Why are Liberty's so expensive compared to Wranlers...
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The original Liberty's were almost perfect for the niche market at which
they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a very
different niche.
Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
If you want a 4 door Wrangler, buy one. You will find them longer, wider,
taller, and heavier than the WJ and have a smaller engine.
On a positive note they do offer an extra 1/5 inch ground clearance.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:EPIAh.273864$QY6.167640@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
> people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who
> have
> 4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high
> up
> driving position
> or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
> going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
> make a vehicle that I want to drive.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
>
>> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>>
> > Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
>
>
they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a very
different niche.
Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
If you want a 4 door Wrangler, buy one. You will find them longer, wider,
taller, and heavier than the WJ and have a smaller engine.
On a positive note they do offer an extra 1/5 inch ground clearance.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:EPIAh.273864$QY6.167640@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
> people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who
> have
> 4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high
> up
> driving position
> or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
> going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
> make a vehicle that I want to drive.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
>
>> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>>
> > Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
>
>
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The original Liberty's were almost perfect for the niche market at which
they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a very
different niche.
Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
If you want a 4 door Wrangler, buy one. You will find them longer, wider,
taller, and heavier than the WJ and have a smaller engine.
On a positive note they do offer an extra 1/5 inch ground clearance.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:EPIAh.273864$QY6.167640@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
> people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who
> have
> 4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high
> up
> driving position
> or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
> going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
> make a vehicle that I want to drive.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
>
>> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>>
> > Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
>
>
they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a very
different niche.
Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
If you want a 4 door Wrangler, buy one. You will find them longer, wider,
taller, and heavier than the WJ and have a smaller engine.
On a positive note they do offer an extra 1/5 inch ground clearance.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:EPIAh.273864$QY6.167640@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
> people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who
> have
> 4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high
> up
> driving position
> or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
> going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
> make a vehicle that I want to drive.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
>
>> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>>
> > Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
>
>
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The original Liberty's were almost perfect for the niche market at which
they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a very
different niche.
Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
If you want a 4 door Wrangler, buy one. You will find them longer, wider,
taller, and heavier than the WJ and have a smaller engine.
On a positive note they do offer an extra 1/5 inch ground clearance.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:EPIAh.273864$QY6.167640@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
> people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who
> have
> 4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high
> up
> driving position
> or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
> going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
> make a vehicle that I want to drive.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
>
>> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>>
> > Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
>
>
they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a very
different niche.
Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
If you want a 4 door Wrangler, buy one. You will find them longer, wider,
taller, and heavier than the WJ and have a smaller engine.
On a positive note they do offer an extra 1/5 inch ground clearance.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:EPIAh.273864$QY6.167640@fe1.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> Perhaps they were accomplishing the same thing as the Grand Cherokee to
> people who couldn't/wouldn't afford a Grand Cherokee ? Most people who
> have
> 4x4s use them to either haul trailers or just because they like the high
> up
> driving position
> or because 2 weeks in a year they just might get stuck in snow. I'm not
> going to knock DC for servicing that market, as long as they continue to
> make a vehicle that I want to drive.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ, Land Rover Discovery 2 v8 ES
>
>> "Highcountry" <highcountry2000@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1171028067.949470.319070@q2g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:
>>
> > Nobody but DC knows what they were trying to accomplise with the Lib,
>
>
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billy ray wrote:
> The original Liberty's were almost perfect for the niche market at
> which they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a
> very different niche.
>
> Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
I actually like the Libby. Had several as rental cars
and they worked well for four people and baggage. And I
could see using one on some of the real tight trails where
turning the ZJ is a skeery experience.
To each their own.
--
DougW
> The original Liberty's were almost perfect for the niche market at
> which they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a
> very different niche.
>
> Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
I actually like the Libby. Had several as rental cars
and they worked well for four people and baggage. And I
could see using one on some of the real tight trails where
turning the ZJ is a skeery experience.
To each their own.
--
DougW
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billy ray wrote:
> The original Liberty's were almost perfect for the niche market at
> which they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a
> very different niche.
>
> Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
I actually like the Libby. Had several as rental cars
and they worked well for four people and baggage. And I
could see using one on some of the real tight trails where
turning the ZJ is a skeery experience.
To each their own.
--
DougW
> The original Liberty's were almost perfect for the niche market at
> which they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a
> very different niche.
>
> Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
I actually like the Libby. Had several as rental cars
and they worked well for four people and baggage. And I
could see using one on some of the real tight trails where
turning the ZJ is a skeery experience.
To each their own.
--
DougW
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billy ray wrote:
> The original Liberty's were almost perfect for the niche market at
> which they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a
> very different niche.
>
> Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
I actually like the Libby. Had several as rental cars
and they worked well for four people and baggage. And I
could see using one on some of the real tight trails where
turning the ZJ is a skeery experience.
To each their own.
--
DougW
> The original Liberty's were almost perfect for the niche market at
> which they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a
> very different niche.
>
> Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
I actually like the Libby. Had several as rental cars
and they worked well for four people and baggage. And I
could see using one on some of the real tight trails where
turning the ZJ is a skeery experience.
To each their own.
--
DougW
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billy ray wrote:
> The original Liberty's were almost perfect for the niche market at
> which they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a
> very different niche.
>
> Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
I actually like the Libby. Had several as rental cars
and they worked well for four people and baggage. And I
could see using one on some of the real tight trails where
turning the ZJ is a skeery experience.
To each their own.
--
DougW
> The original Liberty's were almost perfect for the niche market at
> which they were aimed. The problem is that the XJ was designed for a
> very different niche.
>
> Don't like the Liberty? Then don't buy one.
I actually like the Libby. Had several as rental cars
and they worked well for four people and baggage. And I
could see using one on some of the real tight trails where
turning the ZJ is a skeery experience.
To each their own.
--
DougW
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