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fraserwag@yahoo.com 06-16-2007 04:57 PM

Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Hi All,

94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles

I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
up on the cheap.

The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.

Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.

I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.

I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.

S.


Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 05:16 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
The new size is exactly 1 inch larger than the tires you have now. The revs
per mile will change from 713 on the current size to 689 on the new size.
I'm not sure, but the affect on the speedo should be negligable. The speedo
will slow a bit, if 60 displayed now is really 56, then 60 displayed with
the new tires will be very close to exactly 60, maybe 61 or so. There is a
formula that I'm not sure about, but it can't be difficult and my guess is
close enough for this discussion.






<fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182027432.456701.96100@q69g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi All,
>
> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>
> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
> up on the cheap.
>
> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>
> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>
> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>
> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>
> S.
>



Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 05:16 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
The new size is exactly 1 inch larger than the tires you have now. The revs
per mile will change from 713 on the current size to 689 on the new size.
I'm not sure, but the affect on the speedo should be negligable. The speedo
will slow a bit, if 60 displayed now is really 56, then 60 displayed with
the new tires will be very close to exactly 60, maybe 61 or so. There is a
formula that I'm not sure about, but it can't be difficult and my guess is
close enough for this discussion.






<fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182027432.456701.96100@q69g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi All,
>
> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>
> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
> up on the cheap.
>
> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>
> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>
> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>
> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>
> S.
>



Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 05:16 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
The new size is exactly 1 inch larger than the tires you have now. The revs
per mile will change from 713 on the current size to 689 on the new size.
I'm not sure, but the affect on the speedo should be negligable. The speedo
will slow a bit, if 60 displayed now is really 56, then 60 displayed with
the new tires will be very close to exactly 60, maybe 61 or so. There is a
formula that I'm not sure about, but it can't be difficult and my guess is
close enough for this discussion.






<fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182027432.456701.96100@q69g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi All,
>
> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>
> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
> up on the cheap.
>
> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>
> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>
> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>
> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>
> S.
>



Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 05:16 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
The new size is exactly 1 inch larger than the tires you have now. The revs
per mile will change from 713 on the current size to 689 on the new size.
I'm not sure, but the affect on the speedo should be negligable. The speedo
will slow a bit, if 60 displayed now is really 56, then 60 displayed with
the new tires will be very close to exactly 60, maybe 61 or so. There is a
formula that I'm not sure about, but it can't be difficult and my guess is
close enough for this discussion.






<fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182027432.456701.96100@q69g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi All,
>
> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>
> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
> up on the cheap.
>
> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>
> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>
> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>
> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>
> S.
>



c 06-16-2007 06:37 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> The new size is exactly 1 inch larger than the tires you have now. The
> revs per mile will change from 713 on the current size to 689 on the new
> size. I'm not sure, but the affect on the speedo should be negligable.
> The speedo will slow a bit, if 60 displayed now is really 56, then 60
> displayed with the new tires will be very close to exactly 60, maybe 61
> or so. There is a formula that I'm not sure about, but it can't be
> difficult and my guess is close enough for this discussion.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1182027432.456701.96100@q69g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>>
>> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
>> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
>> up on the cheap.
>>
>> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>>
>> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
>> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
>> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>>
>> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>>
>> S.
>>

>


It is strictly a change in the percentage of tire height. For instance,
if you go from 30" to 33" tires, the change is 10%. In this case your
speedo would read 10% slow, so when you are going 60, the speedo will
read 54mph. This is assuming the speedo is correct with the current
tires, like you mentioned.

for the OP, your original tires are 28.3" and the new ones would be
29.3". This is an increase of about 3.5%, which means that at 60mph,
your speedo will read about 2 mph slower than it does now.

Also remember that tires very rarely are manufactured to exactly the
size printed on them. Between manufacturing tolerances of the tires, and
the fact that your speedo probably isn't exactly right, I really
wouldn't worry about it.

Chris

c 06-16-2007 06:37 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> The new size is exactly 1 inch larger than the tires you have now. The
> revs per mile will change from 713 on the current size to 689 on the new
> size. I'm not sure, but the affect on the speedo should be negligable.
> The speedo will slow a bit, if 60 displayed now is really 56, then 60
> displayed with the new tires will be very close to exactly 60, maybe 61
> or so. There is a formula that I'm not sure about, but it can't be
> difficult and my guess is close enough for this discussion.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1182027432.456701.96100@q69g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>>
>> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
>> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
>> up on the cheap.
>>
>> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>>
>> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
>> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
>> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>>
>> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>>
>> S.
>>

>


It is strictly a change in the percentage of tire height. For instance,
if you go from 30" to 33" tires, the change is 10%. In this case your
speedo would read 10% slow, so when you are going 60, the speedo will
read 54mph. This is assuming the speedo is correct with the current
tires, like you mentioned.

for the OP, your original tires are 28.3" and the new ones would be
29.3". This is an increase of about 3.5%, which means that at 60mph,
your speedo will read about 2 mph slower than it does now.

Also remember that tires very rarely are manufactured to exactly the
size printed on them. Between manufacturing tolerances of the tires, and
the fact that your speedo probably isn't exactly right, I really
wouldn't worry about it.

Chris

c 06-16-2007 06:37 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> The new size is exactly 1 inch larger than the tires you have now. The
> revs per mile will change from 713 on the current size to 689 on the new
> size. I'm not sure, but the affect on the speedo should be negligable.
> The speedo will slow a bit, if 60 displayed now is really 56, then 60
> displayed with the new tires will be very close to exactly 60, maybe 61
> or so. There is a formula that I'm not sure about, but it can't be
> difficult and my guess is close enough for this discussion.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1182027432.456701.96100@q69g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>>
>> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
>> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
>> up on the cheap.
>>
>> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>>
>> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
>> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
>> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>>
>> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>>
>> S.
>>

>


It is strictly a change in the percentage of tire height. For instance,
if you go from 30" to 33" tires, the change is 10%. In this case your
speedo would read 10% slow, so when you are going 60, the speedo will
read 54mph. This is assuming the speedo is correct with the current
tires, like you mentioned.

for the OP, your original tires are 28.3" and the new ones would be
29.3". This is an increase of about 3.5%, which means that at 60mph,
your speedo will read about 2 mph slower than it does now.

Also remember that tires very rarely are manufactured to exactly the
size printed on them. Between manufacturing tolerances of the tires, and
the fact that your speedo probably isn't exactly right, I really
wouldn't worry about it.

Chris

c 06-16-2007 06:37 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> The new size is exactly 1 inch larger than the tires you have now. The
> revs per mile will change from 713 on the current size to 689 on the new
> size. I'm not sure, but the affect on the speedo should be negligable.
> The speedo will slow a bit, if 60 displayed now is really 56, then 60
> displayed with the new tires will be very close to exactly 60, maybe 61
> or so. There is a formula that I'm not sure about, but it can't be
> difficult and my guess is close enough for this discussion.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1182027432.456701.96100@q69g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>>
>> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
>> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
>> up on the cheap.
>>
>> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>>
>> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
>> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
>> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>>
>> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>>
>> S.
>>

>


It is strictly a change in the percentage of tire height. For instance,
if you go from 30" to 33" tires, the change is 10%. In this case your
speedo would read 10% slow, so when you are going 60, the speedo will
read 54mph. This is assuming the speedo is correct with the current
tires, like you mentioned.

for the OP, your original tires are 28.3" and the new ones would be
29.3". This is an increase of about 3.5%, which means that at 60mph,
your speedo will read about 2 mph slower than it does now.

Also remember that tires very rarely are manufactured to exactly the
size printed on them. Between manufacturing tolerances of the tires, and
the fact that your speedo probably isn't exactly right, I really
wouldn't worry about it.

Chris

fraserwag@yahoo.com 06-16-2007 06:45 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
'94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?

Thanks again.

S.

On Jun 16, 3:57 pm, fraser...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>
> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
> up on the cheap.
>
> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>
> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>
> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>
> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>
> S.




fraserwag@yahoo.com 06-16-2007 06:45 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
'94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?

Thanks again.

S.

On Jun 16, 3:57 pm, fraser...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>
> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
> up on the cheap.
>
> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>
> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>
> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>
> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>
> S.




fraserwag@yahoo.com 06-16-2007 06:45 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
'94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?

Thanks again.

S.

On Jun 16, 3:57 pm, fraser...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>
> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
> up on the cheap.
>
> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>
> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>
> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>
> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>
> S.




fraserwag@yahoo.com 06-16-2007 06:45 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
'94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?

Thanks again.

S.

On Jun 16, 3:57 pm, fraser...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>
> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
> up on the cheap.
>
> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>
> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>
> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>
> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>
> S.




Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 07:09 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:46746644$0$28124$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> The new size is exactly 1 inch larger than the tires you have now. The
>> revs per mile will change from 713 on the current size to 689 on the new
>> size. I'm not sure, but the affect on the speedo should be negligable.
>> The speedo will slow a bit, if 60 displayed now is really 56, then 60
>> displayed with the new tires will be very close to exactly 60, maybe 61
>> or so. There is a formula that I'm not sure about, but it can't be
>> difficult and my guess is close enough for this discussion.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1182027432.456701.96100@q69g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>>>
>>> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
>>> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
>>> up on the cheap.
>>>
>>> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>>>
>>> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
>>> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
>>> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>>>
>>> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>>>
>>> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>>>
>>> S.
>>>

>>

>
> It is strictly a change in the percentage of tire height. For instance, if
> you go from 30" to 33" tires, the change is 10%. In this case your speedo
> would read 10% slow, so when you are going 60, the speedo will read 54mph.
> This is assuming the speedo is correct with the current tires, like you
> mentioned.
>
> for the OP, your original tires are 28.3" and the new ones would be 29.3".
> This is an increase of about 3.5%, which means that at 60mph, your speedo
> will read about 2 mph slower than it does now.
>


Agreed. I just didn't do the simple math.

And, "slower" means that if the current speedo reading of 60 is really 56
(speedos typically read too fast so you can't complain to the officer that
your car made you get a ticket) then with the tire change, when the speedo
reads 60, the actual ground speed will be something like 58.5. Speedometer
science is not an exact one, so your mileage may vary ...




> Also remember that tires very rarely are manufactured to exactly the size
> printed on them. Between manufacturing tolerances of the tires, and the
> fact that your speedo probably isn't exactly right, I really wouldn't
> worry about it.
>
> Chris


I agree with this point completely.

The main issue the OP will face is the lug bolt pattern and the offset, and
I am almost positive that both of these are not a problem. The lug pattern
is a 5 on 4.5 (5 holes on a 4.5 inch circle), and the offset is the same.


Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 07:09 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:46746644$0$28124$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> The new size is exactly 1 inch larger than the tires you have now. The
>> revs per mile will change from 713 on the current size to 689 on the new
>> size. I'm not sure, but the affect on the speedo should be negligable.
>> The speedo will slow a bit, if 60 displayed now is really 56, then 60
>> displayed with the new tires will be very close to exactly 60, maybe 61
>> or so. There is a formula that I'm not sure about, but it can't be
>> difficult and my guess is close enough for this discussion.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1182027432.456701.96100@q69g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>>>
>>> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
>>> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
>>> up on the cheap.
>>>
>>> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>>>
>>> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
>>> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
>>> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>>>
>>> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>>>
>>> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>>>
>>> S.
>>>

>>

>
> It is strictly a change in the percentage of tire height. For instance, if
> you go from 30" to 33" tires, the change is 10%. In this case your speedo
> would read 10% slow, so when you are going 60, the speedo will read 54mph.
> This is assuming the speedo is correct with the current tires, like you
> mentioned.
>
> for the OP, your original tires are 28.3" and the new ones would be 29.3".
> This is an increase of about 3.5%, which means that at 60mph, your speedo
> will read about 2 mph slower than it does now.
>


Agreed. I just didn't do the simple math.

And, "slower" means that if the current speedo reading of 60 is really 56
(speedos typically read too fast so you can't complain to the officer that
your car made you get a ticket) then with the tire change, when the speedo
reads 60, the actual ground speed will be something like 58.5. Speedometer
science is not an exact one, so your mileage may vary ...




> Also remember that tires very rarely are manufactured to exactly the size
> printed on them. Between manufacturing tolerances of the tires, and the
> fact that your speedo probably isn't exactly right, I really wouldn't
> worry about it.
>
> Chris


I agree with this point completely.

The main issue the OP will face is the lug bolt pattern and the offset, and
I am almost positive that both of these are not a problem. The lug pattern
is a 5 on 4.5 (5 holes on a 4.5 inch circle), and the offset is the same.


Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 07:09 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:46746644$0$28124$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> The new size is exactly 1 inch larger than the tires you have now. The
>> revs per mile will change from 713 on the current size to 689 on the new
>> size. I'm not sure, but the affect on the speedo should be negligable.
>> The speedo will slow a bit, if 60 displayed now is really 56, then 60
>> displayed with the new tires will be very close to exactly 60, maybe 61
>> or so. There is a formula that I'm not sure about, but it can't be
>> difficult and my guess is close enough for this discussion.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1182027432.456701.96100@q69g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>>>
>>> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
>>> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
>>> up on the cheap.
>>>
>>> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>>>
>>> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
>>> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
>>> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>>>
>>> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>>>
>>> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>>>
>>> S.
>>>

>>

>
> It is strictly a change in the percentage of tire height. For instance, if
> you go from 30" to 33" tires, the change is 10%. In this case your speedo
> would read 10% slow, so when you are going 60, the speedo will read 54mph.
> This is assuming the speedo is correct with the current tires, like you
> mentioned.
>
> for the OP, your original tires are 28.3" and the new ones would be 29.3".
> This is an increase of about 3.5%, which means that at 60mph, your speedo
> will read about 2 mph slower than it does now.
>


Agreed. I just didn't do the simple math.

And, "slower" means that if the current speedo reading of 60 is really 56
(speedos typically read too fast so you can't complain to the officer that
your car made you get a ticket) then with the tire change, when the speedo
reads 60, the actual ground speed will be something like 58.5. Speedometer
science is not an exact one, so your mileage may vary ...




> Also remember that tires very rarely are manufactured to exactly the size
> printed on them. Between manufacturing tolerances of the tires, and the
> fact that your speedo probably isn't exactly right, I really wouldn't
> worry about it.
>
> Chris


I agree with this point completely.

The main issue the OP will face is the lug bolt pattern and the offset, and
I am almost positive that both of these are not a problem. The lug pattern
is a 5 on 4.5 (5 holes on a 4.5 inch circle), and the offset is the same.


Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 07:09 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:46746644$0$28124$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>> The new size is exactly 1 inch larger than the tires you have now. The
>> revs per mile will change from 713 on the current size to 689 on the new
>> size. I'm not sure, but the affect on the speedo should be negligable.
>> The speedo will slow a bit, if 60 displayed now is really 56, then 60
>> displayed with the new tires will be very close to exactly 60, maybe 61
>> or so. There is a formula that I'm not sure about, but it can't be
>> difficult and my guess is close enough for this discussion.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1182027432.456701.96100@q69g2000hsb.googlegro ups.com...
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>>>
>>> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
>>> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
>>> up on the cheap.
>>>
>>> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>>>
>>> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
>>> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
>>> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>>>
>>> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>>>
>>> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>>>
>>> S.
>>>

>>

>
> It is strictly a change in the percentage of tire height. For instance, if
> you go from 30" to 33" tires, the change is 10%. In this case your speedo
> would read 10% slow, so when you are going 60, the speedo will read 54mph.
> This is assuming the speedo is correct with the current tires, like you
> mentioned.
>
> for the OP, your original tires are 28.3" and the new ones would be 29.3".
> This is an increase of about 3.5%, which means that at 60mph, your speedo
> will read about 2 mph slower than it does now.
>


Agreed. I just didn't do the simple math.

And, "slower" means that if the current speedo reading of 60 is really 56
(speedos typically read too fast so you can't complain to the officer that
your car made you get a ticket) then with the tire change, when the speedo
reads 60, the actual ground speed will be something like 58.5. Speedometer
science is not an exact one, so your mileage may vary ...




> Also remember that tires very rarely are manufactured to exactly the size
> printed on them. Between manufacturing tolerances of the tires, and the
> fact that your speedo probably isn't exactly right, I really wouldn't
> worry about it.
>
> Chris


I agree with this point completely.

The main issue the OP will face is the lug bolt pattern and the offset, and
I am almost positive that both of these are not a problem. The lug pattern
is a 5 on 4.5 (5 holes on a 4.5 inch circle), and the offset is the same.


Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 07:10 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Yes. They ought to fit.




<fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> S.
>
> On Jun 16, 3:57 pm, fraser...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>>
>> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
>> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
>> up on the cheap.
>>
>> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>>
>> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
>> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
>> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>>
>> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>>
>> S.

>
>



Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 07:10 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Yes. They ought to fit.




<fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> S.
>
> On Jun 16, 3:57 pm, fraser...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>>
>> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
>> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
>> up on the cheap.
>>
>> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>>
>> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
>> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
>> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>>
>> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>>
>> S.

>
>



Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 07:10 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Yes. They ought to fit.




<fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> S.
>
> On Jun 16, 3:57 pm, fraser...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>>
>> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
>> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
>> up on the cheap.
>>
>> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>>
>> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
>> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
>> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>>
>> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>>
>> S.

>
>



Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 07:10 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Yes. They ought to fit.




<fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> S.
>
> On Jun 16, 3:57 pm, fraser...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> 94 Cherokee SE, 5spd, 2WD, 125K miles
>>
>> I'm in need of a set of tires, and found someone (who upgraded)
>> selling new tires with rims from a late model Wrangler that I can pick
>> up on the cheap.
>>
>> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>>
>> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? I have P225/75/R15's on the thing
>> now. I understand the rim on the new tire is an inch taller, don't
>> think this presents a problem, but perhaps you can advise.
>>
>> I was curious to know if the new wheels will fit my existing hubs.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks very much.
>>
>> S.

>
>



L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-16-2007 08:58 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
I don't know about the new Wranglers, but all the rest of them have
switched from your five on four and a half inch hole pattern, to 5 x 5.12"
or 5 x 130 centimeter.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> S




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-16-2007 08:58 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
I don't know about the new Wranglers, but all the rest of them have
switched from your five on four and a half inch hole pattern, to 5 x 5.12"
or 5 x 130 centimeter.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> S




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-16-2007 08:58 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
I don't know about the new Wranglers, but all the rest of them have
switched from your five on four and a half inch hole pattern, to 5 x 5.12"
or 5 x 130 centimeter.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> S




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-16-2007 08:58 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
I don't know about the new Wranglers, but all the rest of them have
switched from your five on four and a half inch hole pattern, to 5 x 5.12"
or 5 x 130 centimeter.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


<fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> S




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Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 11:48 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
If Bill is correct, and that has been known to happen from time to time,
then you will run into problems.





"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:46747bc1$0$16347$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> I don't know about the new Wranglers, but all the rest of them have
> switched from your five on four and a half inch hole pattern, to 5 x
> 5.12"
> or 5 x 130 centimeter.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
>> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> S

>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>



Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 11:48 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
If Bill is correct, and that has been known to happen from time to time,
then you will run into problems.





"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:46747bc1$0$16347$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> I don't know about the new Wranglers, but all the rest of them have
> switched from your five on four and a half inch hole pattern, to 5 x
> 5.12"
> or 5 x 130 centimeter.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
>> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> S

>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>



Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 11:48 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
If Bill is correct, and that has been known to happen from time to time,
then you will run into problems.





"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:46747bc1$0$16347$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> I don't know about the new Wranglers, but all the rest of them have
> switched from your five on four and a half inch hole pattern, to 5 x
> 5.12"
> or 5 x 130 centimeter.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
>> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> S

>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>



Jeff Strickland 06-16-2007 11:48 PM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
If Bill is correct, and that has been known to happen from time to time,
then you will run into problems.





"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:46747bc1$0$16347$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> I don't know about the new Wranglers, but all the rest of them have
> switched from your five on four and a half inch hole pattern, to 5 x
> 5.12"
> or 5 x 130 centimeter.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> <fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
>> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> S

>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>



24BitŪ 06-17-2007 01:52 AM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:58:21 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

Don't say anything you FAT DUMB ASS FAG.

:> I don't know about the new Wranglers, but all the rest of them have
:>switched from your five on four and a half inch hole pattern, to 5 x 5.12"
:>or 5 x 130 centimeter.
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:><fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
:>news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googleg roups.com...
:>> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
:>> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
:>>
:>> Thanks again.
:>>
:>> S

24BitŪ 06-17-2007 01:52 AM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:58:21 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

Don't say anything you FAT DUMB ASS FAG.

:> I don't know about the new Wranglers, but all the rest of them have
:>switched from your five on four and a half inch hole pattern, to 5 x 5.12"
:>or 5 x 130 centimeter.
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:><fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
:>news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googleg roups.com...
:>> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
:>> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
:>>
:>> Thanks again.
:>>
:>> S

24BitŪ 06-17-2007 01:52 AM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:58:21 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

Don't say anything you FAT DUMB ASS FAG.

:> I don't know about the new Wranglers, but all the rest of them have
:>switched from your five on four and a half inch hole pattern, to 5 x 5.12"
:>or 5 x 130 centimeter.
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:><fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
:>news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googleg roups.com...
:>> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
:>> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
:>>
:>> Thanks again.
:>>
:>> S

24BitŪ 06-17-2007 01:52 AM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:58:21 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:

Don't say anything you FAT DUMB ASS FAG.

:> I don't know about the new Wranglers, but all the rest of them have
:>switched from your five on four and a half inch hole pattern, to 5 x 5.12"
:>or 5 x 130 centimeter.
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:><fraserwag@yahoo.com> wrote in message
:>news:1182033903.879271.244280@n2g2000hse.googleg roups.com...
:>> Thanks for insights, guys. So, the '07 Wrangle rims should fit my
:>> '94 Cherokee, correct? The bolt pattern is the same?
:>>
:>> Thanks again.
:>>
:>> S

LS 06-17-2007 08:06 AM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Hi fraserwag,
Went out and measured the bolt pattern on our 07 Wrangler. Indeed, the
new Wrangler has followed the other new Jeeps and gone to the five bolts on
a 130 mm (or 5.12 inch) bolt circle which is different than previous models.
Sorry.
Les
07 JK

> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>
> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? >




LS 06-17-2007 08:06 AM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Hi fraserwag,
Went out and measured the bolt pattern on our 07 Wrangler. Indeed, the
new Wrangler has followed the other new Jeeps and gone to the five bolts on
a 130 mm (or 5.12 inch) bolt circle which is different than previous models.
Sorry.
Les
07 JK

> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>
> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? >




LS 06-17-2007 08:06 AM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Hi fraserwag,
Went out and measured the bolt pattern on our 07 Wrangler. Indeed, the
new Wrangler has followed the other new Jeeps and gone to the five bolts on
a 130 mm (or 5.12 inch) bolt circle which is different than previous models.
Sorry.
Les
07 JK

> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>
> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? >




LS 06-17-2007 08:06 AM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
Hi fraserwag,
Went out and measured the bolt pattern on our 07 Wrangler. Indeed, the
new Wrangler has followed the other new Jeeps and gone to the five bolts on
a 130 mm (or 5.12 inch) bolt circle which is different than previous models.
Sorry.
Les
07 JK

> The tires are P225/75/R16's, on a 5 spoke, 5 lug rim.
>
> Will these fit on my 94 cherokee? >




Claude Horribly 06-17-2007 10:44 AM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:58:21 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

>
> I don't know about the new Wranglers



Or much else regarding jeeps.

Or cars.

Or life in general.





Claude Horribly 06-17-2007 10:44 AM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:58:21 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

>
> I don't know about the new Wranglers



Or much else regarding jeeps.

Or cars.

Or life in general.





Claude Horribly 06-17-2007 10:44 AM

Re: Will Wrangler 16' rims fit my 94 Cherokee hubs?
 
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:58:21 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

>
> I don't know about the new Wranglers



Or much else regarding jeeps.

Or cars.

Or life in general.






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