Wrangler Question
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Re: Wrangler Question
In message <3FC24801.3070509@erols.com>, "Simon Juncal" wrote:
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>jerry wrote:
>> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to start,
>> and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of tailpipe. Could
>> this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
>
>How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
>burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
>became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
Black smoke ain't oil, junior.
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>Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
>want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
>diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
>problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
>light to come on).
>
>Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
>spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
>vehicle).
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>
>jerry wrote:
>> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to start,
>> and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of tailpipe. Could
>> this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
>
>How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
>burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
>became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
Black smoke ain't oil, junior.
>
>Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
>want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
>diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
>problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
>light to come on).
>
>Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
>spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
>vehicle).
#22
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Re: Wrangler Question
In message <3FC24801.3070509@erols.com>, "Simon Juncal" wrote:
>
>
>jerry wrote:
>> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to start,
>> and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of tailpipe. Could
>> this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
>
>How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
>burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
>became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
Black smoke ain't oil, junior.
>
>Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
>want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
>diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
>problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
>light to come on).
>
>Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
>spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
>vehicle).
>
>
>jerry wrote:
>> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to start,
>> and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of tailpipe. Could
>> this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
>
>How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
>burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
>became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
Black smoke ain't oil, junior.
>
>Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
>want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
>diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
>problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
>light to come on).
>
>Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
>spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
>vehicle).
#23
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Re: Wrangler Question
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Black smoke is always too rich, incomplete fuel burn. Of course,
> after many times of the cylinders being washed clean of lubricate it
> will become blue smoke.
I stand corrected, thankfully I've never had a car that burned oil.
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Re: Wrangler Question
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Black smoke is always too rich, incomplete fuel burn. Of course,
> after many times of the cylinders being washed clean of lubricate it
> will become blue smoke.
I stand corrected, thankfully I've never had a car that burned oil.
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Re: Wrangler Question
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Black smoke is always too rich, incomplete fuel burn. Of course,
> after many times of the cylinders being washed clean of lubricate it
> will become blue smoke.
I stand corrected, thankfully I've never had a car that burned oil.
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Re: Wrangler Question
In message <3FC2EA76.4050204@erols.com>, "Simon Juncal" wrote:
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>bllsht wrote:
> > Black smoke ain't oil, junior.
>
>Yes as Bill noted about 14 hours before you chimed in. BTW Have you ever
>contributed anything in here without coming across as a complete -------?
LOL.
Probably once or twice. If it starts happening too often, you be sure to set me
straight, eh junior?
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>bllsht wrote:
> > Black smoke ain't oil, junior.
>
>Yes as Bill noted about 14 hours before you chimed in. BTW Have you ever
>contributed anything in here without coming across as a complete -------?
LOL.
Probably once or twice. If it starts happening too often, you be sure to set me
straight, eh junior?
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Re: Wrangler Question
In message <3FC2EA76.4050204@erols.com>, "Simon Juncal" wrote:
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>
>bllsht wrote:
> > Black smoke ain't oil, junior.
>
>Yes as Bill noted about 14 hours before you chimed in. BTW Have you ever
>contributed anything in here without coming across as a complete -------?
LOL.
Probably once or twice. If it starts happening too often, you be sure to set me
straight, eh junior?
>
>
>bllsht wrote:
> > Black smoke ain't oil, junior.
>
>Yes as Bill noted about 14 hours before you chimed in. BTW Have you ever
>contributed anything in here without coming across as a complete -------?
LOL.
Probably once or twice. If it starts happening too often, you be sure to set me
straight, eh junior?