Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.

A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
friend with a shop help him change it.

They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.

So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.

He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
wheel falls off!!!!

The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
fell out on the first tight turn.

I couldn't freaking believe it!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Boy oh boy Mike Lucky day for your bud to still be alive. Shaking my head in
total disbelief.

--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4085B3DC.F6135D5@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
>
> A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> friend with a shop help him change it.
>
> They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
>
> So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
>
> He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> wheel falls off!!!!
>
> The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> fell out on the first tight turn.
>
> I couldn't freaking believe it!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Boy oh boy Mike Lucky day for your bud to still be alive. Shaking my head in
total disbelief.

--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4085B3DC.F6135D5@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
>
> A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> friend with a shop help him change it.
>
> They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
>
> So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
>
> He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> wheel falls off!!!!
>
> The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> fell out on the first tight turn.
>
> I couldn't freaking believe it!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Boy oh boy Mike Lucky day for your bud to still be alive. Shaking my head in
total disbelief.

--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4085B3DC.F6135D5@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
>
> A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> friend with a shop help him change it.
>
> They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
>
> So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
>
> He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> wheel falls off!!!!
>
> The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> fell out on the first tight turn.
>
> I couldn't freaking believe it!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Boy oh boy Mike Lucky day for your bud to still be alive. Shaking my head in
total disbelief.

--
CJ & XJ JIMMIE VP.of The North Iowa Off-road Club


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4085B3DC.F6135D5@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
>
> A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> friend with a shop help him change it.
>
> They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
>
> So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
>
> He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> wheel falls off!!!!
>
> The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> fell out on the first tight turn.
>
> I couldn't freaking believe it!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
>
> A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> friend with a shop help him change it.
>
> They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
>
> So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
>
> He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> wheel falls off!!!!
>
> The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> fell out on the first tight turn.
>
> I couldn't freaking believe it!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
>
> A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> friend with a shop help him change it.
>
> They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
>
> So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
>
> He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> wheel falls off!!!!
>
> The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> fell out on the first tight turn.
>
> I couldn't freaking believe it!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
>
> A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> friend with a shop help him change it.
>
> They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
>
> So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
>
> He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> wheel falls off!!!!
>
> The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> fell out on the first tight turn.
>
> I couldn't freaking believe it!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
>
> A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> friend with a shop help him change it.
>
> They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
>
> So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
>
> He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> wheel falls off!!!!
>
> The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> fell out on the first tight turn.
>
> I couldn't freaking believe it!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4085E182.ED718580@cox.net...
> I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
> >
> > A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> > friend with a shop help him change it.
> >
> > They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> > the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> > before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
> >
> > So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> > come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> > back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
> >
> > He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> > wheel falls off!!!!
> >
> > The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> > hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> > fell out on the first tight turn.
> >
> > I couldn't freaking believe it!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Like on most FWD vehicles with unit bearing hubs, the stub axle and nut on
non-locking hub Jeeps hold the wheel bearing together. Whoever this poor
guy's tech is needs to start using his brain, he could have killed the poor
guy.

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4085E182.ED718580@cox.net...
> I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
> >
> > A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> > friend with a shop help him change it.
> >
> > They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> > the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> > before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
> >
> > So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> > come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> > back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
> >
> > He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> > wheel falls off!!!!
> >
> > The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> > hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> > fell out on the first tight turn.
> >
> > I couldn't freaking believe it!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Like on most FWD vehicles with unit bearing hubs, the stub axle and nut on
non-locking hub Jeeps hold the wheel bearing together. Whoever this poor
guy's tech is needs to start using his brain, he could have killed the poor
guy.

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4085E182.ED718580@cox.net...
> I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
> >
> > A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> > friend with a shop help him change it.
> >
> > They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> > the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> > before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
> >
> > So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> > come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> > back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
> >
> > He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> > wheel falls off!!!!
> >
> > The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> > hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> > fell out on the first tight turn.
> >
> > I couldn't freaking believe it!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Like on most FWD vehicles with unit bearing hubs, the stub axle and nut on
non-locking hub Jeeps hold the wheel bearing together. Whoever this poor
guy's tech is needs to start using his brain, he could have killed the poor
guy.

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4085E182.ED718580@cox.net...
> I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
> >
> > A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> > friend with a shop help him change it.
> >
> > They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> > the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> > before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
> >
> > So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> > come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> > back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
> >
> > He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> > wheel falls off!!!!
> >
> > The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> > hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> > fell out on the first tight turn.
> >
> > I couldn't freaking believe it!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Like on most FWD vehicles with unit bearing hubs, the stub axle and nut on
non-locking hub Jeeps hold the wheel bearing together. Whoever this poor
guy's tech is needs to start using his brain, he could have killed the poor
guy.

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

The spindle of the pressed hub relies on the axle to hold it together.

It is pressed tight to start, but the side to side slide is held by the
short axle stub.

The nut to hold that bearing race is torqued to 175 ft lb!

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
> >
> > A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> > friend with a shop help him change it.
> >
> > They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> > the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> > before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
> >
> > So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> > come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> > back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
> >
> > He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> > wheel falls off!!!!
> >
> > The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> > hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> > fell out on the first tight turn.
> >
> > I couldn't freaking believe it!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

The spindle of the pressed hub relies on the axle to hold it together.

It is pressed tight to start, but the side to side slide is held by the
short axle stub.

The nut to hold that bearing race is torqued to 175 ft lb!

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
> >
> > A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> > friend with a shop help him change it.
> >
> > They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> > the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> > before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
> >
> > So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> > come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> > back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
> >
> > He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> > wheel falls off!!!!
> >
> > The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> > hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> > fell out on the first tight turn.
> >
> > I couldn't freaking believe it!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

The spindle of the pressed hub relies on the axle to hold it together.

It is pressed tight to start, but the side to side slide is held by the
short axle stub.

The nut to hold that bearing race is torqued to 175 ft lb!

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
> >
> > A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> > friend with a shop help him change it.
> >
> > They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> > the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> > before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
> >
> > So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> > come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> > back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
> >
> > He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> > wheel falls off!!!!
> >
> > The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> > hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> > fell out on the first tight turn.
> >
> > I couldn't freaking believe it!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

The spindle of the pressed hub relies on the axle to hold it together.

It is pressed tight to start, but the side to side slide is held by the
short axle stub.

The nut to hold that bearing race is torqued to 175 ft lb!

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
> >
> > A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> > friend with a shop help him change it.
> >
> > They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> > the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> > before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
> >
> > So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> > come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> > back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
> >
> > He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> > wheel falls off!!!!
> >
> > The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> > hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> > fell out on the first tight turn.
> >
> > I couldn't freaking believe it!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Hi Mike,
To put it context most rear axle bearings are pressed on and that
is the only thing holding the axle in. Of course that why repair shops
are required to carry millions of dollars of insurance, luckily it
wasn't used in this case.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> The spindle of the pressed hub relies on the axle to hold it together.
>
> It is pressed tight to start, but the side to side slide is held by the
> short axle stub.
>
> The nut to hold that bearing race is torqued to 175 ft lb!
>
> Mike

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Hi Mike,
To put it context most rear axle bearings are pressed on and that
is the only thing holding the axle in. Of course that why repair shops
are required to carry millions of dollars of insurance, luckily it
wasn't used in this case.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> The spindle of the pressed hub relies on the axle to hold it together.
>
> It is pressed tight to start, but the side to side slide is held by the
> short axle stub.
>
> The nut to hold that bearing race is torqued to 175 ft lb!
>
> Mike

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Hi Mike,
To put it context most rear axle bearings are pressed on and that
is the only thing holding the axle in. Of course that why repair shops
are required to carry millions of dollars of insurance, luckily it
wasn't used in this case.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> The spindle of the pressed hub relies on the axle to hold it together.
>
> It is pressed tight to start, but the side to side slide is held by the
> short axle stub.
>
> The nut to hold that bearing race is torqued to 175 ft lb!
>
> Mike

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Hi Mike,
To put it context most rear axle bearings are pressed on and that
is the only thing holding the axle in. Of course that why repair shops
are required to carry millions of dollars of insurance, luckily it
wasn't used in this case.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> The spindle of the pressed hub relies on the axle to hold it together.
>
> It is pressed tight to start, but the side to side slide is held by the
> short axle stub.
>
> The nut to hold that bearing race is torqued to 175 ft lb!
>
> Mike

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

When I get back from Iraq in December I'm going to pull the stock
axles, front and rear, and replace them with Superior axles. Your
post got me wondering, what special tools will I need to pull them? I
have an 03 rubi, if that affects the front axle at all.

Thanks,
Andrew Whitley

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4085E182.ED718580@cox.net>...
> I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

When I get back from Iraq in December I'm going to pull the stock
axles, front and rear, and replace them with Superior axles. Your
post got me wondering, what special tools will I need to pull them? I
have an 03 rubi, if that affects the front axle at all.

Thanks,
Andrew Whitley

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4085E182.ED718580@cox.net>...
> I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

When I get back from Iraq in December I'm going to pull the stock
axles, front and rear, and replace them with Superior axles. Your
post got me wondering, what special tools will I need to pull them? I
have an 03 rubi, if that affects the front axle at all.

Thanks,
Andrew Whitley

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4085E182.ED718580@cox.net>...
> I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

When I get back from Iraq in December I'm going to pull the stock
axles, front and rear, and replace them with Superior axles. Your
post got me wondering, what special tools will I need to pull them? I
have an 03 rubi, if that affects the front axle at all.

Thanks,
Andrew Whitley

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4085E182.ED718580@cox.net>...
> I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

The front hubs are 'barely' pressed together Bill.

The axle stub that goes through them has to have the nut torqued down to
175 foot pounds to hold the bearing together.

You can't use an axle puller to get the hub off on these suckers, the
hub just pulls apart.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> To put it context most rear axle bearings are pressed on and that
> is the only thing holding the axle in. Of course that why repair shops
> are required to carry millions of dollars of insurance, luckily it
> wasn't used in this case.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > The spindle of the pressed hub relies on the axle to hold it together.
> >
> > It is pressed tight to start, but the side to side slide is held by the
> > short axle stub.
> >
> > The nut to hold that bearing race is torqued to 175 ft lb!
> >
> > Mike

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

The front hubs are 'barely' pressed together Bill.

The axle stub that goes through them has to have the nut torqued down to
175 foot pounds to hold the bearing together.

You can't use an axle puller to get the hub off on these suckers, the
hub just pulls apart.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> To put it context most rear axle bearings are pressed on and that
> is the only thing holding the axle in. Of course that why repair shops
> are required to carry millions of dollars of insurance, luckily it
> wasn't used in this case.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > The spindle of the pressed hub relies on the axle to hold it together.
> >
> > It is pressed tight to start, but the side to side slide is held by the
> > short axle stub.
> >
> > The nut to hold that bearing race is torqued to 175 ft lb!
> >
> > Mike

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

The front hubs are 'barely' pressed together Bill.

The axle stub that goes through them has to have the nut torqued down to
175 foot pounds to hold the bearing together.

You can't use an axle puller to get the hub off on these suckers, the
hub just pulls apart.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> To put it context most rear axle bearings are pressed on and that
> is the only thing holding the axle in. Of course that why repair shops
> are required to carry millions of dollars of insurance, luckily it
> wasn't used in this case.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > The spindle of the pressed hub relies on the axle to hold it together.
> >
> > It is pressed tight to start, but the side to side slide is held by the
> > short axle stub.
> >
> > The nut to hold that bearing race is torqued to 175 ft lb!
> >
> > Mike

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

The front hubs are 'barely' pressed together Bill.

The axle stub that goes through them has to have the nut torqued down to
175 foot pounds to hold the bearing together.

You can't use an axle puller to get the hub off on these suckers, the
hub just pulls apart.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> To put it context most rear axle bearings are pressed on and that
> is the only thing holding the axle in. Of course that why repair shops
> are required to carry millions of dollars of insurance, luckily it
> wasn't used in this case.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > The spindle of the pressed hub relies on the axle to hold it together.
> >
> > It is pressed tight to start, but the side to side slide is held by the
> > short axle stub.
> >
> > The nut to hold that bearing race is torqued to 175 ft lb!
> >
> > Mike

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

We only needed a 13 mm 12 point socket wrench to do this one. Oh and
the 36 mm axle nut wrench to get the big nut which we can 'borrow' from
the parts store.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Andrew wrote:
>
> When I get back from Iraq in December I'm going to pull the stock
> axles, front and rear, and replace them with Superior axles. Your
> post got me wondering, what special tools will I need to pull them? I
> have an 03 rubi, if that affects the front axle at all.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew Whitley
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4085E182.ED718580@cox.net>...
> > I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> > Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> > nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> > difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

We only needed a 13 mm 12 point socket wrench to do this one. Oh and
the 36 mm axle nut wrench to get the big nut which we can 'borrow' from
the parts store.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Andrew wrote:
>
> When I get back from Iraq in December I'm going to pull the stock
> axles, front and rear, and replace them with Superior axles. Your
> post got me wondering, what special tools will I need to pull them? I
> have an 03 rubi, if that affects the front axle at all.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew Whitley
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4085E182.ED718580@cox.net>...
> > I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> > Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> > nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> > difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

We only needed a 13 mm 12 point socket wrench to do this one. Oh and
the 36 mm axle nut wrench to get the big nut which we can 'borrow' from
the parts store.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Andrew wrote:
>
> When I get back from Iraq in December I'm going to pull the stock
> axles, front and rear, and replace them with Superior axles. Your
> post got me wondering, what special tools will I need to pull them? I
> have an 03 rubi, if that affects the front axle at all.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew Whitley
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4085E182.ED718580@cox.net>...
> > I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> > Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> > nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> > difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

We only needed a 13 mm 12 point socket wrench to do this one. Oh and
the 36 mm axle nut wrench to get the big nut which we can 'borrow' from
the parts store.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Andrew wrote:
>
> When I get back from Iraq in December I'm going to pull the stock
> axles, front and rear, and replace them with Superior axles. Your
> post got me wondering, what special tools will I need to pull them? I
> have an 03 rubi, if that affects the front axle at all.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew Whitley
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4085E182.ED718580@cox.net>...
> > I thought it was pressed on tighter than that, I remember Matt
> > Macchiarolo pulling his apart with an axle puller and using in the axle
> > nut to sock it back on. Of course having the axle in or out makes no
> > difference to the floating bearing, Real Jeep hub.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Something similar happened to my bf a little while back- although it's
probably under different circumstances but his tire fell off too, after the
mechanic said he 'fixed' the wheel. He was about to take a turn onto the
freeway when it happened!

The next year he went to a different mechanic because his driver's seat
broke and he couldn't make the darned seat back stay up any longer. He had
an appoitment that afternoon, but when the guy looked at it, he said he
didn't have the right part to fix it, but offered a temporary fix so he
could drive it until the part came in- he actually offered to put a BOARD
propped up on the back seat floor and against his seat!!! Can you even
imagine?? What if he got into an accident??

I can't even begin to think of what other quick fixes that mechanic has come
up with. Needless to say, my bf high-tailed it out of there. When you don't
know a good mechanic, it sure can be a struggle sometimes.

coop


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4085B3DC.F6135D5@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
>
> A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> friend with a shop help him change it.
>
> They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
>
> So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
>
> He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> wheel falls off!!!!
>
> The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> fell out on the first tight turn.
>
> I couldn't freaking believe it!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Something similar happened to my bf a little while back- although it's
probably under different circumstances but his tire fell off too, after the
mechanic said he 'fixed' the wheel. He was about to take a turn onto the
freeway when it happened!

The next year he went to a different mechanic because his driver's seat
broke and he couldn't make the darned seat back stay up any longer. He had
an appoitment that afternoon, but when the guy looked at it, he said he
didn't have the right part to fix it, but offered a temporary fix so he
could drive it until the part came in- he actually offered to put a BOARD
propped up on the back seat floor and against his seat!!! Can you even
imagine?? What if he got into an accident??

I can't even begin to think of what other quick fixes that mechanic has come
up with. Needless to say, my bf high-tailed it out of there. When you don't
know a good mechanic, it sure can be a struggle sometimes.

coop


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4085B3DC.F6135D5@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
>
> A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> friend with a shop help him change it.
>
> They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
>
> So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
>
> He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> wheel falls off!!!!
>
> The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> fell out on the first tight turn.
>
> I couldn't freaking believe it!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Something similar happened to my bf a little while back- although it's
probably under different circumstances but his tire fell off too, after the
mechanic said he 'fixed' the wheel. He was about to take a turn onto the
freeway when it happened!

The next year he went to a different mechanic because his driver's seat
broke and he couldn't make the darned seat back stay up any longer. He had
an appoitment that afternoon, but when the guy looked at it, he said he
didn't have the right part to fix it, but offered a temporary fix so he
could drive it until the part came in- he actually offered to put a BOARD
propped up on the back seat floor and against his seat!!! Can you even
imagine?? What if he got into an accident??

I can't even begin to think of what other quick fixes that mechanic has come
up with. Needless to say, my bf high-tailed it out of there. When you don't
know a good mechanic, it sure can be a struggle sometimes.

coop


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4085B3DC.F6135D5@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
>
> A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> friend with a shop help him change it.
>
> They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
>
> So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
>
> He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> wheel falls off!!!!
>
> The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> fell out on the first tight turn.
>
> I couldn't freaking believe it!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Something similar happened to my bf a little while back- although it's
probably under different circumstances but his tire fell off too, after the
mechanic said he 'fixed' the wheel. He was about to take a turn onto the
freeway when it happened!

The next year he went to a different mechanic because his driver's seat
broke and he couldn't make the darned seat back stay up any longer. He had
an appoitment that afternoon, but when the guy looked at it, he said he
didn't have the right part to fix it, but offered a temporary fix so he
could drive it until the part came in- he actually offered to put a BOARD
propped up on the back seat floor and against his seat!!! Can you even
imagine?? What if he got into an accident??

I can't even begin to think of what other quick fixes that mechanic has come
up with. Needless to say, my bf high-tailed it out of there. When you don't
know a good mechanic, it sure can be a struggle sometimes.

coop


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4085B3DC.F6135D5@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, I mean holy ----, I think I have seen everything.
>
> A friend has a TJ and he blew a front axle u-joint so had a 'mechanic'
> friend with a shop help him change it.
>
> They couldn't get the right u-joint or it didn't seem like it because
> the jerk bent the ears on the yoke trying to hammer the old one out
> before he ended up using a cutting torch to cut the old u-joint out.
>
> So buddy says ok, I will get a new or the right u-joint tomorrow and
> come back after work. The mechanic says fine and puts the front hub
> back on and send him off on the 30 mile highway drive home.
>
> He gets home and on the first tight turn he takes to park, the front
> wheel falls off!!!!
>
> The 'mechanic' didn't install the short stub of the axle back into the
> hub. That is all that holds the inside bearing race in place! The race
> fell out on the first tight turn.
>
> I couldn't freaking believe it!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Hi Mike,
Now you tell us, after the guy's tire falls off and rolls over ten
times, decapitating him. Oh well, he should have had a Real Jeep, where
we have never have lost a universal joint, and of course the Real Jeep
hub and floating bearings are not dependent on having an axle in place:
http://www.----------.com/dana25knuckle.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> The front hubs are 'barely' pressed together Bill.
>
> The axle stub that goes through them has to have the nut torqued down to
> 175 foot pounds to hold the bearing together.
>
> You can't use an axle puller to get the hub off on these suckers, the
> hub just pulls apart.
>
> Mike

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Hi Mike,
Now you tell us, after the guy's tire falls off and rolls over ten
times, decapitating him. Oh well, he should have had a Real Jeep, where
we have never have lost a universal joint, and of course the Real Jeep
hub and floating bearings are not dependent on having an axle in place:
http://www.----------.com/dana25knuckle.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> The front hubs are 'barely' pressed together Bill.
>
> The axle stub that goes through them has to have the nut torqued down to
> 175 foot pounds to hold the bearing together.
>
> You can't use an axle puller to get the hub off on these suckers, the
> hub just pulls apart.
>
> Mike

Re: Wow, had to help a friend with a TJ - Front wheel Fell Off!!
 

Hi Mike,
Now you tell us, after the guy's tire falls off and rolls over ten
times, decapitating him. Oh well, he should have had a Real Jeep, where
we have never have lost a universal joint, and of course the Real Jeep
hub and floating bearings are not dependent on having an axle in place:
http://www.----------.com/dana25knuckle.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> The front hubs are 'barely' pressed together Bill.
>
> The axle stub that goes through them has to have the nut torqued down to
> 175 foot pounds to hold the bearing together.
>
> You can't use an axle puller to get the hub off on these suckers, the
> hub just pulls apart.
>
> Mike