Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
 

"Kyonn Gowans" <kyonn@yahoo.com> wrote ...
>
> > I used to cut an appropriate sized piece of cardboard and stuff it
> between
> > the grill and the radiator. But that was when I was poor(er).
>
> Yeah I've seen people do that, but I'm trying to avoid it if I can. I need
> to do something cause it just takes my car way to long to warm up in the
> dead of winter.

My clever brother would buy a piece of naugahyde (sp?) and some snaps and
fashion himself a grill bra in about 30 minutes. It requires putting a few
snaps on your grill but works very well. Whatever you do, don't block the
whole thing.

Cardboard worked for me and was free and readily available. A little paint
and some zip ties and nobody even knows it's there.

--
- Jeff
- ........................ then again, what do I know.

Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
 

"Kyonn Gowans" <kyonn@yahoo.com> wrote ...
>
> > I used to cut an appropriate sized piece of cardboard and stuff it
> between
> > the grill and the radiator. But that was when I was poor(er).
>
> Yeah I've seen people do that, but I'm trying to avoid it if I can. I need
> to do something cause it just takes my car way to long to warm up in the
> dead of winter.

My clever brother would buy a piece of naugahyde (sp?) and some snaps and
fashion himself a grill bra in about 30 minutes. It requires putting a few
snaps on your grill but works very well. Whatever you do, don't block the
whole thing.

Cardboard worked for me and was free and readily available. A little paint
and some zip ties and nobody even knows it's there.

--
- Jeff
- ........................ then again, what do I know.

Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
 

"Kyonn Gowans" <kyonn@yahoo.com> wrote ...
>
> > I used to cut an appropriate sized piece of cardboard and stuff it
> between
> > the grill and the radiator. But that was when I was poor(er).
>
> Yeah I've seen people do that, but I'm trying to avoid it if I can. I need
> to do something cause it just takes my car way to long to warm up in the
> dead of winter.

My clever brother would buy a piece of naugahyde (sp?) and some snaps and
fashion himself a grill bra in about 30 minutes. It requires putting a few
snaps on your grill but works very well. Whatever you do, don't block the
whole thing.

Cardboard worked for me and was free and readily available. A little paint
and some zip ties and nobody even knows it's there.

--
- Jeff
- ........................ then again, what do I know.

Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
 

Kyonn Gowans wrote:
>
> > I used to cut an appropriate sized piece of cardboard and stuffed it
> between
> > the grill and the radiator. But that was I was poor(er).
> > - Jeff
>
> Yeah I've seen people do that, but I'm trying to avoid it if I can. I need
> to do something cause it just takes my car way to long to warm up in the
> dead of winter.

I know what you mean. Our 88 is really slow to warm up too. My CJ7
heats up the inside faster....

One thing I found was to let it warm up in the driveway before starting
out. It will then stay warm. Especially if I am heading for the
highway. Otherwise I can go across the city via highway and never
really have the inside warm.

Cardboard can be dangerous.....

On the highway or running hard or in a fast outside temperature swing,
the engine can overheat. It is really not good to have the same rad
blockage on the highway as the city and getting out to try and dig that
piece of cardboard out in the freezing cold, well....

I have seen more than a few engines with baked valve guide seals because
of that, including a couple of mine the previous owners had baked.
(knew the owners) You know, that nice blue puff on first startup...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
 

Kyonn Gowans wrote:
>
> > I used to cut an appropriate sized piece of cardboard and stuffed it
> between
> > the grill and the radiator. But that was I was poor(er).
> > - Jeff
>
> Yeah I've seen people do that, but I'm trying to avoid it if I can. I need
> to do something cause it just takes my car way to long to warm up in the
> dead of winter.

I know what you mean. Our 88 is really slow to warm up too. My CJ7
heats up the inside faster....

One thing I found was to let it warm up in the driveway before starting
out. It will then stay warm. Especially if I am heading for the
highway. Otherwise I can go across the city via highway and never
really have the inside warm.

Cardboard can be dangerous.....

On the highway or running hard or in a fast outside temperature swing,
the engine can overheat. It is really not good to have the same rad
blockage on the highway as the city and getting out to try and dig that
piece of cardboard out in the freezing cold, well....

I have seen more than a few engines with baked valve guide seals because
of that, including a couple of mine the previous owners had baked.
(knew the owners) You know, that nice blue puff on first startup...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
 

Kyonn Gowans wrote:
>
> > I used to cut an appropriate sized piece of cardboard and stuffed it
> between
> > the grill and the radiator. But that was I was poor(er).
> > - Jeff
>
> Yeah I've seen people do that, but I'm trying to avoid it if I can. I need
> to do something cause it just takes my car way to long to warm up in the
> dead of winter.

I know what you mean. Our 88 is really slow to warm up too. My CJ7
heats up the inside faster....

One thing I found was to let it warm up in the driveway before starting
out. It will then stay warm. Especially if I am heading for the
highway. Otherwise I can go across the city via highway and never
really have the inside warm.

Cardboard can be dangerous.....

On the highway or running hard or in a fast outside temperature swing,
the engine can overheat. It is really not good to have the same rad
blockage on the highway as the city and getting out to try and dig that
piece of cardboard out in the freezing cold, well....

I have seen more than a few engines with baked valve guide seals because
of that, including a couple of mine the previous owners had baked.
(knew the owners) You know, that nice blue puff on first startup...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
 

Roughly 12/9/03 15:33, Mike Romain's monkeys randomly typed:


>
> One thing I found was to let it warm up in the driveway before starting
> out. It will then stay warm. Especially if I am heading for the
> highway. Otherwise I can go across the city via highway and never
> really have the inside warm.

What y'all need is a set of those old radiator shutters like the
1922 Hudson and a few others.

J.C Whitney used to have a radiator block somewhat similar to
a pulldown window blind, with a little cord to pull it up and
down, but don't see them in the catalog any more.
>
> Cardboard can be dangerous.....
>
> On the highway or running hard or in a fast outside temperature swing,
> the engine can overheat. It is really not good to have the same rad
> blockage on the highway as the city and getting out to try and dig that
> piece of cardboard out in the freezing cold, well....

Or just an unexpected pull. Have cooked the head gaskets in
an MGB by forgetting to pull the cardboard. Darn thing never
got hot enough to warm the passenger compartment at really
cold temps without the radiator blocked on flat roads.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
 

Roughly 12/9/03 15:33, Mike Romain's monkeys randomly typed:


>
> One thing I found was to let it warm up in the driveway before starting
> out. It will then stay warm. Especially if I am heading for the
> highway. Otherwise I can go across the city via highway and never
> really have the inside warm.

What y'all need is a set of those old radiator shutters like the
1922 Hudson and a few others.

J.C Whitney used to have a radiator block somewhat similar to
a pulldown window blind, with a little cord to pull it up and
down, but don't see them in the catalog any more.
>
> Cardboard can be dangerous.....
>
> On the highway or running hard or in a fast outside temperature swing,
> the engine can overheat. It is really not good to have the same rad
> blockage on the highway as the city and getting out to try and dig that
> piece of cardboard out in the freezing cold, well....

Or just an unexpected pull. Have cooked the head gaskets in
an MGB by forgetting to pull the cardboard. Darn thing never
got hot enough to warm the passenger compartment at really
cold temps without the radiator blocked on flat roads.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
 

Roughly 12/9/03 15:33, Mike Romain's monkeys randomly typed:


>
> One thing I found was to let it warm up in the driveway before starting
> out. It will then stay warm. Especially if I am heading for the
> highway. Otherwise I can go across the city via highway and never
> really have the inside warm.

What y'all need is a set of those old radiator shutters like the
1922 Hudson and a few others.

J.C Whitney used to have a radiator block somewhat similar to
a pulldown window blind, with a little cord to pull it up and
down, but don't see them in the catalog any more.
>
> Cardboard can be dangerous.....
>
> On the highway or running hard or in a fast outside temperature swing,
> the engine can overheat. It is really not good to have the same rad
> blockage on the highway as the city and getting out to try and dig that
> piece of cardboard out in the freezing cold, well....

Or just an unexpected pull. Have cooked the head gaskets in
an MGB by forgetting to pull the cardboard. Darn thing never
got hot enough to warm the passenger compartment at really
cold temps without the radiator blocked on flat roads.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: Winter Grill Inserts?
 

> I know what you mean. Our 88 is really slow to warm up too. My CJ7
> heats up the inside faster....

You think you got it bad, I live in Alaska. Last week it got down to
negative 40 and that damn thing never got warm. On the positive side my
Cherokee is far tougher than most cars, it starts unassited at very low
temps (and when I say low I mean LOW)

> One thing I found was to let it warm up in the driveway before starting
> out.

That's a given in AK

> On the highway or running hard or in a fast outside temperature swing,
> the engine can overheat.

Given where I live I dont think overheating is really a concern. I would
only use the grill inserts until spring and then remove 'em.