Winch question
12-29-2003, 03:33 PM
#51
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winch question
Hi Mike,
Guiding a winch cable without gloves - never. My method has worked great
for me and the guys I ride with for many years. If you have someone hold
the end and apply pressure, you will get more than just their body weight.
Using common sense and holding the cable a few feet back from the winch,
will keep your hands out of the fairleads.
With the black cloud that hangs over your head, you should stick to you
method. :-)
JimG
@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3FF02B6F.9905A2E1@sympatico.ca...
> You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> local emergency room doctors quickly.
>
> Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
>
> The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> weight.
>
> This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> your hand and wind them up with the cable.
>
> The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> the cable spurs grabs it.
>
> A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> cuts.
>
> I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> brake when I wind mine up after a run.
>
> I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> either.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Terry Jeffrey wrote:
> >
> > Yup, this is all that is needed to respool. Use gloves too :)
> >
> > Keith - you'll like the XD9000i. No problems yet with mine, and it sure
> > looks good!
> >
> > Terry.
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:qpIHb.32191$LY4.10332@news01.roc.ny...
> > > If available I have someone hold the hook with the cable extended, as
I
> > > guide it back on. If no help is available, a tight grip on the cable
> > while
> > > being re-spooled will do.
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > "KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:VbIHb.687061$Fm2.593662@attbi_s04...
> > > > JimG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Nice choice for your winch! There is no way that you can (or
should)
> > > try
> > > > > to
> > > > > guide the cable while winching the weight of your Jeep. Re-spool
the
> > > > > cable once your done, so it will be right for the next job.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > JimG
> > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > OK, but I thought it was supposed to always be re-spooled *under
load*
> > so
> > > > the higher layers don't cut into the lower. So then how do you make
it
> > > neat
> > > > under load??
> > > >
> > > > BTW, how much benefit do you find with the dual battey setup?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Keith
> > > > 98 TJ
> > > > 86 Mustang GT
> > >
> > >
Guiding a winch cable without gloves - never. My method has worked great
for me and the guys I ride with for many years. If you have someone hold
the end and apply pressure, you will get more than just their body weight.
Using common sense and holding the cable a few feet back from the winch,
will keep your hands out of the fairleads.
With the black cloud that hangs over your head, you should stick to you
method. :-)
JimG
@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3FF02B6F.9905A2E1@sympatico.ca...
> You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> local emergency room doctors quickly.
>
> Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
>
> The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> weight.
>
> This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> your hand and wind them up with the cable.
>
> The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> the cable spurs grabs it.
>
> A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> cuts.
>
> I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> brake when I wind mine up after a run.
>
> I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> either.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Terry Jeffrey wrote:
> >
> > Yup, this is all that is needed to respool. Use gloves too :)
> >
> > Keith - you'll like the XD9000i. No problems yet with mine, and it sure
> > looks good!
> >
> > Terry.
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:qpIHb.32191$LY4.10332@news01.roc.ny...
> > > If available I have someone hold the hook with the cable extended, as
I
> > > guide it back on. If no help is available, a tight grip on the cable
> > while
> > > being re-spooled will do.
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > "KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:VbIHb.687061$Fm2.593662@attbi_s04...
> > > > JimG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Nice choice for your winch! There is no way that you can (or
should)
> > > try
> > > > > to
> > > > > guide the cable while winching the weight of your Jeep. Re-spool
the
> > > > > cable once your done, so it will be right for the next job.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > JimG
> > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > OK, but I thought it was supposed to always be re-spooled *under
load*
> > so
> > > > the higher layers don't cut into the lower. So then how do you make
it
> > > neat
> > > > under load??
> > > >
> > > > BTW, how much benefit do you find with the dual battey setup?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Keith
> > > > 98 TJ
> > > > 86 Mustang GT
> > >
> > >
12-29-2003, 03:33 PM
#52
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winch question
Hi Mike,
Guiding a winch cable without gloves - never. My method has worked great
for me and the guys I ride with for many years. If you have someone hold
the end and apply pressure, you will get more than just their body weight.
Using common sense and holding the cable a few feet back from the winch,
will keep your hands out of the fairleads.
With the black cloud that hangs over your head, you should stick to you
method. :-)
JimG
@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3FF02B6F.9905A2E1@sympatico.ca...
> You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> local emergency room doctors quickly.
>
> Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
>
> The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> weight.
>
> This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> your hand and wind them up with the cable.
>
> The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> the cable spurs grabs it.
>
> A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> cuts.
>
> I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> brake when I wind mine up after a run.
>
> I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> either.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Terry Jeffrey wrote:
> >
> > Yup, this is all that is needed to respool. Use gloves too :)
> >
> > Keith - you'll like the XD9000i. No problems yet with mine, and it sure
> > looks good!
> >
> > Terry.
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:qpIHb.32191$LY4.10332@news01.roc.ny...
> > > If available I have someone hold the hook with the cable extended, as
I
> > > guide it back on. If no help is available, a tight grip on the cable
> > while
> > > being re-spooled will do.
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > "KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:VbIHb.687061$Fm2.593662@attbi_s04...
> > > > JimG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Nice choice for your winch! There is no way that you can (or
should)
> > > try
> > > > > to
> > > > > guide the cable while winching the weight of your Jeep. Re-spool
the
> > > > > cable once your done, so it will be right for the next job.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > JimG
> > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > OK, but I thought it was supposed to always be re-spooled *under
load*
> > so
> > > > the higher layers don't cut into the lower. So then how do you make
it
> > > neat
> > > > under load??
> > > >
> > > > BTW, how much benefit do you find with the dual battey setup?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Keith
> > > > 98 TJ
> > > > 86 Mustang GT
> > >
> > >
Guiding a winch cable without gloves - never. My method has worked great
for me and the guys I ride with for many years. If you have someone hold
the end and apply pressure, you will get more than just their body weight.
Using common sense and holding the cable a few feet back from the winch,
will keep your hands out of the fairleads.
With the black cloud that hangs over your head, you should stick to you
method. :-)
JimG
@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3FF02B6F.9905A2E1@sympatico.ca...
> You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> local emergency room doctors quickly.
>
> Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
>
> The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> weight.
>
> This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> your hand and wind them up with the cable.
>
> The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> the cable spurs grabs it.
>
> A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> cuts.
>
> I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> brake when I wind mine up after a run.
>
> I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> either.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Terry Jeffrey wrote:
> >
> > Yup, this is all that is needed to respool. Use gloves too :)
> >
> > Keith - you'll like the XD9000i. No problems yet with mine, and it sure
> > looks good!
> >
> > Terry.
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:qpIHb.32191$LY4.10332@news01.roc.ny...
> > > If available I have someone hold the hook with the cable extended, as
I
> > > guide it back on. If no help is available, a tight grip on the cable
> > while
> > > being re-spooled will do.
> > >
> > > JimG
> > >
> > > "KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:VbIHb.687061$Fm2.593662@attbi_s04...
> > > > JimG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Nice choice for your winch! There is no way that you can (or
should)
> > > try
> > > > > to
> > > > > guide the cable while winching the weight of your Jeep. Re-spool
the
> > > > > cable once your done, so it will be right for the next job.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > JimG
> > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > OK, but I thought it was supposed to always be re-spooled *under
load*
> > so
> > > > the higher layers don't cut into the lower. So then how do you make
it
> > > neat
> > > > under load??
> > > >
> > > > BTW, how much benefit do you find with the dual battey setup?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Keith
> > > > 98 TJ
> > > > 86 Mustang GT
> > >
> > >
12-29-2003, 05:19 PM
#56
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winch question
They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
still grab you.
The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
last winding.
I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
Mike
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Guiding a winch cable without gloves - never. My method has worked great
> for me and the guys I ride with for many years. If you have someone hold
> the end and apply pressure, you will get more than just their body weight.
> Using common sense and holding the cable a few feet back from the winch,
> will keep your hands out of the fairleads.
>
> With the black cloud that hangs over your head, you should stick to you
> method. :-)
>
> JimG
>
> @sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3FF02B6F.9905A2E1@sympatico.ca...
> > You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> > local emergency room doctors quickly.
> >
> > Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> > gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
> >
> > The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> > get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> > weight.
> >
> > This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> > wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> > your hand and wind them up with the cable.
> >
> > The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> > time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> > the cable spurs grabs it.
> >
> > A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> > cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> > cuts.
> >
> > I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> > brake when I wind mine up after a run.
> >
> > I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> > constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> > either.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Terry Jeffrey wrote:
> > >
> > > Yup, this is all that is needed to respool. Use gloves too :)
> > >
> > > Keith - you'll like the XD9000i. No problems yet with mine, and it sure
> > > looks good!
> > >
> > > Terry.
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qpIHb.32191$LY4.10332@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > If available I have someone hold the hook with the cable extended, as
> I
> > > > guide it back on. If no help is available, a tight grip on the cable
> > > while
> > > > being re-spooled will do.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:VbIHb.687061$Fm2.593662@attbi_s04...
> > > > > JimG wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nice choice for your winch! There is no way that you can (or
> should)
> > > > try
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > guide the cable while winching the weight of your Jeep. Re-spool
> the
> > > > > > cable once your done, so it will be right for the next job.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, but I thought it was supposed to always be re-spooled *under
> load*
> > > so
> > > > > the higher layers don't cut into the lower. So then how do you make
> it
> > > > neat
> > > > > under load??
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, how much benefit do you find with the dual battey setup?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Keith
> > > > > 98 TJ
> > > > > 86 Mustang GT
> > > >
> > > >
something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
still grab you.
The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
last winding.
I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
Mike
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Guiding a winch cable without gloves - never. My method has worked great
> for me and the guys I ride with for many years. If you have someone hold
> the end and apply pressure, you will get more than just their body weight.
> Using common sense and holding the cable a few feet back from the winch,
> will keep your hands out of the fairleads.
>
> With the black cloud that hangs over your head, you should stick to you
> method. :-)
>
> JimG
>
> @sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3FF02B6F.9905A2E1@sympatico.ca...
> > You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> > local emergency room doctors quickly.
> >
> > Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> > gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
> >
> > The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> > get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> > weight.
> >
> > This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> > wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> > your hand and wind them up with the cable.
> >
> > The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> > time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> > the cable spurs grabs it.
> >
> > A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> > cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> > cuts.
> >
> > I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> > brake when I wind mine up after a run.
> >
> > I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> > constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> > either.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Terry Jeffrey wrote:
> > >
> > > Yup, this is all that is needed to respool. Use gloves too :)
> > >
> > > Keith - you'll like the XD9000i. No problems yet with mine, and it sure
> > > looks good!
> > >
> > > Terry.
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qpIHb.32191$LY4.10332@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > If available I have someone hold the hook with the cable extended, as
> I
> > > > guide it back on. If no help is available, a tight grip on the cable
> > > while
> > > > being re-spooled will do.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:VbIHb.687061$Fm2.593662@attbi_s04...
> > > > > JimG wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nice choice for your winch! There is no way that you can (or
> should)
> > > > try
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > guide the cable while winching the weight of your Jeep. Re-spool
> the
> > > > > > cable once your done, so it will be right for the next job.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, but I thought it was supposed to always be re-spooled *under
> load*
> > > so
> > > > > the higher layers don't cut into the lower. So then how do you make
> it
> > > > neat
> > > > > under load??
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, how much benefit do you find with the dual battey setup?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Keith
> > > > > 98 TJ
> > > > > 86 Mustang GT
> > > >
> > > >
12-29-2003, 05:19 PM
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winch question
They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
still grab you.
The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
last winding.
I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
Mike
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Guiding a winch cable without gloves - never. My method has worked great
> for me and the guys I ride with for many years. If you have someone hold
> the end and apply pressure, you will get more than just their body weight.
> Using common sense and holding the cable a few feet back from the winch,
> will keep your hands out of the fairleads.
>
> With the black cloud that hangs over your head, you should stick to you
> method. :-)
>
> JimG
>
> @sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3FF02B6F.9905A2E1@sympatico.ca...
> > You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> > local emergency room doctors quickly.
> >
> > Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> > gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
> >
> > The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> > get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> > weight.
> >
> > This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> > wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> > your hand and wind them up with the cable.
> >
> > The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> > time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> > the cable spurs grabs it.
> >
> > A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> > cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> > cuts.
> >
> > I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> > brake when I wind mine up after a run.
> >
> > I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> > constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> > either.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Terry Jeffrey wrote:
> > >
> > > Yup, this is all that is needed to respool. Use gloves too :)
> > >
> > > Keith - you'll like the XD9000i. No problems yet with mine, and it sure
> > > looks good!
> > >
> > > Terry.
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qpIHb.32191$LY4.10332@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > If available I have someone hold the hook with the cable extended, as
> I
> > > > guide it back on. If no help is available, a tight grip on the cable
> > > while
> > > > being re-spooled will do.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:VbIHb.687061$Fm2.593662@attbi_s04...
> > > > > JimG wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nice choice for your winch! There is no way that you can (or
> should)
> > > > try
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > guide the cable while winching the weight of your Jeep. Re-spool
> the
> > > > > > cable once your done, so it will be right for the next job.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, but I thought it was supposed to always be re-spooled *under
> load*
> > > so
> > > > > the higher layers don't cut into the lower. So then how do you make
> it
> > > > neat
> > > > > under load??
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, how much benefit do you find with the dual battey setup?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Keith
> > > > > 98 TJ
> > > > > 86 Mustang GT
> > > >
> > > >
something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
still grab you.
The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
last winding.
I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
Mike
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Guiding a winch cable without gloves - never. My method has worked great
> for me and the guys I ride with for many years. If you have someone hold
> the end and apply pressure, you will get more than just their body weight.
> Using common sense and holding the cable a few feet back from the winch,
> will keep your hands out of the fairleads.
>
> With the black cloud that hangs over your head, you should stick to you
> method. :-)
>
> JimG
>
> @sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3FF02B6F.9905A2E1@sympatico.ca...
> > You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> > local emergency room doctors quickly.
> >
> > Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> > gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
> >
> > The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> > get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> > weight.
> >
> > This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> > wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> > your hand and wind them up with the cable.
> >
> > The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> > time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> > the cable spurs grabs it.
> >
> > A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> > cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> > cuts.
> >
> > I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> > brake when I wind mine up after a run.
> >
> > I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> > constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> > either.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Terry Jeffrey wrote:
> > >
> > > Yup, this is all that is needed to respool. Use gloves too :)
> > >
> > > Keith - you'll like the XD9000i. No problems yet with mine, and it sure
> > > looks good!
> > >
> > > Terry.
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qpIHb.32191$LY4.10332@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > If available I have someone hold the hook with the cable extended, as
> I
> > > > guide it back on. If no help is available, a tight grip on the cable
> > > while
> > > > being re-spooled will do.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:VbIHb.687061$Fm2.593662@attbi_s04...
> > > > > JimG wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nice choice for your winch! There is no way that you can (or
> should)
> > > > try
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > guide the cable while winching the weight of your Jeep. Re-spool
> the
> > > > > > cable once your done, so it will be right for the next job.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, but I thought it was supposed to always be re-spooled *under
> load*
> > > so
> > > > > the higher layers don't cut into the lower. So then how do you make
> it
> > > > neat
> > > > > under load??
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, how much benefit do you find with the dual battey setup?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Keith
> > > > > 98 TJ
> > > > > 86 Mustang GT
> > > >
> > > >
12-29-2003, 05:19 PM
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winch question
They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
still grab you.
The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
last winding.
I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
Mike
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Guiding a winch cable without gloves - never. My method has worked great
> for me and the guys I ride with for many years. If you have someone hold
> the end and apply pressure, you will get more than just their body weight.
> Using common sense and holding the cable a few feet back from the winch,
> will keep your hands out of the fairleads.
>
> With the black cloud that hangs over your head, you should stick to you
> method. :-)
>
> JimG
>
> @sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3FF02B6F.9905A2E1@sympatico.ca...
> > You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> > local emergency room doctors quickly.
> >
> > Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> > gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
> >
> > The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> > get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> > weight.
> >
> > This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> > wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> > your hand and wind them up with the cable.
> >
> > The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> > time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> > the cable spurs grabs it.
> >
> > A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> > cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> > cuts.
> >
> > I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> > brake when I wind mine up after a run.
> >
> > I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> > constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> > either.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Terry Jeffrey wrote:
> > >
> > > Yup, this is all that is needed to respool. Use gloves too :)
> > >
> > > Keith - you'll like the XD9000i. No problems yet with mine, and it sure
> > > looks good!
> > >
> > > Terry.
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qpIHb.32191$LY4.10332@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > If available I have someone hold the hook with the cable extended, as
> I
> > > > guide it back on. If no help is available, a tight grip on the cable
> > > while
> > > > being re-spooled will do.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:VbIHb.687061$Fm2.593662@attbi_s04...
> > > > > JimG wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nice choice for your winch! There is no way that you can (or
> should)
> > > > try
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > guide the cable while winching the weight of your Jeep. Re-spool
> the
> > > > > > cable once your done, so it will be right for the next job.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, but I thought it was supposed to always be re-spooled *under
> load*
> > > so
> > > > > the higher layers don't cut into the lower. So then how do you make
> it
> > > > neat
> > > > > under load??
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, how much benefit do you find with the dual battey setup?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Keith
> > > > > 98 TJ
> > > > > 86 Mustang GT
> > > >
> > > >
something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
still grab you.
The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
last winding.
I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
Mike
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Guiding a winch cable without gloves - never. My method has worked great
> for me and the guys I ride with for many years. If you have someone hold
> the end and apply pressure, you will get more than just their body weight.
> Using common sense and holding the cable a few feet back from the winch,
> will keep your hands out of the fairleads.
>
> With the black cloud that hangs over your head, you should stick to you
> method. :-)
>
> JimG
>
> @sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3FF02B6F.9905A2E1@sympatico.ca...
> > You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> > local emergency room doctors quickly.
> >
> > Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> > gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
> >
> > The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> > get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> > weight.
> >
> > This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> > wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> > your hand and wind them up with the cable.
> >
> > The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> > time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> > the cable spurs grabs it.
> >
> > A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> > cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> > cuts.
> >
> > I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> > brake when I wind mine up after a run.
> >
> > I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> > constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> > either.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Terry Jeffrey wrote:
> > >
> > > Yup, this is all that is needed to respool. Use gloves too :)
> > >
> > > Keith - you'll like the XD9000i. No problems yet with mine, and it sure
> > > looks good!
> > >
> > > Terry.
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qpIHb.32191$LY4.10332@news01.roc.ny...
> > > > If available I have someone hold the hook with the cable extended, as
> I
> > > > guide it back on. If no help is available, a tight grip on the cable
> > > while
> > > > being re-spooled will do.
> > > >
> > > > JimG
> > > >
> > > > "KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:VbIHb.687061$Fm2.593662@attbi_s04...
> > > > > JimG wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nice choice for your winch! There is no way that you can (or
> should)
> > > > try
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > guide the cable while winching the weight of your Jeep. Re-spool
> the
> > > > > > cable once your done, so it will be right for the next job.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JimG
> > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, but I thought it was supposed to always be re-spooled *under
> load*
> > > so
> > > > > the higher layers don't cut into the lower. So then how do you make
> it
> > > > neat
> > > > > under load??
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, how much benefit do you find with the dual battey setup?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Keith
> > > > > 98 TJ
> > > > > 86 Mustang GT
> > > >
> > > >
12-29-2003, 05:38 PM
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winch question
Mike Romain wrote:
> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
> still grab you.
>
> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
> last winding.
>
> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
>
> Mike
>
Mike,
How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is it
shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?
--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT
> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
> still grab you.
>
> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
> last winding.
>
> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
>
> Mike
>
Mike,
How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is it
shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?
--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT
12-29-2003, 05:38 PM
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Winch question
Mike Romain wrote:
> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
> still grab you.
>
> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
> last winding.
>
> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
>
> Mike
>
Mike,
How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is it
shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?
--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT
> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
> still grab you.
>
> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
> last winding.
>
> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
>
> Mike
>
Mike,
How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is it
shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?
--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT