which wt fluids to use?
10-27-2003, 05:33 PM
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Re: which wt fluids to use?
In article <b102b6e4.0310271154.30013709@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
>Not sure which vehicle you have, but if it's an AMC axle it's likely a
>CJ. The Chilton guide for CJs 76-86 states that the transfer case and
>transmission on CJs are linked and share fluids, although it is
>necessary to drain both reservoirs separately when doing a change to
>ensure everything drains completely. Whatever fluid you select, you
>better be sure you use the same thing on both and change it all at
>once!
The model is irrelevent, as is the manual for that model, since he stated he
has a sDynatrac Dana 60 and NVG4500 tranny, neither of which were ever
available from factory in a Jeep. More than likely he has a Dana 30 front and
Dynatrac 60 rear...if he had an AMC20 rear it's highly unlikely he would put a
stronger axle in front. But not impossible.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
>Not sure which vehicle you have, but if it's an AMC axle it's likely a
>CJ. The Chilton guide for CJs 76-86 states that the transfer case and
>transmission on CJs are linked and share fluids, although it is
>necessary to drain both reservoirs separately when doing a change to
>ensure everything drains completely. Whatever fluid you select, you
>better be sure you use the same thing on both and change it all at
>once!
The model is irrelevent, as is the manual for that model, since he stated he
has a sDynatrac Dana 60 and NVG4500 tranny, neither of which were ever
available from factory in a Jeep. More than likely he has a Dana 30 front and
Dynatrac 60 rear...if he had an AMC20 rear it's highly unlikely he would put a
stronger axle in front. But not impossible.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-27-2003, 05:33 PM
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Re: which wt fluids to use?
In article <b102b6e4.0310271154.30013709@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
>Not sure which vehicle you have, but if it's an AMC axle it's likely a
>CJ. The Chilton guide for CJs 76-86 states that the transfer case and
>transmission on CJs are linked and share fluids, although it is
>necessary to drain both reservoirs separately when doing a change to
>ensure everything drains completely. Whatever fluid you select, you
>better be sure you use the same thing on both and change it all at
>once!
The model is irrelevent, as is the manual for that model, since he stated he
has a sDynatrac Dana 60 and NVG4500 tranny, neither of which were ever
available from factory in a Jeep. More than likely he has a Dana 30 front and
Dynatrac 60 rear...if he had an AMC20 rear it's highly unlikely he would put a
stronger axle in front. But not impossible.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
>Not sure which vehicle you have, but if it's an AMC axle it's likely a
>CJ. The Chilton guide for CJs 76-86 states that the transfer case and
>transmission on CJs are linked and share fluids, although it is
>necessary to drain both reservoirs separately when doing a change to
>ensure everything drains completely. Whatever fluid you select, you
>better be sure you use the same thing on both and change it all at
>once!
The model is irrelevent, as is the manual for that model, since he stated he
has a sDynatrac Dana 60 and NVG4500 tranny, neither of which were ever
available from factory in a Jeep. More than likely he has a Dana 30 front and
Dynatrac 60 rear...if he had an AMC20 rear it's highly unlikely he would put a
stronger axle in front. But not impossible.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-27-2003, 05:33 PM
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Re: which wt fluids to use?
In article <b102b6e4.0310271154.30013709@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
>Not sure which vehicle you have, but if it's an AMC axle it's likely a
>CJ. The Chilton guide for CJs 76-86 states that the transfer case and
>transmission on CJs are linked and share fluids, although it is
>necessary to drain both reservoirs separately when doing a change to
>ensure everything drains completely. Whatever fluid you select, you
>better be sure you use the same thing on both and change it all at
>once!
The model is irrelevent, as is the manual for that model, since he stated he
has a sDynatrac Dana 60 and NVG4500 tranny, neither of which were ever
available from factory in a Jeep. More than likely he has a Dana 30 front and
Dynatrac 60 rear...if he had an AMC20 rear it's highly unlikely he would put a
stronger axle in front. But not impossible.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>
>Not sure which vehicle you have, but if it's an AMC axle it's likely a
>CJ. The Chilton guide for CJs 76-86 states that the transfer case and
>transmission on CJs are linked and share fluids, although it is
>necessary to drain both reservoirs separately when doing a change to
>ensure everything drains completely. Whatever fluid you select, you
>better be sure you use the same thing on both and change it all at
>once!
The model is irrelevent, as is the manual for that model, since he stated he
has a sDynatrac Dana 60 and NVG4500 tranny, neither of which were ever
available from factory in a Jeep. More than likely he has a Dana 30 front and
Dynatrac 60 rear...if he had an AMC20 rear it's highly unlikely he would put a
stronger axle in front. But not impossible.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-27-2003, 07:30 PM
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Re: which wt fluids to use?
Hi Matt,
The Real Big Jeeps used the Dana 60, this page taken form the 72
Factory Service Manual: http://----------.com/72jeepFSM10-9.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The model is irrelevent, as is the manual for that model, since he stated he
> has a sDynatrac Dana 60 and NVG4500 tranny, neither of which were ever
> available from factory in a Jeep. More than likely he has a Dana 30 front and
> Dynatrac 60 rear...if he had an AMC20 rear it's highly unlikely he would put a
> stronger axle in front. But not impossible.
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
The Real Big Jeeps used the Dana 60, this page taken form the 72
Factory Service Manual: http://----------.com/72jeepFSM10-9.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The model is irrelevent, as is the manual for that model, since he stated he
> has a sDynatrac Dana 60 and NVG4500 tranny, neither of which were ever
> available from factory in a Jeep. More than likely he has a Dana 30 front and
> Dynatrac 60 rear...if he had an AMC20 rear it's highly unlikely he would put a
> stronger axle in front. But not impossible.
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-27-2003, 07:30 PM
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Re: which wt fluids to use?
Hi Matt,
The Real Big Jeeps used the Dana 60, this page taken form the 72
Factory Service Manual: http://----------.com/72jeepFSM10-9.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The model is irrelevent, as is the manual for that model, since he stated he
> has a sDynatrac Dana 60 and NVG4500 tranny, neither of which were ever
> available from factory in a Jeep. More than likely he has a Dana 30 front and
> Dynatrac 60 rear...if he had an AMC20 rear it's highly unlikely he would put a
> stronger axle in front. But not impossible.
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
The Real Big Jeeps used the Dana 60, this page taken form the 72
Factory Service Manual: http://----------.com/72jeepFSM10-9.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The model is irrelevent, as is the manual for that model, since he stated he
> has a sDynatrac Dana 60 and NVG4500 tranny, neither of which were ever
> available from factory in a Jeep. More than likely he has a Dana 30 front and
> Dynatrac 60 rear...if he had an AMC20 rear it's highly unlikely he would put a
> stronger axle in front. But not impossible.
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-27-2003, 07:30 PM
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Re: which wt fluids to use?
Hi Matt,
The Real Big Jeeps used the Dana 60, this page taken form the 72
Factory Service Manual: http://----------.com/72jeepFSM10-9.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The model is irrelevent, as is the manual for that model, since he stated he
> has a sDynatrac Dana 60 and NVG4500 tranny, neither of which were ever
> available from factory in a Jeep. More than likely he has a Dana 30 front and
> Dynatrac 60 rear...if he had an AMC20 rear it's highly unlikely he would put a
> stronger axle in front. But not impossible.
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
The Real Big Jeeps used the Dana 60, this page taken form the 72
Factory Service Manual: http://----------.com/72jeepFSM10-9.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The model is irrelevent, as is the manual for that model, since he stated he
> has a sDynatrac Dana 60 and NVG4500 tranny, neither of which were ever
> available from factory in a Jeep. More than likely he has a Dana 30 front and
> Dynatrac 60 rear...if he had an AMC20 rear it's highly unlikely he would put a
> stronger axle in front. But not impossible.
>
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-27-2003, 07:52 PM
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Re: which wt fluids to use?
In article <3F9DB88B.582B6222@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> The Real Big Jeeps used the Dana 60, this page taken form the 72
>Factory Service Manual: http://----------.com/72jeepFSM10-9.pdf
But they didn't source their axles from Dynatrac, since ABS wasn't around in
'72 except possibly in jet planes, (wink) and the front axle would probably
have been a 44 at least.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> The Real Big Jeeps used the Dana 60, this page taken form the 72
>Factory Service Manual: http://----------.com/72jeepFSM10-9.pdf
But they didn't source their axles from Dynatrac, since ABS wasn't around in
'72 except possibly in jet planes, (wink) and the front axle would probably
have been a 44 at least.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-27-2003, 07:52 PM
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Re: which wt fluids to use?
In article <3F9DB88B.582B6222@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> The Real Big Jeeps used the Dana 60, this page taken form the 72
>Factory Service Manual: http://----------.com/72jeepFSM10-9.pdf
But they didn't source their axles from Dynatrac, since ABS wasn't around in
'72 except possibly in jet planes, (wink) and the front axle would probably
have been a 44 at least.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> The Real Big Jeeps used the Dana 60, this page taken form the 72
>Factory Service Manual: http://----------.com/72jeepFSM10-9.pdf
But they didn't source their axles from Dynatrac, since ABS wasn't around in
'72 except possibly in jet planes, (wink) and the front axle would probably
have been a 44 at least.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-27-2003, 07:52 PM
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Re: which wt fluids to use?
In article <3F9DB88B.582B6222@***.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> The Real Big Jeeps used the Dana 60, this page taken form the 72
>Factory Service Manual: http://----------.com/72jeepFSM10-9.pdf
But they didn't source their axles from Dynatrac, since ABS wasn't around in
'72 except possibly in jet planes, (wink) and the front axle would probably
have been a 44 at least.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
III <----------@***.net> writes:
> The Real Big Jeeps used the Dana 60, this page taken form the 72
>Factory Service Manual: http://----------.com/72jeepFSM10-9.pdf
But they didn't source their axles from Dynatrac, since ABS wasn't around in
'72 except possibly in jet planes, (wink) and the front axle would probably
have been a 44 at least.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-28-2003, 09:22 AM
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Re: which wt fluids to use?
Your Chilton guide is just plain wrong Joshua.
The T-case and tranny do not share anything, let alone fluids.
I have an 86 and my tranny and t-case need different fluids.
They have an air gap in-between them and each has their own seal.
They also only put a high water vent on the t-case. There is no high
water vent on the tranny so you can fill the tranny full of water and
only have to change it's fluids, the t-case will still be fine.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> Not sure which vehicle you have, but if it's an AMC axle it's likely a
> CJ. The Chilton guide for CJs 76-86 states that the transfer case and
> transmission on CJs are linked and share fluids, although it is
> necessary to drain both reservoirs separately when doing a change to
> ensure everything drains completely. Whatever fluid you select, you
> better be sure you use the same thing on both and change it all at
> once!
>
> mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) wrote in message news:<20031026221701.21232.00001594@mb-m13.aol.com>...
> > In article <vpjm1lemmvtj18@corp.supernews.com>, "Eric Jermain"
> > <eric22@peoplepc.com> writes:
> >
> > >* Dynatrac Dana 60 axle - differential fluid
> > >* AMC 30 axle - diff fluid
> >
> > Do you mean AMC 20 or Dana 30? Either way, standard 80W90 should work OK
> >
> > >* New Venture 4500 transmission - trans fluid
> >
> > Pennzoil Syncromesh. The NVG trannies use a very specific type of fluid. If you
> > want to get reamed you can go to a GM or Chrysler dealer for it.
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
The T-case and tranny do not share anything, let alone fluids.
I have an 86 and my tranny and t-case need different fluids.
They have an air gap in-between them and each has their own seal.
They also only put a high water vent on the t-case. There is no high
water vent on the tranny so you can fill the tranny full of water and
only have to change it's fluids, the t-case will still be fine.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> Not sure which vehicle you have, but if it's an AMC axle it's likely a
> CJ. The Chilton guide for CJs 76-86 states that the transfer case and
> transmission on CJs are linked and share fluids, although it is
> necessary to drain both reservoirs separately when doing a change to
> ensure everything drains completely. Whatever fluid you select, you
> better be sure you use the same thing on both and change it all at
> once!
>
> mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt Macchiarolo) wrote in message news:<20031026221701.21232.00001594@mb-m13.aol.com>...
> > In article <vpjm1lemmvtj18@corp.supernews.com>, "Eric Jermain"
> > <eric22@peoplepc.com> writes:
> >
> > >* Dynatrac Dana 60 axle - differential fluid
> > >* AMC 30 axle - diff fluid
> >
> > Do you mean AMC 20 or Dana 30? Either way, standard 80W90 should work OK
> >
> > >* New Venture 4500 transmission - trans fluid
> >
> > Pennzoil Syncromesh. The NVG trannies use a very specific type of fluid. If you
> > want to get reamed you can go to a GM or Chrysler dealer for it.
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
