wrangler question
08-24-2003, 06:34 PM
#31
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Re: wrangler question
In article <3f49189e$0$43850$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net>, "Boots Crofoot"
<boots@dcwis.com> writes:
>Thanks for all the info. Now, one more question. Who makes
>the 4.0 V6 and how is the mileage?
I think Ford makes a 4.0 V6, but that's irrelevent, since the 4.0 straight six
in the Wrangler is made by Daimler Chrysler, based on the AMC six.
Expect 14-18 mpg. The Wrangler has the aerodynamics of a barn door. The 4-cyl
won't be much better.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<boots@dcwis.com> writes:
>Thanks for all the info. Now, one more question. Who makes
>the 4.0 V6 and how is the mileage?
I think Ford makes a 4.0 V6, but that's irrelevent, since the 4.0 straight six
in the Wrangler is made by Daimler Chrysler, based on the AMC six.
Expect 14-18 mpg. The Wrangler has the aerodynamics of a barn door. The 4-cyl
won't be much better.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
08-24-2003, 10:42 PM
#32
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Re: wrangler question
Just wanted to let you know the reason the doors blow open is b/c of the air
pressure you are adding with the blower on high. Also, for defrosting, esp.
with fogging, keep the blower on the slower speeds. Here's why: the longer
the air is in contact with the heater core the hotter it gets, SO, the
faster the air is moving (higher blower setting) the less heat is
transfered, which equals colder air.
Try it, you'll like it.
Joe
(jpribe at nc.rr.com)
"Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Boots Crofoot wrote:
>
> > Am thinking about getting one with the cloth top. Would like
> > to know how warn they are in the winter? Also understand
> > they have plastic side windows. How to you scrape the ice
> > off of them? Thanks
>
> My '94 Wrangler is perfectly warm in the winter. As a matter of fact,
> sometimes I have passengers in my car that turn the heat down! I live in
> Cincinnati, and we have a real mix in the winter and only see really cold
> weather (less than 10 degrees) for maybe two weeks or so, if at all.
> Sometimes we get serious artic temps (as history has recorded in the
> infamous Bengals' "Freezer Bowl" that had wind chills below -50 degrees)
> and some years we never get below the lower 20's.
>
> The only problem I have with my Wrangler is highway speeds with wind gusts
> from trucks and stuff will cause your soft upper doors to pull away from
> its seal and allow blasts of cold air in. Many times on the highway, I'll
> have to run my heater full blast to compensate for it.
>
> Those that claim CJ's and Wranglers are cold in the winter with soft tops
> must have never owned one...
>
pressure you are adding with the blower on high. Also, for defrosting, esp.
with fogging, keep the blower on the slower speeds. Here's why: the longer
the air is in contact with the heater core the hotter it gets, SO, the
faster the air is moving (higher blower setting) the less heat is
transfered, which equals colder air.
Try it, you'll like it.
Joe
(jpribe at nc.rr.com)
"Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:3f48c038$0$12616$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> Boots Crofoot wrote:
>
> > Am thinking about getting one with the cloth top. Would like
> > to know how warn they are in the winter? Also understand
> > they have plastic side windows. How to you scrape the ice
> > off of them? Thanks
>
> My '94 Wrangler is perfectly warm in the winter. As a matter of fact,
> sometimes I have passengers in my car that turn the heat down! I live in
> Cincinnati, and we have a real mix in the winter and only see really cold
> weather (less than 10 degrees) for maybe two weeks or so, if at all.
> Sometimes we get serious artic temps (as history has recorded in the
> infamous Bengals' "Freezer Bowl" that had wind chills below -50 degrees)
> and some years we never get below the lower 20's.
>
> The only problem I have with my Wrangler is highway speeds with wind gusts
> from trucks and stuff will cause your soft upper doors to pull away from
> its seal and allow blasts of cold air in. Many times on the highway, I'll
> have to run my heater full blast to compensate for it.
>
> Those that claim CJ's and Wranglers are cold in the winter with soft tops
> must have never owned one...
>
08-24-2003, 10:42 PM
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Re: wrangler question
Just wanted to let you know the reason the doors blow open is b/c of the air
pressure you are adding with the blower on high. Also, for defrosting, esp.
with fogging, keep the blower on the slower speeds. Here's why: the longer
the air is in contact with the heater core the hotter it gets, SO, the
faster the air is moving (higher blower setting) the less heat is
transfered, which equals colder air.
Try it, you'll like it.
Joe
(jpribe at nc.rr.com)
"Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:3f48c038$0$12616$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> Boots Crofoot wrote:
>
> > Am thinking about getting one with the cloth top. Would like
> > to know how warn they are in the winter? Also understand
> > they have plastic side windows. How to you scrape the ice
> > off of them? Thanks
>
> My '94 Wrangler is perfectly warm in the winter. As a matter of fact,
> sometimes I have passengers in my car that turn the heat down! I live in
> Cincinnati, and we have a real mix in the winter and only see really cold
> weather (less than 10 degrees) for maybe two weeks or so, if at all.
> Sometimes we get serious artic temps (as history has recorded in the
> infamous Bengals' "Freezer Bowl" that had wind chills below -50 degrees)
> and some years we never get below the lower 20's.
>
> The only problem I have with my Wrangler is highway speeds with wind gusts
> from trucks and stuff will cause your soft upper doors to pull away from
> its seal and allow blasts of cold air in. Many times on the highway, I'll
> have to run my heater full blast to compensate for it.
>
> Those that claim CJ's and Wranglers are cold in the winter with soft tops
> must have never owned one...
>
pressure you are adding with the blower on high. Also, for defrosting, esp.
with fogging, keep the blower on the slower speeds. Here's why: the longer
the air is in contact with the heater core the hotter it gets, SO, the
faster the air is moving (higher blower setting) the less heat is
transfered, which equals colder air.
Try it, you'll like it.
Joe
(jpribe at nc.rr.com)
"Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:3f48c038$0$12616$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> Boots Crofoot wrote:
>
> > Am thinking about getting one with the cloth top. Would like
> > to know how warn they are in the winter? Also understand
> > they have plastic side windows. How to you scrape the ice
> > off of them? Thanks
>
> My '94 Wrangler is perfectly warm in the winter. As a matter of fact,
> sometimes I have passengers in my car that turn the heat down! I live in
> Cincinnati, and we have a real mix in the winter and only see really cold
> weather (less than 10 degrees) for maybe two weeks or so, if at all.
> Sometimes we get serious artic temps (as history has recorded in the
> infamous Bengals' "Freezer Bowl" that had wind chills below -50 degrees)
> and some years we never get below the lower 20's.
>
> The only problem I have with my Wrangler is highway speeds with wind gusts
> from trucks and stuff will cause your soft upper doors to pull away from
> its seal and allow blasts of cold air in. Many times on the highway, I'll
> have to run my heater full blast to compensate for it.
>
> Those that claim CJ's and Wranglers are cold in the winter with soft tops
> must have never owned one...
>
08-24-2003, 11:36 PM
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Re: wrangler question
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On the other hand, the inline 4.0 tends to get 20 miles per
> gallon
i wish somebody would tell mine that! im still hoping for 15mph one of
these days. :-)
--
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http://7SlotGrille.com
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> On the other hand, the inline 4.0 tends to get 20 miles per
> gallon
i wish somebody would tell mine that! im still hoping for 15mph one of
these days. :-)
--
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http://7SlotGrille.com
08-24-2003, 11:36 PM
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Re: wrangler question
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On the other hand, the inline 4.0 tends to get 20 miles per
> gallon
i wish somebody would tell mine that! im still hoping for 15mph one of
these days. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:6hednVaZ6Z4gtdSiXTWJig@comcast.com...
> On the other hand, the inline 4.0 tends to get 20 miles per
> gallon
i wish somebody would tell mine that! im still hoping for 15mph one of
these days. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
08-25-2003, 12:43 AM
#36
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Re: wrangler question
Jerry,
I know about aerodynamic lift (high vs low pressures on opposite sides of
an object in motion thru a liquid.) Just drove 90+ down the highway (its
1230am, no traffic, yes very irresponsible.) Duplicated only with my blower
on. And only when hit with a crosswind, although its only slightly breezy
tonight. 5-10 MPH according to NWS. The zippers and Velcro seem to dissipate
enough pressure to prevent the uppers from separating. I suppose in high
enough crosswinds the uppers could "leak."
So, to the original poster whose soft door uppers would "leak", try
this: with the door open, you sitting on the seat, put your knee at the top
of the lower door half, and pull in on the top of the door upper, bending it
in and making it harder for air pressure to crack the uppers open. (Steel
Horse recommends this procedure for "leaking" door upper replacements.) And
be gentle, you still need to be able to close the doors silly.
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ Sahara
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:_df2b.10413$Qy4.4116@fed1read05...
>
> "Joseph Pribe" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:_He2b.26638$5H4.856913@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > Just wanted to let you know the reason the doors blow open is b/c of the
> air
> > pressure you are adding with the blower on high.
>
> They pull away just as much with the HVAC system and fan turned completely
> off. The uppers pull away due to lift being generated, just like an
> aircraft wing, not from the HVAC fan.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
> Also, for defrosting, esp.
> > with fogging, keep the blower on the slower speeds. Here's why: the
longer
> > the air is in contact with the heater core the hotter it gets, SO, the
> > faster the air is moving (higher blower setting) the less heat is
> > transfered, which equals colder air.
> > Try it, you'll like it.
> >
> > Joe
> > (jpribe at nc.rr.com)
> >
> > "Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:3f48c038$0$12616$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> > > Boots Crofoot wrote:
> > >
> > > > Am thinking about getting one with the cloth top. Would like
> > > > to know how warn they are in the winter? Also understand
> > > > they have plastic side windows. How to you scrape the ice
> > > > off of them? Thanks
> > >
> > > My '94 Wrangler is perfectly warm in the winter. As a matter of fact,
> > > sometimes I have passengers in my car that turn the heat down! I live
in
> > > Cincinnati, and we have a real mix in the winter and only see really
> cold
> > > weather (less than 10 degrees) for maybe two weeks or so, if at all.
> > > Sometimes we get serious artic temps (as history has recorded in the
> > > infamous Bengals' "Freezer Bowl" that had wind chills below -50
degrees)
> > > and some years we never get below the lower 20's.
> > >
> > > The only problem I have with my Wrangler is highway speeds with wind
> gusts
> > > from trucks and stuff will cause your soft upper doors to pull away
from
> > > its seal and allow blasts of cold air in. Many times on the highway,
> I'll
> > > have to run my heater full blast to compensate for it.
> > >
> > > Those that claim CJ's and Wranglers are cold in the winter with soft
> tops
> > > must have never owned one...
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
I know about aerodynamic lift (high vs low pressures on opposite sides of
an object in motion thru a liquid.) Just drove 90+ down the highway (its
1230am, no traffic, yes very irresponsible.) Duplicated only with my blower
on. And only when hit with a crosswind, although its only slightly breezy
tonight. 5-10 MPH according to NWS. The zippers and Velcro seem to dissipate
enough pressure to prevent the uppers from separating. I suppose in high
enough crosswinds the uppers could "leak."
So, to the original poster whose soft door uppers would "leak", try
this: with the door open, you sitting on the seat, put your knee at the top
of the lower door half, and pull in on the top of the door upper, bending it
in and making it harder for air pressure to crack the uppers open. (Steel
Horse recommends this procedure for "leaking" door upper replacements.) And
be gentle, you still need to be able to close the doors silly.
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ Sahara
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:_df2b.10413$Qy4.4116@fed1read05...
>
> "Joseph Pribe" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:_He2b.26638$5H4.856913@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > Just wanted to let you know the reason the doors blow open is b/c of the
> air
> > pressure you are adding with the blower on high.
>
> They pull away just as much with the HVAC system and fan turned completely
> off. The uppers pull away due to lift being generated, just like an
> aircraft wing, not from the HVAC fan.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
> Also, for defrosting, esp.
> > with fogging, keep the blower on the slower speeds. Here's why: the
longer
> > the air is in contact with the heater core the hotter it gets, SO, the
> > faster the air is moving (higher blower setting) the less heat is
> > transfered, which equals colder air.
> > Try it, you'll like it.
> >
> > Joe
> > (jpribe at nc.rr.com)
> >
> > "Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:3f48c038$0$12616$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> > > Boots Crofoot wrote:
> > >
> > > > Am thinking about getting one with the cloth top. Would like
> > > > to know how warn they are in the winter? Also understand
> > > > they have plastic side windows. How to you scrape the ice
> > > > off of them? Thanks
> > >
> > > My '94 Wrangler is perfectly warm in the winter. As a matter of fact,
> > > sometimes I have passengers in my car that turn the heat down! I live
in
> > > Cincinnati, and we have a real mix in the winter and only see really
> cold
> > > weather (less than 10 degrees) for maybe two weeks or so, if at all.
> > > Sometimes we get serious artic temps (as history has recorded in the
> > > infamous Bengals' "Freezer Bowl" that had wind chills below -50
degrees)
> > > and some years we never get below the lower 20's.
> > >
> > > The only problem I have with my Wrangler is highway speeds with wind
> gusts
> > > from trucks and stuff will cause your soft upper doors to pull away
from
> > > its seal and allow blasts of cold air in. Many times on the highway,
> I'll
> > > have to run my heater full blast to compensate for it.
> > >
> > > Those that claim CJ's and Wranglers are cold in the winter with soft
> tops
> > > must have never owned one...
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
08-25-2003, 12:43 AM
#37
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Re: wrangler question
Jerry,
I know about aerodynamic lift (high vs low pressures on opposite sides of
an object in motion thru a liquid.) Just drove 90+ down the highway (its
1230am, no traffic, yes very irresponsible.) Duplicated only with my blower
on. And only when hit with a crosswind, although its only slightly breezy
tonight. 5-10 MPH according to NWS. The zippers and Velcro seem to dissipate
enough pressure to prevent the uppers from separating. I suppose in high
enough crosswinds the uppers could "leak."
So, to the original poster whose soft door uppers would "leak", try
this: with the door open, you sitting on the seat, put your knee at the top
of the lower door half, and pull in on the top of the door upper, bending it
in and making it harder for air pressure to crack the uppers open. (Steel
Horse recommends this procedure for "leaking" door upper replacements.) And
be gentle, you still need to be able to close the doors silly.
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ Sahara
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:_df2b.10413$Qy4.4116@fed1read05...
>
> "Joseph Pribe" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:_He2b.26638$5H4.856913@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > Just wanted to let you know the reason the doors blow open is b/c of the
> air
> > pressure you are adding with the blower on high.
>
> They pull away just as much with the HVAC system and fan turned completely
> off. The uppers pull away due to lift being generated, just like an
> aircraft wing, not from the HVAC fan.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
> Also, for defrosting, esp.
> > with fogging, keep the blower on the slower speeds. Here's why: the
longer
> > the air is in contact with the heater core the hotter it gets, SO, the
> > faster the air is moving (higher blower setting) the less heat is
> > transfered, which equals colder air.
> > Try it, you'll like it.
> >
> > Joe
> > (jpribe at nc.rr.com)
> >
> > "Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:3f48c038$0$12616$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> > > Boots Crofoot wrote:
> > >
> > > > Am thinking about getting one with the cloth top. Would like
> > > > to know how warn they are in the winter? Also understand
> > > > they have plastic side windows. How to you scrape the ice
> > > > off of them? Thanks
> > >
> > > My '94 Wrangler is perfectly warm in the winter. As a matter of fact,
> > > sometimes I have passengers in my car that turn the heat down! I live
in
> > > Cincinnati, and we have a real mix in the winter and only see really
> cold
> > > weather (less than 10 degrees) for maybe two weeks or so, if at all.
> > > Sometimes we get serious artic temps (as history has recorded in the
> > > infamous Bengals' "Freezer Bowl" that had wind chills below -50
degrees)
> > > and some years we never get below the lower 20's.
> > >
> > > The only problem I have with my Wrangler is highway speeds with wind
> gusts
> > > from trucks and stuff will cause your soft upper doors to pull away
from
> > > its seal and allow blasts of cold air in. Many times on the highway,
> I'll
> > > have to run my heater full blast to compensate for it.
> > >
> > > Those that claim CJ's and Wranglers are cold in the winter with soft
> tops
> > > must have never owned one...
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
I know about aerodynamic lift (high vs low pressures on opposite sides of
an object in motion thru a liquid.) Just drove 90+ down the highway (its
1230am, no traffic, yes very irresponsible.) Duplicated only with my blower
on. And only when hit with a crosswind, although its only slightly breezy
tonight. 5-10 MPH according to NWS. The zippers and Velcro seem to dissipate
enough pressure to prevent the uppers from separating. I suppose in high
enough crosswinds the uppers could "leak."
So, to the original poster whose soft door uppers would "leak", try
this: with the door open, you sitting on the seat, put your knee at the top
of the lower door half, and pull in on the top of the door upper, bending it
in and making it harder for air pressure to crack the uppers open. (Steel
Horse recommends this procedure for "leaking" door upper replacements.) And
be gentle, you still need to be able to close the doors silly.
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ Sahara
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:_df2b.10413$Qy4.4116@fed1read05...
>
> "Joseph Pribe" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:_He2b.26638$5H4.856913@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > Just wanted to let you know the reason the doors blow open is b/c of the
> air
> > pressure you are adding with the blower on high.
>
> They pull away just as much with the HVAC system and fan turned completely
> off. The uppers pull away due to lift being generated, just like an
> aircraft wing, not from the HVAC fan.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
> Also, for defrosting, esp.
> > with fogging, keep the blower on the slower speeds. Here's why: the
longer
> > the air is in contact with the heater core the hotter it gets, SO, the
> > faster the air is moving (higher blower setting) the less heat is
> > transfered, which equals colder air.
> > Try it, you'll like it.
> >
> > Joe
> > (jpribe at nc.rr.com)
> >
> > "Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:3f48c038$0$12616$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> > > Boots Crofoot wrote:
> > >
> > > > Am thinking about getting one with the cloth top. Would like
> > > > to know how warn they are in the winter? Also understand
> > > > they have plastic side windows. How to you scrape the ice
> > > > off of them? Thanks
> > >
> > > My '94 Wrangler is perfectly warm in the winter. As a matter of fact,
> > > sometimes I have passengers in my car that turn the heat down! I live
in
> > > Cincinnati, and we have a real mix in the winter and only see really
> cold
> > > weather (less than 10 degrees) for maybe two weeks or so, if at all.
> > > Sometimes we get serious artic temps (as history has recorded in the
> > > infamous Bengals' "Freezer Bowl" that had wind chills below -50
degrees)
> > > and some years we never get below the lower 20's.
> > >
> > > The only problem I have with my Wrangler is highway speeds with wind
> gusts
> > > from trucks and stuff will cause your soft upper doors to pull away
from
> > > its seal and allow blasts of cold air in. Many times on the highway,
> I'll
> > > have to run my heater full blast to compensate for it.
> > >
> > > Those that claim CJ's and Wranglers are cold in the winter with soft
> tops
> > > must have never owned one...
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
08-25-2003, 12:47 AM
#38
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Re: wrangler question
BTW Jerry, the Geezer is awesome!
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ Sahara
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:_df2b.10413$Qy4.4116@fed1read05...
>
> "Joseph Pribe" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:_He2b.26638$5H4.856913@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > Just wanted to let you know the reason the doors blow open is b/c of the
> air
> > pressure you are adding with the blower on high.
>
> They pull away just as much with the HVAC system and fan turned completely
> off. The uppers pull away due to lift being generated, just like an
> aircraft wing, not from the HVAC fan.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
> Also, for defrosting, esp.
> > with fogging, keep the blower on the slower speeds. Here's why: the
longer
> > the air is in contact with the heater core the hotter it gets, SO, the
> > faster the air is moving (higher blower setting) the less heat is
> > transfered, which equals colder air.
> > Try it, you'll like it.
> >
> > Joe
> > (jpribe at nc.rr.com)
> >
> > "Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:3f48c038$0$12616$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> > > Boots Crofoot wrote:
> > >
> > > > Am thinking about getting one with the cloth top. Would like
> > > > to know how warn they are in the winter? Also understand
> > > > they have plastic side windows. How to you scrape the ice
> > > > off of them? Thanks
> > >
> > > My '94 Wrangler is perfectly warm in the winter. As a matter of fact,
> > > sometimes I have passengers in my car that turn the heat down! I live
in
> > > Cincinnati, and we have a real mix in the winter and only see really
> cold
> > > weather (less than 10 degrees) for maybe two weeks or so, if at all.
> > > Sometimes we get serious artic temps (as history has recorded in the
> > > infamous Bengals' "Freezer Bowl" that had wind chills below -50
degrees)
> > > and some years we never get below the lower 20's.
> > >
> > > The only problem I have with my Wrangler is highway speeds with wind
> gusts
> > > from trucks and stuff will cause your soft upper doors to pull away
from
> > > its seal and allow blasts of cold air in. Many times on the highway,
> I'll
> > > have to run my heater full blast to compensate for it.
> > >
> > > Those that claim CJ's and Wranglers are cold in the winter with soft
> tops
> > > must have never owned one...
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Joe Pribe
NC
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jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ Sahara
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:_df2b.10413$Qy4.4116@fed1read05...
>
> "Joseph Pribe" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:_He2b.26638$5H4.856913@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > Just wanted to let you know the reason the doors blow open is b/c of the
> air
> > pressure you are adding with the blower on high.
>
> They pull away just as much with the HVAC system and fan turned completely
> off. The uppers pull away due to lift being generated, just like an
> aircraft wing, not from the HVAC fan.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
> Also, for defrosting, esp.
> > with fogging, keep the blower on the slower speeds. Here's why: the
longer
> > the air is in contact with the heater core the hotter it gets, SO, the
> > faster the air is moving (higher blower setting) the less heat is
> > transfered, which equals colder air.
> > Try it, you'll like it.
> >
> > Joe
> > (jpribe at nc.rr.com)
> >
> > "Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:3f48c038$0$12616$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> > > Boots Crofoot wrote:
> > >
> > > > Am thinking about getting one with the cloth top. Would like
> > > > to know how warn they are in the winter? Also understand
> > > > they have plastic side windows. How to you scrape the ice
> > > > off of them? Thanks
> > >
> > > My '94 Wrangler is perfectly warm in the winter. As a matter of fact,
> > > sometimes I have passengers in my car that turn the heat down! I live
in
> > > Cincinnati, and we have a real mix in the winter and only see really
> cold
> > > weather (less than 10 degrees) for maybe two weeks or so, if at all.
> > > Sometimes we get serious artic temps (as history has recorded in the
> > > infamous Bengals' "Freezer Bowl" that had wind chills below -50
degrees)
> > > and some years we never get below the lower 20's.
> > >
> > > The only problem I have with my Wrangler is highway speeds with wind
> gusts
> > > from trucks and stuff will cause your soft upper doors to pull away
from
> > > its seal and allow blasts of cold air in. Many times on the highway,
> I'll
> > > have to run my heater full blast to compensate for it.
> > >
> > > Those that claim CJ's and Wranglers are cold in the winter with soft
> tops
> > > must have never owned one...
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
08-25-2003, 12:47 AM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: wrangler question
BTW Jerry, the Geezer is awesome!
--
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Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ Sahara
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:_df2b.10413$Qy4.4116@fed1read05...
>
> "Joseph Pribe" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:_He2b.26638$5H4.856913@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > Just wanted to let you know the reason the doors blow open is b/c of the
> air
> > pressure you are adding with the blower on high.
>
> They pull away just as much with the HVAC system and fan turned completely
> off. The uppers pull away due to lift being generated, just like an
> aircraft wing, not from the HVAC fan.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
> Also, for defrosting, esp.
> > with fogging, keep the blower on the slower speeds. Here's why: the
longer
> > the air is in contact with the heater core the hotter it gets, SO, the
> > faster the air is moving (higher blower setting) the less heat is
> > transfered, which equals colder air.
> > Try it, you'll like it.
> >
> > Joe
> > (jpribe at nc.rr.com)
> >
> > "Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:3f48c038$0$12616$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> > > Boots Crofoot wrote:
> > >
> > > > Am thinking about getting one with the cloth top. Would like
> > > > to know how warn they are in the winter? Also understand
> > > > they have plastic side windows. How to you scrape the ice
> > > > off of them? Thanks
> > >
> > > My '94 Wrangler is perfectly warm in the winter. As a matter of fact,
> > > sometimes I have passengers in my car that turn the heat down! I live
in
> > > Cincinnati, and we have a real mix in the winter and only see really
> cold
> > > weather (less than 10 degrees) for maybe two weeks or so, if at all.
> > > Sometimes we get serious artic temps (as history has recorded in the
> > > infamous Bengals' "Freezer Bowl" that had wind chills below -50
degrees)
> > > and some years we never get below the lower 20's.
> > >
> > > The only problem I have with my Wrangler is highway speeds with wind
> gusts
> > > from trucks and stuff will cause your soft upper doors to pull away
from
> > > its seal and allow blasts of cold air in. Many times on the highway,
> I'll
> > > have to run my heater full blast to compensate for it.
> > >
> > > Those that claim CJ's and Wranglers are cold in the winter with soft
> tops
> > > must have never owned one...
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ Sahara
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:_df2b.10413$Qy4.4116@fed1read05...
>
> "Joseph Pribe" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:_He2b.26638$5H4.856913@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> > Just wanted to let you know the reason the doors blow open is b/c of the
> air
> > pressure you are adding with the blower on high.
>
> They pull away just as much with the HVAC system and fan turned completely
> off. The uppers pull away due to lift being generated, just like an
> aircraft wing, not from the HVAC fan.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
> Also, for defrosting, esp.
> > with fogging, keep the blower on the slower speeds. Here's why: the
longer
> > the air is in contact with the heater core the hotter it gets, SO, the
> > faster the air is moving (higher blower setting) the less heat is
> > transfered, which equals colder air.
> > Try it, you'll like it.
> >
> > Joe
> > (jpribe at nc.rr.com)
> >
> > "Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:3f48c038$0$12616$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
> > > Boots Crofoot wrote:
> > >
> > > > Am thinking about getting one with the cloth top. Would like
> > > > to know how warn they are in the winter? Also understand
> > > > they have plastic side windows. How to you scrape the ice
> > > > off of them? Thanks
> > >
> > > My '94 Wrangler is perfectly warm in the winter. As a matter of fact,
> > > sometimes I have passengers in my car that turn the heat down! I live
in
> > > Cincinnati, and we have a real mix in the winter and only see really
> cold
> > > weather (less than 10 degrees) for maybe two weeks or so, if at all.
> > > Sometimes we get serious artic temps (as history has recorded in the
> > > infamous Bengals' "Freezer Bowl" that had wind chills below -50
degrees)
> > > and some years we never get below the lower 20's.
> > >
> > > The only problem I have with my Wrangler is highway speeds with wind
> gusts
> > > from trucks and stuff will cause your soft upper doors to pull away
from
> > > its seal and allow blasts of cold air in. Many times on the highway,
> I'll
> > > have to run my heater full blast to compensate for it.
> > >
> > > Those that claim CJ's and Wranglers are cold in the winter with soft
> tops
> > > must have never owned one...
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
08-25-2003, 04:57 AM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: wrangler question
Wash the mud off, Nate !
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@A0L.com> wrote in message
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: "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
: news:6hednVaZ6Z4gtdSiXTWJig@comcast.com...
: > On the other hand, the inline 4.0 tends to get 20 miles per
: > gallon
:
: i wish somebody would tell mine that! im still hoping for 15mph one of
: these days. :-)
:
:
: --
: Nathan W. Collier
: http://7SlotGrille.com
:
:
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@A0L.com> wrote in message
news:gvf2b.26650$5H4.871030@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
: "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
: news:6hednVaZ6Z4gtdSiXTWJig@comcast.com...
: > On the other hand, the inline 4.0 tends to get 20 miles per
: > gallon
:
: i wish somebody would tell mine that! im still hoping for 15mph one of
: these days. :-)
:
:
: --
: Nathan W. Collier
: http://7SlotGrille.com
:
:
