Re: Wrangler YJ ignition switch problem
 

lsaugier@hilcorp.com wrote:
> I don't have any evidence that there are any wires burnt out. Given
> that I've replaced the firewall solenoid, battery, and starter, is
> there anything else besides an ignition switch that would cause the
> starter motor to crank uncontrollably? Is it possible I wired the new
> firewall solenoid wrong and that's what's causing it? That seems
> unlikely to me.
>
> The ignition switch is pretty difficult to get at - I'm still not sure
> I'm even able to see it. Is there anything in particular I should
> look for (many wires, few wires, blue clip, white clip, etc) to know
> that I've definitely found the ignition switch? I see the ignition
> rod... thingy... disappear down in there somewhere but can't see where
> it goes.
>

The switch is at the bottom end of the rod.

As I mentioned, there are two green wires on that firewall
relay/solenoid unit that are easy to mix then it just starts with
battery power.

Try swapping them.

Mike

Re: Wrangler YJ ignition switch problem
 

lsaugier@hilcorp.com wrote:
> I don't have any evidence that there are any wires burnt out. Given
> that I've replaced the firewall solenoid, battery, and starter, is
> there anything else besides an ignition switch that would cause the
> starter motor to crank uncontrollably? Is it possible I wired the new
> firewall solenoid wrong and that's what's causing it? That seems
> unlikely to me.
>
> The ignition switch is pretty difficult to get at - I'm still not sure
> I'm even able to see it. Is there anything in particular I should
> look for (many wires, few wires, blue clip, white clip, etc) to know
> that I've definitely found the ignition switch? I see the ignition
> rod... thingy... disappear down in there somewhere but can't see where
> it goes.
>

The switch is at the bottom end of the rod.

As I mentioned, there are two green wires on that firewall
relay/solenoid unit that are easy to mix then it just starts with
battery power.

Try swapping them.

Mike

Re: Wrangler YJ ignition switch problem
 

lsaugier@hilcorp.com wrote:
> I don't have any evidence that there are any wires burnt out. Given
> that I've replaced the firewall solenoid, battery, and starter, is
> there anything else besides an ignition switch that would cause the
> starter motor to crank uncontrollably? Is it possible I wired the new
> firewall solenoid wrong and that's what's causing it? That seems
> unlikely to me.
>
> The ignition switch is pretty difficult to get at - I'm still not sure
> I'm even able to see it. Is there anything in particular I should
> look for (many wires, few wires, blue clip, white clip, etc) to know
> that I've definitely found the ignition switch? I see the ignition
> rod... thingy... disappear down in there somewhere but can't see where
> it goes.
>

The switch is at the bottom end of the rod.

As I mentioned, there are two green wires on that firewall
relay/solenoid unit that are easy to mix then it just starts with
battery power.

Try swapping them.

Mike

Re: Wrangler YJ ignition switch problem
 

On May 18, 7:04 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> lsaug...@hilcorp.com wrote:
> > I don't have any evidence that there are any wires burnt out. Given
> > that I've replaced the firewall solenoid, battery, and starter, is
> > there anything else besides an ignition switch that would cause the
> > starter motor to crank uncontrollably? Is it possible I wired the new
> > firewall solenoid wrong and that's what's causing it? That seems
> > unlikely to me.
>
> > The ignition switch is pretty difficult to get at - I'm still not sure
> > I'm even able to see it. Is there anything in particular I should
> > look for (many wires, few wires, blue clip, white clip, etc) to know
> > that I've definitely found the ignition switch? I see the ignition
> > rod... thingy... disappear down in there somewhere but can't see where
> > it goes.
>
> The switch is at the bottom end of the rod.
>
> As I mentioned, there are two green wires on that firewall
> relay/solenoid unit that are easy to mix then it just starts with
> battery power.
>
> Try swapping them.
>
> Mike

Check the negative ground cable. Battery to block. I had one go bad
and it did the same thing.

Greg

Re: Wrangler YJ ignition switch problem
 

On May 18, 7:04 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> lsaug...@hilcorp.com wrote:
> > I don't have any evidence that there are any wires burnt out. Given
> > that I've replaced the firewall solenoid, battery, and starter, is
> > there anything else besides an ignition switch that would cause the
> > starter motor to crank uncontrollably? Is it possible I wired the new
> > firewall solenoid wrong and that's what's causing it? That seems
> > unlikely to me.
>
> > The ignition switch is pretty difficult to get at - I'm still not sure
> > I'm even able to see it. Is there anything in particular I should
> > look for (many wires, few wires, blue clip, white clip, etc) to know
> > that I've definitely found the ignition switch? I see the ignition
> > rod... thingy... disappear down in there somewhere but can't see where
> > it goes.
>
> The switch is at the bottom end of the rod.
>
> As I mentioned, there are two green wires on that firewall
> relay/solenoid unit that are easy to mix then it just starts with
> battery power.
>
> Try swapping them.
>
> Mike

Check the negative ground cable. Battery to block. I had one go bad
and it did the same thing.

Greg

Re: Wrangler YJ ignition switch problem
 

On May 18, 7:04 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> lsaug...@hilcorp.com wrote:
> > I don't have any evidence that there are any wires burnt out. Given
> > that I've replaced the firewall solenoid, battery, and starter, is
> > there anything else besides an ignition switch that would cause the
> > starter motor to crank uncontrollably? Is it possible I wired the new
> > firewall solenoid wrong and that's what's causing it? That seems
> > unlikely to me.
>
> > The ignition switch is pretty difficult to get at - I'm still not sure
> > I'm even able to see it. Is there anything in particular I should
> > look for (many wires, few wires, blue clip, white clip, etc) to know
> > that I've definitely found the ignition switch? I see the ignition
> > rod... thingy... disappear down in there somewhere but can't see where
> > it goes.
>
> The switch is at the bottom end of the rod.
>
> As I mentioned, there are two green wires on that firewall
> relay/solenoid unit that are easy to mix then it just starts with
> battery power.
>
> Try swapping them.
>
> Mike

Check the negative ground cable. Battery to block. I had one go bad
and it did the same thing.

Greg

Re: Wrangler YJ ignition switch problem
 

On May 18, 7:04 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> lsaug...@hilcorp.com wrote:
> > I don't have any evidence that there are any wires burnt out. Given
> > that I've replaced the firewall solenoid, battery, and starter, is
> > there anything else besides an ignition switch that would cause the
> > starter motor to crank uncontrollably? Is it possible I wired the new
> > firewall solenoid wrong and that's what's causing it? That seems
> > unlikely to me.
>
> > The ignition switch is pretty difficult to get at - I'm still not sure
> > I'm even able to see it. Is there anything in particular I should
> > look for (many wires, few wires, blue clip, white clip, etc) to know
> > that I've definitely found the ignition switch? I see the ignition
> > rod... thingy... disappear down in there somewhere but can't see where
> > it goes.
>
> The switch is at the bottom end of the rod.
>
> As I mentioned, there are two green wires on that firewall
> relay/solenoid unit that are easy to mix then it just starts with
> battery power.
>
> Try swapping them.
>
> Mike

Check the negative ground cable. Battery to block. I had one go bad
and it did the same thing.

Greg

Re: Wrangler YJ ignition switch problem
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:464e3ec8$0$1964$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> lsaugier@hilcorp.com wrote:
>> I don't have any evidence that there are any wires burnt out. Given
>> that I've replaced the firewall solenoid, battery, and starter, is
>> there anything else besides an ignition switch that would cause the
>> starter motor to crank uncontrollably? Is it possible I wired the new
>> firewall solenoid wrong and that's what's causing it? That seems
>> unlikely to me.
>>
>> The ignition switch is pretty difficult to get at - I'm still not sure
>> I'm even able to see it. Is there anything in particular I should
>> look for (many wires, few wires, blue clip, white clip, etc) to know
>> that I've definitely found the ignition switch? I see the ignition
>> rod... thingy... disappear down in there somewhere but can't see where
>> it goes.
>>
>
> The switch is at the bottom end of the rod.
>
> As I mentioned, there are two green wires on that firewall relay/solenoid
> unit that are easy to mix then it just starts with battery power.
>
> Try swapping them.



WAIT -- STOP

Mike,
You are going at this from the direction that he screwed up on his
replacement, but his problem began before he did anything and continued
afterward. This tells me that he probably has done nothing wrong, therefore
his Jeep must be broken.



I think his trouble is that the Ignition Lock Set Linkage has broken, and is
holding the Ignition Switch to the START position. As soon as he connects
the battery terminal, the starter motor begins to crank, even if the key is
currently set to OFF.

Re: Wrangler YJ ignition switch problem
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:464e3ec8$0$1964$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> lsaugier@hilcorp.com wrote:
>> I don't have any evidence that there are any wires burnt out. Given
>> that I've replaced the firewall solenoid, battery, and starter, is
>> there anything else besides an ignition switch that would cause the
>> starter motor to crank uncontrollably? Is it possible I wired the new
>> firewall solenoid wrong and that's what's causing it? That seems
>> unlikely to me.
>>
>> The ignition switch is pretty difficult to get at - I'm still not sure
>> I'm even able to see it. Is there anything in particular I should
>> look for (many wires, few wires, blue clip, white clip, etc) to know
>> that I've definitely found the ignition switch? I see the ignition
>> rod... thingy... disappear down in there somewhere but can't see where
>> it goes.
>>
>
> The switch is at the bottom end of the rod.
>
> As I mentioned, there are two green wires on that firewall relay/solenoid
> unit that are easy to mix then it just starts with battery power.
>
> Try swapping them.



WAIT -- STOP

Mike,
You are going at this from the direction that he screwed up on his
replacement, but his problem began before he did anything and continued
afterward. This tells me that he probably has done nothing wrong, therefore
his Jeep must be broken.



I think his trouble is that the Ignition Lock Set Linkage has broken, and is
holding the Ignition Switch to the START position. As soon as he connects
the battery terminal, the starter motor begins to crank, even if the key is
currently set to OFF.

Re: Wrangler YJ ignition switch problem
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:464e3ec8$0$1964$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> lsaugier@hilcorp.com wrote:
>> I don't have any evidence that there are any wires burnt out. Given
>> that I've replaced the firewall solenoid, battery, and starter, is
>> there anything else besides an ignition switch that would cause the
>> starter motor to crank uncontrollably? Is it possible I wired the new
>> firewall solenoid wrong and that's what's causing it? That seems
>> unlikely to me.
>>
>> The ignition switch is pretty difficult to get at - I'm still not sure
>> I'm even able to see it. Is there anything in particular I should
>> look for (many wires, few wires, blue clip, white clip, etc) to know
>> that I've definitely found the ignition switch? I see the ignition
>> rod... thingy... disappear down in there somewhere but can't see where
>> it goes.
>>
>
> The switch is at the bottom end of the rod.
>
> As I mentioned, there are two green wires on that firewall relay/solenoid
> unit that are easy to mix then it just starts with battery power.
>
> Try swapping them.



WAIT -- STOP

Mike,
You are going at this from the direction that he screwed up on his
replacement, but his problem began before he did anything and continued
afterward. This tells me that he probably has done nothing wrong, therefore
his Jeep must be broken.



I think his trouble is that the Ignition Lock Set Linkage has broken, and is
holding the Ignition Switch to the START position. As soon as he connects
the battery terminal, the starter motor begins to crank, even if the key is
currently set to OFF.