Wrangler - What to buy?
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
> (13K-16K pounds per axle)
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
>> artics.
>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@***.net...
>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at
>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred
>> weight
>>> > = 112 lb)
>>> >
>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>
>
>
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
> (13K-16K pounds per axle)
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
>> artics.
>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@***.net...
>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at
>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred
>> weight
>>> > = 112 lb)
>>> >
>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET...
> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
> (13K-16K pounds per axle)
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
>> artics.
>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@***.net...
>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at
>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred
>> weight
>>> > = 112 lb)
>>> >
>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>
>
>
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET...
> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
> (13K-16K pounds per axle)
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
>> artics.
>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@***.net...
>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at
>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred
>> weight
>>> > = 112 lb)
>>> >
>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
And guess who's paying. Arizona Charged me seventy five bucks each
trip to go the hundred miles from the California border to Phoenix.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matthew Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
trip to go the hundred miles from the California border to Phoenix.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matthew Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
And guess who's paying. Arizona Charged me seventy five bucks each
trip to go the hundred miles from the California border to Phoenix.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matthew Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
trip to go the hundred miles from the California border to Phoenix.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matthew Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
And guess who's paying. Arizona Charged me seventy five bucks each
trip to go the hundred miles from the California border to Phoenix.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matthew Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
trip to go the hundred miles from the California border to Phoenix.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matthew Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
MDOT says only about 5% (1 in 20) trucks in Michigan are running at that
weight.
Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced
to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by
12-15 thousand.
And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing
15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund
"Matthew Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8MCdnWl1K7dauRPenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET...
>> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
>> (13K-16K pounds per axle)
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
>>> artics.
>>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
>>>
>>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@***.net...
>>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
>>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at
>>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred
>>> weight
>>>> > = 112 lb)
>>>> >
>>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
weight.
Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced
to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by
12-15 thousand.
And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing
15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund
"Matthew Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8MCdnWl1K7dauRPenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET...
>> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
>> (13K-16K pounds per axle)
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
>>> artics.
>>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
>>>
>>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@***.net...
>>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
>>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at
>>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred
>>> weight
>>>> > = 112 lb)
>>>> >
>>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
MDOT says only about 5% (1 in 20) trucks in Michigan are running at that
weight.
Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced
to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by
12-15 thousand.
And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing
15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund
"Matthew Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8MCdnWl1K7dauRPenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET...
>> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
>> (13K-16K pounds per axle)
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
>>> artics.
>>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
>>>
>>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@***.net...
>>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
>>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at
>>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred
>>> weight
>>>> > = 112 lb)
>>>> >
>>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
weight.
Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced
to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by
12-15 thousand.
And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing
15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund
"Matthew Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8MCdnWl1K7dauRPenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET...
>> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
>> (13K-16K pounds per axle)
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
>>> artics.
>>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
>>>
>>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@***.net...
>>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
>>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at
>>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred
>>> weight
>>>> > = 112 lb)
>>>> >
>>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
MDOT says only about 5% (1 in 20) trucks in Michigan are running at that
weight.
Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced
to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by
12-15 thousand.
And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing
15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund
"Matthew Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8MCdnWl1K7dauRPenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET...
>> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
>> (13K-16K pounds per axle)
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
>>> artics.
>>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
>>>
>>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@***.net...
>>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
>>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at
>>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred
>>> weight
>>>> > = 112 lb)
>>>> >
>>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
weight.
Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced
to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by
12-15 thousand.
And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing
15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund
"Matthew Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:8MCdnWl1K7dauRPenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET...
>> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle
>> (13K-16K pounds per axle)
>>
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
>>> artics.
>>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ?
>>>
>>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@***.net...
>>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
>>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at
>>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred
>>> weight
>>>> > = 112 lb)
>>>> >
>>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Knowing how much I paid in taxes while driving, I'll never believe
that.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> MDOT says only about 5% (1 in 20) trucks in Michigan are running at that
> weight.
>
> Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced
> to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by
> 12-15 thousand.
>
> And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing
> 15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund
that.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> MDOT says only about 5% (1 in 20) trucks in Michigan are running at that
> weight.
>
> Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced
> to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by
> 12-15 thousand.
>
> And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing
> 15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund
Guest
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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Knowing how much I paid in taxes while driving, I'll never believe
that.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> MDOT says only about 5% (1 in 20) trucks in Michigan are running at that
> weight.
>
> Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced
> to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by
> 12-15 thousand.
>
> And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing
> 15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund
that.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> MDOT says only about 5% (1 in 20) trucks in Michigan are running at that
> weight.
>
> Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced
> to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by
> 12-15 thousand.
>
> And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing
> 15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund
