Joseph P

Hey All,

Was wondering...are the metal "dividers," which close off the rear
underseat area from the rear floorboard, in an XJ mind you, important,
structurally speaking? Installed a 12 disc CD changer and new head
unit (JVC, very nice setup) in my girl's XJ. Merry Christmas Babe!!
Anywho, it fits under the rear seat in the aforementioned "divided"
area, but once installed (facing the rear, in stock location), the CD
magazine will not come out due to the upward arc of the
floorboard...unless I install it facing the front of the Cherokee
(Eureka?!). I consulted god (factory service manual) and the chunks of
18-ish gauge metal, seemingly just tack welded in, don't appear in it
anywhere in the frame section, but unibodies (haven't seen the frame
yet, where is it?) scare me anyway...one never knows...I think...or
not...hmmm...ouch...stop throwing stuff...so,

My plan is to cut out the "divider" so that the disc changer comes
through it, facing forward...it is temp installed right now in a very
visible location(behind passenger seat), which is not necessarily good
in my neighborhood.

So, in addition to wondering if the "dividers" are important, does
anyone have any other ideas on install locations. I have seen quite a
few (thanks Google!), but additional suggestions are very welcome.

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ

Clap Trap

Hmm. I have a 6 disc changer under the seat facing rearward. The cassette
comes out no problem. I'd try adjusting the mounting, shimming under it,
mount it on a hinge, etc. I would definitely NOT cut the divider. XJs are
pretty flimsy in a bind as it is (liftgate binds up and won't open, doors
rub, etc). The divider may be trivial, but I still wouldn't cut it.

If your changer has side mounted brackets, bolt the brackets to the floor
and just use one fastener on each side of the changer near the divider
leaving the rear end free. This will let it rotate up so you can get the
cassette out. Under the XJ seat, you could probably get away without any
fasteners at all. Especially with a 12 disc. I'm surprised that even fit,
my 6 disc is tight and contacts the seat ever so slightly. If you were to
go without any fasteners though, be sure to put in a ground wire since you
won't have a natural ground through the case. You might also remove the
carpet under there to get another hair or two.

PS, if you leave it under the seat with no cutting so that it is completely
out of site, be sure to tell your girlfriend to only change the cassette in
the garage or in some other out of site location. If it takes her 10
minutes to take all the junk off the back seat to get to the unit and
should someone see her carrying a changer cassette, it might as well be
right out in the open.

I always used to hate it when my girlfriend would wait until we parked
somewhere to decide to put her purse behind the seat. And she'd even ask if
it were ok - while the windows were down and someone could hear her ask!
Why not just announce to the world exactly where the goods are! (ok, off
rant).

"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:RYNKb.238341$I53.11310045@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> Hey All,
>
> Was wondering...are the metal "dividers," which close off the rear
> underseat area from the rear floorboard, in an XJ mind you, important,
> structurally speaking? Installed a 12 disc CD changer and new head
> unit (JVC, very nice setup) in my girl's XJ. Merry Christmas Babe!!
> Anywho, it fits under the rear seat in the aforementioned "divided"
> area, but once installed (facing the rear, in stock location), the CD
> magazine will not come out due to the upward arc of the
> floorboard...unless I install it facing the front of the Cherokee
> (Eureka?!). I consulted god (factory service manual) and the chunks of
> 18-ish gauge metal, seemingly just tack welded in, don't appear in it
> anywhere in the frame section, but unibodies (haven't seen the frame
> yet, where is it?) scare me anyway...one never knows...I think...or
> not...hmmm...ouch...stop throwing stuff...so,
>
> My plan is to cut out the "divider" so that the disc changer comes
> through it, facing forward...it is temp installed right now in a very
> visible location(behind passenger seat), which is not necessarily good
> in my neighborhood.
>
> So, in addition to wondering if the "dividers" are important, does
> anyone have any other ideas on install locations. I have seen quite a
> few (thanks Google!), but additional suggestions are very welcome.
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>

Clap Trap

Hmm. I have a 6 disc changer under the seat facing rearward. The cassette
comes out no problem. I'd try adjusting the mounting, shimming under it,
mount it on a hinge, etc. I would definitely NOT cut the divider. XJs are
pretty flimsy in a bind as it is (liftgate binds up and won't open, doors
rub, etc). The divider may be trivial, but I still wouldn't cut it.

If your changer has side mounted brackets, bolt the brackets to the floor
and just use one fastener on each side of the changer near the divider
leaving the rear end free. This will let it rotate up so you can get the
cassette out. Under the XJ seat, you could probably get away without any
fasteners at all. Especially with a 12 disc. I'm surprised that even fit,
my 6 disc is tight and contacts the seat ever so slightly. If you were to
go without any fasteners though, be sure to put in a ground wire since you
won't have a natural ground through the case. You might also remove the
carpet under there to get another hair or two.

PS, if you leave it under the seat with no cutting so that it is completely
out of site, be sure to tell your girlfriend to only change the cassette in
the garage or in some other out of site location. If it takes her 10
minutes to take all the junk off the back seat to get to the unit and
should someone see her carrying a changer cassette, it might as well be
right out in the open.

I always used to hate it when my girlfriend would wait until we parked
somewhere to decide to put her purse behind the seat. And she'd even ask if
it were ok - while the windows were down and someone could hear her ask!
Why not just announce to the world exactly where the goods are! (ok, off
rant).

"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:RYNKb.238341$I53.11310045@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> Hey All,
>
> Was wondering...are the metal "dividers," which close off the rear
> underseat area from the rear floorboard, in an XJ mind you, important,
> structurally speaking? Installed a 12 disc CD changer and new head
> unit (JVC, very nice setup) in my girl's XJ. Merry Christmas Babe!!
> Anywho, it fits under the rear seat in the aforementioned "divided"
> area, but once installed (facing the rear, in stock location), the CD
> magazine will not come out due to the upward arc of the
> floorboard...unless I install it facing the front of the Cherokee
> (Eureka?!). I consulted god (factory service manual) and the chunks of
> 18-ish gauge metal, seemingly just tack welded in, don't appear in it
> anywhere in the frame section, but unibodies (haven't seen the frame
> yet, where is it?) scare me anyway...one never knows...I think...or
> not...hmmm...ouch...stop throwing stuff...so,
>
> My plan is to cut out the "divider" so that the disc changer comes
> through it, facing forward...it is temp installed right now in a very
> visible location(behind passenger seat), which is not necessarily good
> in my neighborhood.
>
> So, in addition to wondering if the "dividers" are important, does
> anyone have any other ideas on install locations. I have seen quite a
> few (thanks Google!), but additional suggestions are very welcome.
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>

Clap Trap

Hmm. I have a 6 disc changer under the seat facing rearward. The cassette
comes out no problem. I'd try adjusting the mounting, shimming under it,
mount it on a hinge, etc. I would definitely NOT cut the divider. XJs are
pretty flimsy in a bind as it is (liftgate binds up and won't open, doors
rub, etc). The divider may be trivial, but I still wouldn't cut it.

If your changer has side mounted brackets, bolt the brackets to the floor
and just use one fastener on each side of the changer near the divider
leaving the rear end free. This will let it rotate up so you can get the
cassette out. Under the XJ seat, you could probably get away without any
fasteners at all. Especially with a 12 disc. I'm surprised that even fit,
my 6 disc is tight and contacts the seat ever so slightly. If you were to
go without any fasteners though, be sure to put in a ground wire since you
won't have a natural ground through the case. You might also remove the
carpet under there to get another hair or two.

PS, if you leave it under the seat with no cutting so that it is completely
out of site, be sure to tell your girlfriend to only change the cassette in
the garage or in some other out of site location. If it takes her 10
minutes to take all the junk off the back seat to get to the unit and
should someone see her carrying a changer cassette, it might as well be
right out in the open.

I always used to hate it when my girlfriend would wait until we parked
somewhere to decide to put her purse behind the seat. And she'd even ask if
it were ok - while the windows were down and someone could hear her ask!
Why not just announce to the world exactly where the goods are! (ok, off
rant).

"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:RYNKb.238341$I53.11310045@twister.southeast.r r.com...
> Hey All,
>
> Was wondering...are the metal "dividers," which close off the rear
> underseat area from the rear floorboard, in an XJ mind you, important,
> structurally speaking? Installed a 12 disc CD changer and new head
> unit (JVC, very nice setup) in my girl's XJ. Merry Christmas Babe!!
> Anywho, it fits under the rear seat in the aforementioned "divided"
> area, but once installed (facing the rear, in stock location), the CD
> magazine will not come out due to the upward arc of the
> floorboard...unless I install it facing the front of the Cherokee
> (Eureka?!). I consulted god (factory service manual) and the chunks of
> 18-ish gauge metal, seemingly just tack welded in, don't appear in it
> anywhere in the frame section, but unibodies (haven't seen the frame
> yet, where is it?) scare me anyway...one never knows...I think...or
> not...hmmm...ouch...stop throwing stuff...so,
>
> My plan is to cut out the "divider" so that the disc changer comes
> through it, facing forward...it is temp installed right now in a very
> visible location(behind passenger seat), which is not necessarily good
> in my neighborhood.
>
> So, in addition to wondering if the "dividers" are important, does
> anyone have any other ideas on install locations. I have seen quite a
> few (thanks Google!), but additional suggestions are very welcome.
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>

Joseph P

Hey,

Thanks for the input, but here is the problem...the magazine in it
pulls straight out from the front of the unit, while most (I am not
saying you have this....) CD Changers that are designed to go there,
the magazine pops up like the hood of the darn car. Being it is a 12
disc, there is no room to play with, as far as shimming and whatnot,
b/c it is about 1 inch taller than a "standard" 6 disc, as far as I
can tell from the five 6 disc changers I got to look at. It fits
perfectly, it is just where the floor curves up to the level of the
cargo area that there are problems. And all this is with no carpet
installed. As for the security, she is well versed. The place I live
is about 3 blocks from the "wrong side of the tracks." I had my last
nice head unit stolen out of my Wrangler, her whole Jeep was stolen
and found deep in some woods by a guy hunting, with the wheels gone,
the jumper cables gone, and my 150 CDs gone, and most recently my $300
grill was stolen out of my backyard. It is time to move, but that is
another issue.

As far as the binding up goes, I know, but she won't be doing any
ORV anything, it's 2WD. And as far as it holds up in a rear end
collision, I was impressed. She had a kid (16-17?) in his daddy's
yellow Mustang hit her at 55 MPH, she was at a dead stop. Needless to
say, she had to actually drive off the stang while a wrecker held the
stang in place, and needed a new back door and bumper. And yes, the
back door still opened. All I had to do to drive it from the scene
was to kick the exhaust pipe off the drive shaft. Pretty neat, huh?

So, any more ideas or thoughts on the previously mentioned "dividers?"
TIA.


--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"Clap Trap" <saynotospam@the.net> wrote in message
news:vvu7f9au9li0ec@corp.supernews.com...
| Hmm. I have a 6 disc changer under the seat facing rearward. The
cassette
| comes out no problem. I'd try adjusting the mounting, shimming
under it,
| mount it on a hinge, etc. I would definitely NOT cut the divider.
XJs are
| pretty flimsy in a bind as it is (liftgate binds up and won't open,
doors
| rub, etc). The divider may be trivial, but I still wouldn't cut it.
|
| If your changer has side mounted brackets, bolt the brackets to the
floor
| and just use one fastener on each side of the changer near the
divider
| leaving the rear end free. This will let it rotate up so you can
get the
| cassette out. Under the XJ seat, you could probably get away
without any
| fasteners at all. Especially with a 12 disc. I'm surprised that
even fit,
| my 6 disc is tight and contacts the seat ever so slightly. If you
were to
| go without any fasteners though, be sure to put in a ground wire
since you
| won't have a natural ground through the case. You might also remove
the
| carpet under there to get another hair or two.
|
| PS, if you leave it under the seat with no cutting so that it is
completely
| out of site, be sure to tell your girlfriend to only change the
cassette in
| the garage or in some other out of site location. If it takes her
10
| minutes to take all the junk off the back seat to get to the unit
and
| should someone see her carrying a changer cassette, it might as well
be
| right out in the open.
|
| I always used to hate it when my girlfriend would wait until we
parked
| somewhere to decide to put her purse behind the seat. And she'd
even ask if
| it were ok - while the windows were down and someone could hear her
ask!
| Why not just announce to the world exactly where the goods are!
(ok, off
| rant).
|
| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
| news:RYNKb.238341$I53.11310045@twister.southeast.r r.com...
| > Hey All,
| >
| > Was wondering...are the metal "dividers," which close off the
rear
| > underseat area from the rear floorboard, in an XJ mind you,
important,
| > structurally speaking? Installed a 12 disc CD changer and new head
| > unit (JVC, very nice setup) in my girl's XJ. Merry Christmas
Babe!!
| > Anywho, it fits under the rear seat in the aforementioned
"divided"
| > area, but once installed (facing the rear, in stock location),
the CD
| > magazine will not come out due to the upward arc of the
| > floorboard...unless I install it facing the front of the Cherokee
| > (Eureka?!). I consulted god (factory service manual) and the
chunks of
| > 18-ish gauge metal, seemingly just tack welded in, don't appear in
it
| > anywhere in the frame section, but unibodies (haven't seen the
frame
| > yet, where is it?) scare me anyway...one never knows...I
think...or
| > not...hmmm...ouch...stop throwing stuff...so,
| >
| > My plan is to cut out the "divider" so that the disc changer
comes
| > through it, facing forward...it is temp installed right now in a
very
| > visible location(behind passenger seat), which is not necessarily
good
| > in my neighborhood.
| >
| > So, in addition to wondering if the "dividers" are important,
does
| > anyone have any other ideas on install locations. I have seen
quite a
| > few (thanks Google!), but additional suggestions are very welcome.
| >
| > --
| > --
| > Joe Pribe
| > NC
| > jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
| > jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
| > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
| >
|
|

Joseph P

Hey,

Thanks for the input, but here is the problem...the magazine in it
pulls straight out from the front of the unit, while most (I am not
saying you have this....) CD Changers that are designed to go there,
the magazine pops up like the hood of the darn car. Being it is a 12
disc, there is no room to play with, as far as shimming and whatnot,
b/c it is about 1 inch taller than a "standard" 6 disc, as far as I
can tell from the five 6 disc changers I got to look at. It fits
perfectly, it is just where the floor curves up to the level of the
cargo area that there are problems. And all this is with no carpet
installed. As for the security, she is well versed. The place I live
is about 3 blocks from the "wrong side of the tracks." I had my last
nice head unit stolen out of my Wrangler, her whole Jeep was stolen
and found deep in some woods by a guy hunting, with the wheels gone,
the jumper cables gone, and my 150 CDs gone, and most recently my $300
grill was stolen out of my backyard. It is time to move, but that is
another issue.

As far as the binding up goes, I know, but she won't be doing any
ORV anything, it's 2WD. And as far as it holds up in a rear end
collision, I was impressed. She had a kid (16-17?) in his daddy's
yellow Mustang hit her at 55 MPH, she was at a dead stop. Needless to
say, she had to actually drive off the stang while a wrecker held the
stang in place, and needed a new back door and bumper. And yes, the
back door still opened. All I had to do to drive it from the scene
was to kick the exhaust pipe off the drive shaft. Pretty neat, huh?

So, any more ideas or thoughts on the previously mentioned "dividers?"
TIA.


--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"Clap Trap" <saynotospam@the.net> wrote in message
news:vvu7f9au9li0ec@corp.supernews.com...
| Hmm. I have a 6 disc changer under the seat facing rearward. The
cassette
| comes out no problem. I'd try adjusting the mounting, shimming
under it,
| mount it on a hinge, etc. I would definitely NOT cut the divider.
XJs are
| pretty flimsy in a bind as it is (liftgate binds up and won't open,
doors
| rub, etc). The divider may be trivial, but I still wouldn't cut it.
|
| If your changer has side mounted brackets, bolt the brackets to the
floor
| and just use one fastener on each side of the changer near the
divider
| leaving the rear end free. This will let it rotate up so you can
get the
| cassette out. Under the XJ seat, you could probably get away
without any
| fasteners at all. Especially with a 12 disc. I'm surprised that
even fit,
| my 6 disc is tight and contacts the seat ever so slightly. If you
were to
| go without any fasteners though, be sure to put in a ground wire
since you
| won't have a natural ground through the case. You might also remove
the
| carpet under there to get another hair or two.
|
| PS, if you leave it under the seat with no cutting so that it is
completely
| out of site, be sure to tell your girlfriend to only change the
cassette in
| the garage or in some other out of site location. If it takes her
10
| minutes to take all the junk off the back seat to get to the unit
and
| should someone see her carrying a changer cassette, it might as well
be
| right out in the open.
|
| I always used to hate it when my girlfriend would wait until we
parked
| somewhere to decide to put her purse behind the seat. And she'd
even ask if
| it were ok - while the windows were down and someone could hear her
ask!
| Why not just announce to the world exactly where the goods are!
(ok, off
| rant).
|
| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
| news:RYNKb.238341$I53.11310045@twister.southeast.r r.com...
| > Hey All,
| >
| > Was wondering...are the metal "dividers," which close off the
rear
| > underseat area from the rear floorboard, in an XJ mind you,
important,
| > structurally speaking? Installed a 12 disc CD changer and new head
| > unit (JVC, very nice setup) in my girl's XJ. Merry Christmas
Babe!!
| > Anywho, it fits under the rear seat in the aforementioned
"divided"
| > area, but once installed (facing the rear, in stock location),
the CD
| > magazine will not come out due to the upward arc of the
| > floorboard...unless I install it facing the front of the Cherokee
| > (Eureka?!). I consulted god (factory service manual) and the
chunks of
| > 18-ish gauge metal, seemingly just tack welded in, don't appear in
it
| > anywhere in the frame section, but unibodies (haven't seen the
frame
| > yet, where is it?) scare me anyway...one never knows...I
think...or
| > not...hmmm...ouch...stop throwing stuff...so,
| >
| > My plan is to cut out the "divider" so that the disc changer
comes
| > through it, facing forward...it is temp installed right now in a
very
| > visible location(behind passenger seat), which is not necessarily
good
| > in my neighborhood.
| >
| > So, in addition to wondering if the "dividers" are important,
does
| > anyone have any other ideas on install locations. I have seen
quite a
| > few (thanks Google!), but additional suggestions are very welcome.
| >
| > --
| > --
| > Joe Pribe
| > NC
| > jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
| > jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
| > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
| >
|
|

Joseph P

Hey,

Thanks for the input, but here is the problem...the magazine in it
pulls straight out from the front of the unit, while most (I am not
saying you have this....) CD Changers that are designed to go there,
the magazine pops up like the hood of the darn car. Being it is a 12
disc, there is no room to play with, as far as shimming and whatnot,
b/c it is about 1 inch taller than a "standard" 6 disc, as far as I
can tell from the five 6 disc changers I got to look at. It fits
perfectly, it is just where the floor curves up to the level of the
cargo area that there are problems. And all this is with no carpet
installed. As for the security, she is well versed. The place I live
is about 3 blocks from the "wrong side of the tracks." I had my last
nice head unit stolen out of my Wrangler, her whole Jeep was stolen
and found deep in some woods by a guy hunting, with the wheels gone,
the jumper cables gone, and my 150 CDs gone, and most recently my $300
grill was stolen out of my backyard. It is time to move, but that is
another issue.

As far as the binding up goes, I know, but she won't be doing any
ORV anything, it's 2WD. And as far as it holds up in a rear end
collision, I was impressed. She had a kid (16-17?) in his daddy's
yellow Mustang hit her at 55 MPH, she was at a dead stop. Needless to
say, she had to actually drive off the stang while a wrecker held the
stang in place, and needed a new back door and bumper. And yes, the
back door still opened. All I had to do to drive it from the scene
was to kick the exhaust pipe off the drive shaft. Pretty neat, huh?

So, any more ideas or thoughts on the previously mentioned "dividers?"
TIA.


--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"Clap Trap" <saynotospam@the.net> wrote in message
news:vvu7f9au9li0ec@corp.supernews.com...
| Hmm. I have a 6 disc changer under the seat facing rearward. The
cassette
| comes out no problem. I'd try adjusting the mounting, shimming
under it,
| mount it on a hinge, etc. I would definitely NOT cut the divider.
XJs are
| pretty flimsy in a bind as it is (liftgate binds up and won't open,
doors
| rub, etc). The divider may be trivial, but I still wouldn't cut it.
|
| If your changer has side mounted brackets, bolt the brackets to the
floor
| and just use one fastener on each side of the changer near the
divider
| leaving the rear end free. This will let it rotate up so you can
get the
| cassette out. Under the XJ seat, you could probably get away
without any
| fasteners at all. Especially with a 12 disc. I'm surprised that
even fit,
| my 6 disc is tight and contacts the seat ever so slightly. If you
were to
| go without any fasteners though, be sure to put in a ground wire
since you
| won't have a natural ground through the case. You might also remove
the
| carpet under there to get another hair or two.
|
| PS, if you leave it under the seat with no cutting so that it is
completely
| out of site, be sure to tell your girlfriend to only change the
cassette in
| the garage or in some other out of site location. If it takes her
10
| minutes to take all the junk off the back seat to get to the unit
and
| should someone see her carrying a changer cassette, it might as well
be
| right out in the open.
|
| I always used to hate it when my girlfriend would wait until we
parked
| somewhere to decide to put her purse behind the seat. And she'd
even ask if
| it were ok - while the windows were down and someone could hear her
ask!
| Why not just announce to the world exactly where the goods are!
(ok, off
| rant).
|
| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
| news:RYNKb.238341$I53.11310045@twister.southeast.r r.com...
| > Hey All,
| >
| > Was wondering...are the metal "dividers," which close off the
rear
| > underseat area from the rear floorboard, in an XJ mind you,
important,
| > structurally speaking? Installed a 12 disc CD changer and new head
| > unit (JVC, very nice setup) in my girl's XJ. Merry Christmas
Babe!!
| > Anywho, it fits under the rear seat in the aforementioned
"divided"
| > area, but once installed (facing the rear, in stock location),
the CD
| > magazine will not come out due to the upward arc of the
| > floorboard...unless I install it facing the front of the Cherokee
| > (Eureka?!). I consulted god (factory service manual) and the
chunks of
| > 18-ish gauge metal, seemingly just tack welded in, don't appear in
it
| > anywhere in the frame section, but unibodies (haven't seen the
frame
| > yet, where is it?) scare me anyway...one never knows...I
think...or
| > not...hmmm...ouch...stop throwing stuff...so,
| >
| > My plan is to cut out the "divider" so that the disc changer
comes
| > through it, facing forward...it is temp installed right now in a
very
| > visible location(behind passenger seat), which is not necessarily
good
| > in my neighborhood.
| >
| > So, in addition to wondering if the "dividers" are important,
does
| > anyone have any other ideas on install locations. I have seen
quite a
| > few (thanks Google!), but additional suggestions are very welcome.
| >
| > --
| > --
| > Joe Pribe
| > NC
| > jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
| > jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
| > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
| >
|
|

Joseph P

BTW, it is a JVC CH-PK220.
http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?model...L027037&page=3

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:hFTLb.252592$I53.11933205@twister.southeast.r r.com...
| Hey,
|
| Thanks for the input, but here is the problem...the magazine in
it
| pulls straight out from the front of the unit, while most (I am not
| saying you have this....) CD Changers that are designed to go there,
| the magazine pops up like the hood of the darn car. Being it is a
12
| disc, there is no room to play with, as far as shimming and whatnot,
| b/c it is about 1 inch taller than a "standard" 6 disc, as far as I
| can tell from the five 6 disc changers I got to look at. It fits
| perfectly, it is just where the floor curves up to the level of the
| cargo area that there are problems. And all this is with no carpet
| installed. As for the security, she is well versed. The place I
live
| is about 3 blocks from the "wrong side of the tracks." I had my
last
| nice head unit stolen out of my Wrangler, her whole Jeep was stolen
| and found deep in some woods by a guy hunting, with the wheels gone,
| the jumper cables gone, and my 150 CDs gone, and most recently my
$300
| grill was stolen out of my backyard. It is time to move, but that is
| another issue.
|
| As far as the binding up goes, I know, but she won't be doing any
| ORV anything, it's 2WD. And as far as it holds up in a rear end
| collision, I was impressed. She had a kid (16-17?) in his daddy's
| yellow Mustang hit her at 55 MPH, she was at a dead stop. Needless
to
| say, she had to actually drive off the stang while a wrecker held
the
| stang in place, and needed a new back door and bumper. And yes, the
| back door still opened. All I had to do to drive it from the scene
| was to kick the exhaust pipe off the drive shaft. Pretty neat, huh?
|
| So, any more ideas or thoughts on the previously mentioned
"dividers?"
| TIA.
|
|
| --
| --
| Joe Pribe
| NC
| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
| jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
|
|
|
| "Clap Trap" <saynotospam@the.net> wrote in message
| news:vvu7f9au9li0ec@corp.supernews.com...
| | Hmm. I have a 6 disc changer under the seat facing rearward. The
| cassette
| | comes out no problem. I'd try adjusting the mounting, shimming
| under it,
| | mount it on a hinge, etc. I would definitely NOT cut the divider.
| XJs are
| | pretty flimsy in a bind as it is (liftgate binds up and won't
open,
| doors
| | rub, etc). The divider may be trivial, but I still wouldn't cut
it.
| |
| | If your changer has side mounted brackets, bolt the brackets to
the
| floor
| | and just use one fastener on each side of the changer near the
| divider
| | leaving the rear end free. This will let it rotate up so you can
| get the
| | cassette out. Under the XJ seat, you could probably get away
| without any
| | fasteners at all. Especially with a 12 disc. I'm surprised that
| even fit,
| | my 6 disc is tight and contacts the seat ever so slightly. If you
| were to
| | go without any fasteners though, be sure to put in a ground wire
| since you
| | won't have a natural ground through the case. You might also
remove
| the
| | carpet under there to get another hair or two.
| |
| | PS, if you leave it under the seat with no cutting so that it is
| completely
| | out of site, be sure to tell your girlfriend to only change the
| cassette in
| | the garage or in some other out of site location. If it takes her
| 10
| | minutes to take all the junk off the back seat to get to the unit
| and
| | should someone see her carrying a changer cassette, it might as
well
| be
| | right out in the open.
| |
| | I always used to hate it when my girlfriend would wait until we
| parked
| | somewhere to decide to put her purse behind the seat. And she'd
| even ask if
| | it were ok - while the windows were down and someone could hear
her
| ask!
| | Why not just announce to the world exactly where the goods are!
| (ok, off
| | rant).
| |
| | "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
| | news:RYNKb.238341$I53.11310045@twister.southeast.r r.com...
| | > Hey All,
| | >
| | > Was wondering...are the metal "dividers," which close off the
| rear
| | > underseat area from the rear floorboard, in an XJ mind you,
| important,
| | > structurally speaking? Installed a 12 disc CD changer and new
head
| | > unit (JVC, very nice setup) in my girl's XJ. Merry Christmas
| Babe!!
| | > Anywho, it fits under the rear seat in the aforementioned
| "divided"
| | > area, but once installed (facing the rear, in stock location),
| the CD
| | > magazine will not come out due to the upward arc of the
| | > floorboard...unless I install it facing the front of the
Cherokee
| | > (Eureka?!). I consulted god (factory service manual) and the
| chunks of
| | > 18-ish gauge metal, seemingly just tack welded in, don't appear
in
| it
| | > anywhere in the frame section, but unibodies (haven't seen the
| frame
| | > yet, where is it?) scare me anyway...one never knows...I
| think...or
| | > not...hmmm...ouch...stop throwing stuff...so,
| | >
| | > My plan is to cut out the "divider" so that the disc changer
| comes
| | > through it, facing forward...it is temp installed right now in a
| very
| | > visible location(behind passenger seat), which is not
necessarily
| good
| | > in my neighborhood.
| | >
| | > So, in addition to wondering if the "dividers" are
important,
| does
| | > anyone have any other ideas on install locations. I have seen
| quite a
| | > few (thanks Google!), but additional suggestions are very
welcome.
| | >
| | > --
| | > --
| | > Joe Pribe
| | > NC
| | > jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
| | > jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
| | > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
| | >
| |
| |
|

Joseph P

BTW, it is a JVC CH-PK220.
http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?model...L027037&page=3

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:hFTLb.252592$I53.11933205@twister.southeast.r r.com...
| Hey,
|
| Thanks for the input, but here is the problem...the magazine in
it
| pulls straight out from the front of the unit, while most (I am not
| saying you have this....) CD Changers that are designed to go there,
| the magazine pops up like the hood of the darn car. Being it is a
12
| disc, there is no room to play with, as far as shimming and whatnot,
| b/c it is about 1 inch taller than a "standard" 6 disc, as far as I
| can tell from the five 6 disc changers I got to look at. It fits
| perfectly, it is just where the floor curves up to the level of the
| cargo area that there are problems. And all this is with no carpet
| installed. As for the security, she is well versed. The place I
live
| is about 3 blocks from the "wrong side of the tracks." I had my
last
| nice head unit stolen out of my Wrangler, her whole Jeep was stolen
| and found deep in some woods by a guy hunting, with the wheels gone,
| the jumper cables gone, and my 150 CDs gone, and most recently my
$300
| grill was stolen out of my backyard. It is time to move, but that is
| another issue.
|
| As far as the binding up goes, I know, but she won't be doing any
| ORV anything, it's 2WD. And as far as it holds up in a rear end
| collision, I was impressed. She had a kid (16-17?) in his daddy's
| yellow Mustang hit her at 55 MPH, she was at a dead stop. Needless
to
| say, she had to actually drive off the stang while a wrecker held
the
| stang in place, and needed a new back door and bumper. And yes, the
| back door still opened. All I had to do to drive it from the scene
| was to kick the exhaust pipe off the drive shaft. Pretty neat, huh?
|
| So, any more ideas or thoughts on the previously mentioned
"dividers?"
| TIA.
|
|
| --
| --
| Joe Pribe
| NC
| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
| jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
|
|
|
| "Clap Trap" <saynotospam@the.net> wrote in message
| news:vvu7f9au9li0ec@corp.supernews.com...
| | Hmm. I have a 6 disc changer under the seat facing rearward. The
| cassette
| | comes out no problem. I'd try adjusting the mounting, shimming
| under it,
| | mount it on a hinge, etc. I would definitely NOT cut the divider.
| XJs are
| | pretty flimsy in a bind as it is (liftgate binds up and won't
open,
| doors
| | rub, etc). The divider may be trivial, but I still wouldn't cut
it.
| |
| | If your changer has side mounted brackets, bolt the brackets to
the
| floor
| | and just use one fastener on each side of the changer near the
| divider
| | leaving the rear end free. This will let it rotate up so you can
| get the
| | cassette out. Under the XJ seat, you could probably get away
| without any
| | fasteners at all. Especially with a 12 disc. I'm surprised that
| even fit,
| | my 6 disc is tight and contacts the seat ever so slightly. If you
| were to
| | go without any fasteners though, be sure to put in a ground wire
| since you
| | won't have a natural ground through the case. You might also
remove
| the
| | carpet under there to get another hair or two.
| |
| | PS, if you leave it under the seat with no cutting so that it is
| completely
| | out of site, be sure to tell your girlfriend to only change the
| cassette in
| | the garage or in some other out of site location. If it takes her
| 10
| | minutes to take all the junk off the back seat to get to the unit
| and
| | should someone see her carrying a changer cassette, it might as
well
| be
| | right out in the open.
| |
| | I always used to hate it when my girlfriend would wait until we
| parked
| | somewhere to decide to put her purse behind the seat. And she'd
| even ask if
| | it were ok - while the windows were down and someone could hear
her
| ask!
| | Why not just announce to the world exactly where the goods are!
| (ok, off
| | rant).
| |
| | "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
| | news:RYNKb.238341$I53.11310045@twister.southeast.r r.com...
| | > Hey All,
| | >
| | > Was wondering...are the metal "dividers," which close off the
| rear
| | > underseat area from the rear floorboard, in an XJ mind you,
| important,
| | > structurally speaking? Installed a 12 disc CD changer and new
head
| | > unit (JVC, very nice setup) in my girl's XJ. Merry Christmas
| Babe!!
| | > Anywho, it fits under the rear seat in the aforementioned
| "divided"
| | > area, but once installed (facing the rear, in stock location),
| the CD
| | > magazine will not come out due to the upward arc of the
| | > floorboard...unless I install it facing the front of the
Cherokee
| | > (Eureka?!). I consulted god (factory service manual) and the
| chunks of
| | > 18-ish gauge metal, seemingly just tack welded in, don't appear
in
| it
| | > anywhere in the frame section, but unibodies (haven't seen the
| frame
| | > yet, where is it?) scare me anyway...one never knows...I
| think...or
| | > not...hmmm...ouch...stop throwing stuff...so,
| | >
| | > My plan is to cut out the "divider" so that the disc changer
| comes
| | > through it, facing forward...it is temp installed right now in a
| very
| | > visible location(behind passenger seat), which is not
necessarily
| good
| | > in my neighborhood.
| | >
| | > So, in addition to wondering if the "dividers" are
important,
| does
| | > anyone have any other ideas on install locations. I have seen
| quite a
| | > few (thanks Google!), but additional suggestions are very
welcome.
| | >
| | > --
| | > --
| | > Joe Pribe
| | > NC
| | > jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
| | > jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
| | > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
| | >
| |
| |
|

Joseph P

BTW, it is a JVC CH-PK220.
http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?model...L027037&page=3

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:hFTLb.252592$I53.11933205@twister.southeast.r r.com...
| Hey,
|
| Thanks for the input, but here is the problem...the magazine in
it
| pulls straight out from the front of the unit, while most (I am not
| saying you have this....) CD Changers that are designed to go there,
| the magazine pops up like the hood of the darn car. Being it is a
12
| disc, there is no room to play with, as far as shimming and whatnot,
| b/c it is about 1 inch taller than a "standard" 6 disc, as far as I
| can tell from the five 6 disc changers I got to look at. It fits
| perfectly, it is just where the floor curves up to the level of the
| cargo area that there are problems. And all this is with no carpet
| installed. As for the security, she is well versed. The place I
live
| is about 3 blocks from the "wrong side of the tracks." I had my
last
| nice head unit stolen out of my Wrangler, her whole Jeep was stolen
| and found deep in some woods by a guy hunting, with the wheels gone,
| the jumper cables gone, and my 150 CDs gone, and most recently my
$300
| grill was stolen out of my backyard. It is time to move, but that is
| another issue.
|
| As far as the binding up goes, I know, but she won't be doing any
| ORV anything, it's 2WD. And as far as it holds up in a rear end
| collision, I was impressed. She had a kid (16-17?) in his daddy's
| yellow Mustang hit her at 55 MPH, she was at a dead stop. Needless
to
| say, she had to actually drive off the stang while a wrecker held
the
| stang in place, and needed a new back door and bumper. And yes, the
| back door still opened. All I had to do to drive it from the scene
| was to kick the exhaust pipe off the drive shaft. Pretty neat, huh?
|
| So, any more ideas or thoughts on the previously mentioned
"dividers?"
| TIA.
|
|
| --
| --
| Joe Pribe
| NC
| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
| jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
|
|
|
| "Clap Trap" <saynotospam@the.net> wrote in message
| news:vvu7f9au9li0ec@corp.supernews.com...
| | Hmm. I have a 6 disc changer under the seat facing rearward. The
| cassette
| | comes out no problem. I'd try adjusting the mounting, shimming
| under it,
| | mount it on a hinge, etc. I would definitely NOT cut the divider.
| XJs are
| | pretty flimsy in a bind as it is (liftgate binds up and won't
open,
| doors
| | rub, etc). The divider may be trivial, but I still wouldn't cut
it.
| |
| | If your changer has side mounted brackets, bolt the brackets to
the
| floor
| | and just use one fastener on each side of the changer near the
| divider
| | leaving the rear end free. This will let it rotate up so you can
| get the
| | cassette out. Under the XJ seat, you could probably get away
| without any
| | fasteners at all. Especially with a 12 disc. I'm surprised that
| even fit,
| | my 6 disc is tight and contacts the seat ever so slightly. If you
| were to
| | go without any fasteners though, be sure to put in a ground wire
| since you
| | won't have a natural ground through the case. You might also
remove
| the
| | carpet under there to get another hair or two.
| |
| | PS, if you leave it under the seat with no cutting so that it is
| completely
| | out of site, be sure to tell your girlfriend to only change the
| cassette in
| | the garage or in some other out of site location. If it takes her
| 10
| | minutes to take all the junk off the back seat to get to the unit
| and
| | should someone see her carrying a changer cassette, it might as
well
| be
| | right out in the open.
| |
| | I always used to hate it when my girlfriend would wait until we
| parked
| | somewhere to decide to put her purse behind the seat. And she'd
| even ask if
| | it were ok - while the windows were down and someone could hear
her
| ask!
| | Why not just announce to the world exactly where the goods are!
| (ok, off
| | rant).
| |
| | "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
| | news:RYNKb.238341$I53.11310045@twister.southeast.r r.com...
| | > Hey All,
| | >
| | > Was wondering...are the metal "dividers," which close off the
| rear
| | > underseat area from the rear floorboard, in an XJ mind you,
| important,
| | > structurally speaking? Installed a 12 disc CD changer and new
head
| | > unit (JVC, very nice setup) in my girl's XJ. Merry Christmas
| Babe!!
| | > Anywho, it fits under the rear seat in the aforementioned
| "divided"
| | > area, but once installed (facing the rear, in stock location),
| the CD
| | > magazine will not come out due to the upward arc of the
| | > floorboard...unless I install it facing the front of the
Cherokee
| | > (Eureka?!). I consulted god (factory service manual) and the
| chunks of
| | > 18-ish gauge metal, seemingly just tack welded in, don't appear
in
| it
| | > anywhere in the frame section, but unibodies (haven't seen the
| frame
| | > yet, where is it?) scare me anyway...one never knows...I
| think...or
| | > not...hmmm...ouch...stop throwing stuff...so,
| | >
| | > My plan is to cut out the "divider" so that the disc changer
| comes
| | > through it, facing forward...it is temp installed right now in a
| very
| | > visible location(behind passenger seat), which is not
necessarily
| good
| | > in my neighborhood.
| | >
| | > So, in addition to wondering if the "dividers" are
important,
| does
| | > anyone have any other ideas on install locations. I have seen
| quite a
| | > few (thanks Google!), but additional suggestions are very
welcome.
| | >
| | > --
| | > --
| | > Joe Pribe
| | > NC
| | > jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
| | > jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
| | > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
| | >
| |
| |
|