Winch Rope
01-17-2006, 02:47 PM
#31
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Re: Winch Rope
Interesting, thanks, all of you !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:S28zf.13982$V.5830@fed1read04...
> Dave, they want you to avoid using standard a standard roller fair lead
> with synthetic rope because it can get caught in the corner and become
> damaged, or a steel hawse that has become damaged from wire rope so it
> might have sharp edges on it that can damage synthetic rope.
>
> The usual choice for synthetic rope is nothing more than a polished
> aluminum hawse (fairlead). Fancy Delrin-coated roller fairleads are now
> available too. Avoid pure Delrin hawse-style fairleads as they can
> deflect under load and allow the rope to be dragged across the frame
> underneath.
>
> Jerry
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> > They say "Caution! We recommend using only fairleads designed for use
with
> > ropes! Ordinary roller fairleads can snag and damage winch ropes!"
> > What's the difference between the fairleads?
> >
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:jP%yf.12585$V.2617@fed1read04...
> >
> >>I'm on my 4th rope and after three wire ropes, I went with 100' of 3/8"
> >> of the Amsteel synthetic rope at
> >>http://www.4x4rockshop.com/Scripts/p...idproduct=9982 which is
> >>about the best deal I have seen.
> >>
> >>Safer, won't fly back and kill/maim someone if something breaks, and the
> >>3/8" synthetic has a 19.6K lb. breaking strength. It's a good rope,
> >>required in sanctioned rock crawling events and I highly recommend
> >>synthetic rope.
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >>
> >>jbjeep wrote:
> >>
> >>>Any body running winch rope?
> >>>What brand do you have?
> >>>What length and size do you run?
> >>>What are the pro's and con's of rope?
> >>>What do you like and dislike about what you have?
> >>>
> >>>All pertinent comments appreciated. I need to order some this week - I
> >
> > busted my
> >
> >>>cable some.
> >>>
> >>>-jenn
> >>
> >>--
> >>Jerry Bransford
> >>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:S28zf.13982$V.5830@fed1read04...
> Dave, they want you to avoid using standard a standard roller fair lead
> with synthetic rope because it can get caught in the corner and become
> damaged, or a steel hawse that has become damaged from wire rope so it
> might have sharp edges on it that can damage synthetic rope.
>
> The usual choice for synthetic rope is nothing more than a polished
> aluminum hawse (fairlead). Fancy Delrin-coated roller fairleads are now
> available too. Avoid pure Delrin hawse-style fairleads as they can
> deflect under load and allow the rope to be dragged across the frame
> underneath.
>
> Jerry
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> > They say "Caution! We recommend using only fairleads designed for use
with
> > ropes! Ordinary roller fairleads can snag and damage winch ropes!"
> > What's the difference between the fairleads?
> >
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:jP%yf.12585$V.2617@fed1read04...
> >
> >>I'm on my 4th rope and after three wire ropes, I went with 100' of 3/8"
> >> of the Amsteel synthetic rope at
> >>http://www.4x4rockshop.com/Scripts/p...idproduct=9982 which is
> >>about the best deal I have seen.
> >>
> >>Safer, won't fly back and kill/maim someone if something breaks, and the
> >>3/8" synthetic has a 19.6K lb. breaking strength. It's a good rope,
> >>required in sanctioned rock crawling events and I highly recommend
> >>synthetic rope.
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >>
> >>jbjeep wrote:
> >>
> >>>Any body running winch rope?
> >>>What brand do you have?
> >>>What length and size do you run?
> >>>What are the pro's and con's of rope?
> >>>What do you like and dislike about what you have?
> >>>
> >>>All pertinent comments appreciated. I need to order some this week - I
> >
> > busted my
> >
> >>>cable some.
> >>>
> >>>-jenn
> >>
> >>--
> >>Jerry Bransford
> >>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
01-17-2006, 03:28 PM
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Re: Winch Rope
This would telling me all I need to know.
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billy ray wrote:
>
> $79.95
> http://www.4x4rockshop.com/Scripts/p...dproduct=10017
>
> Please note; Delrin = plastic
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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billy ray wrote:
>
> $79.95
> http://www.4x4rockshop.com/Scripts/p...dproduct=10017
>
> Please note; Delrin = plastic
01-17-2006, 03:28 PM
#33
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Re: Winch Rope
This would telling me all I need to know.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> $79.95
> http://www.4x4rockshop.com/Scripts/p...dproduct=10017
>
> Please note; Delrin = plastic
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> $79.95
> http://www.4x4rockshop.com/Scripts/p...dproduct=10017
>
> Please note; Delrin = plastic
01-17-2006, 03:28 PM
#34
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Re: Winch Rope
This would telling me all I need to know.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> $79.95
> http://www.4x4rockshop.com/Scripts/p...dproduct=10017
>
> Please note; Delrin = plastic
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> $79.95
> http://www.4x4rockshop.com/Scripts/p...dproduct=10017
>
> Please note; Delrin = plastic
01-17-2006, 03:30 PM
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Re: Winch Rope
Energy = heat.
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Isn't there an overheating issue with some winches using that rope?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Isn't there an overheating issue with some winches using that rope?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
01-17-2006, 03:30 PM
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Re: Winch Rope
Energy = heat.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Isn't there an overheating issue with some winches using that rope?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Isn't there an overheating issue with some winches using that rope?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
01-17-2006, 03:30 PM
#37
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Re: Winch Rope
Energy = heat.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Isn't there an overheating issue with some winches using that rope?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Isn't there an overheating issue with some winches using that rope?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
01-17-2006, 09:43 PM
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Re: Winch Rope
Straight from Warn this morning when I asked about using rope on my XD9000:
>>When running synthetic winch line on our planetary winches you will
>>want to avoid "powering out" as much as possible. When using the winch
>>to feed line off of the winch there is a tremendous amount of heat
>>created by the internal brake in the winch. Whenever possible put the
>>winch in freespool and pull the line out by hand.
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:17:06 GMT, "Grumman-581"
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>"Dave Milne" wrote in message
>>news:PZ2zf.2523$wl.1794@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>> They say "Caution! We recommend using only fairleads designed for use with
>>> ropes! Ordinary roller fairleads can snag and damage winch ropes!"
>>> What's the difference between the fairleads?
>>
>>The difference in the roller fairleads were that they were made from delrin
>>instead of metal... Considering how scratched a metal fairlead can get with
>>cable going through it, I don't think it would be good for a rope to use the
>>same fairlead without replacement... I think I'll stick with metal... I
>>don't like their temperature limitations of 150F for the rope... I live in
>>Houston and once you combine a 100+F day with the heat from the asphalt, I
>>wouldn't be surprised if it didn't get up near there during the day...
>>
>>When running synthetic winch line on our planetary winches you will
>>want to avoid "powering out" as much as possible. When using the winch
>>to feed line off of the winch there is a tremendous amount of heat
>>created by the internal brake in the winch. Whenever possible put the
>>winch in freespool and pull the line out by hand.
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:17:06 GMT, "Grumman-581"
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>"Dave Milne" wrote in message
>>news:PZ2zf.2523$wl.1794@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>> They say "Caution! We recommend using only fairleads designed for use with
>>> ropes! Ordinary roller fairleads can snag and damage winch ropes!"
>>> What's the difference between the fairleads?
>>
>>The difference in the roller fairleads were that they were made from delrin
>>instead of metal... Considering how scratched a metal fairlead can get with
>>cable going through it, I don't think it would be good for a rope to use the
>>same fairlead without replacement... I think I'll stick with metal... I
>>don't like their temperature limitations of 150F for the rope... I live in
>>Houston and once you combine a 100+F day with the heat from the asphalt, I
>>wouldn't be surprised if it didn't get up near there during the day...
>>
01-17-2006, 09:43 PM
#39
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Re: Winch Rope
Straight from Warn this morning when I asked about using rope on my XD9000:
>>When running synthetic winch line on our planetary winches you will
>>want to avoid "powering out" as much as possible. When using the winch
>>to feed line off of the winch there is a tremendous amount of heat
>>created by the internal brake in the winch. Whenever possible put the
>>winch in freespool and pull the line out by hand.
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:17:06 GMT, "Grumman-581"
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>"Dave Milne" wrote in message
>>news:PZ2zf.2523$wl.1794@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>> They say "Caution! We recommend using only fairleads designed for use with
>>> ropes! Ordinary roller fairleads can snag and damage winch ropes!"
>>> What's the difference between the fairleads?
>>
>>The difference in the roller fairleads were that they were made from delrin
>>instead of metal... Considering how scratched a metal fairlead can get with
>>cable going through it, I don't think it would be good for a rope to use the
>>same fairlead without replacement... I think I'll stick with metal... I
>>don't like their temperature limitations of 150F for the rope... I live in
>>Houston and once you combine a 100+F day with the heat from the asphalt, I
>>wouldn't be surprised if it didn't get up near there during the day...
>>
>>When running synthetic winch line on our planetary winches you will
>>want to avoid "powering out" as much as possible. When using the winch
>>to feed line off of the winch there is a tremendous amount of heat
>>created by the internal brake in the winch. Whenever possible put the
>>winch in freespool and pull the line out by hand.
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:17:06 GMT, "Grumman-581"
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>"Dave Milne" wrote in message
>>news:PZ2zf.2523$wl.1794@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>> They say "Caution! We recommend using only fairleads designed for use with
>>> ropes! Ordinary roller fairleads can snag and damage winch ropes!"
>>> What's the difference between the fairleads?
>>
>>The difference in the roller fairleads were that they were made from delrin
>>instead of metal... Considering how scratched a metal fairlead can get with
>>cable going through it, I don't think it would be good for a rope to use the
>>same fairlead without replacement... I think I'll stick with metal... I
>>don't like their temperature limitations of 150F for the rope... I live in
>>Houston and once you combine a 100+F day with the heat from the asphalt, I
>>wouldn't be surprised if it didn't get up near there during the day...
>>
01-17-2006, 09:43 PM
#40
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Re: Winch Rope
Straight from Warn this morning when I asked about using rope on my XD9000:
>>When running synthetic winch line on our planetary winches you will
>>want to avoid "powering out" as much as possible. When using the winch
>>to feed line off of the winch there is a tremendous amount of heat
>>created by the internal brake in the winch. Whenever possible put the
>>winch in freespool and pull the line out by hand.
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:17:06 GMT, "Grumman-581"
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>"Dave Milne" wrote in message
>>news:PZ2zf.2523$wl.1794@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>> They say "Caution! We recommend using only fairleads designed for use with
>>> ropes! Ordinary roller fairleads can snag and damage winch ropes!"
>>> What's the difference between the fairleads?
>>
>>The difference in the roller fairleads were that they were made from delrin
>>instead of metal... Considering how scratched a metal fairlead can get with
>>cable going through it, I don't think it would be good for a rope to use the
>>same fairlead without replacement... I think I'll stick with metal... I
>>don't like their temperature limitations of 150F for the rope... I live in
>>Houston and once you combine a 100+F day with the heat from the asphalt, I
>>wouldn't be surprised if it didn't get up near there during the day...
>>
>>When running synthetic winch line on our planetary winches you will
>>want to avoid "powering out" as much as possible. When using the winch
>>to feed line off of the winch there is a tremendous amount of heat
>>created by the internal brake in the winch. Whenever possible put the
>>winch in freespool and pull the line out by hand.
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:17:06 GMT, "Grumman-581"
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>"Dave Milne" wrote in message
>>news:PZ2zf.2523$wl.1794@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>> They say "Caution! We recommend using only fairleads designed for use with
>>> ropes! Ordinary roller fairleads can snag and damage winch ropes!"
>>> What's the difference between the fairleads?
>>
>>The difference in the roller fairleads were that they were made from delrin
>>instead of metal... Considering how scratched a metal fairlead can get with
>>cable going through it, I don't think it would be good for a rope to use the
>>same fairlead without replacement... I think I'll stick with metal... I
>>don't like their temperature limitations of 150F for the rope... I live in
>>Houston and once you combine a 100+F day with the heat from the asphalt, I
>>wouldn't be surprised if it didn't get up near there during the day...
>>