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Shamus in CO 04-16-2004 10:11 PM

XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
*very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
all think?


Shamus



c 04-16-2004 10:14 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 

"Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?
>
>
> Shamus
>
>


Loses electrical power, as in dash lights etc., or loses power like the
engine wants to stop running but the lights etc. keep working?

Chris



c 04-16-2004 10:14 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 

"Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?
>
>
> Shamus
>
>


Loses electrical power, as in dash lights etc., or loses power like the
engine wants to stop running but the lights etc. keep working?

Chris



c 04-16-2004 10:14 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 

"Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?
>
>
> Shamus
>
>


Loses electrical power, as in dash lights etc., or loses power like the
engine wants to stop running but the lights etc. keep working?

Chris



c 04-16-2004 10:14 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 

"Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?
>
>
> Shamus
>
>


Loses electrical power, as in dash lights etc., or loses power like the
engine wants to stop running but the lights etc. keep working?

Chris



Shamus in CO 04-16-2004 10:15 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Sorry, engine loses power. You gotta give it a little more pedal and almost
feather it to get any ooomph.
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:mp0gc.55542$YC5.445@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> "Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do

you
> > all think?
> >
> >
> > Shamus
> >
> >

>
> Loses electrical power, as in dash lights etc., or loses power like the
> engine wants to stop running but the lights etc. keep working?
>
> Chris
>
>




Shamus in CO 04-16-2004 10:15 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Sorry, engine loses power. You gotta give it a little more pedal and almost
feather it to get any ooomph.
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:mp0gc.55542$YC5.445@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> "Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do

you
> > all think?
> >
> >
> > Shamus
> >
> >

>
> Loses electrical power, as in dash lights etc., or loses power like the
> engine wants to stop running but the lights etc. keep working?
>
> Chris
>
>




Shamus in CO 04-16-2004 10:15 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Sorry, engine loses power. You gotta give it a little more pedal and almost
feather it to get any ooomph.
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:mp0gc.55542$YC5.445@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> "Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do

you
> > all think?
> >
> >
> > Shamus
> >
> >

>
> Loses electrical power, as in dash lights etc., or loses power like the
> engine wants to stop running but the lights etc. keep working?
>
> Chris
>
>




Shamus in CO 04-16-2004 10:15 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Sorry, engine loses power. You gotta give it a little more pedal and almost
feather it to get any ooomph.
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:mp0gc.55542$YC5.445@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> "Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do

you
> > all think?
> >
> >
> > Shamus
> >
> >

>
> Loses electrical power, as in dash lights etc., or loses power like the
> engine wants to stop running but the lights etc. keep working?
>
> Chris
>
>




c 04-16-2004 10:34 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
OK, obviously it is fuel injected, so that rules out float levels, lol. It
could be something that is causing the fuel supply to stop, or something
that is losing electrical contact due to a lose wire, bad ground, etc. I
would check for any lose connections. My gut feeling though is that it might
be a fuel issue. The fuel pickup in the tank may not be "right" and may be
sucking air when you make a left turn. You could probably test this by
jacking the left side of the vehicle up as high as possible (safely of
course) and see if it does the same thing.

Chris


"Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pf6dnQ2VDK_WDh3dRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
> Sorry, engine loses power. You gotta give it a little more pedal and

almost
> feather it to get any ooomph.
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:mp0gc.55542$YC5.445@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> > > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller

was
> > > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do

> you
> > > all think?
> > >
> > >
> > > Shamus
> > >
> > >

> >
> > Loses electrical power, as in dash lights etc., or loses power like the
> > engine wants to stop running but the lights etc. keep working?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >

>
>




c 04-16-2004 10:34 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
OK, obviously it is fuel injected, so that rules out float levels, lol. It
could be something that is causing the fuel supply to stop, or something
that is losing electrical contact due to a lose wire, bad ground, etc. I
would check for any lose connections. My gut feeling though is that it might
be a fuel issue. The fuel pickup in the tank may not be "right" and may be
sucking air when you make a left turn. You could probably test this by
jacking the left side of the vehicle up as high as possible (safely of
course) and see if it does the same thing.

Chris


"Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pf6dnQ2VDK_WDh3dRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
> Sorry, engine loses power. You gotta give it a little more pedal and

almost
> feather it to get any ooomph.
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:mp0gc.55542$YC5.445@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> > > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller

was
> > > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do

> you
> > > all think?
> > >
> > >
> > > Shamus
> > >
> > >

> >
> > Loses electrical power, as in dash lights etc., or loses power like the
> > engine wants to stop running but the lights etc. keep working?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >

>
>




c 04-16-2004 10:34 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
OK, obviously it is fuel injected, so that rules out float levels, lol. It
could be something that is causing the fuel supply to stop, or something
that is losing electrical contact due to a lose wire, bad ground, etc. I
would check for any lose connections. My gut feeling though is that it might
be a fuel issue. The fuel pickup in the tank may not be "right" and may be
sucking air when you make a left turn. You could probably test this by
jacking the left side of the vehicle up as high as possible (safely of
course) and see if it does the same thing.

Chris


"Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pf6dnQ2VDK_WDh3dRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
> Sorry, engine loses power. You gotta give it a little more pedal and

almost
> feather it to get any ooomph.
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:mp0gc.55542$YC5.445@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> > > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller

was
> > > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do

> you
> > > all think?
> > >
> > >
> > > Shamus
> > >
> > >

> >
> > Loses electrical power, as in dash lights etc., or loses power like the
> > engine wants to stop running but the lights etc. keep working?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >

>
>




c 04-16-2004 10:34 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
OK, obviously it is fuel injected, so that rules out float levels, lol. It
could be something that is causing the fuel supply to stop, or something
that is losing electrical contact due to a lose wire, bad ground, etc. I
would check for any lose connections. My gut feeling though is that it might
be a fuel issue. The fuel pickup in the tank may not be "right" and may be
sucking air when you make a left turn. You could probably test this by
jacking the left side of the vehicle up as high as possible (safely of
course) and see if it does the same thing.

Chris


"Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pf6dnQ2VDK_WDh3dRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
> Sorry, engine loses power. You gotta give it a little more pedal and

almost
> feather it to get any ooomph.
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:mp0gc.55542$YC5.445@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >
> > "Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> > > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller

was
> > > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do

> you
> > > all think?
> > >
> > >
> > > Shamus
> > >
> > >

> >
> > Loses electrical power, as in dash lights etc., or loses power like the
> > engine wants to stop running but the lights etc. keep working?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >

>
>




DougW 04-16-2004 11:12 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?


Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.

Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be binding
up.

Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is caused
by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and therefore
on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
on the engine if everything is normal.

Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in there.
That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there should
be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
(easy job)

Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
diffs (but you should hear that easily).

I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)

mmm.. Guinness. :D

--
DougW






DougW 04-16-2004 11:12 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?


Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.

Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be binding
up.

Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is caused
by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and therefore
on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
on the engine if everything is normal.

Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in there.
That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there should
be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
(easy job)

Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
diffs (but you should hear that easily).

I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)

mmm.. Guinness. :D

--
DougW






DougW 04-16-2004 11:12 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?


Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.

Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be binding
up.

Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is caused
by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and therefore
on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
on the engine if everything is normal.

Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in there.
That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there should
be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
(easy job)

Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
diffs (but you should hear that easily).

I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)

mmm.. Guinness. :D

--
DougW






DougW 04-16-2004 11:12 PM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
> all think?


Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.

Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be binding
up.

Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is caused
by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and therefore
on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
on the engine if everything is normal.

Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in there.
That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there should
be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
(easy job)

Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
diffs (but you should hear that easily).

I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)

mmm.. Guinness. :D

--
DougW






Cherokee-LTD 04-17-2004 08:53 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 

"Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
: 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
: *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
: all think?
:
:
: Shamus
:
Hey Shamus,
A friend of mine (Mo) went through this years ago with an Dodge van (318
w/carb) and the obvious solution was stop making left turns. When that joke
got old he brought it into a friends shop (Garry). Garry replaced many, many
components ($400+) and Mo was getting a little pissed off so he took it to a
well equipped shop where they said "Oh, it's your coil... $60.00". Mo and
Garry don't get along very well anymore.

The moral of the story:
a: check the coil
b: before you start guessing and throwing money into it, you may be wise to
shell out a few bucks to have it checked by a qualified, well equipped shop.

Good of the seller to be forthright, maybe they have tried a few things and
could pass on some more info.
-Brian



Cherokee-LTD 04-17-2004 08:53 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 

"Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
: 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
: *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
: all think?
:
:
: Shamus
:
Hey Shamus,
A friend of mine (Mo) went through this years ago with an Dodge van (318
w/carb) and the obvious solution was stop making left turns. When that joke
got old he brought it into a friends shop (Garry). Garry replaced many, many
components ($400+) and Mo was getting a little pissed off so he took it to a
well equipped shop where they said "Oh, it's your coil... $60.00". Mo and
Garry don't get along very well anymore.

The moral of the story:
a: check the coil
b: before you start guessing and throwing money into it, you may be wise to
shell out a few bucks to have it checked by a qualified, well equipped shop.

Good of the seller to be forthright, maybe they have tried a few things and
could pass on some more info.
-Brian



Cherokee-LTD 04-17-2004 08:53 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 

"Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
: 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
: *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
: all think?
:
:
: Shamus
:
Hey Shamus,
A friend of mine (Mo) went through this years ago with an Dodge van (318
w/carb) and the obvious solution was stop making left turns. When that joke
got old he brought it into a friends shop (Garry). Garry replaced many, many
components ($400+) and Mo was getting a little pissed off so he took it to a
well equipped shop where they said "Oh, it's your coil... $60.00". Mo and
Garry don't get along very well anymore.

The moral of the story:
a: check the coil
b: before you start guessing and throwing money into it, you may be wise to
shell out a few bucks to have it checked by a qualified, well equipped shop.

Good of the seller to be forthright, maybe they have tried a few things and
could pass on some more info.
-Brian



Cherokee-LTD 04-17-2004 08:53 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 

"Shamus in CO" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:E7WdnbwMTdnCDx3dRVn-hw@comcast.com...
: 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
: *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do you
: all think?
:
:
: Shamus
:
Hey Shamus,
A friend of mine (Mo) went through this years ago with an Dodge van (318
w/carb) and the obvious solution was stop making left turns. When that joke
got old he brought it into a friends shop (Garry). Garry replaced many, many
components ($400+) and Mo was getting a little pissed off so he took it to a
well equipped shop where they said "Oh, it's your coil... $60.00". Mo and
Garry don't get along very well anymore.

The moral of the story:
a: check the coil
b: before you start guessing and throwing money into it, you may be wise to
shell out a few bucks to have it checked by a qualified, well equipped shop.

Good of the seller to be forthright, maybe they have tried a few things and
could pass on some more info.
-Brian



Cherokee-LTD 04-17-2004 08:56 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
:
: Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
: diffs (but you should hear that easily).
:
: I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
:
: mmm.. Guinness. :D
:
LOL!!! I will archive this message for the next time my XJ is running
rough... "Honey, look here, it might be the diffs. Why don't I swap in those
44's... just in case!"
-Brian



Cherokee-LTD 04-17-2004 08:56 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
:
: Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
: diffs (but you should hear that easily).
:
: I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
:
: mmm.. Guinness. :D
:
LOL!!! I will archive this message for the next time my XJ is running
rough... "Honey, look here, it might be the diffs. Why don't I swap in those
44's... just in case!"
-Brian



Cherokee-LTD 04-17-2004 08:56 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
:
: Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
: diffs (but you should hear that easily).
:
: I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
:
: mmm.. Guinness. :D
:
LOL!!! I will archive this message for the next time my XJ is running
rough... "Honey, look here, it might be the diffs. Why don't I swap in those
44's... just in case!"
-Brian



Cherokee-LTD 04-17-2004 08:56 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
:
: Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
: diffs (but you should hear that easily).
:
: I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
:
: mmm.. Guinness. :D
:
LOL!!! I will archive this message for the next time my XJ is running
rough... "Honey, look here, it might be the diffs. Why don't I swap in those
44's... just in case!"
-Brian



SB 04-17-2004 09:21 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?

I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
somewhere.....

sb

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:qg1gc.10171$ec1.851@okepread01...
> Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do

you
> > all think?

>
> Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.
>
> Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be

binding
> up.
>
> Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
> more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is

caused
> by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and

therefore
> on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
> on the engine if everything is normal.
>
> Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in

there.
> That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there

should
> be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
> (easy job)
>
> Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
> diffs (but you should hear that easily).
>
> I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
>
> mmm.. Guinness. :D
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>
>




SB 04-17-2004 09:21 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?

I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
somewhere.....

sb

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:qg1gc.10171$ec1.851@okepread01...
> Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do

you
> > all think?

>
> Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.
>
> Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be

binding
> up.
>
> Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
> more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is

caused
> by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and

therefore
> on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
> on the engine if everything is normal.
>
> Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in

there.
> That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there

should
> be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
> (easy job)
>
> Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
> diffs (but you should hear that easily).
>
> I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
>
> mmm.. Guinness. :D
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>
>




SB 04-17-2004 09:21 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?

I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
somewhere.....

sb

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:qg1gc.10171$ec1.851@okepread01...
> Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do

you
> > all think?

>
> Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.
>
> Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be

binding
> up.
>
> Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
> more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is

caused
> by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and

therefore
> on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
> on the engine if everything is normal.
>
> Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in

there.
> That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there

should
> be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
> (easy job)
>
> Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
> diffs (but you should hear that easily).
>
> I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
>
> mmm.. Guinness. :D
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>
>




SB 04-17-2004 09:21 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?

I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
somewhere.....

sb

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:qg1gc.10171$ec1.851@okepread01...
> Shamus in CO did pass the time by typing:
> > 96 XJ 4.0 AT loses power when you make hard left turns. The seller was
> > *very* upfront w/this detail long before I did a test-drive. What do

you
> > all think?

>
> Long shot. Check the motor mounts to see if the driver's side is broken.
>
> Check all the throttle body links and hoses for anything that could be

binding
> up.
>
> Not so long shot. Crank the steering to full lock left plus just a touch
> more (don't keep it there, it's hard on the pump) see if that lag is

caused
> by a binding steering system causing more drag on the PS pump and

therefore
> on the engine. Try the same thing to the right. Should put the same lag
> on the engine if everything is normal.
>
> Another. Pop the cap off the distributor and see if there is oil in

there.
> That shouldn't be causing any problems unless there is a lot. (there

should
> be none) If there is oil in there you need to replace the distributor.
> (easy job)
>
> Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
> diffs (but you should hear that easily).
>
> I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
>
> mmm.. Guinness. :D
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>
>
>




DougW 04-17-2004 09:24 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Cherokee-LTD did pass the time by typing:
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>>
>> Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
>> diffs (but you should hear that easily).
>>
>> I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
>>
>> mmm.. Guinness. :D
>>

> LOL!!! I will archive this message for the next time my XJ is running
> rough... "Honey, look here, it might be the diffs. Why don't I swap in those
> 44's... just in case!"


You never know when that rough running is being caused by having too small a tire
or the cabin noise from being too close to the road.

Now you can justify larger wheels and a lift kit. :)

--
DougW



DougW 04-17-2004 09:24 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Cherokee-LTD did pass the time by typing:
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>>
>> Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
>> diffs (but you should hear that easily).
>>
>> I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
>>
>> mmm.. Guinness. :D
>>

> LOL!!! I will archive this message for the next time my XJ is running
> rough... "Honey, look here, it might be the diffs. Why don't I swap in those
> 44's... just in case!"


You never know when that rough running is being caused by having too small a tire
or the cabin noise from being too close to the road.

Now you can justify larger wheels and a lift kit. :)

--
DougW



DougW 04-17-2004 09:24 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Cherokee-LTD did pass the time by typing:
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>>
>> Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
>> diffs (but you should hear that easily).
>>
>> I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
>>
>> mmm.. Guinness. :D
>>

> LOL!!! I will archive this message for the next time my XJ is running
> rough... "Honey, look here, it might be the diffs. Why don't I swap in those
> 44's... just in case!"


You never know when that rough running is being caused by having too small a tire
or the cabin noise from being too close to the road.

Now you can justify larger wheels and a lift kit. :)

--
DougW



DougW 04-17-2004 09:24 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
Cherokee-LTD did pass the time by typing:
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>>
>> Hard to tell for sure, there could be all sorts of things even down to bad
>> diffs (but you should hear that easily).
>>
>> I'm guessing here (as if you can't tell) :)
>>
>> mmm.. Guinness. :D
>>

> LOL!!! I will archive this message for the next time my XJ is running
> rough... "Honey, look here, it might be the diffs. Why don't I swap in those
> 44's... just in case!"


You never know when that rough running is being caused by having too small a tire
or the cabin noise from being too close to the road.

Now you can justify larger wheels and a lift kit. :)

--
DougW



DougW 04-17-2004 09:33 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
SB did pass the time by typing:
> Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
> crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?


The distributor sits down in the block and its gear gets oil from the engine.
There is a seal (bushing) pressed into the shaft that keeps oil from getting
up to the cap and rotor. As that bushing wears, oil can work up into the base
of the distributor and start to foul the internals. Generally the dist gets
so much slop it throws the timing off or starts damaging the posts.

Long time back this was more important because the points sat low enough
to get crudded up with oil.

> I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
> of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> somewhere.....


It does. There is also a small blade on the end of that shaft that turns your
oil pump and the little gear is turned by your camshaft.

This is my experience.
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/distributor/

--
DougW



DougW 04-17-2004 09:33 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
SB did pass the time by typing:
> Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
> crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?


The distributor sits down in the block and its gear gets oil from the engine.
There is a seal (bushing) pressed into the shaft that keeps oil from getting
up to the cap and rotor. As that bushing wears, oil can work up into the base
of the distributor and start to foul the internals. Generally the dist gets
so much slop it throws the timing off or starts damaging the posts.

Long time back this was more important because the points sat low enough
to get crudded up with oil.

> I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
> of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> somewhere.....


It does. There is also a small blade on the end of that shaft that turns your
oil pump and the little gear is turned by your camshaft.

This is my experience.
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/distributor/

--
DougW



DougW 04-17-2004 09:33 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
SB did pass the time by typing:
> Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
> crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?


The distributor sits down in the block and its gear gets oil from the engine.
There is a seal (bushing) pressed into the shaft that keeps oil from getting
up to the cap and rotor. As that bushing wears, oil can work up into the base
of the distributor and start to foul the internals. Generally the dist gets
so much slop it throws the timing off or starts damaging the posts.

Long time back this was more important because the points sat low enough
to get crudded up with oil.

> I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
> of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> somewhere.....


It does. There is also a small blade on the end of that shaft that turns your
oil pump and the little gear is turned by your camshaft.

This is my experience.
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/distributor/

--
DougW



DougW 04-17-2004 09:33 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
SB did pass the time by typing:
> Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except by an
> crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?


The distributor sits down in the block and its gear gets oil from the engine.
There is a seal (bushing) pressed into the shaft that keeps oil from getting
up to the cap and rotor. As that bushing wears, oil can work up into the base
of the distributor and start to foul the internals. Generally the dist gets
so much slop it throws the timing off or starts damaging the posts.

Long time back this was more important because the points sat low enough
to get crudded up with oil.

> I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on top
> of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> somewhere.....


It does. There is also a small blade on the end of that shaft that turns your
oil pump and the little gear is turned by your camshaft.

This is my experience.
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/distributor/

--
DougW



SB 04-17-2004 09:42 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
I've never held it in my hands so I'm trying to picture it....but I guess I
could see how it'd get up there....but inside....
I don't have one on my '02 (coils??/ignition module??).

sb
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Emagc.18723$ec1.16202@okepread01...
> SB did pass the time by typing:
> > Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except

by an
> > crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?

>
> The distributor sits down in the block and its gear gets oil from the

engine.
> There is a seal (bushing) pressed into the shaft that keeps oil from

getting
> up to the cap and rotor. As that bushing wears, oil can work up into the

base
> of the distributor and start to foul the internals. Generally the dist

gets
> so much slop it throws the timing off or starts damaging the posts.
>
> Long time back this was more important because the points sat low enough
> to get crudded up with oil.
>
> > I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on

top
> > of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> > somewhere.....

>
> It does. There is also a small blade on the end of that shaft that turns

your
> oil pump and the little gear is turned by your camshaft.
>
> This is my experience.
> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/distributor/
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




SB 04-17-2004 09:42 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
I've never held it in my hands so I'm trying to picture it....but I guess I
could see how it'd get up there....but inside....
I don't have one on my '02 (coils??/ignition module??).

sb
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Emagc.18723$ec1.16202@okepread01...
> SB did pass the time by typing:
> > Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except

by an
> > crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?

>
> The distributor sits down in the block and its gear gets oil from the

engine.
> There is a seal (bushing) pressed into the shaft that keeps oil from

getting
> up to the cap and rotor. As that bushing wears, oil can work up into the

base
> of the distributor and start to foul the internals. Generally the dist

gets
> so much slop it throws the timing off or starts damaging the posts.
>
> Long time back this was more important because the points sat low enough
> to get crudded up with oil.
>
> > I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on

top
> > of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> > somewhere.....

>
> It does. There is also a small blade on the end of that shaft that turns

your
> oil pump and the little gear is turned by your camshaft.
>
> This is my experience.
> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/distributor/
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




SB 04-17-2004 09:42 AM

Re: XJ 4.0 loses power on left turns
 
I've never held it in my hands so I'm trying to picture it....but I guess I
could see how it'd get up there....but inside....
I don't have one on my '02 (coils??/ignition module??).

sb
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Emagc.18723$ec1.16202@okepread01...
> SB did pass the time by typing:
> > Just a question on the dist cap....how would oil get in to that except

by an
> > crack on the outside that had oil dumped on to?

>
> The distributor sits down in the block and its gear gets oil from the

engine.
> There is a seal (bushing) pressed into the shaft that keeps oil from

getting
> up to the cap and rotor. As that bushing wears, oil can work up into the

base
> of the distributor and start to foul the internals. Generally the dist

gets
> so much slop it throws the timing off or starts damaging the posts.
>
> Long time back this was more important because the points sat low enough
> to get crudded up with oil.
>
> > I'm not all that engine savvy but thought that the dist cap just sat on

top
> > of a spindle with a gear on the end of which poked down in to the motor
> > somewhere.....

>
> It does. There is also a small blade on the end of that shaft that turns

your
> oil pump and the little gear is turned by your camshaft.
>
> This is my experience.
> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/distributor/
>
> --
> DougW
>
>





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