XJ Brakes
03-31-2005, 01:24 AM
#11
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Re: XJ Brakes
lol how did he hook up the shop vac, thats what I wanna know.
KH
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
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> It sounds like you have induced mass quantities of air into a closed
> system.
> I suggest you visit a brake shop and have the system flushed properly.
> Please let us know when you leave the house so we can stay home.
>
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> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:424afba5$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> The brakes on my 89 Pioneer are getting pretty weak, even though when I
>> bought it about 4000 miles ago it had new pads/shoes all the way around.
> The
>> "Brake" light comes on when I push the brakes, usually if I push hard on
> the
>> pedal, but not always if I am realllly easy on the pedal. I checked the
>> fluid and it was dirty, so I used a shop vac to suck the fluid out.
> Filled,
>> pumped brakes with the master cap off, fluid was dirty again. Repeated
>> process 2-3 times and its now pretty clean, but same problem.
>>
>> I'm hoping for a bad (balooning/split/cut) brake line or water/air in the
>> lines that needs bleeding. But I'm thinking it's probably the master
>> cylinder.
>>
>> Other ideas are appreciated!
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
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>
KH
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:bcKdnWABlNq_htbfRVn-rw@ez2.net...
> It sounds like you have induced mass quantities of air into a closed
> system.
> I suggest you visit a brake shop and have the system flushed properly.
> Please let us know when you leave the house so we can stay home.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:424afba5$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> The brakes on my 89 Pioneer are getting pretty weak, even though when I
>> bought it about 4000 miles ago it had new pads/shoes all the way around.
> The
>> "Brake" light comes on when I push the brakes, usually if I push hard on
> the
>> pedal, but not always if I am realllly easy on the pedal. I checked the
>> fluid and it was dirty, so I used a shop vac to suck the fluid out.
> Filled,
>> pumped brakes with the master cap off, fluid was dirty again. Repeated
>> process 2-3 times and its now pretty clean, but same problem.
>>
>> I'm hoping for a bad (balooning/split/cut) brake line or water/air in the
>> lines that needs bleeding. But I'm thinking it's probably the master
>> cylinder.
>>
>> Other ideas are appreciated!
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
03-31-2005, 01:24 AM
#12
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Re: XJ Brakes
lol how did he hook up the shop vac, thats what I wanna know.
KH
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:bcKdnWABlNq_htbfRVn-rw@ez2.net...
> It sounds like you have induced mass quantities of air into a closed
> system.
> I suggest you visit a brake shop and have the system flushed properly.
> Please let us know when you leave the house so we can stay home.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:424afba5$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> The brakes on my 89 Pioneer are getting pretty weak, even though when I
>> bought it about 4000 miles ago it had new pads/shoes all the way around.
> The
>> "Brake" light comes on when I push the brakes, usually if I push hard on
> the
>> pedal, but not always if I am realllly easy on the pedal. I checked the
>> fluid and it was dirty, so I used a shop vac to suck the fluid out.
> Filled,
>> pumped brakes with the master cap off, fluid was dirty again. Repeated
>> process 2-3 times and its now pretty clean, but same problem.
>>
>> I'm hoping for a bad (balooning/split/cut) brake line or water/air in the
>> lines that needs bleeding. But I'm thinking it's probably the master
>> cylinder.
>>
>> Other ideas are appreciated!
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
KH
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:bcKdnWABlNq_htbfRVn-rw@ez2.net...
> It sounds like you have induced mass quantities of air into a closed
> system.
> I suggest you visit a brake shop and have the system flushed properly.
> Please let us know when you leave the house so we can stay home.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:424afba5$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> The brakes on my 89 Pioneer are getting pretty weak, even though when I
>> bought it about 4000 miles ago it had new pads/shoes all the way around.
> The
>> "Brake" light comes on when I push the brakes, usually if I push hard on
> the
>> pedal, but not always if I am realllly easy on the pedal. I checked the
>> fluid and it was dirty, so I used a shop vac to suck the fluid out.
> Filled,
>> pumped brakes with the master cap off, fluid was dirty again. Repeated
>> process 2-3 times and its now pretty clean, but same problem.
>>
>> I'm hoping for a bad (balooning/split/cut) brake line or water/air in the
>> lines that needs bleeding. But I'm thinking it's probably the master
>> cylinder.
>>
>> Other ideas are appreciated!
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
03-31-2005, 01:24 AM
#13
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Re: XJ Brakes
lol how did he hook up the shop vac, thats what I wanna know.
KH
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:bcKdnWABlNq_htbfRVn-rw@ez2.net...
> It sounds like you have induced mass quantities of air into a closed
> system.
> I suggest you visit a brake shop and have the system flushed properly.
> Please let us know when you leave the house so we can stay home.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:424afba5$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> The brakes on my 89 Pioneer are getting pretty weak, even though when I
>> bought it about 4000 miles ago it had new pads/shoes all the way around.
> The
>> "Brake" light comes on when I push the brakes, usually if I push hard on
> the
>> pedal, but not always if I am realllly easy on the pedal. I checked the
>> fluid and it was dirty, so I used a shop vac to suck the fluid out.
> Filled,
>> pumped brakes with the master cap off, fluid was dirty again. Repeated
>> process 2-3 times and its now pretty clean, but same problem.
>>
>> I'm hoping for a bad (balooning/split/cut) brake line or water/air in the
>> lines that needs bleeding. But I'm thinking it's probably the master
>> cylinder.
>>
>> Other ideas are appreciated!
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
KH
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:bcKdnWABlNq_htbfRVn-rw@ez2.net...
> It sounds like you have induced mass quantities of air into a closed
> system.
> I suggest you visit a brake shop and have the system flushed properly.
> Please let us know when you leave the house so we can stay home.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:424afba5$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> The brakes on my 89 Pioneer are getting pretty weak, even though when I
>> bought it about 4000 miles ago it had new pads/shoes all the way around.
> The
>> "Brake" light comes on when I push the brakes, usually if I push hard on
> the
>> pedal, but not always if I am realllly easy on the pedal. I checked the
>> fluid and it was dirty, so I used a shop vac to suck the fluid out.
> Filled,
>> pumped brakes with the master cap off, fluid was dirty again. Repeated
>> process 2-3 times and its now pretty clean, but same problem.
>>
>> I'm hoping for a bad (balooning/split/cut) brake line or water/air in the
>> lines that needs bleeding. But I'm thinking it's probably the master
>> cylinder.
>>
>> Other ideas are appreciated!
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>
>
03-31-2005, 01:59 AM
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OT Re: XJ Brakes
Hey, it works go good on the bathroom sinks too.
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Kevin in San Diego wrote:
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> lol how did he hook up the shop vac, thats what I wanna know.
> KH
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Kevin in San Diego wrote:
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> lol how did he hook up the shop vac, thats what I wanna know.
> KH
03-31-2005, 01:59 AM
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OT Re: XJ Brakes
Hey, it works go good on the bathroom sinks too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> lol how did he hook up the shop vac, thats what I wanna know.
> KH
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> lol how did he hook up the shop vac, thats what I wanna know.
> KH
03-31-2005, 01:59 AM
#16
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OT Re: XJ Brakes
Hey, it works go good on the bathroom sinks too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> lol how did he hook up the shop vac, thats what I wanna know.
> KH
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> lol how did he hook up the shop vac, thats what I wanna know.
> KH
03-31-2005, 12:21 PM
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Re: XJ Brakes
I don't think you did a good thing there, Carl.
I can't imagine any brake work that would go smoothly if the brake fluid was
sucked out instead of pushed through. I am not sure, but I suspect you have
set up a faliure that would also result if you had replaced the master
cylinder but failed to perform a procedure called Bench Bleeding. Failure to
bench bleed will definitely result in having air in the system, and air will
lead to a mushy brake pedal and weak brakes.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:424bf93a_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> I put the nozzle in the top of the master and just did the resevior..
>
> Carl
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I can't imagine any brake work that would go smoothly if the brake fluid was
sucked out instead of pushed through. I am not sure, but I suspect you have
set up a faliure that would also result if you had replaced the master
cylinder but failed to perform a procedure called Bench Bleeding. Failure to
bench bleed will definitely result in having air in the system, and air will
lead to a mushy brake pedal and weak brakes.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:424bf93a_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> I put the nozzle in the top of the master and just did the resevior..
>
> Carl
>
>
>