JD

Monte,
Don't know what dealer you used but there's a place in Burnsville off
Hwy 13 called Burnsville Off road that really knows there stuff about
Jeeps and you can trust them. As you might guess I'm not real thrilled
with the local Jeep dealers, Especially Park Jeep.
http://www.burnsvilleoffroad.com/home.html

Joe Carroll
Bloomington,MN


On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:38:30 -0600, Monte Castleman
<qmdcastle@skypoint.com> wrote:

>While having my 93 XJ I-6 auto inspected by the dealer, he diagnosed an
>oil leak as coming from the rear main seal. He suggested that it wasn't
>worth it to get it fixed, and suggested I just keep tabs on the oil
>level.
>
>A few days later, I had an independant mechanic change the front
>differential fluid (dealer said there was water in there, but there
>wasn't- go figure). This mechanic said that the seal might leak a little
>oil for a time, but then catastrophically fail at an inconveniant time.
>
>So, any ideas if I should have the seal fixed or leave it? At the moment
>it's slow enough that it's not even an annoyance.

JD
2K-TJ

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JD

Monte,
Don't know what dealer you used but there's a place in Burnsville off
Hwy 13 called Burnsville Off road that really knows there stuff about
Jeeps and you can trust them. As you might guess I'm not real thrilled
with the local Jeep dealers, Especially Park Jeep.
http://www.burnsvilleoffroad.com/home.html

Joe Carroll
Bloomington,MN


On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:38:30 -0600, Monte Castleman
<qmdcastle@skypoint.com> wrote:

>While having my 93 XJ I-6 auto inspected by the dealer, he diagnosed an
>oil leak as coming from the rear main seal. He suggested that it wasn't
>worth it to get it fixed, and suggested I just keep tabs on the oil
>level.
>
>A few days later, I had an independant mechanic change the front
>differential fluid (dealer said there was water in there, but there
>wasn't- go figure). This mechanic said that the seal might leak a little
>oil for a time, but then catastrophically fail at an inconveniant time.
>
>So, any ideas if I should have the seal fixed or leave it? At the moment
>it's slow enough that it's not even an annoyance.

JD
2K-TJ

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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

"A few days later, I had an independant mechanic change the front
differential fluid (dealer said there was water in there, but there
wasn't- go figure). This mechanic said that the seal might leak a little
oil for a time, but then catastrophically fail at an inconveniant time."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> I didn't see any confirmation from the mechanic at all. What he said,
> according to the poster, was that it might leak a little for a while, then
> fail catastrophically at an inopportune moment. The mechanic may very well
> have given a backup diagnosis, but the original posted did not tell us of
> it. All we know for sure is that the dealership said the rear main was gone.
> We all know that this is a commonly mis-diagnosed problem, and we should not
> be surprised that the dealer might get it wrong.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

"A few days later, I had an independant mechanic change the front
differential fluid (dealer said there was water in there, but there
wasn't- go figure). This mechanic said that the seal might leak a little
oil for a time, but then catastrophically fail at an inconveniant time."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> I didn't see any confirmation from the mechanic at all. What he said,
> according to the poster, was that it might leak a little for a while, then
> fail catastrophically at an inopportune moment. The mechanic may very well
> have given a backup diagnosis, but the original posted did not tell us of
> it. All we know for sure is that the dealership said the rear main was gone.
> We all know that this is a commonly mis-diagnosed problem, and we should not
> be surprised that the dealer might get it wrong.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

"A few days later, I had an independant mechanic change the front
differential fluid (dealer said there was water in there, but there
wasn't- go figure). This mechanic said that the seal might leak a little
oil for a time, but then catastrophically fail at an inconveniant time."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> I didn't see any confirmation from the mechanic at all. What he said,
> according to the poster, was that it might leak a little for a while, then
> fail catastrophically at an inopportune moment. The mechanic may very well
> have given a backup diagnosis, but the original posted did not tell us of
> it. All we know for sure is that the dealership said the rear main was gone.
> We all know that this is a commonly mis-diagnosed problem, and we should not
> be surprised that the dealer might get it wrong.

CRWLR

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FC50D76.35492ABD@***.net...
> "A few days later, I had an independant mechanic change the front
> differential fluid (dealer said there was water in there, but there
> wasn't- go figure). This mechanic said that the seal might leak a little
> oil for a time, but then catastrophically fail at an inconveniant time."

This is not a confirmation that the rear main in fact IS LEAKING. All it is,
is a statement that if it is leaking, it can leak for a long time before it
completely fails.

Despite all of this, we all know that the Valve Cover Gasket does a very
good imitation of a rear main that has gone south. Before anything else is
done on the rear main, it must be confirmed that the VC gasket isn't the
real problem.

Then, if the rear main is gone, the repair should take about 2 or 3 hours
for a shop, and 3 or 4 hours at home.






> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > I didn't see any confirmation from the mechanic at all. What he said,
> > according to the poster, was that it might leak a little for a while,
then
> > fail catastrophically at an inopportune moment. The mechanic may very
well
> > have given a backup diagnosis, but the original posted did not tell us
of
> > it. All we know for sure is that the dealership said the rear main was
gone.
> > We all know that this is a commonly mis-diagnosed problem, and we should
not
> > be surprised that the dealer might get it wrong.

CRWLR

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FC50D76.35492ABD@***.net...
> "A few days later, I had an independant mechanic change the front
> differential fluid (dealer said there was water in there, but there
> wasn't- go figure). This mechanic said that the seal might leak a little
> oil for a time, but then catastrophically fail at an inconveniant time."

This is not a confirmation that the rear main in fact IS LEAKING. All it is,
is a statement that if it is leaking, it can leak for a long time before it
completely fails.

Despite all of this, we all know that the Valve Cover Gasket does a very
good imitation of a rear main that has gone south. Before anything else is
done on the rear main, it must be confirmed that the VC gasket isn't the
real problem.

Then, if the rear main is gone, the repair should take about 2 or 3 hours
for a shop, and 3 or 4 hours at home.






> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > I didn't see any confirmation from the mechanic at all. What he said,
> > according to the poster, was that it might leak a little for a while,
then
> > fail catastrophically at an inopportune moment. The mechanic may very
well
> > have given a backup diagnosis, but the original posted did not tell us
of
> > it. All we know for sure is that the dealership said the rear main was
gone.
> > We all know that this is a commonly mis-diagnosed problem, and we should
not
> > be surprised that the dealer might get it wrong.

CRWLR

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FC50D76.35492ABD@***.net...
> "A few days later, I had an independant mechanic change the front
> differential fluid (dealer said there was water in there, but there
> wasn't- go figure). This mechanic said that the seal might leak a little
> oil for a time, but then catastrophically fail at an inconveniant time."

This is not a confirmation that the rear main in fact IS LEAKING. All it is,
is a statement that if it is leaking, it can leak for a long time before it
completely fails.

Despite all of this, we all know that the Valve Cover Gasket does a very
good imitation of a rear main that has gone south. Before anything else is
done on the rear main, it must be confirmed that the VC gasket isn't the
real problem.

Then, if the rear main is gone, the repair should take about 2 or 3 hours
for a shop, and 3 or 4 hours at home.






> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > I didn't see any confirmation from the mechanic at all. What he said,
> > according to the poster, was that it might leak a little for a while,
then
> > fail catastrophically at an inopportune moment. The mechanic may very
well
> > have given a backup diagnosis, but the original posted did not tell us
of
> > it. All we know for sure is that the dealership said the rear main was
gone.
> > We all know that this is a commonly mis-diagnosed problem, and we should
not
> > be surprised that the dealer might get it wrong.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Jeff, I will remind you, I used the term "seamed" which is like
guessing, right? Anyway, the mechanic set him up for the kill, as I did
in those days.
What it actually takes and the Flat Rate, are two different things.
Guess which one will be used.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> This is not a confirmation that the rear main in fact IS LEAKING. All it is,
> is a statement that if it is leaking, it can leak for a long time before it
> completely fails.
>
> Despite all of this, we all know that the Valve Cover Gasket does a very
> good imitation of a rear main that has gone south. Before anything else is
> done on the rear main, it must be confirmed that the VC gasket isn't the
> real problem.
>
> Then, if the rear main is gone, the repair should take about 2 or 3 hours
> for a shop, and 3 or 4 hours at home.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Jeff, I will remind you, I used the term "seamed" which is like
guessing, right? Anyway, the mechanic set him up for the kill, as I did
in those days.
What it actually takes and the Flat Rate, are two different things.
Guess which one will be used.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> This is not a confirmation that the rear main in fact IS LEAKING. All it is,
> is a statement that if it is leaking, it can leak for a long time before it
> completely fails.
>
> Despite all of this, we all know that the Valve Cover Gasket does a very
> good imitation of a rear main that has gone south. Before anything else is
> done on the rear main, it must be confirmed that the VC gasket isn't the
> real problem.
>
> Then, if the rear main is gone, the repair should take about 2 or 3 hours
> for a shop, and 3 or 4 hours at home.