Winch Woes
10-07-2005, 09:44 PM
#1
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Winch Woes
Got a new selonoid pack on my warn MX8085 and had the MRV-B-7 rebuilt at a
local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but kept
pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly, no
winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool, while
manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice. Power in
just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the motor,
one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper cable
from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it to the one
on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show me the motor
worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way, producing only really
big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole on the left produces only
exorberant amounts of sparks.
What gives?
Carl
local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but kept
pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly, no
winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool, while
manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice. Power in
just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the motor,
one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper cable
from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it to the one
on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show me the motor
worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way, producing only really
big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole on the left produces only
exorberant amounts of sparks.
What gives?
Carl
10-08-2005, 12:37 AM
#2
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Re: Winch Woes
It sort of sounds like you toasted it
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:opidnXvx-dr0udreRVn-gA@comcast.com...
> Got a new selonoid pack on my warn MX8085 and had the MRV-B-7 rebuilt at a
> local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
>
> Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
> cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but kept
> pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly, no
> winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool, while
> manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice. Power in
> just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
>
> There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the
> motor, one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper
> cable from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it to
> the one on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show me
> the motor worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way, producing
> only really big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole on the left
> produces only exorberant amounts of sparks.
>
> What gives?
>
> Carl
>
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:opidnXvx-dr0udreRVn-gA@comcast.com...
> Got a new selonoid pack on my warn MX8085 and had the MRV-B-7 rebuilt at a
> local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
>
> Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
> cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but kept
> pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly, no
> winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool, while
> manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice. Power in
> just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
>
> There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the
> motor, one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper
> cable from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it to
> the one on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show me
> the motor worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way, producing
> only really big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole on the left
> produces only exorberant amounts of sparks.
>
> What gives?
>
> Carl
>
10-08-2005, 12:37 AM
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Re: Winch Woes
It sort of sounds like you toasted it
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:opidnXvx-dr0udreRVn-gA@comcast.com...
> Got a new selonoid pack on my warn MX8085 and had the MRV-B-7 rebuilt at a
> local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
>
> Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
> cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but kept
> pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly, no
> winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool, while
> manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice. Power in
> just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
>
> There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the
> motor, one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper
> cable from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it to
> the one on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show me
> the motor worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way, producing
> only really big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole on the left
> produces only exorberant amounts of sparks.
>
> What gives?
>
> Carl
>
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:opidnXvx-dr0udreRVn-gA@comcast.com...
> Got a new selonoid pack on my warn MX8085 and had the MRV-B-7 rebuilt at a
> local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
>
> Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
> cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but kept
> pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly, no
> winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool, while
> manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice. Power in
> just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
>
> There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the
> motor, one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper
> cable from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it to
> the one on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show me
> the motor worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way, producing
> only really big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole on the left
> produces only exorberant amounts of sparks.
>
> What gives?
>
> Carl
>
10-08-2005, 12:37 AM
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Re: Winch Woes
It sort of sounds like you toasted it
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:opidnXvx-dr0udreRVn-gA@comcast.com...
> Got a new selonoid pack on my warn MX8085 and had the MRV-B-7 rebuilt at a
> local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
>
> Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
> cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but kept
> pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly, no
> winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool, while
> manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice. Power in
> just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
>
> There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the
> motor, one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper
> cable from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it to
> the one on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show me
> the motor worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way, producing
> only really big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole on the left
> produces only exorberant amounts of sparks.
>
> What gives?
>
> Carl
>
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:opidnXvx-dr0udreRVn-gA@comcast.com...
> Got a new selonoid pack on my warn MX8085 and had the MRV-B-7 rebuilt at a
> local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
>
> Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
> cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but kept
> pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly, no
> winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool, while
> manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice. Power in
> just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
>
> There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the
> motor, one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper
> cable from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it to
> the one on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show me
> the motor worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way, producing
> only really big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole on the left
> produces only exorberant amounts of sparks.
>
> What gives?
>
> Carl
>
10-08-2005, 02:12 AM
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Re: Winch Woes
I dont understand how i would have toasted it.. It was a fresh rebuild I
picked up today.. I used it for all of 30 seconds.
Carl
"Smitty" <rs@spamnot.com> wrote in message
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> It sort of sounds like you toasted it
>
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:opidnXvx-dr0udreRVn-gA@comcast.com...
>> Got a new selonoid pack on my warn MX8085 and had the MRV-B-7 rebuilt at
>> a local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
>>
>> Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
>> cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but
>> kept pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly,
>> no winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool,
>> while manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice.
>> Power in just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
>>
>> There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the
>> motor, one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper
>> cable from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it
>> to the one on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show
>> me the motor worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way,
>> producing only really big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole
>> on the left produces only exorberant amounts of sparks.
>>
>> What gives?
>>
>> Carl
>>
>
>
picked up today.. I used it for all of 30 seconds.
Carl
"Smitty" <rs@spamnot.com> wrote in message
news:U1I1f.11204$QE1.175@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> It sort of sounds like you toasted it
>
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:opidnXvx-dr0udreRVn-gA@comcast.com...
>> Got a new selonoid pack on my warn MX8085 and had the MRV-B-7 rebuilt at
>> a local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
>>
>> Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
>> cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but
>> kept pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly,
>> no winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool,
>> while manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice.
>> Power in just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
>>
>> There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the
>> motor, one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper
>> cable from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it
>> to the one on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show
>> me the motor worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way,
>> producing only really big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole
>> on the left produces only exorberant amounts of sparks.
>>
>> What gives?
>>
>> Carl
>>
>
>
10-08-2005, 02:12 AM
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Re: Winch Woes
I dont understand how i would have toasted it.. It was a fresh rebuild I
picked up today.. I used it for all of 30 seconds.
Carl
"Smitty" <rs@spamnot.com> wrote in message
news:U1I1f.11204$QE1.175@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> It sort of sounds like you toasted it
>
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:opidnXvx-dr0udreRVn-gA@comcast.com...
>> Got a new selonoid pack on my warn MX8085 and had the MRV-B-7 rebuilt at
>> a local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
>>
>> Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
>> cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but
>> kept pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly,
>> no winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool,
>> while manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice.
>> Power in just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
>>
>> There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the
>> motor, one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper
>> cable from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it
>> to the one on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show
>> me the motor worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way,
>> producing only really big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole
>> on the left produces only exorberant amounts of sparks.
>>
>> What gives?
>>
>> Carl
>>
>
>
picked up today.. I used it for all of 30 seconds.
Carl
"Smitty" <rs@spamnot.com> wrote in message
news:U1I1f.11204$QE1.175@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> It sort of sounds like you toasted it
>
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:opidnXvx-dr0udreRVn-gA@comcast.com...
>> Got a new selonoid pack on my warn MX8085 and had the MRV-B-7 rebuilt at
>> a local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
>>
>> Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
>> cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but
>> kept pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly,
>> no winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool,
>> while manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice.
>> Power in just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
>>
>> There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the
>> motor, one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper
>> cable from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it
>> to the one on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show
>> me the motor worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way,
>> producing only really big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole
>> on the left produces only exorberant amounts of sparks.
>>
>> What gives?
>>
>> Carl
>>
>
>
10-08-2005, 02:12 AM
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Re: Winch Woes
I dont understand how i would have toasted it.. It was a fresh rebuild I
picked up today.. I used it for all of 30 seconds.
Carl
"Smitty" <rs@spamnot.com> wrote in message
news:U1I1f.11204$QE1.175@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> It sort of sounds like you toasted it
>
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:opidnXvx-dr0udreRVn-gA@comcast.com...
>> Got a new selonoid pack on my warn MX8085 and had the MRV-B-7 rebuilt at
>> a local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
>>
>> Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
>> cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but
>> kept pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly,
>> no winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool,
>> while manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice.
>> Power in just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
>>
>> There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the
>> motor, one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper
>> cable from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it
>> to the one on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show
>> me the motor worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way,
>> producing only really big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole
>> on the left produces only exorberant amounts of sparks.
>>
>> What gives?
>>
>> Carl
>>
>
>
picked up today.. I used it for all of 30 seconds.
Carl
"Smitty" <rs@spamnot.com> wrote in message
news:U1I1f.11204$QE1.175@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> It sort of sounds like you toasted it
>
>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:opidnXvx-dr0udreRVn-gA@comcast.com...
>> Got a new selonoid pack on my warn MX8085 and had the MRV-B-7 rebuilt at
>> a local shop. New armature, brushes, ect.
>>
>> Re-installed everything today and was in the process of spooling in my
>> cable. About 1/4 of the way through, the winch slowed down a lot, but
>> kept pulling. About 30 seconds later, the selonoids just clicked rapidly,
>> no winch movement. The power in cable was getting RED hot. Let it cool,
>> while manually spooling in about 30 ft of cable. Tried again, no dice.
>> Power in just gets really hot. Everything is hooked up properly.
>>
>> There are three poles on the winch. Two on the far right side of the
>> motor, one isolated on the left. The guy at the rebuild shop put a jumper
>> cable from my battery on either of the two at the right, and shorted it
>> to the one on the left with a screwdriver to bypass the selonoids to show
>> me the motor worked. I removed the seloniods and tried it this way,
>> producing only really big sparks. Putting any kind of power to the pole
>> on the left produces only exorberant amounts of sparks.
>>
>> What gives?
>>
>> Carl
>>
>
>
10-08-2005, 02:33 AM
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Re: Winch Woes
Hi Carl,
They probably used soldered like their low amp 220 volt motors
instead of silver for something that will take over four hundred amps at
operating temperature.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl wrote:
>
> I dont understand how i would have toasted it.. It was a fresh rebuild I
> picked up today.. I used it for all of 30 seconds.
>
> Carl
They probably used soldered like their low amp 220 volt motors
instead of silver for something that will take over four hundred amps at
operating temperature.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl wrote:
>
> I dont understand how i would have toasted it.. It was a fresh rebuild I
> picked up today.. I used it for all of 30 seconds.
>
> Carl
10-08-2005, 02:33 AM
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Re: Winch Woes
Hi Carl,
They probably used soldered like their low amp 220 volt motors
instead of silver for something that will take over four hundred amps at
operating temperature.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl wrote:
>
> I dont understand how i would have toasted it.. It was a fresh rebuild I
> picked up today.. I used it for all of 30 seconds.
>
> Carl
They probably used soldered like their low amp 220 volt motors
instead of silver for something that will take over four hundred amps at
operating temperature.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl wrote:
>
> I dont understand how i would have toasted it.. It was a fresh rebuild I
> picked up today.. I used it for all of 30 seconds.
>
> Carl
10-08-2005, 02:33 AM
#10
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Re: Winch Woes
Hi Carl,
They probably used soldered like their low amp 220 volt motors
instead of silver for something that will take over four hundred amps at
operating temperature.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl wrote:
>
> I dont understand how i would have toasted it.. It was a fresh rebuild I
> picked up today.. I used it for all of 30 seconds.
>
> Carl
They probably used soldered like their low amp 220 volt motors
instead of silver for something that will take over four hundred amps at
operating temperature.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl wrote:
>
> I dont understand how i would have toasted it.. It was a fresh rebuild I
> picked up today.. I used it for all of 30 seconds.
>
> Carl