Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
02-13-2007, 10:24 PM
#41
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Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
around in neutral!
down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
around in neutral!
02-13-2007, 11:46 PM
#42
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Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
Its not a big deal to do it at slow speeds in 2hi on the street or for short
stretches. Definately a bad idea in 4LO or on the highway.
Carl
<Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
> down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
> clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
> cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
> approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
> hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
> around in neutral!
>
stretches. Definately a bad idea in 4LO or on the highway.
Carl
<Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171423452.251918.241730@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
> down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
> clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
> cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
> approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
> hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
> around in neutral!
>
02-13-2007, 11:46 PM
#43
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Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
Its not a big deal to do it at slow speeds in 2hi on the street or for short
stretches. Definately a bad idea in 4LO or on the highway.
Carl
<Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171423452.251918.241730@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
> down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
> clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
> cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
> approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
> hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
> around in neutral!
>
stretches. Definately a bad idea in 4LO or on the highway.
Carl
<Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171423452.251918.241730@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
> down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
> clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
> cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
> approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
> hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
> around in neutral!
>
02-13-2007, 11:46 PM
#44
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Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
Its not a big deal to do it at slow speeds in 2hi on the street or for short
stretches. Definately a bad idea in 4LO or on the highway.
Carl
<Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171423452.251918.241730@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
> down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
> clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
> cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
> approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
> hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
> around in neutral!
>
stretches. Definately a bad idea in 4LO or on the highway.
Carl
<Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171423452.251918.241730@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
> down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
> clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
> cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
> approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
> hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
> around in neutral!
>
02-13-2007, 11:46 PM
#45
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Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
Its not a big deal to do it at slow speeds in 2hi on the street or for short
stretches. Definately a bad idea in 4LO or on the highway.
Carl
<Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171423452.251918.241730@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
> down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
> clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
> cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
> approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
> hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
> around in neutral!
>
stretches. Definately a bad idea in 4LO or on the highway.
Carl
<Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171423452.251918.241730@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
> WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
> down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
> clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
> cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
> approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
> hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
> around in neutral!
>
02-14-2007, 10:00 AM
#50
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Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
When you are 'floating' along with no acceleration or deceleration it
doesn't matter if you have an auto or a standard, you are still just
floating along.
Not the use of the word 'floating'.
When you are under any deceleration, the torque load has to happen
because the driveshaft is turning the tranny which in turn is trying to
turn the engine. It doesn't take much to push the wear spot against one
side of the part to tighten it up.
That is also one reason some folks like standards so much better than
automatics, for the better 'feel' you have when slowing down or using
the gears.
Mike
Dave Milne wrote:
> While I totally agree its a stupid idea to coast in neutral, I don't buy
> your argument - automatic transmissions effectively coast on the overrun.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>>> When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
>>> just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
>>> wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod
> ends,
>>> etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>>>
>>> When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
>>> things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>
>
doesn't matter if you have an auto or a standard, you are still just
floating along.
Not the use of the word 'floating'.
When you are under any deceleration, the torque load has to happen
because the driveshaft is turning the tranny which in turn is trying to
turn the engine. It doesn't take much to push the wear spot against one
side of the part to tighten it up.
That is also one reason some folks like standards so much better than
automatics, for the better 'feel' you have when slowing down or using
the gears.
Mike
Dave Milne wrote:
> While I totally agree its a stupid idea to coast in neutral, I don't buy
> your argument - automatic transmissions effectively coast on the overrun.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>>> When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
>>> just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
>>> wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod
> ends,
>>> etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>>>
>>> When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
>>> things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
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