Is it worth it?
02-27-2007, 01:02 AM
#51
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Re: Is it worth it?
People like Snow here believe it's worth the work, just remember to
brace the chassis before you weld or your doors will not close:
http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/
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"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
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> I just bought an 86 Cherokee. I recently started to remove the
> interior and carpet and discovered the front floor pans were shot as
> well as two spots behind the front seats. How do I decide whether the
> vehicle is worth repairing. It looks as though the whole underside is
> fairly corroded. The engine is fairly new(2.5L)less than 25,000 mi on
> a new long block. The body is in great shape. How long will this thing
> last if I replace the floor pans? It runs great, has a three inch
> lift, and near new 30x9.5 bfg all terrains on it. Is it worth it? What
> axles does this thing have under it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
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"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
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> I just bought an 86 Cherokee. I recently started to remove the
> interior and carpet and discovered the front floor pans were shot as
> well as two spots behind the front seats. How do I decide whether the
> vehicle is worth repairing. It looks as though the whole underside is
> fairly corroded. The engine is fairly new(2.5L)less than 25,000 mi on
> a new long block. The body is in great shape. How long will this thing
> last if I replace the floor pans? It runs great, has a three inch
> lift, and near new 30x9.5 bfg all terrains on it. Is it worth it? What
> axles does this thing have under it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
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02-27-2007, 01:02 AM
#52
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Re: Is it worth it?
People like Snow here believe it's worth the work, just remember to
brace the chassis before you weld or your doors will not close:
http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1172540672.611239.122740@t69g2000cwt.googlegr oups.com...
> I just bought an 86 Cherokee. I recently started to remove the
> interior and carpet and discovered the front floor pans were shot as
> well as two spots behind the front seats. How do I decide whether the
> vehicle is worth repairing. It looks as though the whole underside is
> fairly corroded. The engine is fairly new(2.5L)less than 25,000 mi on
> a new long block. The body is in great shape. How long will this thing
> last if I replace the floor pans? It runs great, has a three inch
> lift, and near new 30x9.5 bfg all terrains on it. Is it worth it? What
> axles does this thing have under it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
--
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brace the chassis before you weld or your doors will not close:
http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/
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mailto:--------------------
"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1172540672.611239.122740@t69g2000cwt.googlegr oups.com...
> I just bought an 86 Cherokee. I recently started to remove the
> interior and carpet and discovered the front floor pans were shot as
> well as two spots behind the front seats. How do I decide whether the
> vehicle is worth repairing. It looks as though the whole underside is
> fairly corroded. The engine is fairly new(2.5L)less than 25,000 mi on
> a new long block. The body is in great shape. How long will this thing
> last if I replace the floor pans? It runs great, has a three inch
> lift, and near new 30x9.5 bfg all terrains on it. Is it worth it? What
> axles does this thing have under it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
--
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02-27-2007, 08:31 AM
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Re: Is it worth it?
Hey that floor out lasted the rest of the JeeP. When I got rid of it
last summer both rockers were missing, gas tank couldn't more then
about 2 litres, all four shocks were toast, one rear leaf was cracked.
As long as you live in a place where you don't have to do an annual
safety as part of the smog testing, then yes I think it worth it, but
it also depends on the condition of the rest of the vehicle. In the
case I would do it even with it only having a 4 banger.
Snow...
last summer both rockers were missing, gas tank couldn't more then
about 2 litres, all four shocks were toast, one rear leaf was cracked.
As long as you live in a place where you don't have to do an annual
safety as part of the smog testing, then yes I think it worth it, but
it also depends on the condition of the rest of the vehicle. In the
case I would do it even with it only having a 4 banger.
Snow...
02-27-2007, 08:31 AM
#54
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Re: Is it worth it?
Hey that floor out lasted the rest of the JeeP. When I got rid of it
last summer both rockers were missing, gas tank couldn't more then
about 2 litres, all four shocks were toast, one rear leaf was cracked.
As long as you live in a place where you don't have to do an annual
safety as part of the smog testing, then yes I think it worth it, but
it also depends on the condition of the rest of the vehicle. In the
case I would do it even with it only having a 4 banger.
Snow...
last summer both rockers were missing, gas tank couldn't more then
about 2 litres, all four shocks were toast, one rear leaf was cracked.
As long as you live in a place where you don't have to do an annual
safety as part of the smog testing, then yes I think it worth it, but
it also depends on the condition of the rest of the vehicle. In the
case I would do it even with it only having a 4 banger.
Snow...
02-27-2007, 08:31 AM
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Re: Is it worth it?
Hey that floor out lasted the rest of the JeeP. When I got rid of it
last summer both rockers were missing, gas tank couldn't more then
about 2 litres, all four shocks were toast, one rear leaf was cracked.
As long as you live in a place where you don't have to do an annual
safety as part of the smog testing, then yes I think it worth it, but
it also depends on the condition of the rest of the vehicle. In the
case I would do it even with it only having a 4 banger.
Snow...
last summer both rockers were missing, gas tank couldn't more then
about 2 litres, all four shocks were toast, one rear leaf was cracked.
As long as you live in a place where you don't have to do an annual
safety as part of the smog testing, then yes I think it worth it, but
it also depends on the condition of the rest of the vehicle. In the
case I would do it even with it only having a 4 banger.
Snow...
02-27-2007, 09:36 AM
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Re: Is it worth it?
jerryg wrote:
>
> No I bought the whole vehicle. Engine already installed. No info
> regarding that. I did not realize that the underside was shot. It has
> a new set of BFG 30x9.5 all terrains that I am going to take. Also got
> a full set of factory manuals with it. I think I'm going to part it
> out. Axles are good, trans is good, xfer case is good. Hopefully I can
> recoup some of the 900.00 I paid for it!! It is too bad cause the body
> is in great shape. It looks really nice.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
What I'd look at is the average retail cost of an XJ like you have that
does NOT have a rotted floor. If it's considerably more just weld in
the new floor and either drive it like you intended or sell it and make
some money.
I bought a '94 with a "cracked head" that turned out to be a leaky water
pump for $450. The floor was gone from firewall to back bumper but I
bought a 4x8 sheet of 16 gauge, cut it all out with a hand grinder and
welded it in my self-cut floor panels. Some primer, paint, and
undercoat and it's good to go body wise. All told I've got about
$1100.00 in it including new tires, factory rims, radiator, A/C
compressor, shocks, brakes, misc. etcs. I did all the labor but the
mechanicals were the easiest parts. The floor pan wasn't all that hard
but it was the most time consuming.
It all depends on what you want to do with it and how much of your time
and effort you can afford to invest.
>
> No I bought the whole vehicle. Engine already installed. No info
> regarding that. I did not realize that the underside was shot. It has
> a new set of BFG 30x9.5 all terrains that I am going to take. Also got
> a full set of factory manuals with it. I think I'm going to part it
> out. Axles are good, trans is good, xfer case is good. Hopefully I can
> recoup some of the 900.00 I paid for it!! It is too bad cause the body
> is in great shape. It looks really nice.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
What I'd look at is the average retail cost of an XJ like you have that
does NOT have a rotted floor. If it's considerably more just weld in
the new floor and either drive it like you intended or sell it and make
some money.
I bought a '94 with a "cracked head" that turned out to be a leaky water
pump for $450. The floor was gone from firewall to back bumper but I
bought a 4x8 sheet of 16 gauge, cut it all out with a hand grinder and
welded it in my self-cut floor panels. Some primer, paint, and
undercoat and it's good to go body wise. All told I've got about
$1100.00 in it including new tires, factory rims, radiator, A/C
compressor, shocks, brakes, misc. etcs. I did all the labor but the
mechanicals were the easiest parts. The floor pan wasn't all that hard
but it was the most time consuming.
It all depends on what you want to do with it and how much of your time
and effort you can afford to invest.
02-27-2007, 09:36 AM
#57
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Re: Is it worth it?
jerryg wrote:
>
> No I bought the whole vehicle. Engine already installed. No info
> regarding that. I did not realize that the underside was shot. It has
> a new set of BFG 30x9.5 all terrains that I am going to take. Also got
> a full set of factory manuals with it. I think I'm going to part it
> out. Axles are good, trans is good, xfer case is good. Hopefully I can
> recoup some of the 900.00 I paid for it!! It is too bad cause the body
> is in great shape. It looks really nice.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
What I'd look at is the average retail cost of an XJ like you have that
does NOT have a rotted floor. If it's considerably more just weld in
the new floor and either drive it like you intended or sell it and make
some money.
I bought a '94 with a "cracked head" that turned out to be a leaky water
pump for $450. The floor was gone from firewall to back bumper but I
bought a 4x8 sheet of 16 gauge, cut it all out with a hand grinder and
welded it in my self-cut floor panels. Some primer, paint, and
undercoat and it's good to go body wise. All told I've got about
$1100.00 in it including new tires, factory rims, radiator, A/C
compressor, shocks, brakes, misc. etcs. I did all the labor but the
mechanicals were the easiest parts. The floor pan wasn't all that hard
but it was the most time consuming.
It all depends on what you want to do with it and how much of your time
and effort you can afford to invest.
>
> No I bought the whole vehicle. Engine already installed. No info
> regarding that. I did not realize that the underside was shot. It has
> a new set of BFG 30x9.5 all terrains that I am going to take. Also got
> a full set of factory manuals with it. I think I'm going to part it
> out. Axles are good, trans is good, xfer case is good. Hopefully I can
> recoup some of the 900.00 I paid for it!! It is too bad cause the body
> is in great shape. It looks really nice.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
What I'd look at is the average retail cost of an XJ like you have that
does NOT have a rotted floor. If it's considerably more just weld in
the new floor and either drive it like you intended or sell it and make
some money.
I bought a '94 with a "cracked head" that turned out to be a leaky water
pump for $450. The floor was gone from firewall to back bumper but I
bought a 4x8 sheet of 16 gauge, cut it all out with a hand grinder and
welded it in my self-cut floor panels. Some primer, paint, and
undercoat and it's good to go body wise. All told I've got about
$1100.00 in it including new tires, factory rims, radiator, A/C
compressor, shocks, brakes, misc. etcs. I did all the labor but the
mechanicals were the easiest parts. The floor pan wasn't all that hard
but it was the most time consuming.
It all depends on what you want to do with it and how much of your time
and effort you can afford to invest.
02-27-2007, 09:36 AM
#58
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Re: Is it worth it?
jerryg wrote:
>
> No I bought the whole vehicle. Engine already installed. No info
> regarding that. I did not realize that the underside was shot. It has
> a new set of BFG 30x9.5 all terrains that I am going to take. Also got
> a full set of factory manuals with it. I think I'm going to part it
> out. Axles are good, trans is good, xfer case is good. Hopefully I can
> recoup some of the 900.00 I paid for it!! It is too bad cause the body
> is in great shape. It looks really nice.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
What I'd look at is the average retail cost of an XJ like you have that
does NOT have a rotted floor. If it's considerably more just weld in
the new floor and either drive it like you intended or sell it and make
some money.
I bought a '94 with a "cracked head" that turned out to be a leaky water
pump for $450. The floor was gone from firewall to back bumper but I
bought a 4x8 sheet of 16 gauge, cut it all out with a hand grinder and
welded it in my self-cut floor panels. Some primer, paint, and
undercoat and it's good to go body wise. All told I've got about
$1100.00 in it including new tires, factory rims, radiator, A/C
compressor, shocks, brakes, misc. etcs. I did all the labor but the
mechanicals were the easiest parts. The floor pan wasn't all that hard
but it was the most time consuming.
It all depends on what you want to do with it and how much of your time
and effort you can afford to invest.
>
> No I bought the whole vehicle. Engine already installed. No info
> regarding that. I did not realize that the underside was shot. It has
> a new set of BFG 30x9.5 all terrains that I am going to take. Also got
> a full set of factory manuals with it. I think I'm going to part it
> out. Axles are good, trans is good, xfer case is good. Hopefully I can
> recoup some of the 900.00 I paid for it!! It is too bad cause the body
> is in great shape. It looks really nice.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
What I'd look at is the average retail cost of an XJ like you have that
does NOT have a rotted floor. If it's considerably more just weld in
the new floor and either drive it like you intended or sell it and make
some money.
I bought a '94 with a "cracked head" that turned out to be a leaky water
pump for $450. The floor was gone from firewall to back bumper but I
bought a 4x8 sheet of 16 gauge, cut it all out with a hand grinder and
welded it in my self-cut floor panels. Some primer, paint, and
undercoat and it's good to go body wise. All told I've got about
$1100.00 in it including new tires, factory rims, radiator, A/C
compressor, shocks, brakes, misc. etcs. I did all the labor but the
mechanicals were the easiest parts. The floor pan wasn't all that hard
but it was the most time consuming.
It all depends on what you want to do with it and how much of your time
and effort you can afford to invest.
02-27-2007, 10:34 AM
#59
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Re: Is it worth it?
Snow wrote:
> Hey that floor out lasted the rest of the JeeP. When I got rid of it
> last summer both rockers were missing, gas tank couldn't more then
> about 2 litres, all four shocks were toast, one rear leaf was cracked.
>
>
> As long as you live in a place where you don't have to do an annual
> safety as part of the smog testing, then yes I think it worth it, but
> it also depends on the condition of the rest of the vehicle. In the
> case I would do it even with it only having a 4 banger.
>
> Snow...
>
I'll second Snow's opinion.
You can even use fiberglass matting and rosin to patch the floors up
because it does have a 'frame' under there for stiffness. I have used
duct tape, the real metal stuff and the soft stuff, to cover the gaping
holes, then applied the glass mat over top and had that repair pass
vehicle safety inspections on 'many' different vehicles with no comments
other than a real hard thump on the area by the inspector to make sure
it was a 'solid' repair.
Our 88 currently has plywood for the drivers side floor. I am going to
retire it though and maybe put my 87 that still has floors on the road
if the city will give me enough time to swap the parts. Both need full
clutch systems though... :-( (got a new apartment building up across
the street and they 'really, really' don't like my rust bucket driveway
beaters. The complaints are flying fast and furious. I am thinking on
painting the one fingered salute on my garage door...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> Hey that floor out lasted the rest of the JeeP. When I got rid of it
> last summer both rockers were missing, gas tank couldn't more then
> about 2 litres, all four shocks were toast, one rear leaf was cracked.
>
>
> As long as you live in a place where you don't have to do an annual
> safety as part of the smog testing, then yes I think it worth it, but
> it also depends on the condition of the rest of the vehicle. In the
> case I would do it even with it only having a 4 banger.
>
> Snow...
>
I'll second Snow's opinion.
You can even use fiberglass matting and rosin to patch the floors up
because it does have a 'frame' under there for stiffness. I have used
duct tape, the real metal stuff and the soft stuff, to cover the gaping
holes, then applied the glass mat over top and had that repair pass
vehicle safety inspections on 'many' different vehicles with no comments
other than a real hard thump on the area by the inspector to make sure
it was a 'solid' repair.
Our 88 currently has plywood for the drivers side floor. I am going to
retire it though and maybe put my 87 that still has floors on the road
if the city will give me enough time to swap the parts. Both need full
clutch systems though... :-( (got a new apartment building up across
the street and they 'really, really' don't like my rust bucket driveway
beaters. The complaints are flying fast and furious. I am thinking on
painting the one fingered salute on my garage door...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
02-27-2007, 10:34 AM
#60
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Re: Is it worth it?
Snow wrote:
> Hey that floor out lasted the rest of the JeeP. When I got rid of it
> last summer both rockers were missing, gas tank couldn't more then
> about 2 litres, all four shocks were toast, one rear leaf was cracked.
>
>
> As long as you live in a place where you don't have to do an annual
> safety as part of the smog testing, then yes I think it worth it, but
> it also depends on the condition of the rest of the vehicle. In the
> case I would do it even with it only having a 4 banger.
>
> Snow...
>
I'll second Snow's opinion.
You can even use fiberglass matting and rosin to patch the floors up
because it does have a 'frame' under there for stiffness. I have used
duct tape, the real metal stuff and the soft stuff, to cover the gaping
holes, then applied the glass mat over top and had that repair pass
vehicle safety inspections on 'many' different vehicles with no comments
other than a real hard thump on the area by the inspector to make sure
it was a 'solid' repair.
Our 88 currently has plywood for the drivers side floor. I am going to
retire it though and maybe put my 87 that still has floors on the road
if the city will give me enough time to swap the parts. Both need full
clutch systems though... :-( (got a new apartment building up across
the street and they 'really, really' don't like my rust bucket driveway
beaters. The complaints are flying fast and furious. I am thinking on
painting the one fingered salute on my garage door...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> Hey that floor out lasted the rest of the JeeP. When I got rid of it
> last summer both rockers were missing, gas tank couldn't more then
> about 2 litres, all four shocks were toast, one rear leaf was cracked.
>
>
> As long as you live in a place where you don't have to do an annual
> safety as part of the smog testing, then yes I think it worth it, but
> it also depends on the condition of the rest of the vehicle. In the
> case I would do it even with it only having a 4 banger.
>
> Snow...
>
I'll second Snow's opinion.
You can even use fiberglass matting and rosin to patch the floors up
because it does have a 'frame' under there for stiffness. I have used
duct tape, the real metal stuff and the soft stuff, to cover the gaping
holes, then applied the glass mat over top and had that repair pass
vehicle safety inspections on 'many' different vehicles with no comments
other than a real hard thump on the area by the inspector to make sure
it was a 'solid' repair.
Our 88 currently has plywood for the drivers side floor. I am going to
retire it though and maybe put my 87 that still has floors on the road
if the city will give me enough time to swap the parts. Both need full
clutch systems though... :-( (got a new apartment building up across
the street and they 'really, really' don't like my rust bucket driveway
beaters. The complaints are flying fast and furious. I am thinking on
painting the one fingered salute on my garage door...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)