Re: Yet another biggest tires post (But this time for a Grand)
 

Steve, the Original Poster, asked for the biggest tire that would fit ZJ
with 3 1/2" blocks, what was all your babbling about? And you might
point out the problems with Four Wheeler magazine's chart.
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Steve wrote:
>
> Significant fender cutting and/or flare relocation is required to fit
> 32x11.50 (Bill, that chart has problems). No big deal, just be prepared
> to cut sheet metal and budget for aftermarket flares and wheels.
>
> Manufacturers of most 3.5" ZJ kits recommend 31x10.50. Even then, you
> will likely have to do some minor fender snipping under the flares:
>
> http://www.nagca.com/grandtech/bfgoo...radial_mud.htm
>
> You can fit 32x11.50 or 33x10.50 with a 4.5" lift. Again, minor fender
> trimming likely required.
>
> The deep backspacing of the stock wheels becomes an issue as you go with
> bigger tires. Changing to wheels with less backspacing will limit
> control-arm rub on tight turns and inner wheel well rub on full flex.
> That being said, neither is hard to live with as they typically occur at
> very low speed.
>
> Steve

Re: Yet another biggest tires post (But this time for a Grand)
 

Steve, the Original Poster, asked for the biggest tire that would fit ZJ
with 3 1/2" blocks, what was all your babbling about? And you might
point out the problems with Four Wheeler magazine's chart.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> Significant fender cutting and/or flare relocation is required to fit
> 32x11.50 (Bill, that chart has problems). No big deal, just be prepared
> to cut sheet metal and budget for aftermarket flares and wheels.
>
> Manufacturers of most 3.5" ZJ kits recommend 31x10.50. Even then, you
> will likely have to do some minor fender snipping under the flares:
>
> http://www.nagca.com/grandtech/bfgoo...radial_mud.htm
>
> You can fit 32x11.50 or 33x10.50 with a 4.5" lift. Again, minor fender
> trimming likely required.
>
> The deep backspacing of the stock wheels becomes an issue as you go with
> bigger tires. Changing to wheels with less backspacing will limit
> control-arm rub on tight turns and inner wheel well rub on full flex.
> That being said, neither is hard to live with as they typically occur at
> very low speed.
>
> Steve

Re: Yet another biggest tires post (But this time for a Grand)
 

Steve, the Original Poster, asked for the biggest tire that would fit ZJ
with 3 1/2" blocks, what was all your babbling about? And you might
point out the problems with Four Wheeler magazine's chart.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> Significant fender cutting and/or flare relocation is required to fit
> 32x11.50 (Bill, that chart has problems). No big deal, just be prepared
> to cut sheet metal and budget for aftermarket flares and wheels.
>
> Manufacturers of most 3.5" ZJ kits recommend 31x10.50. Even then, you
> will likely have to do some minor fender snipping under the flares:
>
> http://www.nagca.com/grandtech/bfgoo...radial_mud.htm
>
> You can fit 32x11.50 or 33x10.50 with a 4.5" lift. Again, minor fender
> trimming likely required.
>
> The deep backspacing of the stock wheels becomes an issue as you go with
> bigger tires. Changing to wheels with less backspacing will limit
> control-arm rub on tight turns and inner wheel well rub on full flex.
> That being said, neither is hard to live with as they typically occur at
> very low speed.
>
> Steve

Re: Yet another biggest tires post (But this time for a Grand)
 

Hi Bill,

Just letting the OP know that he's got a date with a Sawzall if he opts
for 32s and that he may get more than a little rubbing with stock
wheels. Yes, the chart states this (although it should have the 'proper
wheel offset crucial' asterisk in that cell), but I thought a little
embellishment was in order.

I don't know about other vehicles on the chart, but the '84-up Cherokee'
row is insane. It says 31s will fit stock with no cutting. No way. 29s
might fit stock, but 30s need a 1-2" boost to clear properly. 31s need
3". It says 33x12.50 will fit 3" with 'major trimming'. That's an
understatement. Maybe someone's tried it, but I've never seen it. I've
got 33x10.50 with 4.5" and when the front is fully flexed they just
barely clear the ceiling with extended bump stops and the well liners
removed. Also, the chart is misleading in what it doesn't say. There are
commercially available XJ lifts 6, 8" and beyond that allow 34, 35"+
tires. The chart omits this and thus implies 33x12.50 is the max size
for an XJ. Bah! Am I babbling again? :)

With this one row so bad, I wonder if the rest is any good. Do the
CJ/YJ/TJ rows look okay?

Steve

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Steve, the Original Poster, asked for the biggest tire that would fit ZJ
> with 3 1/2" blocks, what was all your babbling about? And you might
> point out the problems with Four Wheeler magazine's chart.

Re: Yet another biggest tires post (But this time for a Grand)
 

Hi Bill,

Just letting the OP know that he's got a date with a Sawzall if he opts
for 32s and that he may get more than a little rubbing with stock
wheels. Yes, the chart states this (although it should have the 'proper
wheel offset crucial' asterisk in that cell), but I thought a little
embellishment was in order.

I don't know about other vehicles on the chart, but the '84-up Cherokee'
row is insane. It says 31s will fit stock with no cutting. No way. 29s
might fit stock, but 30s need a 1-2" boost to clear properly. 31s need
3". It says 33x12.50 will fit 3" with 'major trimming'. That's an
understatement. Maybe someone's tried it, but I've never seen it. I've
got 33x10.50 with 4.5" and when the front is fully flexed they just
barely clear the ceiling with extended bump stops and the well liners
removed. Also, the chart is misleading in what it doesn't say. There are
commercially available XJ lifts 6, 8" and beyond that allow 34, 35"+
tires. The chart omits this and thus implies 33x12.50 is the max size
for an XJ. Bah! Am I babbling again? :)

With this one row so bad, I wonder if the rest is any good. Do the
CJ/YJ/TJ rows look okay?

Steve

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Steve, the Original Poster, asked for the biggest tire that would fit ZJ
> with 3 1/2" blocks, what was all your babbling about? And you might
> point out the problems with Four Wheeler magazine's chart.

Re: Yet another biggest tires post (But this time for a Grand)
 

Hi Bill,

Just letting the OP know that he's got a date with a Sawzall if he opts
for 32s and that he may get more than a little rubbing with stock
wheels. Yes, the chart states this (although it should have the 'proper
wheel offset crucial' asterisk in that cell), but I thought a little
embellishment was in order.

I don't know about other vehicles on the chart, but the '84-up Cherokee'
row is insane. It says 31s will fit stock with no cutting. No way. 29s
might fit stock, but 30s need a 1-2" boost to clear properly. 31s need
3". It says 33x12.50 will fit 3" with 'major trimming'. That's an
understatement. Maybe someone's tried it, but I've never seen it. I've
got 33x10.50 with 4.5" and when the front is fully flexed they just
barely clear the ceiling with extended bump stops and the well liners
removed. Also, the chart is misleading in what it doesn't say. There are
commercially available XJ lifts 6, 8" and beyond that allow 34, 35"+
tires. The chart omits this and thus implies 33x12.50 is the max size
for an XJ. Bah! Am I babbling again? :)

With this one row so bad, I wonder if the rest is any good. Do the
CJ/YJ/TJ rows look okay?

Steve

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Steve, the Original Poster, asked for the biggest tire that would fit ZJ
> with 3 1/2" blocks, what was all your babbling about? And you might
> point out the problems with Four Wheeler magazine's chart.

Re: Yet another biggest tires post (But this time for a Grand)
 

Hi Bill,

Just letting the OP know that he's got a date with a Sawzall if he opts
for 32s and that he may get more than a little rubbing with stock
wheels. Yes, the chart states this (although it should have the 'proper
wheel offset crucial' asterisk in that cell), but I thought a little
embellishment was in order.

I don't know about other vehicles on the chart, but the '84-up Cherokee'
row is insane. It says 31s will fit stock with no cutting. No way. 29s
might fit stock, but 30s need a 1-2" boost to clear properly. 31s need
3". It says 33x12.50 will fit 3" with 'major trimming'. That's an
understatement. Maybe someone's tried it, but I've never seen it. I've
got 33x10.50 with 4.5" and when the front is fully flexed they just
barely clear the ceiling with extended bump stops and the well liners
removed. Also, the chart is misleading in what it doesn't say. There are
commercially available XJ lifts 6, 8" and beyond that allow 34, 35"+
tires. The chart omits this and thus implies 33x12.50 is the max size
for an XJ. Bah! Am I babbling again? :)

With this one row so bad, I wonder if the rest is any good. Do the
CJ/YJ/TJ rows look okay?

Steve

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Steve, the Original Poster, asked for the biggest tire that would fit ZJ
> with 3 1/2" blocks, what was all your babbling about? And you might
> point out the problems with Four Wheeler magazine's chart.

Re: Yet another biggest tires post (But this time for a Grand)
 

I think they were talking about the Real Cherokees:
http://www.cfsja.org/rigs/members.html#cherokee
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Just letting the OP know that he's got a date with a Sawzall if he opts
> for 32s and that he may get more than a little rubbing with stock
> wheels. Yes, the chart states this (although it should have the 'proper
> wheel offset crucial' asterisk in that cell), but I thought a little
> embellishment was in order.
>
> I don't know about other vehicles on the chart, but the '84-up Cherokee'
> row is insane. It says 31s will fit stock with no cutting. No way. 29s
> might fit stock, but 30s need a 1-2" boost to clear properly. 31s need
> 3". It says 33x12.50 will fit 3" with 'major trimming'. That's an
> understatement. Maybe someone's tried it, but I've never seen it. I've
> got 33x10.50 with 4.5" and when the front is fully flexed they just
> barely clear the ceiling with extended bump stops and the well liners
> removed. Also, the chart is misleading in what it doesn't say. There are
> commercially available XJ lifts 6, 8" and beyond that allow 34, 35"+
> tires. The chart omits this and thus implies 33x12.50 is the max size
> for an XJ. Bah! Am I babbling again? :)
>
> With this one row so bad, I wonder if the rest is any good. Do the
> CJ/YJ/TJ rows look okay?
>
> Steve

Re: Yet another biggest tires post (But this time for a Grand)
 

I think they were talking about the Real Cherokees:
http://www.cfsja.org/rigs/members.html#cherokee
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Just letting the OP know that he's got a date with a Sawzall if he opts
> for 32s and that he may get more than a little rubbing with stock
> wheels. Yes, the chart states this (although it should have the 'proper
> wheel offset crucial' asterisk in that cell), but I thought a little
> embellishment was in order.
>
> I don't know about other vehicles on the chart, but the '84-up Cherokee'
> row is insane. It says 31s will fit stock with no cutting. No way. 29s
> might fit stock, but 30s need a 1-2" boost to clear properly. 31s need
> 3". It says 33x12.50 will fit 3" with 'major trimming'. That's an
> understatement. Maybe someone's tried it, but I've never seen it. I've
> got 33x10.50 with 4.5" and when the front is fully flexed they just
> barely clear the ceiling with extended bump stops and the well liners
> removed. Also, the chart is misleading in what it doesn't say. There are
> commercially available XJ lifts 6, 8" and beyond that allow 34, 35"+
> tires. The chart omits this and thus implies 33x12.50 is the max size
> for an XJ. Bah! Am I babbling again? :)
>
> With this one row so bad, I wonder if the rest is any good. Do the
> CJ/YJ/TJ rows look okay?
>
> Steve

Re: Yet another biggest tires post (But this time for a Grand)
 

I think they were talking about the Real Cherokees:
http://www.cfsja.org/rigs/members.html#cherokee
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Just letting the OP know that he's got a date with a Sawzall if he opts
> for 32s and that he may get more than a little rubbing with stock
> wheels. Yes, the chart states this (although it should have the 'proper
> wheel offset crucial' asterisk in that cell), but I thought a little
> embellishment was in order.
>
> I don't know about other vehicles on the chart, but the '84-up Cherokee'
> row is insane. It says 31s will fit stock with no cutting. No way. 29s
> might fit stock, but 30s need a 1-2" boost to clear properly. 31s need
> 3". It says 33x12.50 will fit 3" with 'major trimming'. That's an
> understatement. Maybe someone's tried it, but I've never seen it. I've
> got 33x10.50 with 4.5" and when the front is fully flexed they just
> barely clear the ceiling with extended bump stops and the well liners
> removed. Also, the chart is misleading in what it doesn't say. There are
> commercially available XJ lifts 6, 8" and beyond that allow 34, 35"+
> tires. The chart omits this and thus implies 33x12.50 is the max size
> for an XJ. Bah! Am I babbling again? :)
>
> With this one row so bad, I wonder if the rest is any good. Do the
> CJ/YJ/TJ rows look okay?
>
> Steve