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Thoth1126@gmail.com 02-12-2007 08:51 PM

Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/coasting.htm


jbjeep 02-12-2007 10:23 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
I dont get it...why would you want to coast downhill (accellerate) for any distance
with the clutch pushed in??
-jenn



On 12 Feb 2007 17:51:28 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:

>>http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/coasting.htm


jbjeep 02-12-2007 10:23 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
I dont get it...why would you want to coast downhill (accellerate) for any distance
with the clutch pushed in??
-jenn



On 12 Feb 2007 17:51:28 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:

>>http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/coasting.htm


jbjeep 02-12-2007 10:23 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
I dont get it...why would you want to coast downhill (accellerate) for any distance
with the clutch pushed in??
-jenn



On 12 Feb 2007 17:51:28 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:

>>http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/coasting.htm


jbjeep 02-12-2007 10:23 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
I dont get it...why would you want to coast downhill (accellerate) for any distance
with the clutch pushed in??
-jenn



On 12 Feb 2007 17:51:28 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:

>>http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/coasting.htm


Carl S 02-12-2007 10:43 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Me either. If I was going that far or over around 10mph, I would shift back
into 4hi and keep 'er in 2nd or 3rd.

Carl


"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:0nb2t25eeqrdqacclt56aqpggdiltclfjn@4ax.com...
>I dont get it...why would you want to coast downhill (accellerate) for any
>distance
> with the clutch pushed in??
> -jenn
>
>
>
> On 12 Feb 2007 17:51:28 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>>http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/coasting.htm




Carl S 02-12-2007 10:43 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Me either. If I was going that far or over around 10mph, I would shift back
into 4hi and keep 'er in 2nd or 3rd.

Carl


"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:0nb2t25eeqrdqacclt56aqpggdiltclfjn@4ax.com...
>I dont get it...why would you want to coast downhill (accellerate) for any
>distance
> with the clutch pushed in??
> -jenn
>
>
>
> On 12 Feb 2007 17:51:28 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>>http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/coasting.htm




Carl S 02-12-2007 10:43 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Me either. If I was going that far or over around 10mph, I would shift back
into 4hi and keep 'er in 2nd or 3rd.

Carl


"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:0nb2t25eeqrdqacclt56aqpggdiltclfjn@4ax.com...
>I dont get it...why would you want to coast downhill (accellerate) for any
>distance
> with the clutch pushed in??
> -jenn
>
>
>
> On 12 Feb 2007 17:51:28 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>>http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/coasting.htm




Carl S 02-12-2007 10:43 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Me either. If I was going that far or over around 10mph, I would shift back
into 4hi and keep 'er in 2nd or 3rd.

Carl


"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:0nb2t25eeqrdqacclt56aqpggdiltclfjn@4ax.com...
>I dont get it...why would you want to coast downhill (accellerate) for any
>distance
> with the clutch pushed in??
> -jenn
>
>
>
> On 12 Feb 2007 17:51:28 -0800, Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>>http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/coasting.htm




Thoth1126@gmail.com 02-13-2007 08:15 AM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.


Thoth1126@gmail.com 02-13-2007 08:15 AM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.


Thoth1126@gmail.com 02-13-2007 08:15 AM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.


Thoth1126@gmail.com 02-13-2007 08:15 AM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.


Mike Romain 02-13-2007 10:05 AM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>


How to die in one easy lesson....

Seriously....

There 'are' reasons it is illegal to coast downhill in neutral and they
go triple for a short wheelbased Jeep.

When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod
ends, etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.

When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 02-13-2007 10:05 AM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>


How to die in one easy lesson....

Seriously....

There 'are' reasons it is illegal to coast downhill in neutral and they
go triple for a short wheelbased Jeep.

When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod
ends, etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.

When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 02-13-2007 10:05 AM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>


How to die in one easy lesson....

Seriously....

There 'are' reasons it is illegal to coast downhill in neutral and they
go triple for a short wheelbased Jeep.

When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod
ends, etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.

When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 02-13-2007 10:05 AM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>


How to die in one easy lesson....

Seriously....

There 'are' reasons it is illegal to coast downhill in neutral and they
go triple for a short wheelbased Jeep.

When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod
ends, etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.

When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Carl S 02-13-2007 03:19 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Also, when you keep the clutch engaged the RPM of the clutch will not exceed
the RPM of the engine. If you simply must coast with the engine disengaged,
take it out of gear and leave the clutch in. It's still a bad idea, though.

You can bet that if that guy had engaged the clutch before it blew while at
speed he would have been buying a new motor, too.

Carl


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45d1d339$0$6392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>>

>
> How to die in one easy lesson....
>
> Seriously....
>
> There 'are' reasons it is illegal to coast downhill in neutral and they go
> triple for a short wheelbased Jeep.
>
> When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
> just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
> wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod ends,
> etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>
> When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
> things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)




Carl S 02-13-2007 03:19 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Also, when you keep the clutch engaged the RPM of the clutch will not exceed
the RPM of the engine. If you simply must coast with the engine disengaged,
take it out of gear and leave the clutch in. It's still a bad idea, though.

You can bet that if that guy had engaged the clutch before it blew while at
speed he would have been buying a new motor, too.

Carl


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45d1d339$0$6392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>>

>
> How to die in one easy lesson....
>
> Seriously....
>
> There 'are' reasons it is illegal to coast downhill in neutral and they go
> triple for a short wheelbased Jeep.
>
> When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
> just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
> wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod ends,
> etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>
> When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
> things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)




Carl S 02-13-2007 03:19 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Also, when you keep the clutch engaged the RPM of the clutch will not exceed
the RPM of the engine. If you simply must coast with the engine disengaged,
take it out of gear and leave the clutch in. It's still a bad idea, though.

You can bet that if that guy had engaged the clutch before it blew while at
speed he would have been buying a new motor, too.

Carl


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45d1d339$0$6392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>>

>
> How to die in one easy lesson....
>
> Seriously....
>
> There 'are' reasons it is illegal to coast downhill in neutral and they go
> triple for a short wheelbased Jeep.
>
> When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
> just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
> wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod ends,
> etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>
> When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
> things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)




Carl S 02-13-2007 03:19 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Also, when you keep the clutch engaged the RPM of the clutch will not exceed
the RPM of the engine. If you simply must coast with the engine disengaged,
take it out of gear and leave the clutch in. It's still a bad idea, though.

You can bet that if that guy had engaged the clutch before it blew while at
speed he would have been buying a new motor, too.

Carl


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45d1d339$0$6392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>>

>
> How to die in one easy lesson....
>
> Seriously....
>
> There 'are' reasons it is illegal to coast downhill in neutral and they go
> triple for a short wheelbased Jeep.
>
> When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
> just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
> wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod ends,
> etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>
> When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
> things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)




Carl S 02-13-2007 03:56 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Correction, I meant engaged, not in.

Carl


"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tJidnc4Cj4nbgE_YnZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Also, when you keep the clutch engaged the RPM of the clutch will not
> exceed the RPM of the engine. If you simply must coast with the engine
> disengaged, take it out of gear and leave the clutch in. It's still a bad
> idea, though.
>
> You can bet that if that guy had engaged the clutch before it blew while
> at speed he would have been buying a new motor, too.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45d1d339$0$6392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>>> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>>>

>>
>> How to die in one easy lesson....
>>
>> Seriously....
>>
>> There 'are' reasons it is illegal to coast downhill in neutral and they
>> go triple for a short wheelbased Jeep.
>>
>> When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
>> just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
>> wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod
>> ends, etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>>
>> When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
>> things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>




Carl S 02-13-2007 03:56 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Correction, I meant engaged, not in.

Carl


"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tJidnc4Cj4nbgE_YnZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Also, when you keep the clutch engaged the RPM of the clutch will not
> exceed the RPM of the engine. If you simply must coast with the engine
> disengaged, take it out of gear and leave the clutch in. It's still a bad
> idea, though.
>
> You can bet that if that guy had engaged the clutch before it blew while
> at speed he would have been buying a new motor, too.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45d1d339$0$6392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>>> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>>>

>>
>> How to die in one easy lesson....
>>
>> Seriously....
>>
>> There 'are' reasons it is illegal to coast downhill in neutral and they
>> go triple for a short wheelbased Jeep.
>>
>> When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
>> just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
>> wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod
>> ends, etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>>
>> When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
>> things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>




Carl S 02-13-2007 03:56 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Correction, I meant engaged, not in.

Carl


"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tJidnc4Cj4nbgE_YnZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Also, when you keep the clutch engaged the RPM of the clutch will not
> exceed the RPM of the engine. If you simply must coast with the engine
> disengaged, take it out of gear and leave the clutch in. It's still a bad
> idea, though.
>
> You can bet that if that guy had engaged the clutch before it blew while
> at speed he would have been buying a new motor, too.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45d1d339$0$6392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>>> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>>>

>>
>> How to die in one easy lesson....
>>
>> Seriously....
>>
>> There 'are' reasons it is illegal to coast downhill in neutral and they
>> go triple for a short wheelbased Jeep.
>>
>> When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
>> just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
>> wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod
>> ends, etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>>
>> When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
>> things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>




Carl S 02-13-2007 03:56 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
Correction, I meant engaged, not in.

Carl


"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tJidnc4Cj4nbgE_YnZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Also, when you keep the clutch engaged the RPM of the clutch will not
> exceed the RPM of the engine. If you simply must coast with the engine
> disengaged, take it out of gear and leave the clutch in. It's still a bad
> idea, though.
>
> You can bet that if that guy had engaged the clutch before it blew while
> at speed he would have been buying a new motor, too.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:45d1d339$0$6392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
>>> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>>>

>>
>> How to die in one easy lesson....
>>
>> Seriously....
>>
>> There 'are' reasons it is illegal to coast downhill in neutral and they
>> go triple for a short wheelbased Jeep.
>>
>> When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
>> just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
>> wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod
>> ends, etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>>
>> When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
>> things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>




Dave Milne 02-13-2007 06:11 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
While I totally agree its a stupid idea to coast in neutral, I don't buy
your argument - automatic transmissions effectively coast on the overrun.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

> > When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
> > just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
> > wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod

ends,
> > etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
> >
> > When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
> > things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>




Dave Milne 02-13-2007 06:11 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
While I totally agree its a stupid idea to coast in neutral, I don't buy
your argument - automatic transmissions effectively coast on the overrun.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

> > When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
> > just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
> > wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod

ends,
> > etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
> >
> > When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
> > things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>




Dave Milne 02-13-2007 06:11 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
While I totally agree its a stupid idea to coast in neutral, I don't buy
your argument - automatic transmissions effectively coast on the overrun.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

> > When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
> > just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
> > wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod

ends,
> > etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
> >
> > When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
> > things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>




Dave Milne 02-13-2007 06:11 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
While I totally agree its a stupid idea to coast in neutral, I don't buy
your argument - automatic transmissions effectively coast on the overrun.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

> > When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
> > just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
> > wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod

ends,
> > etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
> >
> > When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that keeps
> > things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 02-13-2007 06:19 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
To me it's a safety issue...coasting with clutch disengaged or in neutral
means you aren't in full control of the vehicle.

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:aArAh.268864$QY6.267409@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> While I totally agree its a stupid idea to coast in neutral, I don't buy
> your argument - automatic transmissions effectively coast on the overrun.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>> > When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
>> > just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
>> > wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod

> ends,
>> > etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>> >
>> > When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that
>> > keeps
>> > things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>>
>>

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 02-13-2007 06:19 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
To me it's a safety issue...coasting with clutch disengaged or in neutral
means you aren't in full control of the vehicle.

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:aArAh.268864$QY6.267409@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> While I totally agree its a stupid idea to coast in neutral, I don't buy
> your argument - automatic transmissions effectively coast on the overrun.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>> > When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
>> > just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
>> > wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod

> ends,
>> > etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>> >
>> > When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that
>> > keeps
>> > things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>>
>>

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 02-13-2007 06:19 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
To me it's a safety issue...coasting with clutch disengaged or in neutral
means you aren't in full control of the vehicle.

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:aArAh.268864$QY6.267409@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> While I totally agree its a stupid idea to coast in neutral, I don't buy
> your argument - automatic transmissions effectively coast on the overrun.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>> > When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
>> > just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
>> > wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod

> ends,
>> > etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>> >
>> > When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that
>> > keeps
>> > things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>>
>>

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 02-13-2007 06:19 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
To me it's a safety issue...coasting with clutch disengaged or in neutral
means you aren't in full control of the vehicle.

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:aArAh.268864$QY6.267409@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> While I totally agree its a stupid idea to coast in neutral, I don't buy
> your argument - automatic transmissions effectively coast on the overrun.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>> > When you coast in neutral, it unloads the suspension making everything
>> > just flop around loose. This can translate to marginal wear that you
>> > wouldn't normally notice in say shackles, springs, bushings, tie rod

> ends,
>> > etc all adding up to give a serious loss of control.
>> >
>> > When you are in gear, all these parts get under a torque load that
>> > keeps
>> > things at one side of their wear pattern which keeps it stable.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>>
>>

>
>




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-13-2007 07:29 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
That's called Mexican overdrive out here, and as illegal as most of Los
Angeles: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc21710.htm
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<Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-13-2007 07:29 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
That's called Mexican overdrive out here, and as illegal as most of Los
Angeles: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc21710.htm
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<Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-13-2007 07:29 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
That's called Mexican overdrive out here, and as illegal as most of Los
Angeles: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc21710.htm
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

<Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-13-2007 07:29 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
That's called Mexican overdrive out here, and as illegal as most of Los
Angeles: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc21710.htm
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

<Thoth1126@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> When i coast I slap her in Neutral and let the clutch out.
>




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Thoth1126@gmail.com 02-13-2007 10:24 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
around in neutral!


Thoth1126@gmail.com 02-13-2007 10:24 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
around in neutral!


Thoth1126@gmail.com 02-13-2007 10:24 PM

Re: Woah.. worth a read esp modded gear people
 
WOW I had no idea. I don't do it for long stretches - If I'm going
down a driveway or parking lot I tend to put it in neutral, push the
clutch in, and wait till I know what gear I'll need. If there are no
cars at the bottom of the small incline - 2nd, and if a car
approaches, 1st. I'm always in 5th on the highway even down steep
hills. Thanks for the xtra info. Sorry for making you think I ride
around in neutral!



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