XJ Brakes
04-01-2005, 09:01 AM
#31
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: XJ brake UPDATE
Just do one side at a time because there are right and left parts in
there.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Just to be clear.. I wasnt trying to suck the fluid out of the lines with
> the vacuum, just out of the resevior. I cleaned out the rear brakes and
> drums with a hose and brake cleaner, it was pretty dirty in there. I noticed
> that my shoes are a little thin, despite being reasonably new. There is also
> a ridge formed in the passenger side front shoe. I'll be replacing the shoes
> soon. I bled and bled and bled the brakes untill the fluid came out clean,
> and stayed clean in the resevor.
>
> I had a very hard time bleeding the passenger side, I think I need a new
> bleeder bolt. Common part?
>
> Anyway, the brakes are MUCH better now, but I still need to replace those
> shoes soon to be safe. Tips for replacing shoes?
>
> Carl
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:DNOdnbrGA8kLrNHfRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> > I don't think you did a good thing there, Carl.
> >
> > I can't imagine any brake work that would go smoothly if the brake fluid
> was
> > sucked out instead of pushed through. I am not sure, but I suspect you
> have
> > set up a faliure that would also result if you had replaced the master
> > cylinder but failed to perform a procedure called Bench Bleeding. Failure
> to
> > bench bleed will definitely result in having air in the system, and air
> will
> > lead to a mushy brake pedal and weak brakes.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:424bf93a_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > I put the nozzle in the top of the master and just did the resevior..
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
there.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Just to be clear.. I wasnt trying to suck the fluid out of the lines with
> the vacuum, just out of the resevior. I cleaned out the rear brakes and
> drums with a hose and brake cleaner, it was pretty dirty in there. I noticed
> that my shoes are a little thin, despite being reasonably new. There is also
> a ridge formed in the passenger side front shoe. I'll be replacing the shoes
> soon. I bled and bled and bled the brakes untill the fluid came out clean,
> and stayed clean in the resevor.
>
> I had a very hard time bleeding the passenger side, I think I need a new
> bleeder bolt. Common part?
>
> Anyway, the brakes are MUCH better now, but I still need to replace those
> shoes soon to be safe. Tips for replacing shoes?
>
> Carl
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:DNOdnbrGA8kLrNHfRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> > I don't think you did a good thing there, Carl.
> >
> > I can't imagine any brake work that would go smoothly if the brake fluid
> was
> > sucked out instead of pushed through. I am not sure, but I suspect you
> have
> > set up a faliure that would also result if you had replaced the master
> > cylinder but failed to perform a procedure called Bench Bleeding. Failure
> to
> > bench bleed will definitely result in having air in the system, and air
> will
> > lead to a mushy brake pedal and weak brakes.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:424bf93a_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > I put the nozzle in the top of the master and just did the resevior..
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
04-01-2005, 01:13 PM
#32
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: XJ brake UPDATE
I wasn't dreaming - nightmare really - that you were sucking the brake fluid
out of the lines. I was worried that you sucked the fluid out of the
reservior and got air in it, then trapped the air in the brake system by
refilling the reservior.
I have never heard of anybody using a vac to empty the reservior.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:424ca561$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Just to be clear.. I wasnt trying to suck the fluid out of the lines with
> the vacuum, just out of the resevior. I cleaned out the rear brakes and
> drums with a hose and brake cleaner, it was pretty dirty in there. I
noticed
> that my shoes are a little thin, despite being reasonably new. There is
also
> a ridge formed in the passenger side front shoe. I'll be replacing the
shoes
> soon. I bled and bled and bled the brakes untill the fluid came out clean,
> and stayed clean in the resevor.
>
> I had a very hard time bleeding the passenger side, I think I need a new
> bleeder bolt. Common part?
>
> Anyway, the brakes are MUCH better now, but I still need to replace those
> shoes soon to be safe. Tips for replacing shoes?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:DNOdnbrGA8kLrNHfRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> > I don't think you did a good thing there, Carl.
> >
> > I can't imagine any brake work that would go smoothly if the brake fluid
> was
> > sucked out instead of pushed through. I am not sure, but I suspect you
> have
> > set up a faliure that would also result if you had replaced the master
> > cylinder but failed to perform a procedure called Bench Bleeding.
Failure
> to
> > bench bleed will definitely result in having air in the system, and air
> will
> > lead to a mushy brake pedal and weak brakes.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:424bf93a_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > I put the nozzle in the top of the master and just did the resevior..
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
out of the lines. I was worried that you sucked the fluid out of the
reservior and got air in it, then trapped the air in the brake system by
refilling the reservior.
I have never heard of anybody using a vac to empty the reservior.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:424ca561$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Just to be clear.. I wasnt trying to suck the fluid out of the lines with
> the vacuum, just out of the resevior. I cleaned out the rear brakes and
> drums with a hose and brake cleaner, it was pretty dirty in there. I
noticed
> that my shoes are a little thin, despite being reasonably new. There is
also
> a ridge formed in the passenger side front shoe. I'll be replacing the
shoes
> soon. I bled and bled and bled the brakes untill the fluid came out clean,
> and stayed clean in the resevor.
>
> I had a very hard time bleeding the passenger side, I think I need a new
> bleeder bolt. Common part?
>
> Anyway, the brakes are MUCH better now, but I still need to replace those
> shoes soon to be safe. Tips for replacing shoes?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:DNOdnbrGA8kLrNHfRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> > I don't think you did a good thing there, Carl.
> >
> > I can't imagine any brake work that would go smoothly if the brake fluid
> was
> > sucked out instead of pushed through. I am not sure, but I suspect you
> have
> > set up a faliure that would also result if you had replaced the master
> > cylinder but failed to perform a procedure called Bench Bleeding.
Failure
> to
> > bench bleed will definitely result in having air in the system, and air
> will
> > lead to a mushy brake pedal and weak brakes.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:424bf93a_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > I put the nozzle in the top of the master and just did the resevior..
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
04-01-2005, 01:13 PM
#33
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: XJ brake UPDATE
I wasn't dreaming - nightmare really - that you were sucking the brake fluid
out of the lines. I was worried that you sucked the fluid out of the
reservior and got air in it, then trapped the air in the brake system by
refilling the reservior.
I have never heard of anybody using a vac to empty the reservior.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:424ca561$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Just to be clear.. I wasnt trying to suck the fluid out of the lines with
> the vacuum, just out of the resevior. I cleaned out the rear brakes and
> drums with a hose and brake cleaner, it was pretty dirty in there. I
noticed
> that my shoes are a little thin, despite being reasonably new. There is
also
> a ridge formed in the passenger side front shoe. I'll be replacing the
shoes
> soon. I bled and bled and bled the brakes untill the fluid came out clean,
> and stayed clean in the resevor.
>
> I had a very hard time bleeding the passenger side, I think I need a new
> bleeder bolt. Common part?
>
> Anyway, the brakes are MUCH better now, but I still need to replace those
> shoes soon to be safe. Tips for replacing shoes?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:DNOdnbrGA8kLrNHfRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> > I don't think you did a good thing there, Carl.
> >
> > I can't imagine any brake work that would go smoothly if the brake fluid
> was
> > sucked out instead of pushed through. I am not sure, but I suspect you
> have
> > set up a faliure that would also result if you had replaced the master
> > cylinder but failed to perform a procedure called Bench Bleeding.
Failure
> to
> > bench bleed will definitely result in having air in the system, and air
> will
> > lead to a mushy brake pedal and weak brakes.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:424bf93a_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > I put the nozzle in the top of the master and just did the resevior..
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
out of the lines. I was worried that you sucked the fluid out of the
reservior and got air in it, then trapped the air in the brake system by
refilling the reservior.
I have never heard of anybody using a vac to empty the reservior.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:424ca561$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Just to be clear.. I wasnt trying to suck the fluid out of the lines with
> the vacuum, just out of the resevior. I cleaned out the rear brakes and
> drums with a hose and brake cleaner, it was pretty dirty in there. I
noticed
> that my shoes are a little thin, despite being reasonably new. There is
also
> a ridge formed in the passenger side front shoe. I'll be replacing the
shoes
> soon. I bled and bled and bled the brakes untill the fluid came out clean,
> and stayed clean in the resevor.
>
> I had a very hard time bleeding the passenger side, I think I need a new
> bleeder bolt. Common part?
>
> Anyway, the brakes are MUCH better now, but I still need to replace those
> shoes soon to be safe. Tips for replacing shoes?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:DNOdnbrGA8kLrNHfRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> > I don't think you did a good thing there, Carl.
> >
> > I can't imagine any brake work that would go smoothly if the brake fluid
> was
> > sucked out instead of pushed through. I am not sure, but I suspect you
> have
> > set up a faliure that would also result if you had replaced the master
> > cylinder but failed to perform a procedure called Bench Bleeding.
Failure
> to
> > bench bleed will definitely result in having air in the system, and air
> will
> > lead to a mushy brake pedal and weak brakes.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:424bf93a_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > I put the nozzle in the top of the master and just did the resevior..
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
04-01-2005, 01:13 PM
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: XJ brake UPDATE
I wasn't dreaming - nightmare really - that you were sucking the brake fluid
out of the lines. I was worried that you sucked the fluid out of the
reservior and got air in it, then trapped the air in the brake system by
refilling the reservior.
I have never heard of anybody using a vac to empty the reservior.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:424ca561$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Just to be clear.. I wasnt trying to suck the fluid out of the lines with
> the vacuum, just out of the resevior. I cleaned out the rear brakes and
> drums with a hose and brake cleaner, it was pretty dirty in there. I
noticed
> that my shoes are a little thin, despite being reasonably new. There is
also
> a ridge formed in the passenger side front shoe. I'll be replacing the
shoes
> soon. I bled and bled and bled the brakes untill the fluid came out clean,
> and stayed clean in the resevor.
>
> I had a very hard time bleeding the passenger side, I think I need a new
> bleeder bolt. Common part?
>
> Anyway, the brakes are MUCH better now, but I still need to replace those
> shoes soon to be safe. Tips for replacing shoes?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:DNOdnbrGA8kLrNHfRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> > I don't think you did a good thing there, Carl.
> >
> > I can't imagine any brake work that would go smoothly if the brake fluid
> was
> > sucked out instead of pushed through. I am not sure, but I suspect you
> have
> > set up a faliure that would also result if you had replaced the master
> > cylinder but failed to perform a procedure called Bench Bleeding.
Failure
> to
> > bench bleed will definitely result in having air in the system, and air
> will
> > lead to a mushy brake pedal and weak brakes.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:424bf93a_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > I put the nozzle in the top of the master and just did the resevior..
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
out of the lines. I was worried that you sucked the fluid out of the
reservior and got air in it, then trapped the air in the brake system by
refilling the reservior.
I have never heard of anybody using a vac to empty the reservior.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:424ca561$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Just to be clear.. I wasnt trying to suck the fluid out of the lines with
> the vacuum, just out of the resevior. I cleaned out the rear brakes and
> drums with a hose and brake cleaner, it was pretty dirty in there. I
noticed
> that my shoes are a little thin, despite being reasonably new. There is
also
> a ridge formed in the passenger side front shoe. I'll be replacing the
shoes
> soon. I bled and bled and bled the brakes untill the fluid came out clean,
> and stayed clean in the resevor.
>
> I had a very hard time bleeding the passenger side, I think I need a new
> bleeder bolt. Common part?
>
> Anyway, the brakes are MUCH better now, but I still need to replace those
> shoes soon to be safe. Tips for replacing shoes?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:DNOdnbrGA8kLrNHfRVn-sQ@ez2.net...
> > I don't think you did a good thing there, Carl.
> >
> > I can't imagine any brake work that would go smoothly if the brake fluid
> was
> > sucked out instead of pushed through. I am not sure, but I suspect you
> have
> > set up a faliure that would also result if you had replaced the master
> > cylinder but failed to perform a procedure called Bench Bleeding.
Failure
> to
> > bench bleed will definitely result in having air in the system, and air
> will
> > lead to a mushy brake pedal and weak brakes.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:424bf93a_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > I put the nozzle in the top of the master and just did the resevior..
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>