Wobble
06-16-2004, 11:22 PM
#1
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Wobble
1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying to
start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big time.
Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped. However, I
can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these days
the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop says
they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by reducing
any looseness in suspension.
It is a puzzlement.
started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying to
start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big time.
Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped. However, I
can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these days
the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop says
they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by reducing
any looseness in suspension.
It is a puzzlement.
06-17-2004, 12:16 AM
#2
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Re: Wobble
Did the alignment dude give you a printout? What is your total caster? If
you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a steering
stabilizer could be in your future.
Juice
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
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> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a steering
stabilizer could be in your future.
Juice
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
06-17-2004, 12:16 AM
#3
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Re: Wobble
Did the alignment dude give you a printout? What is your total caster? If
you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a steering
stabilizer could be in your future.
Juice
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a steering
stabilizer could be in your future.
Juice
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
06-17-2004, 12:16 AM
#4
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Re: Wobble
Did the alignment dude give you a printout? What is your total caster? If
you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a steering
stabilizer could be in your future.
Juice
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a steering
stabilizer could be in your future.
Juice
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
06-17-2004, 12:16 AM
#5
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Re: Wobble
Did the alignment dude give you a printout? What is your total caster? If
you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a steering
stabilizer could be in your future.
Juice
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a steering
stabilizer could be in your future.
Juice
"Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying
to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
06-17-2004, 12:27 AM
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Re: Wobble
Caster angle shouldn't even be below 5.5 degrees, let alone zero. For a 2"
lift, Caster should actually be between 6 and 7 degrees of Caster angle.
Are you thinking toe-in?
Jerry
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"Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net> wrote in message
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> Did the alignment dude give you a printout? What is your total caster?
If
> you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a
steering
> stabilizer could be in your future.
>
>
> Juice
>
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
>
>
lift, Caster should actually be between 6 and 7 degrees of Caster angle.
Are you thinking toe-in?
Jerry
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"Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net> wrote in message
news:40d119e1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Did the alignment dude give you a printout? What is your total caster?
If
> you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a
steering
> stabilizer could be in your future.
>
>
> Juice
>
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
>
>
06-17-2004, 12:27 AM
#7
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Re: Wobble
Caster angle shouldn't even be below 5.5 degrees, let alone zero. For a 2"
lift, Caster should actually be between 6 and 7 degrees of Caster angle.
Are you thinking toe-in?
Jerry
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"Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net> wrote in message
news:40d119e1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Did the alignment dude give you a printout? What is your total caster?
If
> you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a
steering
> stabilizer could be in your future.
>
>
> Juice
>
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
>
>
lift, Caster should actually be between 6 and 7 degrees of Caster angle.
Are you thinking toe-in?
Jerry
--
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"Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net> wrote in message
news:40d119e1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Did the alignment dude give you a printout? What is your total caster?
If
> you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a
steering
> stabilizer could be in your future.
>
>
> Juice
>
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
>
>
06-17-2004, 12:27 AM
#8
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Re: Wobble
Caster angle shouldn't even be below 5.5 degrees, let alone zero. For a 2"
lift, Caster should actually be between 6 and 7 degrees of Caster angle.
Are you thinking toe-in?
Jerry
--
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"Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net> wrote in message
news:40d119e1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Did the alignment dude give you a printout? What is your total caster?
If
> you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a
steering
> stabilizer could be in your future.
>
>
> Juice
>
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
>
>
lift, Caster should actually be between 6 and 7 degrees of Caster angle.
Are you thinking toe-in?
Jerry
--
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"Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net> wrote in message
news:40d119e1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Did the alignment dude give you a printout? What is your total caster?
If
> you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a
steering
> stabilizer could be in your future.
>
>
> Juice
>
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
>
>
06-17-2004, 12:27 AM
#9
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Re: Wobble
Caster angle shouldn't even be below 5.5 degrees, let alone zero. For a 2"
lift, Caster should actually be between 6 and 7 degrees of Caster angle.
Are you thinking toe-in?
Jerry
--
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"Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net> wrote in message
news:40d119e1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Did the alignment dude give you a printout? What is your total caster?
If
> you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a
steering
> stabilizer could be in your future.
>
>
> Juice
>
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
>
>
lift, Caster should actually be between 6 and 7 degrees of Caster angle.
Are you thinking toe-in?
Jerry
--
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"Jerry Newton" <leaveme@lone.net> wrote in message
news:40d119e1$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Did the alignment dude give you a printout? What is your total caster?
If
> you are near zero, or below zero, that is a problem. Otherwise, a
steering
> stabilizer could be in your future.
>
>
> Juice
>
>
> "Trust5280" <trust5280@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040616232216.16562.00000083@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death
wobble
> > started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble
trying
> to
> > start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big
> time.
> > Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped.
> However, I
> > can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these
> days
> > the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop
> says
> > they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
> >
> > Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by
> reducing
> > any looseness in suspension.
> >
> > It is a puzzlement.
>
>
06-17-2004, 12:54 AM
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Re: Wobble
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Trust5280 wrote:
>
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped. However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.
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Trust5280 wrote:
>
> 1999 Tj with a 2" Tera Flex lift. After a Moab trip terrible death wobble
> started at about 45 MPH. Replaced the track bar. Could feel wobble trying to
> start in steering wheel. After about 20 miles death wobble came back big time.
> Swithched from 30" stock tires to offset 32" MTR's. Wobble stopped. However, I
> can still feel the wobble trying to get started at 45 MPH. One of these days
> the wobble will win again. Alignment has been checked. Four wheel shop says
> they can't find any reason. Track bar is in good shape.
>
> Any opinion on whether changing to Tera Flex swing arms will help by reducing
> any looseness in suspension.
>
> It is a puzzlement.