Mike Romain

Grumman-581 wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:09:58 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> When you pull the carpet back, you should find a small rubber hose that the
>> evaporator drains through. You can clean this drain, there is no need to
>> make a new one.
>
> Since it looked like I was going to be needing to remove the trim
> pieces in order to remove the pull the carpet and underlayment back, I
> tried working on it from the other end (i.e. from underneath the
> vehicle)... There is a black rubber hose hanging loose and I poked a
> wire up inside of it... It seems that I'm getting some drainage now,
> but I'll need to wait until the carpet dries out before I can
> determine if that is a complete solution... I suspect that it would be
> better to be running the wire through it from the other end since the
> way that I did it, any gunk that was in the line just got pressed back
> up inside and it might eventually migrate back there... Of course, I
> burnt the ---- out of underside of my right forearm on the exhaust
> while trying to do it... Damn, the exhaust is hot enough to singe
> hair... I figure that I would try this solution until someone posted
> the CORRECT way to do it...


Ah geese now you are making me feel almost guilty for taking my hard top
and doors off today with a clean and cruise instead of posting the 'fix'
to you earlier... Almost...

If you look inside up under the passenger side, you will see the drain
line. It has an elbow there. You can drill a hole in the corner of the
elbow to give access to ream it out then use something like a zirk
fitting and a dab of RTV to plug it back up again.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Jeff Strickland

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mb9953p3acbfloeccafj3041b07r0n3k40@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:09:58 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> When you pull the carpet back, you should find a small rubber hose that
>> the
>> evaporator drains through. You can clean this drain, there is no need to
>> make a new one.
>
> Since it looked like I was going to be needing to remove the trim
> pieces in order to remove the pull the carpet and underlayment back, I
> tried working on it from the other end (i.e. from underneath the
> vehicle)... There is a black rubber hose hanging loose and I poked a
> wire up inside of it... It seems that I'm getting some drainage now,
> but I'll need to wait until the carpet dries out before I can
> determine if that is a complete solution... I suspect that it would be
> better to be running the wire through it from the other end since the
> way that I did it, any gunk that was in the line just got pressed back
> up inside and it might eventually migrate back there... Of course, I
> burnt the ---- out of underside of my right forearm on the exhaust
> while trying to do it... Damn, the exhaust is hot enough to singe
> hair... I figure that I would try this solution until someone posted
> the CORRECT way to do it...



I would poke a hanger up the hose without any hesitation whatsoever.

I might also suggest that the hose may have come disconnected from the drain
hole.

Jeff Strickland

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mb9953p3acbfloeccafj3041b07r0n3k40@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:09:58 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> When you pull the carpet back, you should find a small rubber hose that
>> the
>> evaporator drains through. You can clean this drain, there is no need to
>> make a new one.
>
> Since it looked like I was going to be needing to remove the trim
> pieces in order to remove the pull the carpet and underlayment back, I
> tried working on it from the other end (i.e. from underneath the
> vehicle)... There is a black rubber hose hanging loose and I poked a
> wire up inside of it... It seems that I'm getting some drainage now,
> but I'll need to wait until the carpet dries out before I can
> determine if that is a complete solution... I suspect that it would be
> better to be running the wire through it from the other end since the
> way that I did it, any gunk that was in the line just got pressed back
> up inside and it might eventually migrate back there... Of course, I
> burnt the ---- out of underside of my right forearm on the exhaust
> while trying to do it... Damn, the exhaust is hot enough to singe
> hair... I figure that I would try this solution until someone posted
> the CORRECT way to do it...



I would poke a hanger up the hose without any hesitation whatsoever.

I might also suggest that the hose may have come disconnected from the drain
hole.

Jeff Strickland

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mb9953p3acbfloeccafj3041b07r0n3k40@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:09:58 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> When you pull the carpet back, you should find a small rubber hose that
>> the
>> evaporator drains through. You can clean this drain, there is no need to
>> make a new one.
>
> Since it looked like I was going to be needing to remove the trim
> pieces in order to remove the pull the carpet and underlayment back, I
> tried working on it from the other end (i.e. from underneath the
> vehicle)... There is a black rubber hose hanging loose and I poked a
> wire up inside of it... It seems that I'm getting some drainage now,
> but I'll need to wait until the carpet dries out before I can
> determine if that is a complete solution... I suspect that it would be
> better to be running the wire through it from the other end since the
> way that I did it, any gunk that was in the line just got pressed back
> up inside and it might eventually migrate back there... Of course, I
> burnt the ---- out of underside of my right forearm on the exhaust
> while trying to do it... Damn, the exhaust is hot enough to singe
> hair... I figure that I would try this solution until someone posted
> the CORRECT way to do it...



I would poke a hanger up the hose without any hesitation whatsoever.

I might also suggest that the hose may have come disconnected from the drain
hole.

Jeff Strickland

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mb9953p3acbfloeccafj3041b07r0n3k40@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:09:58 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> When you pull the carpet back, you should find a small rubber hose that
>> the
>> evaporator drains through. You can clean this drain, there is no need to
>> make a new one.
>
> Since it looked like I was going to be needing to remove the trim
> pieces in order to remove the pull the carpet and underlayment back, I
> tried working on it from the other end (i.e. from underneath the
> vehicle)... There is a black rubber hose hanging loose and I poked a
> wire up inside of it... It seems that I'm getting some drainage now,
> but I'll need to wait until the carpet dries out before I can
> determine if that is a complete solution... I suspect that it would be
> better to be running the wire through it from the other end since the
> way that I did it, any gunk that was in the line just got pressed back
> up inside and it might eventually migrate back there... Of course, I
> burnt the ---- out of underside of my right forearm on the exhaust
> while trying to do it... Damn, the exhaust is hot enough to singe
> hair... I figure that I would try this solution until someone posted
> the CORRECT way to do it...



I would poke a hanger up the hose without any hesitation whatsoever.

I might also suggest that the hose may have come disconnected from the drain
hole.

Earle Horton

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mb9953p3acbfloeccafj3041b07r0n3k40@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:09:58 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > When you pull the carpet back, you should find a small rubber hose
> > that the evaporator drains through. You can clean this drain, there is
> > no need to make a new one.
>
> Since it looked like I was going to be needing to remove the trim
> pieces in order to remove the pull the carpet and underlayment back, I
> tried working on it from the other end (i.e. from underneath the
> vehicle)... There is a black rubber hose hanging loose and I poked a
> wire up inside of it... It seems that I'm getting some drainage now,
> but I'll need to wait until the carpet dries out before I can
> determine if that is a complete solution... I suspect that it would be
> better to be running the wire through it from the other end since the
> way that I did it, any gunk that was in the line just got pressed back
> up inside and it might eventually migrate back there... Of course, I
> burnt the ---- out of underside of my right forearm on the exhaust
> while trying to do it... Damn, the exhaust is hot enough to singe
> hair... I figure that I would try this solution until someone posted
> the CORRECT way to do it...

The "correct" way is to run the vehicle up on some ramps and then let the
exhaust cool off. I hate to be a wet blanket but if there is enough gunk to
clog up the drain hole then chances are pretty good that it is all over the
evaporator fins too. Follow the instructions for removing the evaporator,
but stop after it is exposed and then clean the inside of the box and the
fins. You might get lucky and a leaf blew in there, but who is that lucky?
If the gunk is built up on the inaccessible side then you have real
problems.

Earle Horton

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mb9953p3acbfloeccafj3041b07r0n3k40@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:09:58 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > When you pull the carpet back, you should find a small rubber hose
> > that the evaporator drains through. You can clean this drain, there is
> > no need to make a new one.
>
> Since it looked like I was going to be needing to remove the trim
> pieces in order to remove the pull the carpet and underlayment back, I
> tried working on it from the other end (i.e. from underneath the
> vehicle)... There is a black rubber hose hanging loose and I poked a
> wire up inside of it... It seems that I'm getting some drainage now,
> but I'll need to wait until the carpet dries out before I can
> determine if that is a complete solution... I suspect that it would be
> better to be running the wire through it from the other end since the
> way that I did it, any gunk that was in the line just got pressed back
> up inside and it might eventually migrate back there... Of course, I
> burnt the ---- out of underside of my right forearm on the exhaust
> while trying to do it... Damn, the exhaust is hot enough to singe
> hair... I figure that I would try this solution until someone posted
> the CORRECT way to do it...

The "correct" way is to run the vehicle up on some ramps and then let the
exhaust cool off. I hate to be a wet blanket but if there is enough gunk to
clog up the drain hole then chances are pretty good that it is all over the
evaporator fins too. Follow the instructions for removing the evaporator,
but stop after it is exposed and then clean the inside of the box and the
fins. You might get lucky and a leaf blew in there, but who is that lucky?
If the gunk is built up on the inaccessible side then you have real
problems.

Earle Horton

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mb9953p3acbfloeccafj3041b07r0n3k40@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:09:58 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > When you pull the carpet back, you should find a small rubber hose
> > that the evaporator drains through. You can clean this drain, there is
> > no need to make a new one.
>
> Since it looked like I was going to be needing to remove the trim
> pieces in order to remove the pull the carpet and underlayment back, I
> tried working on it from the other end (i.e. from underneath the
> vehicle)... There is a black rubber hose hanging loose and I poked a
> wire up inside of it... It seems that I'm getting some drainage now,
> but I'll need to wait until the carpet dries out before I can
> determine if that is a complete solution... I suspect that it would be
> better to be running the wire through it from the other end since the
> way that I did it, any gunk that was in the line just got pressed back
> up inside and it might eventually migrate back there... Of course, I
> burnt the ---- out of underside of my right forearm on the exhaust
> while trying to do it... Damn, the exhaust is hot enough to singe
> hair... I figure that I would try this solution until someone posted
> the CORRECT way to do it...

The "correct" way is to run the vehicle up on some ramps and then let the
exhaust cool off. I hate to be a wet blanket but if there is enough gunk to
clog up the drain hole then chances are pretty good that it is all over the
evaporator fins too. Follow the instructions for removing the evaporator,
but stop after it is exposed and then clean the inside of the box and the
fins. You might get lucky and a leaf blew in there, but who is that lucky?
If the gunk is built up on the inaccessible side then you have real
problems.

Earle Horton

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mb9953p3acbfloeccafj3041b07r0n3k40@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:09:58 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > When you pull the carpet back, you should find a small rubber hose
> > that the evaporator drains through. You can clean this drain, there is
> > no need to make a new one.
>
> Since it looked like I was going to be needing to remove the trim
> pieces in order to remove the pull the carpet and underlayment back, I
> tried working on it from the other end (i.e. from underneath the
> vehicle)... There is a black rubber hose hanging loose and I poked a
> wire up inside of it... It seems that I'm getting some drainage now,
> but I'll need to wait until the carpet dries out before I can
> determine if that is a complete solution... I suspect that it would be
> better to be running the wire through it from the other end since the
> way that I did it, any gunk that was in the line just got pressed back
> up inside and it might eventually migrate back there... Of course, I
> burnt the ---- out of underside of my right forearm on the exhaust
> while trying to do it... Damn, the exhaust is hot enough to singe
> hair... I figure that I would try this solution until someone posted
> the CORRECT way to do it...

The "correct" way is to run the vehicle up on some ramps and then let the
exhaust cool off. I hate to be a wet blanket but if there is enough gunk to
clog up the drain hole then chances are pretty good that it is all over the
evaporator fins too. Follow the instructions for removing the evaporator,
but stop after it is exposed and then clean the inside of the box and the
fins. You might get lucky and a leaf blew in there, but who is that lucky?
If the gunk is built up on the inaccessible side then you have real
problems.

Grumman-581

On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:08:03 -0700, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com>
wrote:
> Usually the gods consider a burnt arm as equal to a blood sacrifice but
> watch out, they may still want blood as well as burn! <G>

The usual scraped knuckles managed to satisfy that portion of it...

As I pulled the carpet up, I noticed some extremely small insects
under there... Kind of looked like ants, but a lot smaller than the
fire ants that we normally have around here... Not a lot of them, but
enough that I decided to investigate further... The padding under the
carpet was soaked, so I decided that at the least, it was time to
replace the carpet in my XJ... I cut it out on the passenger side and
discovered a couple of small holes where it had rusted through...
Probably about an inch in diameter... Worked my way back to the rear
of the passenger side and found a larger section that had rusted out
directly above the muffler... It was a complete hole, but it was
flimsy enough that my cleaning it up made it look like Swiss cheese...
Probably about 6" across and maybe 12" in length... Investigating
further, it appears that when the stealership put the underbody
rustproofing on the vehicle, they did missed the area above the
muffler... The carpet removal on the driver's side showed no rust
whatsoever... It looked brand new...

I've seen some of the guys with the CJs, YJs, and TJs who removed the
carpet from their vehicles and then had the metal covered with the
Rhino spray on liner... Anyone around here tried that with an XJ? Do
you relocate the wires that go across the floorboard on the driver's
side or do you just embed them in the polyurethane material?

Looks like it's going to be awhile before I'm driving my XJ again...