XJ clutch not disengaging completely
 

Hi,

I have a '98 XJ with 187k miles on it. Ever since I got it 8 months ago,
the clutch has been hitting the floor when fully depressed. Now, it
often doesn't shift as smoothly as it used to. (Pops out fine, but
doesn't go into next gear as easily.) It's always had a longer clutch
spin down time than other cars I've had, but until now I thought that
might be normal.

The part that seems strange to me, is that it isn't very consistent.
Sometimes, if I take too long moving through neutral, it will make noise
when I put it in reverse. Other times, I can put it in neutral, release
the clutch, press the clutch, wait a few seconds, and put it in neutral
without any noise. So sometimes the clutch will spin down in a few
seconds, and other times it spins up when it should be disengaged.

Any idea what could be causing this?

The fluid reservoir is filled to the top, and has been since I got it.

Another thing is that it is sometimes a bit shaky when starting from a
stop, but it only seems to happen if the engine is spinning slower than
1krpm while engaging the clutch.

Is there anything worth trying that doesn't involve removing the
transmission? Is it worth bleeding the hydraulic system? Everything else
the Haynes manual suggests involves taking appart the clutch, which I
don't think I'm comfortable doing yet.

Thanks,
Ivan

Re: XJ clutch not disengaging completely
 

A '98 will have an external slave cylinder, which can be removed without
taking out the transmission. It would be a simple matter to replace the
master and the slave too. If you bleed the hydraulic system it may help
too. I recommend doing the cheapest thing first (bleed the system) when you
don't know what is going on.

The clutch is supposed to hit the floor when fully depressed. The other
symptoms don't sound normal though.

Cheers,

Earle

"Ivan Jager" <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:slrnfbf3us.ulp.aij+nospam@tellurium.club.cc.c mu.edu...
> Hi,
>
> I have a '98 XJ with 187k miles on it. Ever since I got it 8 months ago,
> the clutch has been hitting the floor when fully depressed. Now, it
> often doesn't shift as smoothly as it used to. (Pops out fine, but
> doesn't go into next gear as easily.) It's always had a longer clutch
> spin down time than other cars I've had, but until now I thought that
> might be normal.
>
> The part that seems strange to me, is that it isn't very consistent.
> Sometimes, if I take too long moving through neutral, it will make noise
> when I put it in reverse. Other times, I can put it in neutral, release
> the clutch, press the clutch, wait a few seconds, and put it in neutral
> without any noise. So sometimes the clutch will spin down in a few
> seconds, and other times it spins up when it should be disengaged.
>
> Any idea what could be causing this?
>
> The fluid reservoir is filled to the top, and has been since I got it.
>
> Another thing is that it is sometimes a bit shaky when starting from a
> stop, but it only seems to happen if the engine is spinning slower than
> 1krpm while engaging the clutch.
>
> Is there anything worth trying that doesn't involve removing the
> transmission? Is it worth bleeding the hydraulic system? Everything else
> the Haynes manual suggests involves taking appart the clutch, which I
> don't think I'm comfortable doing yet.
>
> Thanks,
> Ivan

Re: XJ clutch not disengaging completely
 

A '98 will have an external slave cylinder, which can be removed without
taking out the transmission. It would be a simple matter to replace the
master and the slave too. If you bleed the hydraulic system it may help
too. I recommend doing the cheapest thing first (bleed the system) when you
don't know what is going on.

The clutch is supposed to hit the floor when fully depressed. The other
symptoms don't sound normal though.

Cheers,

Earle

"Ivan Jager" <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:slrnfbf3us.ulp.aij+nospam@tellurium.club.cc.c mu.edu...
> Hi,
>
> I have a '98 XJ with 187k miles on it. Ever since I got it 8 months ago,
> the clutch has been hitting the floor when fully depressed. Now, it
> often doesn't shift as smoothly as it used to. (Pops out fine, but
> doesn't go into next gear as easily.) It's always had a longer clutch
> spin down time than other cars I've had, but until now I thought that
> might be normal.
>
> The part that seems strange to me, is that it isn't very consistent.
> Sometimes, if I take too long moving through neutral, it will make noise
> when I put it in reverse. Other times, I can put it in neutral, release
> the clutch, press the clutch, wait a few seconds, and put it in neutral
> without any noise. So sometimes the clutch will spin down in a few
> seconds, and other times it spins up when it should be disengaged.
>
> Any idea what could be causing this?
>
> The fluid reservoir is filled to the top, and has been since I got it.
>
> Another thing is that it is sometimes a bit shaky when starting from a
> stop, but it only seems to happen if the engine is spinning slower than
> 1krpm while engaging the clutch.
>
> Is there anything worth trying that doesn't involve removing the
> transmission? Is it worth bleeding the hydraulic system? Everything else
> the Haynes manual suggests involves taking appart the clutch, which I
> don't think I'm comfortable doing yet.
>
> Thanks,
> Ivan

Re: XJ clutch not disengaging completely
 

A '98 will have an external slave cylinder, which can be removed without
taking out the transmission. It would be a simple matter to replace the
master and the slave too. If you bleed the hydraulic system it may help
too. I recommend doing the cheapest thing first (bleed the system) when you
don't know what is going on.

The clutch is supposed to hit the floor when fully depressed. The other
symptoms don't sound normal though.

Cheers,

Earle

"Ivan Jager" <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:slrnfbf3us.ulp.aij+nospam@tellurium.club.cc.c mu.edu...
> Hi,
>
> I have a '98 XJ with 187k miles on it. Ever since I got it 8 months ago,
> the clutch has been hitting the floor when fully depressed. Now, it
> often doesn't shift as smoothly as it used to. (Pops out fine, but
> doesn't go into next gear as easily.) It's always had a longer clutch
> spin down time than other cars I've had, but until now I thought that
> might be normal.
>
> The part that seems strange to me, is that it isn't very consistent.
> Sometimes, if I take too long moving through neutral, it will make noise
> when I put it in reverse. Other times, I can put it in neutral, release
> the clutch, press the clutch, wait a few seconds, and put it in neutral
> without any noise. So sometimes the clutch will spin down in a few
> seconds, and other times it spins up when it should be disengaged.
>
> Any idea what could be causing this?
>
> The fluid reservoir is filled to the top, and has been since I got it.
>
> Another thing is that it is sometimes a bit shaky when starting from a
> stop, but it only seems to happen if the engine is spinning slower than
> 1krpm while engaging the clutch.
>
> Is there anything worth trying that doesn't involve removing the
> transmission? Is it worth bleeding the hydraulic system? Everything else
> the Haynes manual suggests involves taking appart the clutch, which I
> don't think I'm comfortable doing yet.
>
> Thanks,
> Ivan

Re: XJ clutch not disengaging completely
 

A '98 will have an external slave cylinder, which can be removed without
taking out the transmission. It would be a simple matter to replace the
master and the slave too. If you bleed the hydraulic system it may help
too. I recommend doing the cheapest thing first (bleed the system) when you
don't know what is going on.

The clutch is supposed to hit the floor when fully depressed. The other
symptoms don't sound normal though.

Cheers,

Earle

"Ivan Jager" <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:slrnfbf3us.ulp.aij+nospam@tellurium.club.cc.c mu.edu...
> Hi,
>
> I have a '98 XJ with 187k miles on it. Ever since I got it 8 months ago,
> the clutch has been hitting the floor when fully depressed. Now, it
> often doesn't shift as smoothly as it used to. (Pops out fine, but
> doesn't go into next gear as easily.) It's always had a longer clutch
> spin down time than other cars I've had, but until now I thought that
> might be normal.
>
> The part that seems strange to me, is that it isn't very consistent.
> Sometimes, if I take too long moving through neutral, it will make noise
> when I put it in reverse. Other times, I can put it in neutral, release
> the clutch, press the clutch, wait a few seconds, and put it in neutral
> without any noise. So sometimes the clutch will spin down in a few
> seconds, and other times it spins up when it should be disengaged.
>
> Any idea what could be causing this?
>
> The fluid reservoir is filled to the top, and has been since I got it.
>
> Another thing is that it is sometimes a bit shaky when starting from a
> stop, but it only seems to happen if the engine is spinning slower than
> 1krpm while engaging the clutch.
>
> Is there anything worth trying that doesn't involve removing the
> transmission? Is it worth bleeding the hydraulic system? Everything else
> the Haynes manual suggests involves taking appart the clutch, which I
> don't think I'm comfortable doing yet.
>
> Thanks,
> Ivan

Re: XJ clutch not disengaging completely
 

What Earl said about the external slave cylinder. Change both master and
slave, bleed the system.

Change the tranny fluid also. If the old tranny fluid is the least bit
milky or green, consider running it the new fluid for a few miles and
then changing it again.

Earle Horton wrote:
> A '98 will have an external slave cylinder, which can be removed without
> taking out the transmission. It would be a simple matter to replace the
> master and the slave too. If you bleed the hydraulic system it may help
> too. I recommend doing the cheapest thing first (bleed the system) when you
> don't know what is going on.
>
> The clutch is supposed to hit the floor when fully depressed. The other
> symptoms don't sound normal though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Ivan Jager" <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
> news:slrnfbf3us.ulp.aij+nospam@tellurium.club.cc.c mu.edu...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a '98 XJ with 187k miles on it. Ever since I got it 8 months ago,
>> the clutch has been hitting the floor when fully depressed. Now, it
>> often doesn't shift as smoothly as it used to. (Pops out fine, but
>> doesn't go into next gear as easily.) It's always had a longer clutch
>> spin down time than other cars I've had, but until now I thought that
>> might be normal.
>>
>> The part that seems strange to me, is that it isn't very consistent.
>> Sometimes, if I take too long moving through neutral, it will make noise
>> when I put it in reverse. Other times, I can put it in neutral, release
>> the clutch, press the clutch, wait a few seconds, and put it in neutral
>> without any noise. So sometimes the clutch will spin down in a few
>> seconds, and other times it spins up when it should be disengaged.
>>
>> Any idea what could be causing this?
>>
>> The fluid reservoir is filled to the top, and has been since I got it.
>>
>> Another thing is that it is sometimes a bit shaky when starting from a
>> stop, but it only seems to happen if the engine is spinning slower than
>> 1krpm while engaging the clutch.
>>
>> Is there anything worth trying that doesn't involve removing the
>> transmission? Is it worth bleeding the hydraulic system? Everything else
>> the Haynes manual suggests involves taking appart the clutch, which I
>> don't think I'm comfortable doing yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ivan
>
>

Re: XJ clutch not disengaging completely
 

What Earl said about the external slave cylinder. Change both master and
slave, bleed the system.

Change the tranny fluid also. If the old tranny fluid is the least bit
milky or green, consider running it the new fluid for a few miles and
then changing it again.

Earle Horton wrote:
> A '98 will have an external slave cylinder, which can be removed without
> taking out the transmission. It would be a simple matter to replace the
> master and the slave too. If you bleed the hydraulic system it may help
> too. I recommend doing the cheapest thing first (bleed the system) when you
> don't know what is going on.
>
> The clutch is supposed to hit the floor when fully depressed. The other
> symptoms don't sound normal though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Ivan Jager" <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
> news:slrnfbf3us.ulp.aij+nospam@tellurium.club.cc.c mu.edu...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a '98 XJ with 187k miles on it. Ever since I got it 8 months ago,
>> the clutch has been hitting the floor when fully depressed. Now, it
>> often doesn't shift as smoothly as it used to. (Pops out fine, but
>> doesn't go into next gear as easily.) It's always had a longer clutch
>> spin down time than other cars I've had, but until now I thought that
>> might be normal.
>>
>> The part that seems strange to me, is that it isn't very consistent.
>> Sometimes, if I take too long moving through neutral, it will make noise
>> when I put it in reverse. Other times, I can put it in neutral, release
>> the clutch, press the clutch, wait a few seconds, and put it in neutral
>> without any noise. So sometimes the clutch will spin down in a few
>> seconds, and other times it spins up when it should be disengaged.
>>
>> Any idea what could be causing this?
>>
>> The fluid reservoir is filled to the top, and has been since I got it.
>>
>> Another thing is that it is sometimes a bit shaky when starting from a
>> stop, but it only seems to happen if the engine is spinning slower than
>> 1krpm while engaging the clutch.
>>
>> Is there anything worth trying that doesn't involve removing the
>> transmission? Is it worth bleeding the hydraulic system? Everything else
>> the Haynes manual suggests involves taking appart the clutch, which I
>> don't think I'm comfortable doing yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ivan
>
>

Re: XJ clutch not disengaging completely
 

What Earl said about the external slave cylinder. Change both master and
slave, bleed the system.

Change the tranny fluid also. If the old tranny fluid is the least bit
milky or green, consider running it the new fluid for a few miles and
then changing it again.

Earle Horton wrote:
> A '98 will have an external slave cylinder, which can be removed without
> taking out the transmission. It would be a simple matter to replace the
> master and the slave too. If you bleed the hydraulic system it may help
> too. I recommend doing the cheapest thing first (bleed the system) when you
> don't know what is going on.
>
> The clutch is supposed to hit the floor when fully depressed. The other
> symptoms don't sound normal though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Ivan Jager" <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
> news:slrnfbf3us.ulp.aij+nospam@tellurium.club.cc.c mu.edu...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a '98 XJ with 187k miles on it. Ever since I got it 8 months ago,
>> the clutch has been hitting the floor when fully depressed. Now, it
>> often doesn't shift as smoothly as it used to. (Pops out fine, but
>> doesn't go into next gear as easily.) It's always had a longer clutch
>> spin down time than other cars I've had, but until now I thought that
>> might be normal.
>>
>> The part that seems strange to me, is that it isn't very consistent.
>> Sometimes, if I take too long moving through neutral, it will make noise
>> when I put it in reverse. Other times, I can put it in neutral, release
>> the clutch, press the clutch, wait a few seconds, and put it in neutral
>> without any noise. So sometimes the clutch will spin down in a few
>> seconds, and other times it spins up when it should be disengaged.
>>
>> Any idea what could be causing this?
>>
>> The fluid reservoir is filled to the top, and has been since I got it.
>>
>> Another thing is that it is sometimes a bit shaky when starting from a
>> stop, but it only seems to happen if the engine is spinning slower than
>> 1krpm while engaging the clutch.
>>
>> Is there anything worth trying that doesn't involve removing the
>> transmission? Is it worth bleeding the hydraulic system? Everything else
>> the Haynes manual suggests involves taking appart the clutch, which I
>> don't think I'm comfortable doing yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ivan
>
>

Re: XJ clutch not disengaging completely
 

What Earl said about the external slave cylinder. Change both master and
slave, bleed the system.

Change the tranny fluid also. If the old tranny fluid is the least bit
milky or green, consider running it the new fluid for a few miles and
then changing it again.

Earle Horton wrote:
> A '98 will have an external slave cylinder, which can be removed without
> taking out the transmission. It would be a simple matter to replace the
> master and the slave too. If you bleed the hydraulic system it may help
> too. I recommend doing the cheapest thing first (bleed the system) when you
> don't know what is going on.
>
> The clutch is supposed to hit the floor when fully depressed. The other
> symptoms don't sound normal though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Ivan Jager" <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
> news:slrnfbf3us.ulp.aij+nospam@tellurium.club.cc.c mu.edu...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a '98 XJ with 187k miles on it. Ever since I got it 8 months ago,
>> the clutch has been hitting the floor when fully depressed. Now, it
>> often doesn't shift as smoothly as it used to. (Pops out fine, but
>> doesn't go into next gear as easily.) It's always had a longer clutch
>> spin down time than other cars I've had, but until now I thought that
>> might be normal.
>>
>> The part that seems strange to me, is that it isn't very consistent.
>> Sometimes, if I take too long moving through neutral, it will make noise
>> when I put it in reverse. Other times, I can put it in neutral, release
>> the clutch, press the clutch, wait a few seconds, and put it in neutral
>> without any noise. So sometimes the clutch will spin down in a few
>> seconds, and other times it spins up when it should be disengaged.
>>
>> Any idea what could be causing this?
>>
>> The fluid reservoir is filled to the top, and has been since I got it.
>>
>> Another thing is that it is sometimes a bit shaky when starting from a
>> stop, but it only seems to happen if the engine is spinning slower than
>> 1krpm while engaging the clutch.
>>
>> Is there anything worth trying that doesn't involve removing the
>> transmission? Is it worth bleeding the hydraulic system? Everything else
>> the Haynes manual suggests involves taking appart the clutch, which I
>> don't think I'm comfortable doing yet.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ivan
>
>

Re: XJ clutch not disengaging completely
 

How do I check/change the tranny fluid?

Ivan

On 2007-08-07, RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:
> What Earl said about the external slave cylinder. Change both master and
> slave, bleed the system.
>
> Change the tranny fluid also. If the old tranny fluid is the least bit
> milky or green, consider running it the new fluid for a few miles and
> then changing it again.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> A '98 will have an external slave cylinder, which can be removed without
>> taking out the transmission. It would be a simple matter to replace the
>> master and the slave too. If you bleed the hydraulic system it may help
>> too. I recommend doing the cheapest thing first (bleed the system) when you
>> don't know what is going on.
>>
>> The clutch is supposed to hit the floor when fully depressed. The other
>> symptoms don't sound normal though.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Ivan Jager" <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
>> news:slrnfbf3us.ulp.aij+nospam@tellurium.club.cc.c mu.edu...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a '98 XJ with 187k miles on it. Ever since I got it 8 months ago,
>>> the clutch has been hitting the floor when fully depressed. Now, it
>>> often doesn't shift as smoothly as it used to. (Pops out fine, but
>>> doesn't go into next gear as easily.) It's always had a longer clutch
>>> spin down time than other cars I've had, but until now I thought that
>>> might be normal.
>>>
>>> The part that seems strange to me, is that it isn't very consistent.
>>> Sometimes, if I take too long moving through neutral, it will make noise
>>> when I put it in reverse. Other times, I can put it in neutral, release
>>> the clutch, press the clutch, wait a few seconds, and put it in neutral
>>> without any noise. So sometimes the clutch will spin down in a few
>>> seconds, and other times it spins up when it should be disengaged.
>>>
>>> Any idea what could be causing this?
>>>
>>> The fluid reservoir is filled to the top, and has been since I got it.
>>>
>>> Another thing is that it is sometimes a bit shaky when starting from a
>>> stop, but it only seems to happen if the engine is spinning slower than
>>> 1krpm while engaging the clutch.
>>>
>>> Is there anything worth trying that doesn't involve removing the
>>> transmission? Is it worth bleeding the hydraulic system? Everything else
>>> the Haynes manual suggests involves taking appart the clutch, which I
>>> don't think I'm comfortable doing yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ivan
>>
>>