Winter Grill Inserts?
#71
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Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote ...
> -jc wrote:
> >
> > Keeping an eye on your gauges should keep you from overheating the
engine.
> > Never was an issue for the 8-10 years I did it.
>
> These vehicles had idiot lights that only flag a boil over. One GMC 350
> blew the top rad hose 10 seconds after the damn light came on when I
> went from -25C to 0C in an hour's time on the highway. (older hose, but
> still...)
This would present an issue. Don't cover any bit of your grill without the
proper gauges to monitor the effectiveness. You really should have known
better. ;-)
--
- Jeff
- ........................ then again, what do I know.
> -jc wrote:
> >
> > Keeping an eye on your gauges should keep you from overheating the
engine.
> > Never was an issue for the 8-10 years I did it.
>
> These vehicles had idiot lights that only flag a boil over. One GMC 350
> blew the top rad hose 10 seconds after the damn light came on when I
> went from -25C to 0C in an hour's time on the highway. (older hose, but
> still...)
This would present an issue. Don't cover any bit of your grill without the
proper gauges to monitor the effectiveness. You really should have known
better. ;-)
--
- Jeff
- ........................ then again, what do I know.
#72
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Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote ...
> -jc wrote:
> >
> > Keeping an eye on your gauges should keep you from overheating the
engine.
> > Never was an issue for the 8-10 years I did it.
>
> These vehicles had idiot lights that only flag a boil over. One GMC 350
> blew the top rad hose 10 seconds after the damn light came on when I
> went from -25C to 0C in an hour's time on the highway. (older hose, but
> still...)
This would present an issue. Don't cover any bit of your grill without the
proper gauges to monitor the effectiveness. You really should have known
better. ;-)
--
- Jeff
- ........................ then again, what do I know.
> -jc wrote:
> >
> > Keeping an eye on your gauges should keep you from overheating the
engine.
> > Never was an issue for the 8-10 years I did it.
>
> These vehicles had idiot lights that only flag a boil over. One GMC 350
> blew the top rad hose 10 seconds after the damn light came on when I
> went from -25C to 0C in an hour's time on the highway. (older hose, but
> still...)
This would present an issue. Don't cover any bit of your grill without the
proper gauges to monitor the effectiveness. You really should have known
better. ;-)
--
- Jeff
- ........................ then again, what do I know.
#73
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Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote ...
> -jc wrote:
> >
> > Keeping an eye on your gauges should keep you from overheating the
engine.
> > Never was an issue for the 8-10 years I did it.
>
> These vehicles had idiot lights that only flag a boil over. One GMC 350
> blew the top rad hose 10 seconds after the damn light came on when I
> went from -25C to 0C in an hour's time on the highway. (older hose, but
> still...)
This would present an issue. Don't cover any bit of your grill without the
proper gauges to monitor the effectiveness. You really should have known
better. ;-)
--
- Jeff
- ........................ then again, what do I know.
> -jc wrote:
> >
> > Keeping an eye on your gauges should keep you from overheating the
engine.
> > Never was an issue for the 8-10 years I did it.
>
> These vehicles had idiot lights that only flag a boil over. One GMC 350
> blew the top rad hose 10 seconds after the damn light came on when I
> went from -25C to 0C in an hour's time on the highway. (older hose, but
> still...)
This would present an issue. Don't cover any bit of your grill without the
proper gauges to monitor the effectiveness. You really should have known
better. ;-)
--
- Jeff
- ........................ then again, what do I know.
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Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
"Kyonn Gowans" <kyonn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone know where I can order a set of winter grill inserts for a '89 Jeep
> Cherokee? I currently have a set made Lund but one of them is missing and
> the others are in bad shape. I checked Lund's website but couldn't find
> them. Anyone know of a place online that carries them, thanks in advance.
>
>
>
Go to a boat or a detail shop and have them fabricate one out of vinyl with
a Velcro face that has removable sections to fit the front sorta like a bra.
--
HarryS
JAFGBR
news:f0832ab72ef5f2d8e1d43dc5abc67fd8@news.teranew s.com...
> Anyone know where I can order a set of winter grill inserts for a '89 Jeep
> Cherokee? I currently have a set made Lund but one of them is missing and
> the others are in bad shape. I checked Lund's website but couldn't find
> them. Anyone know of a place online that carries them, thanks in advance.
>
>
>
Go to a boat or a detail shop and have them fabricate one out of vinyl with
a Velcro face that has removable sections to fit the front sorta like a bra.
--
HarryS
JAFGBR
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Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
"Kyonn Gowans" <kyonn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f0832ab72ef5f2d8e1d43dc5abc67fd8@news.teranew s.com...
> Anyone know where I can order a set of winter grill inserts for a '89 Jeep
> Cherokee? I currently have a set made Lund but one of them is missing and
> the others are in bad shape. I checked Lund's website but couldn't find
> them. Anyone know of a place online that carries them, thanks in advance.
>
>
>
Go to a boat or a detail shop and have them fabricate one out of vinyl with
a Velcro face that has removable sections to fit the front sorta like a bra.
--
HarryS
JAFGBR
news:f0832ab72ef5f2d8e1d43dc5abc67fd8@news.teranew s.com...
> Anyone know where I can order a set of winter grill inserts for a '89 Jeep
> Cherokee? I currently have a set made Lund but one of them is missing and
> the others are in bad shape. I checked Lund's website but couldn't find
> them. Anyone know of a place online that carries them, thanks in advance.
>
>
>
Go to a boat or a detail shop and have them fabricate one out of vinyl with
a Velcro face that has removable sections to fit the front sorta like a bra.
--
HarryS
JAFGBR
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Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
"Kyonn Gowans" <kyonn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f0832ab72ef5f2d8e1d43dc5abc67fd8@news.teranew s.com...
> Anyone know where I can order a set of winter grill inserts for a '89 Jeep
> Cherokee? I currently have a set made Lund but one of them is missing and
> the others are in bad shape. I checked Lund's website but couldn't find
> them. Anyone know of a place online that carries them, thanks in advance.
>
>
>
Go to a boat or a detail shop and have them fabricate one out of vinyl with
a Velcro face that has removable sections to fit the front sorta like a bra.
--
HarryS
JAFGBR
news:f0832ab72ef5f2d8e1d43dc5abc67fd8@news.teranew s.com...
> Anyone know where I can order a set of winter grill inserts for a '89 Jeep
> Cherokee? I currently have a set made Lund but one of them is missing and
> the others are in bad shape. I checked Lund's website but couldn't find
> them. Anyone know of a place online that carries them, thanks in advance.
>
>
>
Go to a boat or a detail shop and have them fabricate one out of vinyl with
a Velcro face that has removable sections to fit the front sorta like a bra.
--
HarryS
JAFGBR
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Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
When I was much younger, I worked in a Mercedes dealer parts department. I
remember the 190 sedan had an optional device that looked like a window
shade (the roll-up kind) in front of the radiator. It was rolled up from
the bottom with a line that ran inside to the driver and had a ball chain on
the end (like a key chain, only larger) that hooked like the doors on the
old fashioned kitchen exhaust fans. When you released it, it would roll
back down onto the roller. The ball chain allowed you to "lock" it in any
amount of coverage you wanted. It was actually a pretty cool design.
--
Jim
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enough..."
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FD68091.B0D0534E@sympatico.ca...
> I hear you, I lived in the Canadian Rockies for 8 years or so. Nothing
> like a snow storm on Labor Day weekend and having that snow stay for the
> winter...
>
> I saw way too many -30 Halloweens...
>
> Mike
>
> Kyonn Gowans wrote:
> >
> > > I know what you mean. Our 88 is really slow to warm up too. My CJ7
> > > heats up the inside faster....
> >
> > You think you got it bad, I live in Alaska. Last week it got down to
> > negative 40 and that damn thing never got warm. On the positive side my
> > Cherokee is far tougher than most cars, it starts unassited at very low
> > temps (and when I say low I mean LOW)
> >
> > > One thing I found was to let it warm up in the driveway before
starting
> > > out.
> >
> > That's a given in AK
> >
> > > On the highway or running hard or in a fast outside temperature swing,
> > > the engine can overheat.
> >
> > Given where I live I dont think overheating is really a concern. I would
> > only use the grill inserts until spring and then remove 'em.
remember the 190 sedan had an optional device that looked like a window
shade (the roll-up kind) in front of the radiator. It was rolled up from
the bottom with a line that ran inside to the driver and had a ball chain on
the end (like a key chain, only larger) that hooked like the doors on the
old fashioned kitchen exhaust fans. When you released it, it would roll
back down onto the roller. The ball chain allowed you to "lock" it in any
amount of coverage you wanted. It was actually a pretty cool design.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FD68091.B0D0534E@sympatico.ca...
> I hear you, I lived in the Canadian Rockies for 8 years or so. Nothing
> like a snow storm on Labor Day weekend and having that snow stay for the
> winter...
>
> I saw way too many -30 Halloweens...
>
> Mike
>
> Kyonn Gowans wrote:
> >
> > > I know what you mean. Our 88 is really slow to warm up too. My CJ7
> > > heats up the inside faster....
> >
> > You think you got it bad, I live in Alaska. Last week it got down to
> > negative 40 and that damn thing never got warm. On the positive side my
> > Cherokee is far tougher than most cars, it starts unassited at very low
> > temps (and when I say low I mean LOW)
> >
> > > One thing I found was to let it warm up in the driveway before
starting
> > > out.
> >
> > That's a given in AK
> >
> > > On the highway or running hard or in a fast outside temperature swing,
> > > the engine can overheat.
> >
> > Given where I live I dont think overheating is really a concern. I would
> > only use the grill inserts until spring and then remove 'em.
#78
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Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
When I was much younger, I worked in a Mercedes dealer parts department. I
remember the 190 sedan had an optional device that looked like a window
shade (the roll-up kind) in front of the radiator. It was rolled up from
the bottom with a line that ran inside to the driver and had a ball chain on
the end (like a key chain, only larger) that hooked like the doors on the
old fashioned kitchen exhaust fans. When you released it, it would roll
back down onto the roller. The ball chain allowed you to "lock" it in any
amount of coverage you wanted. It was actually a pretty cool design.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FD68091.B0D0534E@sympatico.ca...
> I hear you, I lived in the Canadian Rockies for 8 years or so. Nothing
> like a snow storm on Labor Day weekend and having that snow stay for the
> winter...
>
> I saw way too many -30 Halloweens...
>
> Mike
>
> Kyonn Gowans wrote:
> >
> > > I know what you mean. Our 88 is really slow to warm up too. My CJ7
> > > heats up the inside faster....
> >
> > You think you got it bad, I live in Alaska. Last week it got down to
> > negative 40 and that damn thing never got warm. On the positive side my
> > Cherokee is far tougher than most cars, it starts unassited at very low
> > temps (and when I say low I mean LOW)
> >
> > > One thing I found was to let it warm up in the driveway before
starting
> > > out.
> >
> > That's a given in AK
> >
> > > On the highway or running hard or in a fast outside temperature swing,
> > > the engine can overheat.
> >
> > Given where I live I dont think overheating is really a concern. I would
> > only use the grill inserts until spring and then remove 'em.
remember the 190 sedan had an optional device that looked like a window
shade (the roll-up kind) in front of the radiator. It was rolled up from
the bottom with a line that ran inside to the driver and had a ball chain on
the end (like a key chain, only larger) that hooked like the doors on the
old fashioned kitchen exhaust fans. When you released it, it would roll
back down onto the roller. The ball chain allowed you to "lock" it in any
amount of coverage you wanted. It was actually a pretty cool design.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FD68091.B0D0534E@sympatico.ca...
> I hear you, I lived in the Canadian Rockies for 8 years or so. Nothing
> like a snow storm on Labor Day weekend and having that snow stay for the
> winter...
>
> I saw way too many -30 Halloweens...
>
> Mike
>
> Kyonn Gowans wrote:
> >
> > > I know what you mean. Our 88 is really slow to warm up too. My CJ7
> > > heats up the inside faster....
> >
> > You think you got it bad, I live in Alaska. Last week it got down to
> > negative 40 and that damn thing never got warm. On the positive side my
> > Cherokee is far tougher than most cars, it starts unassited at very low
> > temps (and when I say low I mean LOW)
> >
> > > One thing I found was to let it warm up in the driveway before
starting
> > > out.
> >
> > That's a given in AK
> >
> > > On the highway or running hard or in a fast outside temperature swing,
> > > the engine can overheat.
> >
> > Given where I live I dont think overheating is really a concern. I would
> > only use the grill inserts until spring and then remove 'em.
#79
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Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
When I was much younger, I worked in a Mercedes dealer parts department. I
remember the 190 sedan had an optional device that looked like a window
shade (the roll-up kind) in front of the radiator. It was rolled up from
the bottom with a line that ran inside to the driver and had a ball chain on
the end (like a key chain, only larger) that hooked like the doors on the
old fashioned kitchen exhaust fans. When you released it, it would roll
back down onto the roller. The ball chain allowed you to "lock" it in any
amount of coverage you wanted. It was actually a pretty cool design.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FD68091.B0D0534E@sympatico.ca...
> I hear you, I lived in the Canadian Rockies for 8 years or so. Nothing
> like a snow storm on Labor Day weekend and having that snow stay for the
> winter...
>
> I saw way too many -30 Halloweens...
>
> Mike
>
> Kyonn Gowans wrote:
> >
> > > I know what you mean. Our 88 is really slow to warm up too. My CJ7
> > > heats up the inside faster....
> >
> > You think you got it bad, I live in Alaska. Last week it got down to
> > negative 40 and that damn thing never got warm. On the positive side my
> > Cherokee is far tougher than most cars, it starts unassited at very low
> > temps (and when I say low I mean LOW)
> >
> > > One thing I found was to let it warm up in the driveway before
starting
> > > out.
> >
> > That's a given in AK
> >
> > > On the highway or running hard or in a fast outside temperature swing,
> > > the engine can overheat.
> >
> > Given where I live I dont think overheating is really a concern. I would
> > only use the grill inserts until spring and then remove 'em.
remember the 190 sedan had an optional device that looked like a window
shade (the roll-up kind) in front of the radiator. It was rolled up from
the bottom with a line that ran inside to the driver and had a ball chain on
the end (like a key chain, only larger) that hooked like the doors on the
old fashioned kitchen exhaust fans. When you released it, it would roll
back down onto the roller. The ball chain allowed you to "lock" it in any
amount of coverage you wanted. It was actually a pretty cool design.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FD68091.B0D0534E@sympatico.ca...
> I hear you, I lived in the Canadian Rockies for 8 years or so. Nothing
> like a snow storm on Labor Day weekend and having that snow stay for the
> winter...
>
> I saw way too many -30 Halloweens...
>
> Mike
>
> Kyonn Gowans wrote:
> >
> > > I know what you mean. Our 88 is really slow to warm up too. My CJ7
> > > heats up the inside faster....
> >
> > You think you got it bad, I live in Alaska. Last week it got down to
> > negative 40 and that damn thing never got warm. On the positive side my
> > Cherokee is far tougher than most cars, it starts unassited at very low
> > temps (and when I say low I mean LOW)
> >
> > > One thing I found was to let it warm up in the driveway before
starting
> > > out.
> >
> > That's a given in AK
> >
> > > On the highway or running hard or in a fast outside temperature swing,
> > > the engine can overheat.
> >
> > Given where I live I dont think overheating is really a concern. I would
> > only use the grill inserts until spring and then remove 'em.
#80
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Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
On 10 Dec 2003 04:16 PM, TJim posted the following:
> When I was much younger, I worked in a Mercedes dealer parts
> department. I remember the 190 sedan had an optional device that
> looked like a window shade (the roll-up kind) in front of the radiator.
> It was rolled up from the bottom with a line that ran inside to the
> driver and had a ball chain on the end (like a key chain, only larger)
> that hooked like the doors on the old fashioned kitchen exhaust fans.
> When you released it, it would roll back down onto the roller. The
> ball chain allowed you to "lock" it in any amount of coverage you
> wanted. It was actually a pretty cool design.
That is a radiator blind. I have a book for my '59 MGA which lists all
the original equipment configurations, and there was one listed as an
option, although I've never seen one or even a picture of one actually
installed. A british sports car isn't exactly the optimal winter
vehicle, but my dad claimed to have had a ski rack for it at one time (
he bought the car in '63) and somewhere in a crate I still have a set of
rusty tire chains for it.
I'm kind of surprised that I've never seen a modern equivalent for a
radiator blind sold for use in northern climes. I'd probably buy one
for the Jeep, although I'd have to re-route the hydraulic lines for my
winch since they go right through the grill now.
When I went to school in Fairbanks, vinyl grill covers were a big thing
up there although I never liked the idea of adding external snaps to my
rig. I eventually bought some grill inserts for my S-10 but never found
that they made a big difference.
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> When I was much younger, I worked in a Mercedes dealer parts
> department. I remember the 190 sedan had an optional device that
> looked like a window shade (the roll-up kind) in front of the radiator.
> It was rolled up from the bottom with a line that ran inside to the
> driver and had a ball chain on the end (like a key chain, only larger)
> that hooked like the doors on the old fashioned kitchen exhaust fans.
> When you released it, it would roll back down onto the roller. The
> ball chain allowed you to "lock" it in any amount of coverage you
> wanted. It was actually a pretty cool design.
That is a radiator blind. I have a book for my '59 MGA which lists all
the original equipment configurations, and there was one listed as an
option, although I've never seen one or even a picture of one actually
installed. A british sports car isn't exactly the optimal winter
vehicle, but my dad claimed to have had a ski rack for it at one time (
he bought the car in '63) and somewhere in a crate I still have a set of
rusty tire chains for it.
I'm kind of surprised that I've never seen a modern equivalent for a
radiator blind sold for use in northern climes. I'd probably buy one
for the Jeep, although I'd have to re-route the hydraulic lines for my
winch since they go right through the grill now.
When I went to school in Fairbanks, vinyl grill covers were a big thing
up there although I never liked the idea of adding external snaps to my
rig. I eventually bought some grill inserts for my S-10 but never found
that they made a big difference.
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