Wrangler Question
11-23-2003, 10:46 PM
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Re: Wrangler Question
On 23 Nov 2003 04:47 PM, jerry posted the following:
> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to
> start, and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of
> tailpipe. Could this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
That has nothing to do with the octane of your fuel. Take it to the
dealer and make them fix it.
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> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to
> start, and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of
> tailpipe. Could this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
That has nothing to do with the octane of your fuel. Take it to the
dealer and make them fix it.
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11-23-2003, 10:46 PM
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Re: Wrangler Question
On 23 Nov 2003 04:47 PM, jerry posted the following:
> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to
> start, and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of
> tailpipe. Could this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
That has nothing to do with the octane of your fuel. Take it to the
dealer and make them fix it.
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> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to
> start, and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of
> tailpipe. Could this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
That has nothing to do with the octane of your fuel. Take it to the
dealer and make them fix it.
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11-23-2003, 10:46 PM
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Re: Wrangler Question
On 23 Nov 2003 04:47 PM, jerry posted the following:
> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to
> start, and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of
> tailpipe. Could this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
That has nothing to do with the octane of your fuel. Take it to the
dealer and make them fix it.
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> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to
> start, and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of
> tailpipe. Could this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
That has nothing to do with the octane of your fuel. Take it to the
dealer and make them fix it.
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11-24-2003, 01:03 PM
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Re: Wrangler Question
jerry wrote:
> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to start,
> and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of tailpipe. Could
> this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
light to come on).
Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
vehicle).
11-24-2003, 01:03 PM
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Re: Wrangler Question
jerry wrote:
> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to start,
> and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of tailpipe. Could
> this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
light to come on).
Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
vehicle).
11-24-2003, 01:03 PM
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Re: Wrangler Question
jerry wrote:
> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to start,
> and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of tailpipe. Could
> this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
light to come on).
Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
vehicle).
11-24-2003, 01:12 PM
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Re: Wrangler Question
Black smoke is always too rich, incomplete fuel burn. Of course,
after many times of the cylinders being washed clean of lubricate it
will become blue smoke.
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Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
> burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
> became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
>
> Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
> want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
> diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
> problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
> light to come on).
>
> Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
> spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
> vehicle).
after many times of the cylinders being washed clean of lubricate it
will become blue smoke.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
> burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
> became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
>
> Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
> want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
> diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
> problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
> light to come on).
>
> Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
> spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
> vehicle).
11-24-2003, 01:12 PM
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Re: Wrangler Question
Black smoke is always too rich, incomplete fuel burn. Of course,
after many times of the cylinders being washed clean of lubricate it
will become blue smoke.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
> burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
> became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
>
> Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
> want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
> diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
> problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
> light to come on).
>
> Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
> spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
> vehicle).
after many times of the cylinders being washed clean of lubricate it
will become blue smoke.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
> burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
> became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
>
> Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
> want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
> diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
> problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
> light to come on).
>
> Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
> spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
> vehicle).
11-24-2003, 01:12 PM
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Re: Wrangler Question
Black smoke is always too rich, incomplete fuel burn. Of course,
after many times of the cylinders being washed clean of lubricate it
will become blue smoke.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
> burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
> became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
>
> Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
> want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
> diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
> problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
> light to come on).
>
> Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
> spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
> vehicle).
after many times of the cylinders being washed clean of lubricate it
will become blue smoke.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
> burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
> became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
>
> Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
> want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
> diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
> problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
> light to come on).
>
> Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
> spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
> vehicle).
11-24-2003, 11:12 PM
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Re: Wrangler Question
In message <3FC24801.3070509@erols.com>, "Simon Juncal" wrote:
>
>
>jerry wrote:
>> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to start,
>> and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of tailpipe. Could
>> this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
>
>How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
>burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
>became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
Black smoke ain't oil, junior.
>
>Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
>want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
>diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
>problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
>light to come on).
>
>Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
>spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
>vehicle).
>
>
>jerry wrote:
>> Have a 2004 Wrangler X, noticed somtimes it takes 3 or 4 cranks to start,
>> and when it starts there is a big puff of black smoke out of tailpipe. Could
>> this be it is running to rich or the 87 octane gas? or????????
>
>How often do you have to put another Quart of oil in? My friends JGW
>burns oil very bad, it started as a puff of black smoke at start up, and
>became an extended amount of black smoke for minutes after starting.
Black smoke ain't oil, junior.
>
>Don't let that thing get out of warrantee still doing that. You may even
>want to spring for an hour of labor (what most shops charge for
>diagnostics) and get a third party non-dealer mechanic to diagnose the
>problem. Get him to pull the codes (not all codes cause the check engine
>light to come on).
>
>Be weary of the dealer fixing the symptom (for example, changing fouled
>spark plugs but not what was causing them to foul so soon on a brand new
>vehicle).