XJ Headliner delamination
06-17-2005, 10:41 PM
#21
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Re: XJ Headliner delamination
Dana Rohleder wrote:
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but there
> were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a total
> delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my bald head -
> kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
I'll bet you're tempted to take the straw off a can of WD-40, plug it
into a can of spray adhesive and try poking it up into the bubbles,
right? I tried that. It won't work.
This is something I wrote here a while back, right after regluing my `89
Cherokee's headliner:
The headliner: You can repair it yourself. Start with the dome lights,
pop out the lense, the lamp (it gets hot!) twist out the press-on
spring-steel nuts with pliers and unplug the dome light assembly. Then
start at the back. Remove the trim at the edge of the liner over the
rear hatch, then the side pieces (don't bother seperate them, just take
out the screws and pull the metal pieces away from the plastic over the
door.)
Each metal side piece has a white plastic spacer captured by a screw, it
will fall out at you when you pull it out. Pry the caps off the
over-door grab handles (not too hard, they're anchored at the outer edge
of the base), remove two Torx scews from each, let the trim flop out of
the way.
The trim over the driver's door has a moulded-in barbed fastener, just
pull it away from the roof. Pry out the caps over the screws in the
trim on each windshield pillar, remove the screws and let the trim flop
around.
Remove the visors, if you have the vanity mirror you'll have to unplug
the wires behind the right pillar trim.
The headliner is a fabric piece backed with foam rubber and glued to a
formed fiberglass shell. The foam rots and lets the fabric droop. The
fiberglass shell is attached at the front by two heavy-duty velcro"-type
strips. Give it a good pull, either the velcro will part or it will
pull away from the fiberglass. If it does just glue it back on. The
shell is supported along the sides by a couple of U-channel clips,
nothing fancy.
Release it all the way around and pull it out through the rear hatch.
Lay the liner fabric side up and release the edges (they don't rot -- go
figure), work your way to the center so you can fold the fabric over
itself. Don't pull it all the way off, you'll never get it lined up
again, just go to the center line. Brush away any remaining rotted
foam. _All_ of it, otherwise you'll be gluing your headliner to rotten
foam and it will fall again, and you'll be unhappy.
Using 3M Spray Trim Adhesive (the kind that says on the label "Not for
repairing headliners" --seriously) spray an 8" strip lengthwise on the
shell and the back of the fabric. Pull the fabric over, smooth it out,
repeat on another 8" swath until you get to the edge. Don't try to glue
the entire half in one go because you'll never get the fabric to lay
flat without sticking in the wrong place or to itself. Now release the
other half and repeat. Let the solvents boil off for a couple of days
-- you don't want to be in a closed car with this stuff.
Reinstall the way it came out. Line up the rear edge and press up to
make the velcro grab, replace all the trim parts from the front to the back.
Enjoy!
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but there
> were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a total
> delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my bald head -
> kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
I'll bet you're tempted to take the straw off a can of WD-40, plug it
into a can of spray adhesive and try poking it up into the bubbles,
right? I tried that. It won't work.
This is something I wrote here a while back, right after regluing my `89
Cherokee's headliner:
The headliner: You can repair it yourself. Start with the dome lights,
pop out the lense, the lamp (it gets hot!) twist out the press-on
spring-steel nuts with pliers and unplug the dome light assembly. Then
start at the back. Remove the trim at the edge of the liner over the
rear hatch, then the side pieces (don't bother seperate them, just take
out the screws and pull the metal pieces away from the plastic over the
door.)
Each metal side piece has a white plastic spacer captured by a screw, it
will fall out at you when you pull it out. Pry the caps off the
over-door grab handles (not too hard, they're anchored at the outer edge
of the base), remove two Torx scews from each, let the trim flop out of
the way.
The trim over the driver's door has a moulded-in barbed fastener, just
pull it away from the roof. Pry out the caps over the screws in the
trim on each windshield pillar, remove the screws and let the trim flop
around.
Remove the visors, if you have the vanity mirror you'll have to unplug
the wires behind the right pillar trim.
The headliner is a fabric piece backed with foam rubber and glued to a
formed fiberglass shell. The foam rots and lets the fabric droop. The
fiberglass shell is attached at the front by two heavy-duty velcro"-type
strips. Give it a good pull, either the velcro will part or it will
pull away from the fiberglass. If it does just glue it back on. The
shell is supported along the sides by a couple of U-channel clips,
nothing fancy.
Release it all the way around and pull it out through the rear hatch.
Lay the liner fabric side up and release the edges (they don't rot -- go
figure), work your way to the center so you can fold the fabric over
itself. Don't pull it all the way off, you'll never get it lined up
again, just go to the center line. Brush away any remaining rotted
foam. _All_ of it, otherwise you'll be gluing your headliner to rotten
foam and it will fall again, and you'll be unhappy.
Using 3M Spray Trim Adhesive (the kind that says on the label "Not for
repairing headliners" --seriously) spray an 8" strip lengthwise on the
shell and the back of the fabric. Pull the fabric over, smooth it out,
repeat on another 8" swath until you get to the edge. Don't try to glue
the entire half in one go because you'll never get the fabric to lay
flat without sticking in the wrong place or to itself. Now release the
other half and repeat. Let the solvents boil off for a couple of days
-- you don't want to be in a closed car with this stuff.
Reinstall the way it came out. Line up the rear edge and press up to
make the velcro grab, replace all the trim parts from the front to the back.
Enjoy!
06-18-2005, 04:04 AM
#22
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Re: XJ Headliner delamination
You can buy several colors of the headliner material from JC Whitney. I
have repaired several for friends and my self. The best thing is to remove
the headliner completely, remove all material from the liner. The foam
backing comes off pretty easily just by rubbing with a green kitchen pad.
Once clean and free of the old stuff, spray the liner with contact adhesive
and the back of the new material. Let dry to the touch, place some
newspapers on the liner they will not stick. Carefully place the new
material on top of the newspaper. Fold one side of the new material back
remove 1/2 of the newspaper. Slowly from the center to the edge start
mating the material with the liner. It takes one-person holding the
material and the other to mate the material, do the same with the other side
.. Roll about 1 inch over the edges to finish.
--
Coasty
Semper Paratus
(Always Ready)
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
have repaired several for friends and my self. The best thing is to remove
the headliner completely, remove all material from the liner. The foam
backing comes off pretty easily just by rubbing with a green kitchen pad.
Once clean and free of the old stuff, spray the liner with contact adhesive
and the back of the new material. Let dry to the touch, place some
newspapers on the liner they will not stick. Carefully place the new
material on top of the newspaper. Fold one side of the new material back
remove 1/2 of the newspaper. Slowly from the center to the edge start
mating the material with the liner. It takes one-person holding the
material and the other to mate the material, do the same with the other side
.. Roll about 1 inch over the edges to finish.
--
Coasty
Semper Paratus
(Always Ready)
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
06-18-2005, 04:04 AM
#23
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Re: XJ Headliner delamination
You can buy several colors of the headliner material from JC Whitney. I
have repaired several for friends and my self. The best thing is to remove
the headliner completely, remove all material from the liner. The foam
backing comes off pretty easily just by rubbing with a green kitchen pad.
Once clean and free of the old stuff, spray the liner with contact adhesive
and the back of the new material. Let dry to the touch, place some
newspapers on the liner they will not stick. Carefully place the new
material on top of the newspaper. Fold one side of the new material back
remove 1/2 of the newspaper. Slowly from the center to the edge start
mating the material with the liner. It takes one-person holding the
material and the other to mate the material, do the same with the other side
.. Roll about 1 inch over the edges to finish.
--
Coasty
Semper Paratus
(Always Ready)
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
have repaired several for friends and my self. The best thing is to remove
the headliner completely, remove all material from the liner. The foam
backing comes off pretty easily just by rubbing with a green kitchen pad.
Once clean and free of the old stuff, spray the liner with contact adhesive
and the back of the new material. Let dry to the touch, place some
newspapers on the liner they will not stick. Carefully place the new
material on top of the newspaper. Fold one side of the new material back
remove 1/2 of the newspaper. Slowly from the center to the edge start
mating the material with the liner. It takes one-person holding the
material and the other to mate the material, do the same with the other side
.. Roll about 1 inch over the edges to finish.
--
Coasty
Semper Paratus
(Always Ready)
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
06-18-2005, 04:04 AM
#24
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Re: XJ Headliner delamination
You can buy several colors of the headliner material from JC Whitney. I
have repaired several for friends and my self. The best thing is to remove
the headliner completely, remove all material from the liner. The foam
backing comes off pretty easily just by rubbing with a green kitchen pad.
Once clean and free of the old stuff, spray the liner with contact adhesive
and the back of the new material. Let dry to the touch, place some
newspapers on the liner they will not stick. Carefully place the new
material on top of the newspaper. Fold one side of the new material back
remove 1/2 of the newspaper. Slowly from the center to the edge start
mating the material with the liner. It takes one-person holding the
material and the other to mate the material, do the same with the other side
.. Roll about 1 inch over the edges to finish.
--
Coasty
Semper Paratus
(Always Ready)
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
have repaired several for friends and my self. The best thing is to remove
the headliner completely, remove all material from the liner. The foam
backing comes off pretty easily just by rubbing with a green kitchen pad.
Once clean and free of the old stuff, spray the liner with contact adhesive
and the back of the new material. Let dry to the touch, place some
newspapers on the liner they will not stick. Carefully place the new
material on top of the newspaper. Fold one side of the new material back
remove 1/2 of the newspaper. Slowly from the center to the edge start
mating the material with the liner. It takes one-person holding the
material and the other to mate the material, do the same with the other side
.. Roll about 1 inch over the edges to finish.
--
Coasty
Semper Paratus
(Always Ready)
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
06-18-2005, 04:04 AM
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: XJ Headliner delamination
You can buy several colors of the headliner material from JC Whitney. I
have repaired several for friends and my self. The best thing is to remove
the headliner completely, remove all material from the liner. The foam
backing comes off pretty easily just by rubbing with a green kitchen pad.
Once clean and free of the old stuff, spray the liner with contact adhesive
and the back of the new material. Let dry to the touch, place some
newspapers on the liner they will not stick. Carefully place the new
material on top of the newspaper. Fold one side of the new material back
remove 1/2 of the newspaper. Slowly from the center to the edge start
mating the material with the liner. It takes one-person holding the
material and the other to mate the material, do the same with the other side
.. Roll about 1 inch over the edges to finish.
--
Coasty
Semper Paratus
(Always Ready)
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
have repaired several for friends and my self. The best thing is to remove
the headliner completely, remove all material from the liner. The foam
backing comes off pretty easily just by rubbing with a green kitchen pad.
Once clean and free of the old stuff, spray the liner with contact adhesive
and the back of the new material. Let dry to the touch, place some
newspapers on the liner they will not stick. Carefully place the new
material on top of the newspaper. Fold one side of the new material back
remove 1/2 of the newspaper. Slowly from the center to the edge start
mating the material with the liner. It takes one-person holding the
material and the other to mate the material, do the same with the other side
.. Roll about 1 inch over the edges to finish.
--
Coasty
Semper Paratus
(Always Ready)
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
06-21-2005, 10:58 AM
#26
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Re: XJ Headliner delamination
How cheap do you want? A local shop replaced mine with a new one labor and
all for 90 bucks.
KH
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
all for 90 bucks.
KH
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
06-21-2005, 10:58 AM
#27
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Re: XJ Headliner delamination
How cheap do you want? A local shop replaced mine with a new one labor and
all for 90 bucks.
KH
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
all for 90 bucks.
KH
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
06-21-2005, 10:58 AM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: XJ Headliner delamination
How cheap do you want? A local shop replaced mine with a new one labor and
all for 90 bucks.
KH
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
all for 90 bucks.
KH
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
06-21-2005, 10:58 AM
#29
Guest
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Re: XJ Headliner delamination
How cheap do you want? A local shop replaced mine with a new one labor and
all for 90 bucks.
KH
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
all for 90 bucks.
KH
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:QSese.3657$uS2.1973@fe03.lga...
> Does anyone know a cheap fix for headliner delamination? One friend used
> wooden slats as if it were boat canvas, and it looked pretty good, but
> there were still sags between the slats. My headliner is "bubbling", not a
> total delam yet, but the biggest bubble is over my seat and rubs on my
> bald head - kinda annoying unless you wear a hat!
> --
> Dana
> Port Kent, NY
>
> 2002 Saturn LW300
> 93 Jeep YJ
> 90 Jeep XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee 4dr
> 76 Cherokee 2dr
>
>
06-21-2005, 02:03 PM
#30
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Re: XJ Headliner delamination
Same here, except that was fifteen years ago.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> How cheap do you want? A local shop replaced mine with a new one labor and
> all for 90 bucks.
> KH
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> How cheap do you want? A local shop replaced mine with a new one labor and
> all for 90 bucks.
> KH
