>> > >
>> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
>> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
>> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
>> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
>> > > be one of the following.
>> > >
>> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
>> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>> > >
>> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>> > >
>> > > Any thoughts?



Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:16 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
Real Jeeps look like they cost more than my son wants to spend. :)

On Thu, 20 May 2004 16:04:45 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Real Jeeps have the seal on the outside of steering knuckle where
>it protect the universal joints and larger ring gear:
>http://www.----------.com/dana25knuckle.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
>> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
>> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
>> there fully seated.
>>
>> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
>> ever installed on a Jeep.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
>> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
>> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Jeepster wrote:
>> > >
>> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
>> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
>> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
>> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
>> > > be one of the following.
>> > >
>> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
>> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>> > >
>> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>> > >
>> > > Any thoughts?



Jeepster 05-20-2004 07:16 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
Real Jeeps look like they cost more than my son wants to spend. :)

On Thu, 20 May 2004 16:04:45 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Real Jeeps have the seal on the outside of steering knuckle where
>it protect the universal joints and larger ring gear:
>http://www.----------.com/dana25knuckle.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>Jerry McG wrote:
>>
>> If you don't have the factory tool this is a bear to get pressed in without
>> ruining the seal. I still have a tool I made for these hanging in my shop
>> somewhere. Even with that I generally ruin one or two before I'd get one in
>> there fully seated.
>>
>> The disconnect axle is absolutely the worst piece of Rube Goldberg nonsense
>> ever installed on a Jeep.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:40ACACC2.E91658D0@sympatico.ca...
>> > 3.) You bent it putting it in. (Pretty common happening I hear. I was
>> > told to buy an extra for the first one I did.)
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> > Jeepster wrote:
>> > >
>> > > My son and I replaced the front passenger side outer axle seal on his
>> > > 93 YJ the other day and it is still leaking, actually it seems to leak
>> > > worse. I pulled the vac disconnect cover plate and checked and the
>> > > seal seems to be still seated properly so I got to thinking it might
>> > > be one of the following.
>> > >
>> > > 1.) the axle had a bit of scoring on the part of the shaft that mates
>> > > with the seal ... could this cause a bad leak?
>> > >
>> > > 2.) the inner seal is totally shot and overwhelming the outer seal?
>> > >
>> > > Any thoughts?



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-20-2004 07:29 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
I don't show an inner seal on the right side:
http://www.----------.com/dana30/index.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jeepster wrote:
>
> I have a little pump I use for diff fluid and each time I take it
> apart I pump in enough to give the gear lubrication
>
> I kind of though the inner and outer seals where the same but I was
> thinking that the inner seal might be completely gone and overwhelming
> the outer seal. I'm guessing now that the shaft is scored enough to
> not give me a good seal or I messed up the seal on installation.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-20-2004 07:29 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
I don't show an inner seal on the right side:
http://www.----------.com/dana30/index.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jeepster wrote:
>
> I have a little pump I use for diff fluid and each time I take it
> apart I pump in enough to give the gear lubrication
>
> I kind of though the inner and outer seals where the same but I was
> thinking that the inner seal might be completely gone and overwhelming
> the outer seal. I'm guessing now that the shaft is scored enough to
> not give me a good seal or I messed up the seal on installation.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-20-2004 07:29 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
I don't show an inner seal on the right side:
http://www.----------.com/dana30/index.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jeepster wrote:
>
> I have a little pump I use for diff fluid and each time I take it
> apart I pump in enough to give the gear lubrication
>
> I kind of though the inner and outer seals where the same but I was
> thinking that the inner seal might be completely gone and overwhelming
> the outer seal. I'm guessing now that the shaft is scored enough to
> not give me a good seal or I messed up the seal on installation.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-20-2004 07:29 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
I don't show an inner seal on the right side:
http://www.----------.com/dana30/index.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jeepster wrote:
>
> I have a little pump I use for diff fluid and each time I take it
> apart I pump in enough to give the gear lubrication
>
> I kind of though the inner and outer seals where the same but I was
> thinking that the inner seal might be completely gone and overwhelming
> the outer seal. I'm guessing now that the shaft is scored enough to
> not give me a good seal or I messed up the seal on installation.


Mike Romain 05-20-2004 07:40 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
I was going to say something Bill, but wasn't 100% sure. I remember
having this discussion before maybe I think and there wasn't one on the
YJ I helped do. Only the one seal per side.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I don't show an inner seal on the right side:
> http://www.----------.com/dana30/index.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > I have a little pump I use for diff fluid and each time I take it
> > apart I pump in enough to give the gear lubrication
> >
> > I kind of though the inner and outer seals where the same but I was
> > thinking that the inner seal might be completely gone and overwhelming
> > the outer seal. I'm guessing now that the shaft is scored enough to
> > not give me a good seal or I messed up the seal on installation.


Mike Romain 05-20-2004 07:40 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
I was going to say something Bill, but wasn't 100% sure. I remember
having this discussion before maybe I think and there wasn't one on the
YJ I helped do. Only the one seal per side.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I don't show an inner seal on the right side:
> http://www.----------.com/dana30/index.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > I have a little pump I use for diff fluid and each time I take it
> > apart I pump in enough to give the gear lubrication
> >
> > I kind of though the inner and outer seals where the same but I was
> > thinking that the inner seal might be completely gone and overwhelming
> > the outer seal. I'm guessing now that the shaft is scored enough to
> > not give me a good seal or I messed up the seal on installation.


Mike Romain 05-20-2004 07:40 PM

Re: YJ Axle Seal
 
I was going to say something Bill, but wasn't 100% sure. I remember
having this discussion before maybe I think and there wasn't one on the
YJ I helped do. Only the one seal per side.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I don't show an inner seal on the right side:
> http://www.----------.com/dana30/index.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jeepster wrote:
> >
> > I have a little pump I use for diff fluid and each time I take it
> > apart I pump in enough to give the gear lubrication
> >
> > I kind of though the inner and outer seals where the same but I was
> > thinking that the inner seal might be completely gone and overwhelming
> > the outer seal. I'm guessing now that the shaft is scored enough to
> > not give me a good seal or I messed up the seal on installation.



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