"L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <----------@***.net> writes:

> And Real drivers use the outside mirrors, only.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Daniel Bibbens" <dbibbens@xobjex.com> wrote in message
> news:86d570kfw0.fsf@cheyenne.xobjex.com...
>> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> writes:
>>
[...snipped...]

It follows logically; if you want a real Jeep, get a dog big enough to
block your windshield rear-view mirror.
--

 

"L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <----------@***.net> writes:

> Real Jeeps drive with their windshields down:
> http://www.----------.com/jeep68sand2.jpg The law just says it just must be
> equipped with a windshield: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26700.htm
> It doesn't say anything about be in the up position.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------

Down, Bill? It looks like your windshield's gone missing <g>.
--

 

"L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <----------@***.net> writes:

> Real Jeeps drive with their windshields down:
> http://www.----------.com/jeep68sand2.jpg The law just says it just must be
> equipped with a windshield: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26700.htm
> It doesn't say anything about be in the up position.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------

Down, Bill? It looks like your windshield's gone missing <g>.
--

 

"L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <----------@***.net> writes:

> Real Jeeps drive with their windshields down:
> http://www.----------.com/jeep68sand2.jpg The law just says it just must be
> equipped with a windshield: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26700.htm
> It doesn't say anything about be in the up position.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------

Down, Bill? It looks like your windshield's gone missing <g>.
--

 

noneofyourbusiness wrote:
>
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:12:31 -0800, Daniel Bibbens
> <dbibbens@xobjex.com> wrote:
>
> >"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> writes:
> >
> >> Lots of people want to know why you chose to remove this part.
> >
> > heh....
> >>
> >> Earle
> >>
> >
> >There are a few reasons.
> >
> > * First, even if I used the mirror, all I'd see is my dog's goofy
> > face (see the link below).
> >
> > * Second, the mirror and, to a lesser degree, the mirror mount,
> > blocked my dog's view of the terrain ahead (squirrels, lizards,
> > and coyotes need chasin' ya' know). So, to get a better view, he'd
> > lower his head causing him to move forward slightly. When the
> > inevitable bump came, his foot would slide off the center console
> > into my trail-ready Gatorade bottle. On a typical ride, his foot
> > would have trail bits on it which would then be intermingled with
> > what ever I might have been drinking.
> >
> > * Third, it was just one more thing that would need to be
> > occasionally dusted and cleaned. I've learned that a squeegee and
> > Windex are fast and effective to clean the windshield. Since I
> > have to clean both sides, (of bugs, trail dust, and dog spit), the
> > mirror mount interfered with a contiguous squeegee pass.
> >
> >If I didn't have so much fun with my Jeep, I'd swear it was an
> >over-engineered dust-and-doghair-collection-system. I've removed
> >every non-essential part and am working on a custom dashboard. The
> >stock dashboard is the last offending item with all its function-free
> >ledges and curves. I'm not a clean-freak but can live with only so
> >much trail dust and dog hair after the fact. I wonder, how many of the
> >"Jeep" engineers acutally use a Jeep similar to the way I do?
> >
> >The law, in California at least, requires two rear-view mirrors. Mine
> >are on the side (as evidenced by the link below).
> >
> >I hope that this has satisfied "lots" of curiousity. :)
>
> It leaves one question unanswered:
> Where was that picture taken? <g>
>
> (I also might want to remove my center mirror, or at least remount it
> higher up. It blocks my view, at intersections, of cars crossing on my
> right.)
>
> ...

Just an FYI for you. Most Jeep center glass mirrors I have seen are on
a double ball and socket rod. It has a ball and socket at each end so
you can grab it, tilt the rod up and move it to the top edge of the
windshield, instead of having the rod tilt down so the mirror is below
the sun visors when they are down like the folks at the factory set
them.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

 

noneofyourbusiness wrote:
>
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:12:31 -0800, Daniel Bibbens
> <dbibbens@xobjex.com> wrote:
>
> >"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> writes:
> >
> >> Lots of people want to know why you chose to remove this part.
> >
> > heh....
> >>
> >> Earle
> >>
> >
> >There are a few reasons.
> >
> > * First, even if I used the mirror, all I'd see is my dog's goofy
> > face (see the link below).
> >
> > * Second, the mirror and, to a lesser degree, the mirror mount,
> > blocked my dog's view of the terrain ahead (squirrels, lizards,
> > and coyotes need chasin' ya' know). So, to get a better view, he'd
> > lower his head causing him to move forward slightly. When the
> > inevitable bump came, his foot would slide off the center console
> > into my trail-ready Gatorade bottle. On a typical ride, his foot
> > would have trail bits on it which would then be intermingled with
> > what ever I might have been drinking.
> >
> > * Third, it was just one more thing that would need to be
> > occasionally dusted and cleaned. I've learned that a squeegee and
> > Windex are fast and effective to clean the windshield. Since I
> > have to clean both sides, (of bugs, trail dust, and dog spit), the
> > mirror mount interfered with a contiguous squeegee pass.
> >
> >If I didn't have so much fun with my Jeep, I'd swear it was an
> >over-engineered dust-and-doghair-collection-system. I've removed
> >every non-essential part and am working on a custom dashboard. The
> >stock dashboard is the last offending item with all its function-free
> >ledges and curves. I'm not a clean-freak but can live with only so
> >much trail dust and dog hair after the fact. I wonder, how many of the
> >"Jeep" engineers acutally use a Jeep similar to the way I do?
> >
> >The law, in California at least, requires two rear-view mirrors. Mine
> >are on the side (as evidenced by the link below).
> >
> >I hope that this has satisfied "lots" of curiousity. :)
>
> It leaves one question unanswered:
> Where was that picture taken? <g>
>
> (I also might want to remove my center mirror, or at least remount it
> higher up. It blocks my view, at intersections, of cars crossing on my
> right.)
>
> ...

Just an FYI for you. Most Jeep center glass mirrors I have seen are on
a double ball and socket rod. It has a ball and socket at each end so
you can grab it, tilt the rod up and move it to the top edge of the
windshield, instead of having the rod tilt down so the mirror is below
the sun visors when they are down like the folks at the factory set
them.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

 

noneofyourbusiness wrote:
>
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:12:31 -0800, Daniel Bibbens
> <dbibbens@xobjex.com> wrote:
>
> >"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> writes:
> >
> >> Lots of people want to know why you chose to remove this part.
> >
> > heh....
> >>
> >> Earle
> >>
> >
> >There are a few reasons.
> >
> > * First, even if I used the mirror, all I'd see is my dog's goofy
> > face (see the link below).
> >
> > * Second, the mirror and, to a lesser degree, the mirror mount,
> > blocked my dog's view of the terrain ahead (squirrels, lizards,
> > and coyotes need chasin' ya' know). So, to get a better view, he'd
> > lower his head causing him to move forward slightly. When the
> > inevitable bump came, his foot would slide off the center console
> > into my trail-ready Gatorade bottle. On a typical ride, his foot
> > would have trail bits on it which would then be intermingled with
> > what ever I might have been drinking.
> >
> > * Third, it was just one more thing that would need to be
> > occasionally dusted and cleaned. I've learned that a squeegee and
> > Windex are fast and effective to clean the windshield. Since I
> > have to clean both sides, (of bugs, trail dust, and dog spit), the
> > mirror mount interfered with a contiguous squeegee pass.
> >
> >If I didn't have so much fun with my Jeep, I'd swear it was an
> >over-engineered dust-and-doghair-collection-system. I've removed
> >every non-essential part and am working on a custom dashboard. The
> >stock dashboard is the last offending item with all its function-free
> >ledges and curves. I'm not a clean-freak but can live with only so
> >much trail dust and dog hair after the fact. I wonder, how many of the
> >"Jeep" engineers acutally use a Jeep similar to the way I do?
> >
> >The law, in California at least, requires two rear-view mirrors. Mine
> >are on the side (as evidenced by the link below).
> >
> >I hope that this has satisfied "lots" of curiousity. :)
>
> It leaves one question unanswered:
> Where was that picture taken? <g>
>
> (I also might want to remove my center mirror, or at least remount it
> higher up. It blocks my view, at intersections, of cars crossing on my
> right.)
>
> ...

Just an FYI for you. Most Jeep center glass mirrors I have seen are on
a double ball and socket rod. It has a ball and socket at each end so
you can grab it, tilt the rod up and move it to the top edge of the
windshield, instead of having the rod tilt down so the mirror is below
the sun visors when they are down like the folks at the factory set
them.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

 

Here in Ontario Canada, we just need a working wiper... It doesn't
mention up or down or even having to have glass...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Real Jeeps drive with their windshields down:
> http://www.----------.com/jeep68sand2.jpg The law just says it just must be
> equipped with a windshield: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26700.htm
> It doesn't say anything about be in the up position.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
> news:8f2ec$45738bad$9440b19b$10302@STARBAND.NET...
> > "Daniel Bibbens" <dbibbens@xobjex.com> wrote in message
> > news:86d570kfw0.fsf@cheyenne.xobjex.com...
> > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> writes:
> > >
> > >> Lots of people want to know why you chose to remove this part.
> > >
> > > heh....
> > >>
> > >> Earle
> > >>
> > >
> > > There are a few reasons.
> > >
> > > * First, even if I used the mirror, all I'd see is my dog's goofy
> > > face (see the link below).
> > >
> > > * Second, the mirror and, to a lesser degree, the mirror mount,
> > > blocked my dog's view of the terrain ahead (squirrels, lizards,
> > > and coyotes need chasin' ya' know). So, to get a better view, he'd
> > > lower his head causing him to move forward slightly. When the
> > > inevitable bump came, his foot would slide off the center console
> > > into my trail-ready Gatorade bottle. On a typical ride, his foot
> > > would have trail bits on it which would then be intermingled with
> > > what ever I might have been drinking.
> > >
> > > * Third, it was just one more thing that would need to be
> > > occasionally dusted and cleaned. I've learned that a squeegee and
> > > Windex are fast and effective to clean the windshield. Since I
> > > have to clean both sides, (of bugs, trail dust, and dog spit), the
> > > mirror mount interfered with a contiguous squeegee pass.
> > >
> > > If I didn't have so much fun with my Jeep, I'd swear it was an
> > > over-engineered dust-and-doghair-collection-system. I've removed
> > > every non-essential part and am working on a custom dashboard. The
> > > stock dashboard is the last offending item with all its function-free
> > > ledges and curves. I'm not a clean-freak but can live with only so
> > > much trail dust and dog hair after the fact. I wonder, how many of the
> > > "Jeep" engineers acutally use a Jeep similar to the way I do?
> > >
> > > The law, in California at least, requires two rear-view mirrors. Mine
> > > are on the side (as evidenced by the link below).
> > >
> > > I hope that this has satisfied "lots" of curiousity. :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Happy Trails ~
> > >
> > > http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
> >
> > We had a weekend in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho and saw a Jeep with the
> windshield
> > folded forward and the driver and two golden retrievers were wearing
> goggles
> > and white scarves, like Snoopy. Not a single tourist could help
> stopping
> > and taking a pic with the Goldies. The owner was very understanding.
> >
> >
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

 

Here in Ontario Canada, we just need a working wiper... It doesn't
mention up or down or even having to have glass...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Real Jeeps drive with their windshields down:
> http://www.----------.com/jeep68sand2.jpg The law just says it just must be
> equipped with a windshield: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26700.htm
> It doesn't say anything about be in the up position.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
> news:8f2ec$45738bad$9440b19b$10302@STARBAND.NET...
> > "Daniel Bibbens" <dbibbens@xobjex.com> wrote in message
> > news:86d570kfw0.fsf@cheyenne.xobjex.com...
> > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> writes:
> > >
> > >> Lots of people want to know why you chose to remove this part.
> > >
> > > heh....
> > >>
> > >> Earle
> > >>
> > >
> > > There are a few reasons.
> > >
> > > * First, even if I used the mirror, all I'd see is my dog's goofy
> > > face (see the link below).
> > >
> > > * Second, the mirror and, to a lesser degree, the mirror mount,
> > > blocked my dog's view of the terrain ahead (squirrels, lizards,
> > > and coyotes need chasin' ya' know). So, to get a better view, he'd
> > > lower his head causing him to move forward slightly. When the
> > > inevitable bump came, his foot would slide off the center console
> > > into my trail-ready Gatorade bottle. On a typical ride, his foot
> > > would have trail bits on it which would then be intermingled with
> > > what ever I might have been drinking.
> > >
> > > * Third, it was just one more thing that would need to be
> > > occasionally dusted and cleaned. I've learned that a squeegee and
> > > Windex are fast and effective to clean the windshield. Since I
> > > have to clean both sides, (of bugs, trail dust, and dog spit), the
> > > mirror mount interfered with a contiguous squeegee pass.
> > >
> > > If I didn't have so much fun with my Jeep, I'd swear it was an
> > > over-engineered dust-and-doghair-collection-system. I've removed
> > > every non-essential part and am working on a custom dashboard. The
> > > stock dashboard is the last offending item with all its function-free
> > > ledges and curves. I'm not a clean-freak but can live with only so
> > > much trail dust and dog hair after the fact. I wonder, how many of the
> > > "Jeep" engineers acutally use a Jeep similar to the way I do?
> > >
> > > The law, in California at least, requires two rear-view mirrors. Mine
> > > are on the side (as evidenced by the link below).
> > >
> > > I hope that this has satisfied "lots" of curiousity. :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Happy Trails ~
> > >
> > > http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
> >
> > We had a weekend in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho and saw a Jeep with the
> windshield
> > folded forward and the driver and two golden retrievers were wearing
> goggles
> > and white scarves, like Snoopy. Not a single tourist could help
> stopping
> > and taking a pic with the Goldies. The owner was very understanding.
> >
> >
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

 

Here in Ontario Canada, we just need a working wiper... It doesn't
mention up or down or even having to have glass...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Real Jeeps drive with their windshields down:
> http://www.----------.com/jeep68sand2.jpg The law just says it just must be
> equipped with a windshield: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26700.htm
> It doesn't say anything about be in the up position.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
> news:8f2ec$45738bad$9440b19b$10302@STARBAND.NET...
> > "Daniel Bibbens" <dbibbens@xobjex.com> wrote in message
> > news:86d570kfw0.fsf@cheyenne.xobjex.com...
> > > "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> writes:
> > >
> > >> Lots of people want to know why you chose to remove this part.
> > >
> > > heh....
> > >>
> > >> Earle
> > >>
> > >
> > > There are a few reasons.
> > >
> > > * First, even if I used the mirror, all I'd see is my dog's goofy
> > > face (see the link below).
> > >
> > > * Second, the mirror and, to a lesser degree, the mirror mount,
> > > blocked my dog's view of the terrain ahead (squirrels, lizards,
> > > and coyotes need chasin' ya' know). So, to get a better view, he'd
> > > lower his head causing him to move forward slightly. When the
> > > inevitable bump came, his foot would slide off the center console
> > > into my trail-ready Gatorade bottle. On a typical ride, his foot
> > > would have trail bits on it which would then be intermingled with
> > > what ever I might have been drinking.
> > >
> > > * Third, it was just one more thing that would need to be
> > > occasionally dusted and cleaned. I've learned that a squeegee and
> > > Windex are fast and effective to clean the windshield. Since I
> > > have to clean both sides, (of bugs, trail dust, and dog spit), the
> > > mirror mount interfered with a contiguous squeegee pass.
> > >
> > > If I didn't have so much fun with my Jeep, I'd swear it was an
> > > over-engineered dust-and-doghair-collection-system. I've removed
> > > every non-essential part and am working on a custom dashboard. The
> > > stock dashboard is the last offending item with all its function-free
> > > ledges and curves. I'm not a clean-freak but can live with only so
> > > much trail dust and dog hair after the fact. I wonder, how many of the
> > > "Jeep" engineers acutally use a Jeep similar to the way I do?
> > >
> > > The law, in California at least, requires two rear-view mirrors. Mine
> > > are on the side (as evidenced by the link below).
> > >
> > > I hope that this has satisfied "lots" of curiousity. :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Happy Trails ~
> > >
> > > http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
> >
> > We had a weekend in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho and saw a Jeep with the
> windshield
> > folded forward and the driver and two golden retrievers were wearing
> goggles
> > and white scarves, like Snoopy. Not a single tourist could help
> stopping
> > and taking a pic with the Goldies. The owner was very understanding.
> >
> >
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com