XM Satellite radio in Jeep Liberty
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Re: XM Satellite radio in Jeep Liberty
Every radio has an internal serial number.
Imbeded into the digital signal they awake your radio's brain
by sending the serial number over the satelite,
then command it (your radio) to turn off.
Same way as a pay tv box.
Tomes wrote:
> Hi Kate,
> I always wondered this, not having it: How do they know when your
> subscription runs out? Does the unit just turn off or something? What
> happens/how does this work?
> Tomes
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>
>>"QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com. ..
>>
>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>after sampling both online.
>>>Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>replacements for the Libby.
>>>Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>Your comments are appreciated.
>>>Thanks
>>
>>My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be of
>>little help to you.
>>I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in the
>>front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the selections on
>>the 'mode' button.
>>
>>The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine from
>>my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a direct swap,
>>no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>"Prug and Pray"
>>
>>I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it in
>>a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the switch
>>too.
>>We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part of
>>our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>
>>I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily make
>>the switch.
>>
>>Best of luck to you!
>>
>>Kate
>>
>>
>
>
>
Imbeded into the digital signal they awake your radio's brain
by sending the serial number over the satelite,
then command it (your radio) to turn off.
Same way as a pay tv box.
Tomes wrote:
> Hi Kate,
> I always wondered this, not having it: How do they know when your
> subscription runs out? Does the unit just turn off or something? What
> happens/how does this work?
> Tomes
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>
>>"QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com. ..
>>
>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>after sampling both online.
>>>Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>replacements for the Libby.
>>>Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>Your comments are appreciated.
>>>Thanks
>>
>>My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be of
>>little help to you.
>>I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in the
>>front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the selections on
>>the 'mode' button.
>>
>>The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine from
>>my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a direct swap,
>>no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>"Prug and Pray"
>>
>>I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it in
>>a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the switch
>>too.
>>We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part of
>>our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>
>>I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily make
>>the switch.
>>
>>Best of luck to you!
>>
>>Kate
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: XM Satellite radio in Jeep Liberty
"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
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> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hcWdncW8yM6khFHZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>> "QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com...
>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>> I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>> Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>> after sampling both online.
>>>> Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>> Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>> replacements for the Libby.
>>>> Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>> jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>> FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>> and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>> they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>> Your comments are appreciated.
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be of
>>> little help to you.
>>> I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in
>>> the front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the
>>> selections on the 'mode' button.
>>>
>>> The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>> from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a direct
>>> swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>> "Prug and Pray"
>>>
>>> I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>> in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>> switch too.
>>> We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>> of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>
>>
>> I live in the relative boonies too, and have satellite TV. My TV has
>> Sirius on it, and I had XM in the car. I like the music programming on
>> Sirius better. Basically, my experience is precisely ooposite of yours.
>>
>>
>>> I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily
>>> make the switch.
>>>
>>
>> Nobody gives the choice. When you elect to buy a new car, the car maker
>> signs a contract with satellite providers that locks you into either
>> Sirius or XM.
>
> Motor Trend's September 2006 issue which had the 2007-2008 new cars all
> listed within says this for the Scion xA: "Cool Fact: Seeking to please
> radioheads of all stripes, Scion offers the xA with either Sirius or XM
> Satellite systems."
That is a new development. My brother has a Scion tC with XM as the only
supported factory option.
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Re: XM Satellite radio in Jeep Liberty
"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
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> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hcWdncW8yM6khFHZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>> "QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com...
>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>> I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>> Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>> after sampling both online.
>>>> Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>> Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>> replacements for the Libby.
>>>> Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>> jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>> FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>> and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>> they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>> Your comments are appreciated.
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be of
>>> little help to you.
>>> I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in
>>> the front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the
>>> selections on the 'mode' button.
>>>
>>> The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>> from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a direct
>>> swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>> "Prug and Pray"
>>>
>>> I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>> in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>> switch too.
>>> We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>> of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>
>>
>> I live in the relative boonies too, and have satellite TV. My TV has
>> Sirius on it, and I had XM in the car. I like the music programming on
>> Sirius better. Basically, my experience is precisely ooposite of yours.
>>
>>
>>> I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily
>>> make the switch.
>>>
>>
>> Nobody gives the choice. When you elect to buy a new car, the car maker
>> signs a contract with satellite providers that locks you into either
>> Sirius or XM.
>
> Motor Trend's September 2006 issue which had the 2007-2008 new cars all
> listed within says this for the Scion xA: "Cool Fact: Seeking to please
> radioheads of all stripes, Scion offers the xA with either Sirius or XM
> Satellite systems."
That is a new development. My brother has a Scion tC with XM as the only
supported factory option.
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Re: XM Satellite radio in Jeep Liberty
"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
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> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hcWdncW8yM6khFHZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>> "QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com...
>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>> I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>> Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>> after sampling both online.
>>>> Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>> Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>> replacements for the Libby.
>>>> Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>> jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>> FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>> and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>> they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>> Your comments are appreciated.
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be of
>>> little help to you.
>>> I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in
>>> the front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the
>>> selections on the 'mode' button.
>>>
>>> The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>> from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a direct
>>> swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>> "Prug and Pray"
>>>
>>> I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>> in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>> switch too.
>>> We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>> of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>
>>
>> I live in the relative boonies too, and have satellite TV. My TV has
>> Sirius on it, and I had XM in the car. I like the music programming on
>> Sirius better. Basically, my experience is precisely ooposite of yours.
>>
>>
>>> I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily
>>> make the switch.
>>>
>>
>> Nobody gives the choice. When you elect to buy a new car, the car maker
>> signs a contract with satellite providers that locks you into either
>> Sirius or XM.
>
> Motor Trend's September 2006 issue which had the 2007-2008 new cars all
> listed within says this for the Scion xA: "Cool Fact: Seeking to please
> radioheads of all stripes, Scion offers the xA with either Sirius or XM
> Satellite systems."
That is a new development. My brother has a Scion tC with XM as the only
supported factory option.
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Re: XM Satellite radio in Jeep Liberty
"Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
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> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hcWdncW8yM6khFHZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>> "QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com...
>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>> I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>> Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>> after sampling both online.
>>>> Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>> Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>> replacements for the Libby.
>>>> Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>> jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>> FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>> and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>> they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>> Your comments are appreciated.
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be of
>>> little help to you.
>>> I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in
>>> the front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the
>>> selections on the 'mode' button.
>>>
>>> The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>> from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a direct
>>> swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>> "Prug and Pray"
>>>
>>> I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>> in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>> switch too.
>>> We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>> of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>
>>
>> I live in the relative boonies too, and have satellite TV. My TV has
>> Sirius on it, and I had XM in the car. I like the music programming on
>> Sirius better. Basically, my experience is precisely ooposite of yours.
>>
>>
>>> I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily
>>> make the switch.
>>>
>>
>> Nobody gives the choice. When you elect to buy a new car, the car maker
>> signs a contract with satellite providers that locks you into either
>> Sirius or XM.
>
> Motor Trend's September 2006 issue which had the 2007-2008 new cars all
> listed within says this for the Scion xA: "Cool Fact: Seeking to please
> radioheads of all stripes, Scion offers the xA with either Sirius or XM
> Satellite systems."
That is a new development. My brother has a Scion tC with XM as the only
supported factory option.
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Re: XM Satellite radio in Jeep Liberty
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:KXzzg.795$xp2.503@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hcWdncW8yM6khFHZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>> "QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com...
>>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>>> I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>>> Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>>> after sampling both online.
>>>>> Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>>> Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>>> replacements for the Libby.
>>>>> Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>>> jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>>> FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>>> and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>>> they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>>> Your comments are appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be
>>>> of little help to you.
>>>> I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in
>>>> the front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the
>>>> selections on the 'mode' button.
>>>>
>>>> The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>>> from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a
>>>> direct swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>>> "Prug and Pray"
>>>>
>>>> I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>>> in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>>> switch too.
>>>> We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>>> of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I live in the relative boonies too, and have satellite TV. My TV has
>>> Sirius on it, and I had XM in the car. I like the music programming on
>>> Sirius better. Basically, my experience is precisely ooposite of yours.
>>>
>>>> I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily
>>>> make the switch.
>>>
>>> Nobody gives the choice. When you elect to buy a new car, the car maker
>>> signs a contract with satellite providers that locks you into either
>>> Sirius or XM.
>>
>> Motor Trend's September 2006 issue which had the 2007-2008 new cars all
>> listed within says this for the Scion xA: "Cool Fact: Seeking to please
>> radioheads of all stripes, Scion offers the xA with either Sirius or XM
>> Satellite systems."
>
> That is a new development. My brother has a Scion tC with XM as the only
> supported factory option.
>
Yeah, it surprised me too when I read that a couple of days ago.
Tomes
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> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:KXzzg.795$xp2.503@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hcWdncW8yM6khFHZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>> "QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com...
>>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>>> I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>>> Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>>> after sampling both online.
>>>>> Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>>> Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>>> replacements for the Libby.
>>>>> Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>>> jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>>> FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>>> and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>>> they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>>> Your comments are appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be
>>>> of little help to you.
>>>> I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in
>>>> the front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the
>>>> selections on the 'mode' button.
>>>>
>>>> The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>>> from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a
>>>> direct swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>>> "Prug and Pray"
>>>>
>>>> I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>>> in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>>> switch too.
>>>> We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>>> of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I live in the relative boonies too, and have satellite TV. My TV has
>>> Sirius on it, and I had XM in the car. I like the music programming on
>>> Sirius better. Basically, my experience is precisely ooposite of yours.
>>>
>>>> I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily
>>>> make the switch.
>>>
>>> Nobody gives the choice. When you elect to buy a new car, the car maker
>>> signs a contract with satellite providers that locks you into either
>>> Sirius or XM.
>>
>> Motor Trend's September 2006 issue which had the 2007-2008 new cars all
>> listed within says this for the Scion xA: "Cool Fact: Seeking to please
>> radioheads of all stripes, Scion offers the xA with either Sirius or XM
>> Satellite systems."
>
> That is a new development. My brother has a Scion tC with XM as the only
> supported factory option.
>
Yeah, it surprised me too when I read that a couple of days ago.
Tomes
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Re: XM Satellite radio in Jeep Liberty
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:KXzzg.795$xp2.503@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hcWdncW8yM6khFHZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>> "QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com...
>>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>>> I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>>> Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>>> after sampling both online.
>>>>> Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>>> Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>>> replacements for the Libby.
>>>>> Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>>> jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>>> FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>>> and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>>> they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>>> Your comments are appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be
>>>> of little help to you.
>>>> I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in
>>>> the front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the
>>>> selections on the 'mode' button.
>>>>
>>>> The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>>> from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a
>>>> direct swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>>> "Prug and Pray"
>>>>
>>>> I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>>> in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>>> switch too.
>>>> We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>>> of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I live in the relative boonies too, and have satellite TV. My TV has
>>> Sirius on it, and I had XM in the car. I like the music programming on
>>> Sirius better. Basically, my experience is precisely ooposite of yours.
>>>
>>>> I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily
>>>> make the switch.
>>>
>>> Nobody gives the choice. When you elect to buy a new car, the car maker
>>> signs a contract with satellite providers that locks you into either
>>> Sirius or XM.
>>
>> Motor Trend's September 2006 issue which had the 2007-2008 new cars all
>> listed within says this for the Scion xA: "Cool Fact: Seeking to please
>> radioheads of all stripes, Scion offers the xA with either Sirius or XM
>> Satellite systems."
>
> That is a new development. My brother has a Scion tC with XM as the only
> supported factory option.
>
Yeah, it surprised me too when I read that a couple of days ago.
Tomes
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> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:KXzzg.795$xp2.503@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hcWdncW8yM6khFHZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>> "QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com...
>>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>>> I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>>> Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>>> after sampling both online.
>>>>> Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>>> Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>>> replacements for the Libby.
>>>>> Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>>> jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>>> FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>>> and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>>> they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>>> Your comments are appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be
>>>> of little help to you.
>>>> I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in
>>>> the front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the
>>>> selections on the 'mode' button.
>>>>
>>>> The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>>> from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a
>>>> direct swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>>> "Prug and Pray"
>>>>
>>>> I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>>> in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>>> switch too.
>>>> We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>>> of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I live in the relative boonies too, and have satellite TV. My TV has
>>> Sirius on it, and I had XM in the car. I like the music programming on
>>> Sirius better. Basically, my experience is precisely ooposite of yours.
>>>
>>>> I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily
>>>> make the switch.
>>>
>>> Nobody gives the choice. When you elect to buy a new car, the car maker
>>> signs a contract with satellite providers that locks you into either
>>> Sirius or XM.
>>
>> Motor Trend's September 2006 issue which had the 2007-2008 new cars all
>> listed within says this for the Scion xA: "Cool Fact: Seeking to please
>> radioheads of all stripes, Scion offers the xA with either Sirius or XM
>> Satellite systems."
>
> That is a new development. My brother has a Scion tC with XM as the only
> supported factory option.
>
Yeah, it surprised me too when I read that a couple of days ago.
Tomes
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:KXzzg.795$xp2.503@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hcWdncW8yM6khFHZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>> "QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com...
>>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>>> I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>>> Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>>> after sampling both online.
>>>>> Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>>> Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>>> replacements for the Libby.
>>>>> Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>>> jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>>> FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>>> and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>>> they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>>> Your comments are appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be
>>>> of little help to you.
>>>> I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in
>>>> the front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the
>>>> selections on the 'mode' button.
>>>>
>>>> The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>>> from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a
>>>> direct swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>>> "Prug and Pray"
>>>>
>>>> I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>>> in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>>> switch too.
>>>> We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>>> of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I live in the relative boonies too, and have satellite TV. My TV has
>>> Sirius on it, and I had XM in the car. I like the music programming on
>>> Sirius better. Basically, my experience is precisely ooposite of yours.
>>>
>>>> I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily
>>>> make the switch.
>>>
>>> Nobody gives the choice. When you elect to buy a new car, the car maker
>>> signs a contract with satellite providers that locks you into either
>>> Sirius or XM.
>>
>> Motor Trend's September 2006 issue which had the 2007-2008 new cars all
>> listed within says this for the Scion xA: "Cool Fact: Seeking to please
>> radioheads of all stripes, Scion offers the xA with either Sirius or XM
>> Satellite systems."
>
> That is a new development. My brother has a Scion tC with XM as the only
> supported factory option.
>
Yeah, it surprised me too when I read that a couple of days ago.
Tomes
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> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:KXzzg.795$xp2.503@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hcWdncW8yM6khFHZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>> "QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com...
>>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>>> I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>>> Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>>> after sampling both online.
>>>>> Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>>> Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>>> replacements for the Libby.
>>>>> Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>>> jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>>> FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>>> and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>>> they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>>> Your comments are appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be
>>>> of little help to you.
>>>> I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in
>>>> the front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the
>>>> selections on the 'mode' button.
>>>>
>>>> The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>>> from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a
>>>> direct swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>>> "Prug and Pray"
>>>>
>>>> I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>>> in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>>> switch too.
>>>> We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>>> of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I live in the relative boonies too, and have satellite TV. My TV has
>>> Sirius on it, and I had XM in the car. I like the music programming on
>>> Sirius better. Basically, my experience is precisely ooposite of yours.
>>>
>>>> I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily
>>>> make the switch.
>>>
>>> Nobody gives the choice. When you elect to buy a new car, the car maker
>>> signs a contract with satellite providers that locks you into either
>>> Sirius or XM.
>>
>> Motor Trend's September 2006 issue which had the 2007-2008 new cars all
>> listed within says this for the Scion xA: "Cool Fact: Seeking to please
>> radioheads of all stripes, Scion offers the xA with either Sirius or XM
>> Satellite systems."
>
> That is a new development. My brother has a Scion tC with XM as the only
> supported factory option.
>
Yeah, it surprised me too when I read that a couple of days ago.
Tomes
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Re: XM Satellite radio in Jeep Liberty
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:KXzzg.795$xp2.503@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hcWdncW8yM6khFHZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>> "QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com...
>>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>>> I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>>> Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>>> after sampling both online.
>>>>> Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>>> Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>>> replacements for the Libby.
>>>>> Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>>> jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>>> FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>>> and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>>> they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>>> Your comments are appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be
>>>> of little help to you.
>>>> I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in
>>>> the front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the
>>>> selections on the 'mode' button.
>>>>
>>>> The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>>> from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a
>>>> direct swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>>> "Prug and Pray"
>>>>
>>>> I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>>> in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>>> switch too.
>>>> We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>>> of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I live in the relative boonies too, and have satellite TV. My TV has
>>> Sirius on it, and I had XM in the car. I like the music programming on
>>> Sirius better. Basically, my experience is precisely ooposite of yours.
>>>
>>>> I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily
>>>> make the switch.
>>>
>>> Nobody gives the choice. When you elect to buy a new car, the car maker
>>> signs a contract with satellite providers that locks you into either
>>> Sirius or XM.
>>
>> Motor Trend's September 2006 issue which had the 2007-2008 new cars all
>> listed within says this for the Scion xA: "Cool Fact: Seeking to please
>> radioheads of all stripes, Scion offers the xA with either Sirius or XM
>> Satellite systems."
>
> That is a new development. My brother has a Scion tC with XM as the only
> supported factory option.
>
Yeah, it surprised me too when I read that a couple of days ago.
Tomes
news:FcadnckMD4hobVLZnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@ez2.net...
> "Tomes" <askme@here.net> wrote in message
> news:KXzzg.795$xp2.503@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hcWdncW8yM6khFHZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>> "QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com...
>>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>>> I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>>> Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>>> after sampling both online.
>>>>> Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>>> Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>>> replacements for the Libby.
>>>>> Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>>> jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>>> FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>>> and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>>> they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>>> Your comments are appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be
>>>> of little help to you.
>>>> I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in
>>>> the front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the
>>>> selections on the 'mode' button.
>>>>
>>>> The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>>> from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a
>>>> direct swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>>> "Prug and Pray"
>>>>
>>>> I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>>> in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>>> switch too.
>>>> We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>>> of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I live in the relative boonies too, and have satellite TV. My TV has
>>> Sirius on it, and I had XM in the car. I like the music programming on
>>> Sirius better. Basically, my experience is precisely ooposite of yours.
>>>
>>>> I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily
>>>> make the switch.
>>>
>>> Nobody gives the choice. When you elect to buy a new car, the car maker
>>> signs a contract with satellite providers that locks you into either
>>> Sirius or XM.
>>
>> Motor Trend's September 2006 issue which had the 2007-2008 new cars all
>> listed within says this for the Scion xA: "Cool Fact: Seeking to please
>> radioheads of all stripes, Scion offers the xA with either Sirius or XM
>> Satellite systems."
>
> That is a new development. My brother has a Scion tC with XM as the only
> supported factory option.
>
Yeah, it surprised me too when I read that a couple of days ago.
Tomes
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Hey thanks Frank, much appreciated. I thought it would be the same scheme
for both satellite thingies.
Now I know. One less mystery in my world....
Tomes
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:7sqdnf5VG9n7NlLZnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Every radio has an internal serial number.
> Imbeded into the digital signal they awake your radio's brain
> by sending the serial number over the satelite,
> then command it (your radio) to turn off.
> Same way as a pay tv box.
>
> Tomes wrote:
>> Hi Kate,
>> I always wondered this, not having it: How do they know when your
>> subscription runs out? Does the unit just turn off or something? What
>> happens/how does this work?
>> Tomes
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>
>>>"QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com ...
>>>
>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>>I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>>Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>>after sampling both online.
>>>>Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>>Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>>replacements for the Libby.
>>>>Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>>jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>>FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>>and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>>they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>>Your comments are appreciated.
>>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be of
>>>little help to you.
>>>I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in the
>>>front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the selections
>>>on the 'mode' button.
>>>
>>>The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>>from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a direct
>>>swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>>"Prug and Pray"
>>>
>>>I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>>in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>>switch too.
>>>We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>>of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>
>>>I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily make
>>>the switch.
>>>
>>>Best of luck to you!
>>>
>>>Kate
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
for both satellite thingies.
Now I know. One less mystery in my world....
Tomes
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:7sqdnf5VG9n7NlLZnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Every radio has an internal serial number.
> Imbeded into the digital signal they awake your radio's brain
> by sending the serial number over the satelite,
> then command it (your radio) to turn off.
> Same way as a pay tv box.
>
> Tomes wrote:
>> Hi Kate,
>> I always wondered this, not having it: How do they know when your
>> subscription runs out? Does the unit just turn off or something? What
>> happens/how does this work?
>> Tomes
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
>> news:cpSyg.27273$Nt.20646@bignews8.bellsouth.net.. .
>>
>>>"QX" <nomail@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:q5jnc29ik56qfjfr2dkttbntcij8qmkkj7@4ax.com ...
>>>
>>>>I am planning to get a new Liberty next model year.
>>>>I see on the Jeep website that Daimler-Chrysler has an exclusive with
>>>>Sirius Satellite Radio, but I currently have XM-Radio, and prefer it
>>>>after sampling both online.
>>>>Anyone have any experience with installing an XM capable radio into a
>>>>Liberty? Crutchfield does not list anything as compatible direct dash
>>>>replacements for the Libby.
>>>>Does the 6 disc AM/FM model Jeep radio have separate input/output
>>>>jacks so I can direcly connect the XM output without having to use an
>>>>FM Modulator? I wish Daimler-Chrysler would give consumers a choice
>>>>and offer a choice between XM & Sirius compatible radios, but I guess
>>>>they got a deal with Sirius to be an exclusive.
>>>>Your comments are appreciated.
>>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>My personal experience is only what I can offer and most if it may be of
>>>little help to you.
>>>I do not know if there are jacks in the back, but there is nothing in the
>>>front. The Sirius is built in, in as far as being one of the selections
>>>on the 'mode' button.
>>>
>>>The 6 disk unit is able to swap from one Jeep to another. I took mine
>>>from my 06 liberty when I traded it in on my 06 Rubicon, it was a direct
>>>swap, no alterations of any kind were needed.
>>>"Prug and Pray"
>>>
>>>I hope that you DO get the information, and when you do, PLEASE post it
>>>in a thread. When my Sirius free year runs out, I will likely make the
>>>switch too.
>>>We have only Satellite TV out here in the boonies, and get XM as a part
>>>of our package, it is MUCH better than Sirius I think.
>>>
>>>I agree, I think DC should give us a choice or the ability to easily make
>>>the switch.
>>>
>>>Best of luck to you!
>>>
>>>Kate
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>