Will DCX do this to Jeep?
12-07-2005, 10:25 PM
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Will DCX do this to Jeep?
Or will they keep Jeep Jeep (hopefully, with a real-engine optionn
from VM or MBZ...)
Spring Hill: Another Utopia Bites the Dust
Nicholas von Hoffman
General Motors is on its way to closing what was once its industrial
utopia at Spring Hill, Tennessee. It was there in a free-market Eden
that the Saturn automobile was manufactured fifteen years ago in a
plant run with workers and managers sharing decision-making and
cooperating as equals.
Saturn was to be the different automobile, differently made and
differently sold, almost a company apart from the rest of GM, which was
laden with a long and grimy history and besieged by the growing volume
of imports from the Land of the Rising Sun.
As it has been with other American utopias, the hippie communes of
Mendocino County, California, in the 1960s, and Brook Farm and the
Oneida Community in the 1840s, Saturn and Spring Hill found their own
special spirit, flourished and died. Each perished for different
reasons. Spring Hill's oncoming death is due to its proprietor's
inattention, lack of follow-through, Wall Street and the managerial
dunderheadism afflicting the American automobile industry in general.
People bought Saturns not only because they liked the car but also
because they liked the one-price, no-haggle,
shoot-straight-with-the-customer policy and the attempt at a new
relationship between labor and management. The Saturn was a hit, but
GM, whipped by a mindless stock market and a desire to make more money
faster in the short run, began to starve the fledgling company of
capital and new models before Spring Hill had been open five years.
Although the automobile was invented by a European gentleman named
Gottlieb Daimler (1834-1900), nothing is so American as the motor car
and nothing would be such an affront to our national self-esteem as
seeing the end of the last two American-owned auto companies. Loss of
self-esteem is nothing compared to the impact on more than 13 million
workers directly and indirectly dependent on the industry. Obviously,
even in the event that the worst were to happen, as is freely being
discussed on the business pages, the many non-union workers in
foreign-owned auto assembly plants would carry on.
"We're not looking for a bailout," cried William Ford, the CEO whose
company bears his great grandfather's name, but, as reported in the
Washington Post, he and his company, as well as General Motors, are
looking for a package of bailouts from Washington. At least one, a
request that the Japanese revalue their currency to make their products
more expensive, is silly. "We can compete with Toyota, but we can't
compete with Japan," quoth Ford, who can't even compete in the National
Football League, where his hapless Detroit Lions are giving new meaning
to the term managerial dysfunction.
America's domestic auto industry, or what's left of it, is also asking
for help in dealing with its pension obligations and healthcare costs
for its workers and retirees. There is a certain irony in these calls
for assistance from the business world, which for years fought against
"socialized medicine." If they had supported it then, many companies
would not be in the fix they are in now.
Auto manufacturers are calling for government help in hydrogen and fuel
cell research, which the Energy Department is already involved in at
least up to its hubcaps. Perhaps more money ought to be tossed its way,
but it does not follow that lower costs in this area of power supply
would help Ford and GM, who want to put hybrid technology in SUVs,
although it was the American industry's fixation on SUVs and pickup
trucks to the detriment of long-range planning and other product
development that contributed to their present woes. "If we don't adapt
to changing markets and shifts in consumer demand, [then] like any
business, we deserve to suffer the consequences," declares Ford, whose
company has shown scant talent at adaptation recently and is suffering
the consequences.
If the immediate past is a guide, Ford and GM will follow up the latest
announcements of plant closings and layoffs with new announcements of
plant closings and layoffs. Even Wall Street, which usually jumps for
joy at the news of wholesale layoffs, has been unimpressed by the most
recent ones. It is possible that the two corporations will continue to
divest themselves of people and plant until there is no one left but
Ford and Rick Wagoner, his counterpart at General Motors. They won't be
making any cars or making any money, but they won't be losing the
billions they are now. How much of a consolation that will be to their
thousands of former workers remains to be seen.
from VM or MBZ...)
Spring Hill: Another Utopia Bites the Dust
Nicholas von Hoffman
General Motors is on its way to closing what was once its industrial
utopia at Spring Hill, Tennessee. It was there in a free-market Eden
that the Saturn automobile was manufactured fifteen years ago in a
plant run with workers and managers sharing decision-making and
cooperating as equals.
Saturn was to be the different automobile, differently made and
differently sold, almost a company apart from the rest of GM, which was
laden with a long and grimy history and besieged by the growing volume
of imports from the Land of the Rising Sun.
As it has been with other American utopias, the hippie communes of
Mendocino County, California, in the 1960s, and Brook Farm and the
Oneida Community in the 1840s, Saturn and Spring Hill found their own
special spirit, flourished and died. Each perished for different
reasons. Spring Hill's oncoming death is due to its proprietor's
inattention, lack of follow-through, Wall Street and the managerial
dunderheadism afflicting the American automobile industry in general.
People bought Saturns not only because they liked the car but also
because they liked the one-price, no-haggle,
shoot-straight-with-the-customer policy and the attempt at a new
relationship between labor and management. The Saturn was a hit, but
GM, whipped by a mindless stock market and a desire to make more money
faster in the short run, began to starve the fledgling company of
capital and new models before Spring Hill had been open five years.
Although the automobile was invented by a European gentleman named
Gottlieb Daimler (1834-1900), nothing is so American as the motor car
and nothing would be such an affront to our national self-esteem as
seeing the end of the last two American-owned auto companies. Loss of
self-esteem is nothing compared to the impact on more than 13 million
workers directly and indirectly dependent on the industry. Obviously,
even in the event that the worst were to happen, as is freely being
discussed on the business pages, the many non-union workers in
foreign-owned auto assembly plants would carry on.
"We're not looking for a bailout," cried William Ford, the CEO whose
company bears his great grandfather's name, but, as reported in the
Washington Post, he and his company, as well as General Motors, are
looking for a package of bailouts from Washington. At least one, a
request that the Japanese revalue their currency to make their products
more expensive, is silly. "We can compete with Toyota, but we can't
compete with Japan," quoth Ford, who can't even compete in the National
Football League, where his hapless Detroit Lions are giving new meaning
to the term managerial dysfunction.
America's domestic auto industry, or what's left of it, is also asking
for help in dealing with its pension obligations and healthcare costs
for its workers and retirees. There is a certain irony in these calls
for assistance from the business world, which for years fought against
"socialized medicine." If they had supported it then, many companies
would not be in the fix they are in now.
Auto manufacturers are calling for government help in hydrogen and fuel
cell research, which the Energy Department is already involved in at
least up to its hubcaps. Perhaps more money ought to be tossed its way,
but it does not follow that lower costs in this area of power supply
would help Ford and GM, who want to put hybrid technology in SUVs,
although it was the American industry's fixation on SUVs and pickup
trucks to the detriment of long-range planning and other product
development that contributed to their present woes. "If we don't adapt
to changing markets and shifts in consumer demand, [then] like any
business, we deserve to suffer the consequences," declares Ford, whose
company has shown scant talent at adaptation recently and is suffering
the consequences.
If the immediate past is a guide, Ford and GM will follow up the latest
announcements of plant closings and layoffs with new announcements of
plant closings and layoffs. Even Wall Street, which usually jumps for
joy at the news of wholesale layoffs, has been unimpressed by the most
recent ones. It is possible that the two corporations will continue to
divest themselves of people and plant until there is no one left but
Ford and Rick Wagoner, his counterpart at General Motors. They won't be
making any cars or making any money, but they won't be losing the
billions they are now. How much of a consolation that will be to their
thousands of former workers remains to be seen.
12-08-2005, 11:46 AM
#2
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Will DCX do this to Jeep?
Hey Bret,
Check out this article:
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005...2105181504.txt
The area is one of the the single most desirable places in middle Tennessee
to live for those 'yuppie types'. There are the best shops, best restaraunts
and it's a lovely, well maintained community. I wish I lived closer to it!
They may feel the layoffs to some degree but I seriously doubt that the
community would die. Property values are good and continue to increase at a
somewhat faster rate there than the rest of the state as far as I know.
On another note, there is another auto manufacturer moving to that area. I
forget who, I really didn't care. It was someone like Nissan I think...
nothing that interested me so I didn't wast any storage space on it..
KJK
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1134012334.987470.40560@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
: Or will they keep Jeep Jeep (hopefully, with a real-engine optionn
: from VM or MBZ...)
:
:
: Spring Hill: Another Utopia Bites the Dust
:
: Nicholas von Hoffman
:
: General Motors is on its way to closing what was once its industrial
: utopia at Spring Hill, Tennessee. It was there in a free-market Eden
: that the Saturn automobile was manufactured fifteen years ago in a
: plant run with workers and managers sharing decision-making and
: cooperating as equals.
:
: Saturn was to be the different automobile, differently made and
: differently sold, almost a company apart from the rest of GM, which was
: laden with a long and grimy history and besieged by the growing volume
: of imports from the Land of the Rising Sun.
:
: As it has been with other American utopias, the hippie communes of
: Mendocino County, California, in the 1960s, and Brook Farm and the
: Oneida Community in the 1840s, Saturn and Spring Hill found their own
: special spirit, flourished and died. Each perished for different
: reasons. Spring Hill's oncoming death is due to its proprietor's
: inattention, lack of follow-through, Wall Street and the managerial
: dunderheadism afflicting the American automobile industry in general.
:
: People bought Saturns not only because they liked the car but also
: because they liked the one-price, no-haggle,
: shoot-straight-with-the-customer policy and the attempt at a new
: relationship between labor and management. The Saturn was a hit, but
: GM, whipped by a mindless stock market and a desire to make more money
: faster in the short run, began to starve the fledgling company of
: capital and new models before Spring Hill had been open five years.
:
: Although the automobile was invented by a European gentleman named
: Gottlieb Daimler (1834-1900), nothing is so American as the motor car
: and nothing would be such an affront to our national self-esteem as
: seeing the end of the last two American-owned auto companies. Loss of
: self-esteem is nothing compared to the impact on more than 13 million
: workers directly and indirectly dependent on the industry. Obviously,
: even in the event that the worst were to happen, as is freely being
: discussed on the business pages, the many non-union workers in
: foreign-owned auto assembly plants would carry on.
:
: "We're not looking for a bailout," cried William Ford, the CEO whose
: company bears his great grandfather's name, but, as reported in the
: Washington Post, he and his company, as well as General Motors, are
: looking for a package of bailouts from Washington. At least one, a
: request that the Japanese revalue their currency to make their products
: more expensive, is silly. "We can compete with Toyota, but we can't
: compete with Japan," quoth Ford, who can't even compete in the National
: Football League, where his hapless Detroit Lions are giving new meaning
: to the term managerial dysfunction.
:
: America's domestic auto industry, or what's left of it, is also asking
: for help in dealing with its pension obligations and healthcare costs
: for its workers and retirees. There is a certain irony in these calls
: for assistance from the business world, which for years fought against
: "socialized medicine." If they had supported it then, many companies
: would not be in the fix they are in now.
:
: Auto manufacturers are calling for government help in hydrogen and fuel
: cell research, which the Energy Department is already involved in at
: least up to its hubcaps. Perhaps more money ought to be tossed its way,
: but it does not follow that lower costs in this area of power supply
: would help Ford and GM, who want to put hybrid technology in SUVs,
: although it was the American industry's fixation on SUVs and pickup
: trucks to the detriment of long-range planning and other product
: development that contributed to their present woes. "If we don't adapt
: to changing markets and shifts in consumer demand, [then] like any
: business, we deserve to suffer the consequences," declares Ford, whose
: company has shown scant talent at adaptation recently and is suffering
: the consequences.
:
: If the immediate past is a guide, Ford and GM will follow up the latest
: announcements of plant closings and layoffs with new announcements of
: plant closings and layoffs. Even Wall Street, which usually jumps for
: joy at the news of wholesale layoffs, has been unimpressed by the most
: recent ones. It is possible that the two corporations will continue to
: divest themselves of people and plant until there is no one left but
: Ford and Rick Wagoner, his counterpart at General Motors. They won't be
: making any cars or making any money, but they won't be losing the
: billions they are now. How much of a consolation that will be to their
: thousands of former workers remains to be seen.
:
Check out this article:
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005...2105181504.txt
The area is one of the the single most desirable places in middle Tennessee
to live for those 'yuppie types'. There are the best shops, best restaraunts
and it's a lovely, well maintained community. I wish I lived closer to it!
They may feel the layoffs to some degree but I seriously doubt that the
community would die. Property values are good and continue to increase at a
somewhat faster rate there than the rest of the state as far as I know.
On another note, there is another auto manufacturer moving to that area. I
forget who, I really didn't care. It was someone like Nissan I think...
nothing that interested me so I didn't wast any storage space on it..
KJK
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1134012334.987470.40560@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
: Or will they keep Jeep Jeep (hopefully, with a real-engine optionn
: from VM or MBZ...)
:
:
: Spring Hill: Another Utopia Bites the Dust
:
: Nicholas von Hoffman
:
: General Motors is on its way to closing what was once its industrial
: utopia at Spring Hill, Tennessee. It was there in a free-market Eden
: that the Saturn automobile was manufactured fifteen years ago in a
: plant run with workers and managers sharing decision-making and
: cooperating as equals.
:
: Saturn was to be the different automobile, differently made and
: differently sold, almost a company apart from the rest of GM, which was
: laden with a long and grimy history and besieged by the growing volume
: of imports from the Land of the Rising Sun.
:
: As it has been with other American utopias, the hippie communes of
: Mendocino County, California, in the 1960s, and Brook Farm and the
: Oneida Community in the 1840s, Saturn and Spring Hill found their own
: special spirit, flourished and died. Each perished for different
: reasons. Spring Hill's oncoming death is due to its proprietor's
: inattention, lack of follow-through, Wall Street and the managerial
: dunderheadism afflicting the American automobile industry in general.
:
: People bought Saturns not only because they liked the car but also
: because they liked the one-price, no-haggle,
: shoot-straight-with-the-customer policy and the attempt at a new
: relationship between labor and management. The Saturn was a hit, but
: GM, whipped by a mindless stock market and a desire to make more money
: faster in the short run, began to starve the fledgling company of
: capital and new models before Spring Hill had been open five years.
:
: Although the automobile was invented by a European gentleman named
: Gottlieb Daimler (1834-1900), nothing is so American as the motor car
: and nothing would be such an affront to our national self-esteem as
: seeing the end of the last two American-owned auto companies. Loss of
: self-esteem is nothing compared to the impact on more than 13 million
: workers directly and indirectly dependent on the industry. Obviously,
: even in the event that the worst were to happen, as is freely being
: discussed on the business pages, the many non-union workers in
: foreign-owned auto assembly plants would carry on.
:
: "We're not looking for a bailout," cried William Ford, the CEO whose
: company bears his great grandfather's name, but, as reported in the
: Washington Post, he and his company, as well as General Motors, are
: looking for a package of bailouts from Washington. At least one, a
: request that the Japanese revalue their currency to make their products
: more expensive, is silly. "We can compete with Toyota, but we can't
: compete with Japan," quoth Ford, who can't even compete in the National
: Football League, where his hapless Detroit Lions are giving new meaning
: to the term managerial dysfunction.
:
: America's domestic auto industry, or what's left of it, is also asking
: for help in dealing with its pension obligations and healthcare costs
: for its workers and retirees. There is a certain irony in these calls
: for assistance from the business world, which for years fought against
: "socialized medicine." If they had supported it then, many companies
: would not be in the fix they are in now.
:
: Auto manufacturers are calling for government help in hydrogen and fuel
: cell research, which the Energy Department is already involved in at
: least up to its hubcaps. Perhaps more money ought to be tossed its way,
: but it does not follow that lower costs in this area of power supply
: would help Ford and GM, who want to put hybrid technology in SUVs,
: although it was the American industry's fixation on SUVs and pickup
: trucks to the detriment of long-range planning and other product
: development that contributed to their present woes. "If we don't adapt
: to changing markets and shifts in consumer demand, [then] like any
: business, we deserve to suffer the consequences," declares Ford, whose
: company has shown scant talent at adaptation recently and is suffering
: the consequences.
:
: If the immediate past is a guide, Ford and GM will follow up the latest
: announcements of plant closings and layoffs with new announcements of
: plant closings and layoffs. Even Wall Street, which usually jumps for
: joy at the news of wholesale layoffs, has been unimpressed by the most
: recent ones. It is possible that the two corporations will continue to
: divest themselves of people and plant until there is no one left but
: Ford and Rick Wagoner, his counterpart at General Motors. They won't be
: making any cars or making any money, but they won't be losing the
: billions they are now. How much of a consolation that will be to their
: thousands of former workers remains to be seen.
:
12-08-2005, 11:46 AM
#3
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Will DCX do this to Jeep?
Hey Bret,
Check out this article:
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005...2105181504.txt
The area is one of the the single most desirable places in middle Tennessee
to live for those 'yuppie types'. There are the best shops, best restaraunts
and it's a lovely, well maintained community. I wish I lived closer to it!
They may feel the layoffs to some degree but I seriously doubt that the
community would die. Property values are good and continue to increase at a
somewhat faster rate there than the rest of the state as far as I know.
On another note, there is another auto manufacturer moving to that area. I
forget who, I really didn't care. It was someone like Nissan I think...
nothing that interested me so I didn't wast any storage space on it..
KJK
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1134012334.987470.40560@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
: Or will they keep Jeep Jeep (hopefully, with a real-engine optionn
: from VM or MBZ...)
:
:
: Spring Hill: Another Utopia Bites the Dust
:
: Nicholas von Hoffman
:
: General Motors is on its way to closing what was once its industrial
: utopia at Spring Hill, Tennessee. It was there in a free-market Eden
: that the Saturn automobile was manufactured fifteen years ago in a
: plant run with workers and managers sharing decision-making and
: cooperating as equals.
:
: Saturn was to be the different automobile, differently made and
: differently sold, almost a company apart from the rest of GM, which was
: laden with a long and grimy history and besieged by the growing volume
: of imports from the Land of the Rising Sun.
:
: As it has been with other American utopias, the hippie communes of
: Mendocino County, California, in the 1960s, and Brook Farm and the
: Oneida Community in the 1840s, Saturn and Spring Hill found their own
: special spirit, flourished and died. Each perished for different
: reasons. Spring Hill's oncoming death is due to its proprietor's
: inattention, lack of follow-through, Wall Street and the managerial
: dunderheadism afflicting the American automobile industry in general.
:
: People bought Saturns not only because they liked the car but also
: because they liked the one-price, no-haggle,
: shoot-straight-with-the-customer policy and the attempt at a new
: relationship between labor and management. The Saturn was a hit, but
: GM, whipped by a mindless stock market and a desire to make more money
: faster in the short run, began to starve the fledgling company of
: capital and new models before Spring Hill had been open five years.
:
: Although the automobile was invented by a European gentleman named
: Gottlieb Daimler (1834-1900), nothing is so American as the motor car
: and nothing would be such an affront to our national self-esteem as
: seeing the end of the last two American-owned auto companies. Loss of
: self-esteem is nothing compared to the impact on more than 13 million
: workers directly and indirectly dependent on the industry. Obviously,
: even in the event that the worst were to happen, as is freely being
: discussed on the business pages, the many non-union workers in
: foreign-owned auto assembly plants would carry on.
:
: "We're not looking for a bailout," cried William Ford, the CEO whose
: company bears his great grandfather's name, but, as reported in the
: Washington Post, he and his company, as well as General Motors, are
: looking for a package of bailouts from Washington. At least one, a
: request that the Japanese revalue their currency to make their products
: more expensive, is silly. "We can compete with Toyota, but we can't
: compete with Japan," quoth Ford, who can't even compete in the National
: Football League, where his hapless Detroit Lions are giving new meaning
: to the term managerial dysfunction.
:
: America's domestic auto industry, or what's left of it, is also asking
: for help in dealing with its pension obligations and healthcare costs
: for its workers and retirees. There is a certain irony in these calls
: for assistance from the business world, which for years fought against
: "socialized medicine." If they had supported it then, many companies
: would not be in the fix they are in now.
:
: Auto manufacturers are calling for government help in hydrogen and fuel
: cell research, which the Energy Department is already involved in at
: least up to its hubcaps. Perhaps more money ought to be tossed its way,
: but it does not follow that lower costs in this area of power supply
: would help Ford and GM, who want to put hybrid technology in SUVs,
: although it was the American industry's fixation on SUVs and pickup
: trucks to the detriment of long-range planning and other product
: development that contributed to their present woes. "If we don't adapt
: to changing markets and shifts in consumer demand, [then] like any
: business, we deserve to suffer the consequences," declares Ford, whose
: company has shown scant talent at adaptation recently and is suffering
: the consequences.
:
: If the immediate past is a guide, Ford and GM will follow up the latest
: announcements of plant closings and layoffs with new announcements of
: plant closings and layoffs. Even Wall Street, which usually jumps for
: joy at the news of wholesale layoffs, has been unimpressed by the most
: recent ones. It is possible that the two corporations will continue to
: divest themselves of people and plant until there is no one left but
: Ford and Rick Wagoner, his counterpart at General Motors. They won't be
: making any cars or making any money, but they won't be losing the
: billions they are now. How much of a consolation that will be to their
: thousands of former workers remains to be seen.
:
Check out this article:
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005...2105181504.txt
The area is one of the the single most desirable places in middle Tennessee
to live for those 'yuppie types'. There are the best shops, best restaraunts
and it's a lovely, well maintained community. I wish I lived closer to it!
They may feel the layoffs to some degree but I seriously doubt that the
community would die. Property values are good and continue to increase at a
somewhat faster rate there than the rest of the state as far as I know.
On another note, there is another auto manufacturer moving to that area. I
forget who, I really didn't care. It was someone like Nissan I think...
nothing that interested me so I didn't wast any storage space on it..
KJK
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1134012334.987470.40560@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
: Or will they keep Jeep Jeep (hopefully, with a real-engine optionn
: from VM or MBZ...)
:
:
: Spring Hill: Another Utopia Bites the Dust
:
: Nicholas von Hoffman
:
: General Motors is on its way to closing what was once its industrial
: utopia at Spring Hill, Tennessee. It was there in a free-market Eden
: that the Saturn automobile was manufactured fifteen years ago in a
: plant run with workers and managers sharing decision-making and
: cooperating as equals.
:
: Saturn was to be the different automobile, differently made and
: differently sold, almost a company apart from the rest of GM, which was
: laden with a long and grimy history and besieged by the growing volume
: of imports from the Land of the Rising Sun.
:
: As it has been with other American utopias, the hippie communes of
: Mendocino County, California, in the 1960s, and Brook Farm and the
: Oneida Community in the 1840s, Saturn and Spring Hill found their own
: special spirit, flourished and died. Each perished for different
: reasons. Spring Hill's oncoming death is due to its proprietor's
: inattention, lack of follow-through, Wall Street and the managerial
: dunderheadism afflicting the American automobile industry in general.
:
: People bought Saturns not only because they liked the car but also
: because they liked the one-price, no-haggle,
: shoot-straight-with-the-customer policy and the attempt at a new
: relationship between labor and management. The Saturn was a hit, but
: GM, whipped by a mindless stock market and a desire to make more money
: faster in the short run, began to starve the fledgling company of
: capital and new models before Spring Hill had been open five years.
:
: Although the automobile was invented by a European gentleman named
: Gottlieb Daimler (1834-1900), nothing is so American as the motor car
: and nothing would be such an affront to our national self-esteem as
: seeing the end of the last two American-owned auto companies. Loss of
: self-esteem is nothing compared to the impact on more than 13 million
: workers directly and indirectly dependent on the industry. Obviously,
: even in the event that the worst were to happen, as is freely being
: discussed on the business pages, the many non-union workers in
: foreign-owned auto assembly plants would carry on.
:
: "We're not looking for a bailout," cried William Ford, the CEO whose
: company bears his great grandfather's name, but, as reported in the
: Washington Post, he and his company, as well as General Motors, are
: looking for a package of bailouts from Washington. At least one, a
: request that the Japanese revalue their currency to make their products
: more expensive, is silly. "We can compete with Toyota, but we can't
: compete with Japan," quoth Ford, who can't even compete in the National
: Football League, where his hapless Detroit Lions are giving new meaning
: to the term managerial dysfunction.
:
: America's domestic auto industry, or what's left of it, is also asking
: for help in dealing with its pension obligations and healthcare costs
: for its workers and retirees. There is a certain irony in these calls
: for assistance from the business world, which for years fought against
: "socialized medicine." If they had supported it then, many companies
: would not be in the fix they are in now.
:
: Auto manufacturers are calling for government help in hydrogen and fuel
: cell research, which the Energy Department is already involved in at
: least up to its hubcaps. Perhaps more money ought to be tossed its way,
: but it does not follow that lower costs in this area of power supply
: would help Ford and GM, who want to put hybrid technology in SUVs,
: although it was the American industry's fixation on SUVs and pickup
: trucks to the detriment of long-range planning and other product
: development that contributed to their present woes. "If we don't adapt
: to changing markets and shifts in consumer demand, [then] like any
: business, we deserve to suffer the consequences," declares Ford, whose
: company has shown scant talent at adaptation recently and is suffering
: the consequences.
:
: If the immediate past is a guide, Ford and GM will follow up the latest
: announcements of plant closings and layoffs with new announcements of
: plant closings and layoffs. Even Wall Street, which usually jumps for
: joy at the news of wholesale layoffs, has been unimpressed by the most
: recent ones. It is possible that the two corporations will continue to
: divest themselves of people and plant until there is no one left but
: Ford and Rick Wagoner, his counterpart at General Motors. They won't be
: making any cars or making any money, but they won't be losing the
: billions they are now. How much of a consolation that will be to their
: thousands of former workers remains to be seen.
:
12-08-2005, 11:46 AM
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Re: Will DCX do this to Jeep?
Hey Bret,
Check out this article:
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005...2105181504.txt
The area is one of the the single most desirable places in middle Tennessee
to live for those 'yuppie types'. There are the best shops, best restaraunts
and it's a lovely, well maintained community. I wish I lived closer to it!
They may feel the layoffs to some degree but I seriously doubt that the
community would die. Property values are good and continue to increase at a
somewhat faster rate there than the rest of the state as far as I know.
On another note, there is another auto manufacturer moving to that area. I
forget who, I really didn't care. It was someone like Nissan I think...
nothing that interested me so I didn't wast any storage space on it..
KJK
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1134012334.987470.40560@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
: Or will they keep Jeep Jeep (hopefully, with a real-engine optionn
: from VM or MBZ...)
:
:
: Spring Hill: Another Utopia Bites the Dust
:
: Nicholas von Hoffman
:
: General Motors is on its way to closing what was once its industrial
: utopia at Spring Hill, Tennessee. It was there in a free-market Eden
: that the Saturn automobile was manufactured fifteen years ago in a
: plant run with workers and managers sharing decision-making and
: cooperating as equals.
:
: Saturn was to be the different automobile, differently made and
: differently sold, almost a company apart from the rest of GM, which was
: laden with a long and grimy history and besieged by the growing volume
: of imports from the Land of the Rising Sun.
:
: As it has been with other American utopias, the hippie communes of
: Mendocino County, California, in the 1960s, and Brook Farm and the
: Oneida Community in the 1840s, Saturn and Spring Hill found their own
: special spirit, flourished and died. Each perished for different
: reasons. Spring Hill's oncoming death is due to its proprietor's
: inattention, lack of follow-through, Wall Street and the managerial
: dunderheadism afflicting the American automobile industry in general.
:
: People bought Saturns not only because they liked the car but also
: because they liked the one-price, no-haggle,
: shoot-straight-with-the-customer policy and the attempt at a new
: relationship between labor and management. The Saturn was a hit, but
: GM, whipped by a mindless stock market and a desire to make more money
: faster in the short run, began to starve the fledgling company of
: capital and new models before Spring Hill had been open five years.
:
: Although the automobile was invented by a European gentleman named
: Gottlieb Daimler (1834-1900), nothing is so American as the motor car
: and nothing would be such an affront to our national self-esteem as
: seeing the end of the last two American-owned auto companies. Loss of
: self-esteem is nothing compared to the impact on more than 13 million
: workers directly and indirectly dependent on the industry. Obviously,
: even in the event that the worst were to happen, as is freely being
: discussed on the business pages, the many non-union workers in
: foreign-owned auto assembly plants would carry on.
:
: "We're not looking for a bailout," cried William Ford, the CEO whose
: company bears his great grandfather's name, but, as reported in the
: Washington Post, he and his company, as well as General Motors, are
: looking for a package of bailouts from Washington. At least one, a
: request that the Japanese revalue their currency to make their products
: more expensive, is silly. "We can compete with Toyota, but we can't
: compete with Japan," quoth Ford, who can't even compete in the National
: Football League, where his hapless Detroit Lions are giving new meaning
: to the term managerial dysfunction.
:
: America's domestic auto industry, or what's left of it, is also asking
: for help in dealing with its pension obligations and healthcare costs
: for its workers and retirees. There is a certain irony in these calls
: for assistance from the business world, which for years fought against
: "socialized medicine." If they had supported it then, many companies
: would not be in the fix they are in now.
:
: Auto manufacturers are calling for government help in hydrogen and fuel
: cell research, which the Energy Department is already involved in at
: least up to its hubcaps. Perhaps more money ought to be tossed its way,
: but it does not follow that lower costs in this area of power supply
: would help Ford and GM, who want to put hybrid technology in SUVs,
: although it was the American industry's fixation on SUVs and pickup
: trucks to the detriment of long-range planning and other product
: development that contributed to their present woes. "If we don't adapt
: to changing markets and shifts in consumer demand, [then] like any
: business, we deserve to suffer the consequences," declares Ford, whose
: company has shown scant talent at adaptation recently and is suffering
: the consequences.
:
: If the immediate past is a guide, Ford and GM will follow up the latest
: announcements of plant closings and layoffs with new announcements of
: plant closings and layoffs. Even Wall Street, which usually jumps for
: joy at the news of wholesale layoffs, has been unimpressed by the most
: recent ones. It is possible that the two corporations will continue to
: divest themselves of people and plant until there is no one left but
: Ford and Rick Wagoner, his counterpart at General Motors. They won't be
: making any cars or making any money, but they won't be losing the
: billions they are now. How much of a consolation that will be to their
: thousands of former workers remains to be seen.
:
Check out this article:
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005...2105181504.txt
The area is one of the the single most desirable places in middle Tennessee
to live for those 'yuppie types'. There are the best shops, best restaraunts
and it's a lovely, well maintained community. I wish I lived closer to it!
They may feel the layoffs to some degree but I seriously doubt that the
community would die. Property values are good and continue to increase at a
somewhat faster rate there than the rest of the state as far as I know.
On another note, there is another auto manufacturer moving to that area. I
forget who, I really didn't care. It was someone like Nissan I think...
nothing that interested me so I didn't wast any storage space on it..
KJK
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1134012334.987470.40560@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
: Or will they keep Jeep Jeep (hopefully, with a real-engine optionn
: from VM or MBZ...)
:
:
: Spring Hill: Another Utopia Bites the Dust
:
: Nicholas von Hoffman
:
: General Motors is on its way to closing what was once its industrial
: utopia at Spring Hill, Tennessee. It was there in a free-market Eden
: that the Saturn automobile was manufactured fifteen years ago in a
: plant run with workers and managers sharing decision-making and
: cooperating as equals.
:
: Saturn was to be the different automobile, differently made and
: differently sold, almost a company apart from the rest of GM, which was
: laden with a long and grimy history and besieged by the growing volume
: of imports from the Land of the Rising Sun.
:
: As it has been with other American utopias, the hippie communes of
: Mendocino County, California, in the 1960s, and Brook Farm and the
: Oneida Community in the 1840s, Saturn and Spring Hill found their own
: special spirit, flourished and died. Each perished for different
: reasons. Spring Hill's oncoming death is due to its proprietor's
: inattention, lack of follow-through, Wall Street and the managerial
: dunderheadism afflicting the American automobile industry in general.
:
: People bought Saturns not only because they liked the car but also
: because they liked the one-price, no-haggle,
: shoot-straight-with-the-customer policy and the attempt at a new
: relationship between labor and management. The Saturn was a hit, but
: GM, whipped by a mindless stock market and a desire to make more money
: faster in the short run, began to starve the fledgling company of
: capital and new models before Spring Hill had been open five years.
:
: Although the automobile was invented by a European gentleman named
: Gottlieb Daimler (1834-1900), nothing is so American as the motor car
: and nothing would be such an affront to our national self-esteem as
: seeing the end of the last two American-owned auto companies. Loss of
: self-esteem is nothing compared to the impact on more than 13 million
: workers directly and indirectly dependent on the industry. Obviously,
: even in the event that the worst were to happen, as is freely being
: discussed on the business pages, the many non-union workers in
: foreign-owned auto assembly plants would carry on.
:
: "We're not looking for a bailout," cried William Ford, the CEO whose
: company bears his great grandfather's name, but, as reported in the
: Washington Post, he and his company, as well as General Motors, are
: looking for a package of bailouts from Washington. At least one, a
: request that the Japanese revalue their currency to make their products
: more expensive, is silly. "We can compete with Toyota, but we can't
: compete with Japan," quoth Ford, who can't even compete in the National
: Football League, where his hapless Detroit Lions are giving new meaning
: to the term managerial dysfunction.
:
: America's domestic auto industry, or what's left of it, is also asking
: for help in dealing with its pension obligations and healthcare costs
: for its workers and retirees. There is a certain irony in these calls
: for assistance from the business world, which for years fought against
: "socialized medicine." If they had supported it then, many companies
: would not be in the fix they are in now.
:
: Auto manufacturers are calling for government help in hydrogen and fuel
: cell research, which the Energy Department is already involved in at
: least up to its hubcaps. Perhaps more money ought to be tossed its way,
: but it does not follow that lower costs in this area of power supply
: would help Ford and GM, who want to put hybrid technology in SUVs,
: although it was the American industry's fixation on SUVs and pickup
: trucks to the detriment of long-range planning and other product
: development that contributed to their present woes. "If we don't adapt
: to changing markets and shifts in consumer demand, [then] like any
: business, we deserve to suffer the consequences," declares Ford, whose
: company has shown scant talent at adaptation recently and is suffering
: the consequences.
:
: If the immediate past is a guide, Ford and GM will follow up the latest
: announcements of plant closings and layoffs with new announcements of
: plant closings and layoffs. Even Wall Street, which usually jumps for
: joy at the news of wholesale layoffs, has been unimpressed by the most
: recent ones. It is possible that the two corporations will continue to
: divest themselves of people and plant until there is no one left but
: Ford and Rick Wagoner, his counterpart at General Motors. They won't be
: making any cars or making any money, but they won't be losing the
: billions they are now. How much of a consolation that will be to their
: thousands of former workers remains to be seen.
:
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